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1:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly dots in answer: Закон/алгоритм Мура (Moore's Algorithm) 1968 - python by Pato92 on ru.stackoverflow.com

user315433

1:59 AM

!!/report superuser.com/a/1209199

!!/alive

@JamesENL Of course

sd gone

user202362

2:52 AM

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user202362

don't worry, shoebill didn't eat the duck

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Create a disease that can easily be cured by adopting a custom from another culture by dona robert on worldbuilding.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: I can tell you what are the classifications for audio amplifiers by maryzhu on electronics.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Korean character in title: 부산오피 전주오피 밤전 울산오피 by Helmeth Cecilia on spanish.SE

3:27 AM

@SmokeDetector f

@SmokeDetector closed as dupe, still need spam flag

4:14 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, +3 more: newmusclesupplements.com/endurance-test-x/ by alishavenezia on drupal.SE

5:09 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching title, bad keyword in body: what is this Lashrejuv 1 by SousaGuilh on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body: Confused in the career option by Varsha Sharma on meta.SE

5:44 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: 日本一の星空にも選ばれた長野県阿智村で by laseronsale on ja.stackoverflow.com

5:58 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Do Muscle Building Supplements Provide You Faster Results by Fredtanley on graphicdesign.SE

6:09 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: ONE PIECE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES by Sang Huynh on anime.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: ONE PIECE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES by Sang Huynh on anime.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Is the GST credit any higher than usual starting July 2010? by user56578 on money.SE

6:30 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +3 more: healthflyup.com/bio-rocket-blast/ by atiyasunbultannous on apple.SE

6:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How can I enable the finger print scanner on an HP 4540 in Windows 8? by manish singh on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: ONE PIECE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES by Sang Huynh on anime.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Why do most anime have field trips to Kyoto? by Sang Huynh on anime.SE

7:12 AM

Technically, both cars are haunted, but the murder ghosts can't stand listening to the broken GPS for more than a few minutes.

user202362

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user202362

I like this photo ... for multiple reasons

So, @rene is the new Tim Stone?

@Telkitty bird smiling... what else?

@JamesENL and you? ;)

user202362

that's the evil look from the shoebill ... and the startled duck ...

@StevenVascellaro add a note to the project "I was helping someone on WebApps SE site", you'll surely be excused and even get a bonus raise. ;-)

@Telkitty not evil, only if you choose to interpret it this way.... ;)

Animals can't be evil.... except maybe cats.... :D

Final close vote and delete votes needed here @rene @Bart

user202362

7:33 AM

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8:21 AM

@ShadowWizard gone

@Bart thanks!

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Messaging number in answer: Connect a POE VoIP phone to a non-POE Switch by scoffield chen on networkengineering.SE

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: A new statement about $\\pi$ by General on mathoverflow.net

8:43 AM

@SmokeDetector question is not spam, only a comment on it

9:03 AM

hi all

Who are you?

:D

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How to label clothes? by Marynemp on lifehacks.SE

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android ffmpeg c# python sparql wikidata wikidata-api

is this vulgar profile

> Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them.

Yes very vulgar ^

> can bann ?

9:13 AM

How dare they keep an air of mystery about them?!

lol

@maňish guess that as a community manager @JonEricson would be more indicated for a reply

@Derpy you still alive pony do you remember me.

> lover from last birth

@Derpy Jon hasn't been around for a while, he didn't even reply to a ping in his Office room. (and in few days he won't be pingable there at all...)

9:31 AM

@ShadowWizard StackExchange moderation strange is, my young padwan.

Journeyman Geek

10:01 AM

@ShadowWizard that seems slightly ominous.

@Derpy reply to me :/

@JourneymanGeek now we just have to find which SE employee is wearing Jon shoes....

in Shadow's Den, Feb 27 '15 at 12:01, by SPArchaeologist

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> (for the ones wondering, Discworld reference above)

> In the old days wizards frequently killed each other to move up the career ladder (known in arcane circles as "Dead Man's Pointy Shoes")

Journeyman Geek

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10:13 AM

Actually, it plays a great part in the plot of the TV adaptation of the two books "The colour of Magic" and "The light fantastic"

One of the wizard was found deceased in a sealed from the outside room. All the opening had been closed, so... no air.

