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user202362
12:34 AM
when you put everything on log 10 scale, everything gigantic looks smaller ...
 
user202362
so I am a 3 on log scale, highest rep possible is about 6
 
user202362
12:46 AM
I am not a fan of flights - like a cattle truck in the sky that transports people with all those burps and farts circulating
 
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1:38 AM
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2:14 AM
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qwer
qwer
 
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@qwer User blacklisted (411650 on math.stackexchange.com).
 
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@qwer User blacklisted (411625 on math.stackexchange.com).
 
user202362
3:09 AM
After American tech companies evading taxes all around the world and their executives getting paid 100 times more than their tech talents ... I mean their software engineers, how cynical should I treat their call of import of cheap labour, I mean protest of immigration ban to be?
 
user202362
humanitarian concerns, yes
 
user202362
but true motivation ...
 
qwer
qwer
Publicity!
 
user202362
Oo
 
user202362
Sometimes, I don't want sound like I am marinated in cynicism, but then again, I hate to be seem belonging to a herd of idiots more ... catch 22 of life
 
user202362
3:20 AM
posting more cute/funny pictures to wash away that bitter taste ...
 
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3:53 AM
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4:10 AM
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uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
4:24 AM
So.
Chat now runs on Windows 98 SE.
You heard it here first.
 
user202362
real machine or VM ware?
 
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
VirtualBox VM.
 
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qwer
qwer
4:44 AM
Try IE :)
 
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
You ready for the kicker?
 
qwer
qwer
Umm, wait for a moment.
 
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
The Google homepage still renders perfectly in IE 5.5.
It's quite limited but it works.
 
qwer
qwer
:O
 
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
There were people learning how to drive last year that weren't alive when that browser came out.
That not only makes me feel old, it makes me feel sick :P
 
Rob
Rob
4:49 AM
I don't think I've ever seen IE5/6 without a warning icon in the bottom left
 
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
Not since 2001, you haven't :P
 
Rob
Rob
Unfortunately, I've had to work with IE6 well past 2001 ;)
Not anymore, thankfully
 
user202362
try win 95 ...
 
user202362
& red hat 2.0!
 
qwer
qwer
Microsoft Plus!
 
user202362
4:58 AM
MS DOS ...
 
user202362
command line stack overflow!
 
user202362
ssh root@stackoverflow.com
 
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
uɐɯsO uɐɥʇɐN
I recently wrote about Debian 0.91 on my blog: blog.quickmediasolutions.com/2016/08/23/…
 
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5:14 AM
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Shog9
Shog9
5:40 AM
@JasonC what's the question?
 
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5:52 AM
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6:07 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: I guess it's frequent that there are so many professors out there with Testomenix? by terelaare on apple.stackexchange.com
 
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6:37 AM
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6:51 AM
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7:09 AM
 
rene
rene
7:37 AM
I can imagine, due to the events over last weekend, that SE Staff is occupied with more important things but once the dust has settled could someone have a look at this one, or maybe give some hints where I need to look at to figure this out myself so I can answer:
3
Q: How can I find out the reason for losing near 300 points of reputation

Nuri TasdemirToday, I have noticed that my reputation fell below 5K. It was above 5K like I don't know 5-10 days ago. However I couldn't find the reason of this change in reputation. Probably it is related to "documents". I don't know maybe an example is deleted. How can I learn the reason? By the way I did ...

support documentation reputation
Yes, I know I posted this earlier ... but it got closed as a dupe and I just re-opened it
as you wish
 
user202362
gif too large to upload
 
rene
rene
This is going to be a great day ... everything you try fails .. :(
 
user202362
thanks for your fore warning of predicament
 
rene
rene
I always try to be helpful
 
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8:20 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Can hypnotherapy help to change my tastes in food? by Benn on cogsci.stackexchange.com
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:31 AM
So the podcast is now a weekly event? Or is it just a temporary rush of podcasts lately?
(and it will be back to once in 2-3 months like before)
 
Bart
Bart
9:06 AM
I guess the answer is "it is weekly for as long as that lasts" :D
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
lol
Typical Bart-ish reply :D
 
Bart
Bart
That means I deserve a coffee ... (and even if it doesn't mean that, I'm getting one)
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
!!/coffee
 
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@ShadowWizard brews coffee for @ShadowWizard
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
Here you go @Bart ^
One Smoking Coffee
 
Bart
Bart
9:14 AM
I like my coffee like I like my spambots
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
Final delete vote needed here @Bart @rene
 
Bart
Bart
Already has mine
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
oh, and here
damn I keep missing them as they're -8 and below
<rant>
Tim Post said he's going to post a follow-up on the Joel's Stand today. Wonder if it will really happen.
</rant>
(they finally locked it after 100 or so close wars)
 
Bart
Bart
I'm sure it will. Tim keeps his word
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart but he also keep losing his keys.
 
