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Félix Gagnon-Grenier
Félix Gagnon-Grenier
1:54 AM
logs in, reads long, complete, detailed discussion about the if and hows of legal marijuana growing
and there I thought you guys were actually serious.
 
user315433
Time to take a bong.
 
Félix Gagnon-Grenier
Félix Gagnon-Grenier
that it is
 
Jason C
Jason C
2:18 AM
Is there a medical term for a skin irritation, from any cause, that causes bleeding? Like the kind of injury you would get from a brush burn, or a serious rash, or dry cracked skin, as opposed to, like, a cut or a burn.
Oh, lesion, maybe. It's pretty general though.
 
user315433
2:32 AM
I hear Health still exists, although the questions are horrible and answers non-existent.
 
Jason C
Jason C
Yeah, I thought about asking there, then I remembered that the questions are horrible and the answers non-existent.
It's hit the point of no return.
 
 
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qwer
qwer
5:13 AM
Oh, the emoji question is still on HNQ
 
qwer
qwer
5:49 AM
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
6:23 AM
@JasonC it's still better than the Health section of Yahoo Answers. (99% of the questions there are the same and getting same answers every time.)
@qwer bug, according to this, the site exists for four years and five months.
@qwer yeah, I'm sure @gnat is thrilled by this... ;)
(but must admit, that one is just funny...)
 
 
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rene
rene
8:00 AM
spammy morning
Need coffee
 
Bart
Bart
8:20 AM
Coffee sounds good
 
rene
rene
@Bart I'm in for another round ...
 
 
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Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
10:29 AM
@rene spam with coffee? ☕
 
rene
rene
meh, need waffles
 
rene
rene
11:19 AM
It is a kind of funny that when I stumble on a > 5 comments thread it is for OP's that I recognize because they have done so before. Not that their answers seem low quality. They seem unlucky in picking an help vampire more often...
Or maybe I see a pattern that is not there
 
Bart
Bart
12:12 PM
If you start seeing patterns that aren't there, stop drinking.
 
rene
rene
Hmm, do I really need to consider that?
 
Bart
Bart
12:37 PM
If they are nice patterns ... nah
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart I see patterns in waffles. /cc @rene
whoa, @Oded just ninja-nuked off topic stuff on MSE :D
 
 
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1:49 PM
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Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
2:01 PM
@SmokeDetector thanks, my 121-st account just created
 
 
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hichris123
hichris123
4:46 PM
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
5:06 PM
Guyses, what are some sites with a good tag system?
I want to analyze stuff.
I'm looking for sites that have kept a clean tagging system. Without meta tags, bad tags, or jack-of-all-trades tags
 
user315433
 
user315433
Not kidding. Compare the counts of questions and tags in this table: data.stackexchange.com
 
user315433
The sites are ordered by the number of questions. Reading the tag count column shows which sites have unusually low or unusually high number of tags.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@zaq Which is a good thing? A high number?
 
user315433
Since you are asking for sites "without A, B, C" it looks like you want fewer tags.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
5:11 PM
I do, but it's because I wanna cull tags
ELU has only 929 tags and I'm damn sure that site's tags are broken
 
user315433
Okay, so it's not about quantity so much but about too broad/vague tags.
 
user315433
Like single-word-requests or such
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Exactly
My theory is that a good tagging system has some, say 5-10, really broad tags but tags you can quickly choose from.
It also should have very few tags with only one or two applications
 
user315433
Biology has 683 tags vs 253 on Chemistry, with fewer questions overall.
 
user315433
But this is really subject specific. Programming sites are naturally divided by language, that's an obvious choice for primary tags.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
5:16 PM
Only 14k questions? Dang, they really fell behind
 
user315433
In Sciences... can one really split organic-chemistry into subfields in a useful way?
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@zaq Yeah sure, but each of those are tags as well
 
user315433
By splitting I meant you wouldn't need the umbrella tag any more.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@zaq At first glance, the systems look alike. 5-10 really broad tags that come to mind first when you wanna choose tags. And a mass of moderately sized tags
@zaq It's too useful not to have
 
user315433
On Math site, there are popular tags real-analysis, complex-analysis, functional-analysis, harmonic-analysis, fourier-analysis, but the umbrella "analysis" tag is discouraged as not useful. (And periodically proposed for burnination.) Again, subject-specific...
 
user315433
5:20 PM
Tags categories: fields of expertise > objects of study > properties of those objects
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
An organic chemistry question is either about reaction mechanisms, kinetics, thermodynamics, a specific reaction or IUPAC nomenclature.
None of these can indicate the organic-chemistry-ness of the question well.
Frankly, it sometimes even feels under-applied
Is there an easy way to fetch a list of tags, a list that I can modify, like in Excel?
 
user315433
Together with their counts?
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
That would be nice to have, but not necessary
Using SEDE sounded a bit messy IIRC
 
user315433
I don't see why it's messy: data.stackexchange.com/chemistry/query/623602/list-of-tags you get a CSV file, import into Excel / Google Sheets/ etc.
 
user315433
TIL that the TagName field magically linkifies in SEDE
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
5:27 PM
Hmm, let's see what I can do
I'm not actually trying to fix Chem. I'm trying to fix ELL
The thing that stinks in Chem right now is the HW policy, and people seem to keep misunderstanding the new post I wrote about it. :/
 
user315433
5:38 PM
I was not fond of that post myself, and Oprah meme didn't help.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@zaq I've not posted for such a long time that I have lost my touch
 
user315433
Why should I care what someone else is interested in? What matters is if I'm interested in the question.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Probably
But I should first understand what they misunderstood in my post
@zaq Hmm?
 
user315433
> Textbook questions should demonstrate interest in the thought process leading to the answer, either by showing effort or inquiring conceptually different questions.
 
user315433
I don't care what the OP is interested in.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
5:41 PM
Well, that's not what I meant.
I meant something like 4.
Sometimes, it's obvious with the way the question is asked, that the OP knows what they're talking about
Throwing a boilerplate response and telling them to read stuff they already know isn't gonna help then
 
user315433
Anyway, the problem is unsolvable so you can just as well give up.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Thank you for your inspiration
 
user315433
The "effort/interest/conceptial" is a proxy for "I don't want to see the same crappy questions every day that aren't even questions but desperate pleas".
 
user315433
To which the answer is : "read a book instead".
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Not for all users.
Thing is, it doesn't make much sense to just require effort in every question and close it if it doesn't comply
That's not how everyday conversations work
And I don't want Chem to turn into SO this soon
 
user315433
5:44 PM
Agreed.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
So I'm giving a reason to the same closers not to close a question they believe will invoke some good discussion
The same closers.
So this won't help the normal HW vampires
 
user315433
So, (1) allow interesting questions regardless of effort; (2) require effort for non-interesting questions.
 
user315433
Not optimistic about the enforcement of such a policy.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Well, more people than before would go home happy
 
user315433
This is where the words "elitist" and "double standard" come in.
 
user315433
5:49 PM
And apparently, "elitist" is one step from "Nazi".
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@zaq Point
Lemme think
Dang, this was such a nice idea
Now it looks like poop
 
user315433
So, read a book instead.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Hmm, I was trying to make an exception a rule.
Now I get it.
 
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Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:17 PM
@M.A.R. hey, who said poop can't be nice? :D
 

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