They deduce that the wizard must clearly have committed suicide.

@JourneymanGeek just slightly, yep

And your job? Less ominous? @Journeyman ;)

Journeyman Geek

10:37 AM

Hmm. More so

I just got told the full extent of how messed up things are.

And various office politics

And how my actual, on leave boss has a tendency of making people quit

@JourneymanGeek ouch. Sounds scary.... :(

Journeyman Geek

10:59 AM

Yup

Alas, I need this job sooooooo

Just... be careful. :)

11:38 AM

whoa... 17 seconds! Not bad, @Oded ;)

Surrounded by diamonds... and bot..... and one @Journeyman ....

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:D

Journeyman Geek

lol

@ShadowWizard by chattiness?

@JourneymanGeek last activity

Journeyman Geek

ah

yeah

They have tons of private rooms here

Journeyman Geek

lol

Yeah, so I hear

11:47 AM

This is like a big iceberg, the Tavern is only its tip

Journeyman Geek

and the tavern is relatively quiet for a 'main' room on a trilogy of 4 parts site.

(hm, TCR is, quieter I suppose but they moved elsewhere for most part)

Well, the Restaurant is pretty active

Maybe because it's new...

I can make this room active too. I think.

stealing @Bart's glasses

teasing @Elephant

...or not

As dead as a room can be. :D

smiting @ShadowWizard

huh!

Journeyman Geek

lol

SFF's rooms tend to be

11:56 AM

dancing victoriously, with an aching head

Journeyman Geek

its keeping the inmates from running the asylum that has traditionally been an issue

asylum?

@JourneymanGeek and yet a Rose by any other name....

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard place for people who are... differently realitied?

spam edit please reject

12:23 PM

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( original link )

Journeyman Geek

hm. naw, that's someone with altered senses of reality

is that?

or is it just a butterfly?

Journeyman Geek

dude, he is clearly on the good stuff

Oct 28 '16 at 13:30, by Derpy

> Once upon a time, I, Chuang Chou, dreamt I was a butterfly, fluttering hither and thither, to all intents and purposes a butterfly. I was conscious only of my happiness as a butterfly, unaware that I was Chou. Soon I awaked, and there I was, veritably myself again. Now I do not know whether I was then a man dreaming I was a butterfly, or whether I am now a butterfly, dreaming I am a man.

Journeyman Geek

goooood stuff

12:31 PM

> Like it or not, believe it or not as you will. Your perceptions will not change reality, but simply colour it. (Eternal Darkness, Sanity Requiem - GC)

Game of the day: see how far I can go using just obscure movie/games/books/etc quotes as answers

Journeyman Geek

ED's obscure?

12:53 PM

> When you measure your temperature, the coolness of the thermometer will change the temperature in your mouth while you measure it. This will change
the actual temperature of your mouth, and thus change the reality of the temperature in your mouth.
If measuring reality actually changes that reality, then there is no way to accurately measure reality.
Things exist only because they are observed.
Since you can observe me, I exist.
Since I have such a limited attention span... once I forget about you, you will no longer exist... see ya.

head spins

buying a spinner

1:11 PM

too big...

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Anyone remembers that meta post about a guy that created a new account to see how "newbies" are actually treated?

@JasonC so you don't like FHRC? Or screenshots? They usually help and make the problem more clear.

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Q: Experimented with an alternate account to see the new user experience through veteran habits, eyes

On November 2013 I created this "secret" persona in which I went all out: New email address New JSFiddle account New GitHub account Permission from the Stack Exchange team to run my experiment ... And so much more. Why did I do this? This was an experiment if people can treat a new user any...

discussion new-users user-accounts behavior

that?

sounds like that, yeah

1:26 PM

@Elephant Yep

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been a while I saw a page navigator that's not really convenient...

user315433

1:52 PM

Site milestone: Chess has been in public beta for 5 years, since 2012-05-15. The growth is very slow, and may even be flattening out. The most-viewed question: With only a king left, how many moves remaining until a draw?

