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user202362

12:27 AM

Australia will support Donald Trump on strong border protection policies: Julie Bishop - typical 'not in my backyard' selfishness

user202362

But then again, I suspect that tech companies are against the immigration ban at least acting partially from self interest (hint. cheap 'talent'), but mostly because humanitarian reasons.

Alexis King

1:05 AM

That Meta SO post is sure something. Disappointed in the number of Taverners who VTC, but comforted by the order-of-magnitude difference in up/downvotes.

Rob

Nothing wrong with voting to close, really. Though, it's pointless as shown

Alexis King

The discussion is more telling. Clinging to rules when it has been repeatedly demonstrated your opponent ignores them is self-defeating.

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4:32 AM

user202362

pretty kitty

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user202362

4:57 AM

user202362

jpmc26

I see cats. This makes me feel better.

Suraj Jain

@jpmc26 What can i do in this situation?

little pootis

purr

jpmc26

@SurajJain I'd find a different question than that one to edit.

Suraj Jain

5:07 AM

@jpmc26 i AM TRYING SO HARD to make it up , i want answers and want to learn , nobod even left in comment what is srong with question , they just downvote

Jason C

Yo

Suraj Jain

@jpmc26 What do you mean ? sorry i am not understaning

Jason C

@SurajJain Wait, so, what question were you talking about again?

Suraj Jain

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A: Confused about pointer dereferencing

If you have something like , int x = 1234 ; int *p = &x; If You Dereference Pointer p then it will correctly read integer bytes. Because You declared it to be pointer to int . It will know how many bytes to read by sizeof() operator. Generally size of int is 4 bytes (for 32/64-bit platforms) ...

@JasonC stackoverflow.com/questions/34826036/…

jpmc26

Someone else already posted a better answer than yours. So if you need to edit to lift a ban, look at another question.

Jason C

5:08 AM

@jpmc26 If you want cats, the Tavern always delivers.

@SurajJain And what's the issue there? You got an edit ban?

Sorry if you told me in the other room and I forgot. Lots of noise there.

Suraj Jain

@JasonC I cannot ask any more question

because that question got downvoted

that is the issue

@JasonC Someone saw downvote they downvoted it agian

Jason C

Ah ok, so let's see...

@SurajJain Have you read meta.stackexchange.com/questions/86997/…?

Suraj Jain

even though the post has been so many times proofread , i have asked many to look at that , and edited it whatever i found i could , but people wont come back , i am tired now , cannot ask anymore

i have seen everything

it would take 6 months

Jason C

It's a 6 month ban?

Suraj Jain

if my question does not get upvote

yes

i mean , it is 5 months

jpmc26

5:10 AM

question bans are generally not the result of a single question, from what I understand.

Suraj Jain

if my question get upvote , then it would be lifted , becuase my positive contribution would get more weight then

2 questions are there , this one is the main

other one got upvoted as time passed , and it is not the problem

this one is the main as i have done everythng to keep it clean

and it was a reasonable question

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Suraj Jain

wHOEVER HAS UPVOTED it thanks a lot , i really mean a lot

downvotes signifiicantly reduces someone motivation to ask again and to learn

and even more if downvotes come in herd

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Jason C

@SurajJain In your question, in your test program, you say the actual output was -46 1234. What was your expected output?

Or did you not know what to expect when you first ran it?

Suraj Jain

5:17 AM

@JasonC I was trying to see what comes , i had no expectation , i was just expecting that it i am pointing char so maybe it will read first byte , i was just doing it out of curiosity , should i add that line

@JasonC I expermient a lot with C , so that i learn , so i do not understand what was coming , i did not knew endianness then

@JasonC Then i asked the question

@JasonC So that was the story , after a while i fugered it out , and add my answer to it.

@JasonC I learned a lot in doing all these , as i would go on askeing everyone to just read my answer and tell me if something is wrong , so that i could edit it and correct it , i do not want to write incorrect answer.

@JasonC It was my first answer.

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jpmc26

@SurajJain Have you given the other answer that overtook yours a read?