Bart
Bart
9:26 AM
As long as it's not those on his keyboard, he'll be fine
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
You think his keyboard is locked?
 
Bart
Bart
Caps locked at most
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
THAT'S HORRIBLE. JUST HORRIBLE.
 
Derpy
Derpy
@ShadowWizard THE GREAT PAPYRUS APPROVES
 
Bart
Bart
I used to have a boss who wrote angry emails to us in all caps, but who still used the shift key. sO YOU ENDED UP WITH THIS.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
9:32 AM
@Bart that's... vERY SAD. loL.
what happened to the bosS?
 
Bart
Bart
She's still going strong at 70-something years old
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
omg
well many... not-young people I know write. like. this
that's because two spaces on many android devices becomes a dot.
 
Bart
Bart
like. totally.
 
user202362
someone in my bushwalking group writes.messages.like.this
 
Bart
Bart
I think you are allowed to kill one of them each year. But check your local laws.
 
user202362
9:38 AM
In fact, so many birds fly in airplanes that the UAE government reportedly issued 28,000 falcon passports between 2002 and 2013
 
user202362
then I thought about that immigration ban on those 7 contries
 
qwer
qwer
Birds flying from those countries to US?
 
user202362
didn't mention the destination
 
user202362
 
Bart
Bart
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
9:46 AM
@Bart why the seats are covered?
 
user202362
just need someone to bring on board a chicken ...
 
user202362
@Bart some rows have more falcons than others ... never mind, maybe just the angle
 
Bart
Bart
@Telkitty I guess some got an upgrade for extra legroom
 
user202362
8 per row in the middle it seems
 
user202362
8 falcons for 3 seats
 
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10:35 AM
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11:20 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post, blacklisted user: Parisian Glow stomach fats spreads by lunixuk on apple.stackexchange.com
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Bart
Bart
Thanks for the shiny silver badge @JonEricson ;)
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
11:52 AM
Wow, since when does a community bump add a banner?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
I installed Jessie pixel with my pi board, I tried to install opencv but I couldn't ,Opencv is showing only in my python 2 but when I try image processing using python 2 I am getting errors like size width error in Imshow — user350197 2 mins ago
That's what happens when you feed the trolls ^
(I stopped commenting on those long ago, unless the author is a long time member or something like that.)
This is a brand new feature that didn't get implemented quite correctly. Devs will take care of it. :) — animuson ♦ Nov 27 '16 at 21:54
So, end of November 2016
And of course, it started with lots of bugs. @Oded fixed them all though. ;)
 
Stijn
Stijn
12:15 PM
10
Q: Allow users to edit the API documentation

Awesome PoodlesThe API documentation has more than a few typos, errors, and unclear bits. Many of these have been noted in comments over the years and there are 44 bug complaints on Stack Apps. (That's a LOT of activity for Stack Apps). Other sites also occasionally report API documentation problems. For exam...

feature-request status-planned api documentation
 
Bart
Bart
hehe
 
user202362
why did I read that tag as status-banned?
 
Bart
Bart
Because that's your biggest fear?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart or hope
 
Bart
Bart
So she can show she's the rebel she claims to be?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
12:29 PM
@Bart yup
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Telkitty is the only force that remains to push back the empire
Stupid joke-ruining typo
 
user202362
12:47 PM
@M.A.R. like this? ... maybe NSFW
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Telkitty NSFM
Now the poor boy got a lifetime trauma
 
user202362
M for Monday? or Man?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
It's Tuesday, so no
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Not Safe for Mustard?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R. nah, Mustard is totally fine with naked women
 
user202362
12:52 PM
you can't prove that she's naked, you have seen nothing yet ...
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Not Safe For Mangoes
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R. the man goes? Nah
@Telkitty no need to prove. Enough to imagine. ;)
 
Derpy
Derpy
1:13 PM
charging user ban laser...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
dodging
 