Journeyman Geek

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user315433

I never heard about that rule until now.

@Gerry what rule?

Forced draw when only a king is left?

I think that when I used to play at school they told me it's 3, and had a special name.

user315433

I think 3 is the number of times a position is repeated.

2:07 PM

oh, might be

It's all blurred...

user315433

I wonder if it matters if two identical pieces (for example, two knights) trade places when the position is repeated. Hmm.

user315433

> Positions [...] are considered the same, if the same player has the move, pieces of the same kind and color occupy the same squares, and the possible moves of all the pieces of both players are the same.

user315433

Apparently, it does not matter.

user315433

Hm, that clause about possible moves... if it's the same position and the same player has the move, how could the possible moves be different? I think the only case is when a rook or the king moved and then returned to its place, and now you can't castle.

Journeyman Geek

2:48 PM

stalemate?\

boardflip?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Are there tips and tricks to overcome a fear of flying? by Marcos Lopez on travel.SE

@JourneymanGeek yes, that's the term!

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: hei natalie,can you help me? by prio galih on ebooks.SE

@Bart it's a shoe

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2:59 PM

:D

@SmokeDetector wut...

Journeyman Geek

3:25 PM

... zat iz ood

3:36 PM

@ShadowWizard Not sure. Got someone to look into it ;)

user315433

Oh snap! lmao @Prostak. I go to great lengths to distill my questions down to the bare minimum so that answerers/commenters don't get their panties in a bunch about things that have nothing to do with the actual question. — Chev Jan 30 '14 at 21:02

user315433

There are some actual technical comments under this meta-discussion, which are folded because meta-discussion is upvoted...

user315433

(If anyone feels like there should be a flag there, feel free to try.)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Email in answer: Is "is been" a valid construction? by sergio aragonez on english.SE

@ShadowWizard I don't like edits for bumps. Just start a bounty.

4:08 PM

How Stack Overflow Jobs Puts Developers First

Donna Choi on May 12, 2017

I’m Donna Choi, and I’m the Product Designer for the Stack Overflow Jobs team.

I’d like to revisit and share with you our standards for developing Jobs. These are living standards—we’re constantly rethinking our approach as we talk to users about what kind of product would help them most.

For a little more context: part of my job involves listening to people talk about their job search. Over the last 2 years, I’ve heard developers all over the world talk about why they leave a job, what makes them happy, what frustrates them, and what they hope to find. We just finished a big research project ab …

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Hello people of this room I have returned after 69 days.

iuqerfsodp9ifjaposdfjhgosurijfaewrwergwea.com

@HenryWHHackv2.0 is it 4:20 PM there?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Where?

@HenryWHHackv2.0 in your country's time (sorry for bad English)

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@Fawad No.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

4:27 PM

So am how is everyone today?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Не отправляет письмо в Wordpress? by Kalpesh Narwani on ru.stackoverflow.com

1 hour later…

5:54 PM

> they are operating the dbase engine in fingers-crossed mode.

Wonder how you enable that? ALTER DATABASE FINGERS=CRSOSSED;?

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What produces the sound of transportation? (Out-of-Universe) by party transporter on scifi.SE

I don't mean to be offensive but I seem to have missed a memo: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/296029/…

Is there something public on MSE that mods can see the down voter?

user315433

6:17 PM

Mods can see some summary stats regarding the votes received by a user. That may include the top voters by that measure.

@ShadowWizard @JNat That user wasn't a spammer. The main site profile was self-deleted back in September and apparently something fell over and the meta profile didn't get removed as it should've been. Not much point in trying to figure out what since that happened nearly 8 months ago. If there was a major bug, we'd hear about it by now in other cases. (I hope :))

@Gerry but that would mean every user has a top down-voter? In that case the statement: votes are anonymous is no longer true, no matter how much you try to hide behind stats

6:48 PM

If the username is anonymized, then I guess it's still anonymous.