Suraj Jain

@jpmc26 It is same , just printf part was more and it is wrong that printf part , that using %d to print char is wrong , no it is correct , i had discussion for it with chux and ouaf , other then that it is same , just a little better presentation , i asked john bode , and also , he got som many downvotes quickly , maybe because he has high reputation , i had do wait so long to get it

@jpmc26 Problem is not about answer , it is about question , it got downvoted unncecesarially serial downvotes

I would come back an hour later

i have MY computer architecture class.

thank you all

Jason C

We'll see if it turns around. I make no promises.

Later

jpmc26

well, let me put it this way, his answer starts off by pointing out that you invoke "Undefined behavior." That's a big deal in C, since when you invoke undefined behavior, the compile can do anything, including make demons fly out of your nose.

But you don't reference that fact at all.

Jason C

5:25 AM

I think the primary issue with that question, really, was it's basicness. It's sort of something that you're expected to have found out on your own, like it or not. There are likely other questions that deal with the same topic. I think it's a fine question but I'm sure that's where the dvs were coming from.

It's tough when new users come in with new questions, vs. long time users who have seen the question a bunch of times, or who are conditioned to disregard certain types of questions.

I usually use an analogy to trying to talk your way out of a speeding ticket. To you, you're reasonable. To the cop, he's heard it all before.

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user202362

anyone else knows perl well here?

Jon Ericson

6:35 AM

@Telkitty Moderately well. (As in, I used it all the time for about a decade and barely at all any more.) Why?

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user202362

so if I want to transport a boolean variable from app to a server by calling a cgi script, do I explicitly use 0 or 1?

user202362

ok, it might not be about perl after all

Jon Ericson

@Telkitty That ought to work:

5

score

1

example

True and false

5

List of true and false values

8 contributors

edited Oct 20 '16 at 17:26

ikegami

211k7140322

user202362

nvm, just me being lazy, thx 4 the help

Jon Ericson

6:41 AM

No problem. I never mind talking about Perl. ;-)

Suraj Jain

6:53 AM

@jpmc26 You have downvoted instead.?

@jpmc26 Do you even read what i said , have you gone through question , where is the undefined behaviour

@jpmc26 What he pointed out was using %d to print char

@jpmc26 And i have asked that with ouah 100l+ rep , and chux . 50k +rep that that is not undefined

refered to standard

can even show you where it is written

jpmc26

@SurajJain I don't know C, so I didn't vote either way on any post. =)

Suraj Jain

and he also said i have not explicitly cast pointer , i have changed that now , more than one month ago ,...

@jpmc26 Someone downvoted here , jason uvoted , but some great person here downvoted ,,.....

@jpmc26 Oh. oK , Thanks for listening by the way . Have a nice day

jpmc26

@SurajJain It's not necessarily good to change a question after answers have been posted and upvoted.

My advice was find a different question to edit.

Suraj Jain

Actually , I have edited it to remove all the areas where one migh see i made a bad point

@jpmc26 It is this one only .. see jason upvoted it , now someone downvoted it .. jason hmself said it is good question , he knows C

i need to get this question right

otherwise my ban would not be lifted

jpmc26

I dunno, then. =/ That question is pretty much a lost cause imo.

Suraj Jain

7:04 AM

I am writing a meta post

will sent you the link

@jpmc26

user202362

any bad turn out will only become 2x worse on meta

jpmc26

yeah... don't link the question.

just say that there doesn't seem to be much possibility to improve that post. what else can you do?

@SurajJain

Suraj Jain

@jpmc26 Thanks For the tip , i linked it but removed it , i am sure there would many more downvotes then

user202362

if you are banned anywhere and you come to meta to ~~complain~~ 'explain' about your situation, this is what meta looks like:

user202362

7:08 AM

and you are will be a little rabbit in that picture

Suraj Jain

@Telkitty can you also see the question

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Q: Dereferencing this pointer gives me -46, but I am not sure why

While trying to teach myself about pointers, I wrote the following test program: #include <stdio.h> int main() { int y = 1234; char *p = (char *)&y; int *j = &y; printf("%d " , *p); printf("%d" , *j); } I am slightly confused about the output. What I'm seeing is:...

@Telkitty What should i do then ?

user202362

ask a CM to dissociate it from your account, and one says yes, delete it so it can be dissociated

user202362

also don't print %d when it's pointed to a char

Suraj Jain

@Telkitty Thanks for the upvote on question , i recieved two , dont know who the other is ... i will do so

meagar

@SurajJain Consider fixing some of your other downvoted questions as well as posting some good answers

Suraj Jain

7:17 AM

@meagar I posted this answer stackoverflow.com/questions/6749569/…

@meagar And i really dont know what is wrong in it , i pointed to standard and that is the best thing one can do , refer to the best

meagar

Well, you posted a new answer to a 5 year old question which already had an accepted answer, and your answer doesn't really contain any new information

Don't do that. Post original answers to new questions.

Suraj Jain

7:55 AM

@meager But why does it got downvoted , i mean there is not anything wrong in that answer as such . i referred the standard

4castle

@SurajJain Downvoting has the purpose of communicating that "this answer is not useful" (it's on the tooltip), it doesn't necessarily reflect correctness.

Suraj Jain

@4castle accepted answer was in june and other answer posted was on december which got upvotes same answer

4castle

@SurajJain If someone else has already posted the same answer, then your answer wouldn't be useful

Suraj Jain

@4castle Same answer as the already selected asnwer , i am talking that that question got answer on jun accepted someone posted asnwer on nov same answer , upvoted , i posted the answer , reddered to correct documentation , everyone reffered to w3school which you know is not accepted in html , i refereed to mdn and even quoted

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9:10 AM

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Stijn

9:31 AM

Does anyone know of an alternative to the official SE API documentation?

I find the official one to be rather poor...

Bart

You can always start it on the Documentation site. :p

Suraj Jain

10:44 AM

can someone tell me on which chat should i discuss C

user202362

C

C stands for Control.

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M.A.R.

11:47 AM

@NathanTuggy I said "not 100% political", not "100% not political" - there is politics here of course, and making a stand, but the "core" of his, as I see it, is about basic human rights, irrelevant to politics. (i.e. it doesn't matter what political party Trump belongs to, or how he operates) — Shadow Wizard 21 hours ago

Awarding linguist hats to @Sha

Which look like the square academic cap, except a little smaller, and digital

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. lol... thanks (?)

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Stijn

12:21 PM

hear, hear

Where was Spolsky when Israel built a wall to keep Palestinians out, or when Israel refused to take in refugees. Or when Obama dropped 100,000 bombs in 7 muslim countries, or when Obama's administration defined "countries of concern" which is the direct basis (and the only "banned" ones) for suspended visas - temporarily. Why not mention that Saudi Arabia has agreed to create secure zones for the refugees instead, and the plenty exceptions (read the EO!). This is the second time SO is abused for political left views & agenda, and is turning into a political tool. This belongs on a blog IMO. — K3N 3 hours ago

M.A.R.

Can we please not talk about that meta post?

Stijn

@M.A.R. ok 🤐

M.A.R.

@Stijn That is one cute rectangle

Stijn

@M.A.R. oh, it's a smiley with a zipper mouth :)

M.A.R.

Not on a Win 8 device it's not

Shadow Wizard

12:31 PM

@Stijn it's just a rectangle

emoji?

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard You need to use your imagination

Stijn

@ShadowWizard emojipedia.org/zipper-mouth-face

> Zipper-mouth Face was approved as part of Unicode 8.0 in 2015 under the name “Zipper-Mouth Face” and added to Emoji 1.0 in 2015.

I can see it on my Win10 machine in Firefox

M.A.R.

2015?

Who the heck lives in 2015?

Stijn

@M.A.R. you, apparently, with your Win8 machine :p

M.A.R.

As far as I'm concerned, this is Germany 1920s.

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rene

12:35 PM

The roaring twenties.

Bart

I remember those. Great time.

Ilmari Karonen

!!/report cooking.stackexchange.com/a/77910/10646

Sneaky spammer, copying the top answer and randomly replacing words with synonyms. I wonder if they have a script for that.

Stijn

@IlmariKaronen perhaps they query thesaurus.com

M.A.R.