Don't know about the detail, but I think I have read it somewhere that mods do have tool to analyze voting pattern

user315433

@rene The statement "votes are anonymous" was never true.

user315433

Or rather, it is an oversimplification of the state of things.

@Gerry for non-developers I assumed it to be true.

@Gerry Ok, maybe I hoped the world was simple.

@AdamLear self delete you mean with a button, or requested deletion and a CM actually deleted the account?

@Gerry It seems to have attracted SE staff attention and I now got three comments of them, all kind of supporting your POV. I stand corrected.

6:56 PM

@ShadowWizard most deletes are self-serve via "contact us"

@AdamLear but not automatic, right? This can be done only when there's no activity in the account.

Depends on how you define automatic.

There's no employee involvement unless the user is high rep or has a lot of voting activity.

@AdamLear click of a button, without any email or contact form (which requires employee to read it and act)

no, contact form doesn't require an employee for deletions :)

or merges, for that matter

when you request deletion, we send you an email with a confirmation link. you click it. that starts a 24-hour "scheduled deletion" timer during which you can still take it all back. after that, the profile is deleted.

@AdamLear oh, that's neat!

Was sure there's a human starting that 24 hours countdown process.

(on your end)

6:59 PM

only for high rep/lots of votes cases. those get some oversight.

the "delete profile" button on new profiles takes effect immediately, like it always has, though

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Hi again people. (Hi SE Dev)

Ola Henry

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Hi

I'm afraid to ask but.

@AdamLear Is Bioinformatics.SE Coming Today?

@HenryWHHackv2.0 tomorrow

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Ah

Yes!

7:05 PM

release tuesday

Unless I hear of any blockers in the weekly status call (which is literally happening right now). Should be all clear, though.

Who would have guessed that browser window unfolds means Bring the browser window to the foreground

@HenryWHHackv2.0 always on Tuesdays

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Ok

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Q: Why do beta sites typically launch on Tuesday?

In an answer on Area 51, Robert Cartaino mentions that beta sites usually launch on a Tuesday. A cursory review of beta site history seems to show that, somewhat surprisingly, this is actually true. I've, uh, gotta wonder why? I'm honestly just curious. It's probably some boring internal reason,...

discussion area51 private-beta

@rene me

7:14 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they package a new site as an MSI, send it to Microsoft and then have it deployed via Windows Update

hence the Tuesday

@ShadowWizard points for you, Sir.

@rene yay!

Sir Wizard... sounds good!

user315433

8:05 PM

What is the plural form of POTUS? I suppose it's not POTI...

user315433

8:16 PM

!!/report anime.stackexchange.com/a/40385/9535

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: What is Goku's red aura form in the new Dragon Ball Super opening? by mndm on anime.SE

user315433

8:42 PM

Re: Comment votes can be easily gamed by users with the association bonus... does casting a comment vote block one-click deletion of site profile?

user315433

8:52 PM

Network Engineering went into public beta 4 years ago today. Most viewed question: How do you calculate the prefix, network, subnet, and host numbers?. Math is hard, especially with logarithms.

user315433

If people learn logarithms before they are fully ready, they may be seduced by their dark side: the belief that multiplication and addition are interchangeable in any formula with "log" in it.

user315433

9:16 PM

Graphic Design is next to hold an election. The topic of spam might come up...

user315433

9:39 PM

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user315433

Wolfram Alpha is amazing. "I'd like to plot this curve" - "Hang on, computing some stuff you didn't ask for, with 15 digits of precision.... there you have it. Sorry, no time left to plot."

10:49 PM

anybody ever watched "from the new world"

cause i'm about 2/3 of the way through and i need to talk it out, cause it's pretty intense, lol

11:31 PM

I listened to it.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating words in answer: Which is used in mobile phones? A microprocessor or a microcontroller? by user149261 on electronics.SE

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