Very smart nonetheless

user202362

I am on win7

user202362

12:47 PM

living in the far far away past

Shadow Wizard

1:00 PM

@M.A.R. imagination... *trying to imagine

Derpy

2:09 PM

@ShadowWizard the ideya of candy colored ponies fill you with determination

Bart

2:40 PM

I prefer candy filled ponies ... and a smiting stick

qwer

3:04 PM

(don't worry, it's filled with candy)

Derpy

3:19 PM

@Bart amazon.com/Pinkie-Little-Pony-Pinata-String/dp/B00427H776

asked, given. Now you just have to buy it and fill it with candies (which I suppose aren't included)

Bart

3:44 PM

Seems Joel removed the featured tag. I wonder if there will be any form of response

rene

Maybe we're going to see an delete/undelete war?

Bart

Let's hope not

rene

it is now closed, I guess we have enough opinion to discuss in the next 6 to 8 podcasts

Bart

Reopened in 3 ... 2 ...

and there we go

rene

@Bart it takes a while for the cache to invalidate. If they hit that previous bug we're going to see that post featured for the next 6 to 8 weeks.

Bart

3:54 PM

I say we blame @JeremyBanks ... because he's here ...

Stijn

@Bart by our VP of Community Growth, of all people

Bart

At this point I no longer care who does what @Stijn. It's wasted energy.

Anonymous

4:06 PM

Blame away if it'll help defuse some energy.

Anonymous

Urg.

Bart

jk @JeremyBanks. No worries.

Bart

5:14 PM

And another one: wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/254394/…

Bart

5:25 PM

Gone

rene

6:35 PM

serious now. The sidebar for hot meta posts is stuck and one of the meta posts I answered is on it and it doesn't deserve that attention. Can someone cuddle that server component and invalidate the cache?

It does resolve another issue as well...

M.A.R.

@rene THE LOWERCASE SICKNESS THING?

rene

Yeah, that one

Train-wreck

For some reason new users now think you can post all kind of answers on meta, no matter what.

Shog9

As opposed to the old users who already knew that, had fun with it, and have mostly moved on to other things.

M.A.R.

@rene Gee, still trying to make a point?

This atmosphere is exactly how Mr. Drumpf managed to grab the power lead. A disregard for your leader/manager

rene

that is all true

Thanks Shog

Feeds

6:51 PM

Stack Overflow Podcast #100 - Jeff Atwood Is Back! (For Today)

Jess Pardue on January 30, 2017

Welcome to the Stack Overflow podcast #100!! Recorded Thursday, January 26, 2017 at Stack Overflow headquarters in NYC. Today's podcast is brought to you by the Cheeseburger. "It's a hamburger, topped with cheese!" But the real question is: Is a cheeseburger a sandwich? The podcast is also brought to you by IBM Compose. Compose has spent the last 5 years helping developers ship applications with production grade databases. Try Compose today and get a free limited edition T-Shirt. Hurry! Quantities are limited. Visit compose.com today. (Unfortunately, t-shirts are US only.)

M.A.R.

Is Back Jeff's last name?

Or is it actually Back J. Atwood?

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bjb568

8:35 PM

SE's front-end really sucks.

They couldn't even make a basic layout.

A basic layout to display a number in HTML.

Bart

8:51 PM

That's where DevDoodle will be different

bjb568

that's where DevDoodle already is different

user315433

There might be a connection between those two posts. The queue is full because relatively few people are suckered into reviewing by "SO is moderated by you". And the number of remaining believers in that slogan is likely to decrease after 15 diamond-reopenings of that meta post.

rene

that might be an unexpected side-effect yes

user315433

Heh, look at this: Testing, testing… Let's test the low quality review queue for science!. There was a time when I would read a post with such a title.

user315433

Not in the mood now.

user315433

8:57 PM

CMs appear to have enough spare time, so why not leave reviewing to them.

Bart

9:27 PM

You seem to be grumpy

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Shadow Wizard

@zaq did you count Joel's own diamond in this 15?

@bjb568 it works only for numbers related Jon Skeet. (e.g. even when he'll have 10000000 rep, design won't break)

Alexis King

10:48 PM

@bjb568 Your attitude sucks.

True and false

C

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