Stijn
Stijn
@ShadowWizard roll a d6
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Stijn 5
 
Stijn
Stijn
You've successfully dodged @Derpy's ban laser!
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Eating @Derpy's ban laser
Nom nom nom
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
1:19 PM
@Stijn yay! giving flowers to the Goddess of Luck
 
Derpy
Derpy
@Stijn sorry, this requires my special custom fudge dices... which have 4 - faces and 2 white ones. Task difficulty: Very Hard.
 
user202362
 
Derpy
Derpy
I will accept "Mage Training" as a fitting aspect, but only for a "Fair" base trait.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Telkitty Where's this from?
STUPID ENTER KEY
 
user202362
found this while searching for the phrase 'rebel cat gif' on google image >_<
 
qwer
qwer
1:23 PM
Reverse-searching that image didn't really helpful...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R. so take it out
Ban all the Enterz!
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
My shift keys have stopped working for quite some time
I don't need to take them out. They're out already
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@qwer why? Worked for me...
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Star wars Rebels
I remember it now
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R. at least they're not Sticky. (no, not what you think I mean. ;))
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
1:27 PM
It was a TV show about rebels rebelling in a possible future
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
The whole Star Wars is about a "possible future". :D
 
qwer
qwer
I just understood how Google reverse-image the GIF... it takes a single frame just when you click it...
I got "animal", "animal hybrid" on other frames
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@qwer really?? not the first frame?
let me see...
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
That said, the cat's jaw is creepy
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@qwer nope. For me it's taking this same frame always. What browser you have?
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
1:29 PM
It's like a perfect sphere
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R. submit bug report on Star Wars Meta
;)
 
qwer
qwer
Chrome, perhaps because of some extensions...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@qwer also, the Image search works by converting the image to base-64 string, I think it's converting the whole gif, not a single frame.
the gif is:
AMhZZivDVg7xd22iioHEkFgCw64X5gBR_1q0Ylw311GdLXWBS3LKxq3wVlz0-m7Ki0SehK2hsC7c5MHOBE06TIBUjmbeFlCmSE2d0R2iVpxQ8w-S53peUSkNG3JJEP8Om1T7V56l7q33ViDxVWc-n-OASTiyc4fY6cpibvkHZGz6lAMDoRpWRTFUR-Am0zruquvoxuCPyCtmCwufyzSTdl7Js5pRnKi3etJudYWbHfyCPjOlxorqU-DX5d68x1cXExJOxrJVWhJW4Actkg1jJX1SozOkurpnlrcsf_1UQaBc3LBUqqLHV2Hzj3s9qf_1nMEoks1lAUt0qwPMh9mPaahvWhekUvlvELpNrr750PhoK_1_1jnfV_1vwU7JnG-y7Z8HNEwxiXSAKmVHWZCZWqrEUmWn9CBKD2kbhc1YbZPKWtNiZVENOWwWDeNhySZXpiHICAD-ggjBviqsj4k-5_1xS4dieBWPZxdpGR727GukR21TZkJrZetUnWoFXyqugUn2MdoaQXmNzmWl4JsSTacS4MWMDo0lSLBi75DKgnRETd5iS3KoZAUsHvXu01A2dFLu-d6yk…
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Sha's lying. Don't listen to him. Those are some cryptic message to the other spy in the room, Bart
 
qwer
qwer
Apparently not because of the extension! Repro'd on Chrome 55 incognito without any extensions...
I got 3 different base-64 strings based on 3 clicks though
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
1:34 PM
hmm.... OK, weird.
 
qwer
qwer
It's Google. It's weird.
 
Derpy
Derpy
@ShadowWizard and now you are doomed. Just wait till the guys at Science&Fictions see this...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
:(
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Derpy A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away people used incorrect ellipsees and lacked comma resources
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R. you really want a comma?
 
Derpy
Derpy
1:37 PM
 
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Derpy
Derpy
happy now? :P
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ShadowWizard Strictly speaking, yes
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Derpy Yes!
@M.A.R. catch!
 
Derpy
Derpy
I see you are felling nostalgic today....
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
1:40 PM
of course, my most downvoted question... ;)
 
Derpy
Derpy
you really wanted to get me into using the button again....
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
oh, you mean this. But hey, Adam posted that pic!
huh!
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Derpy So his real name is So Uncouth ShadowWizard?
 
user202362
@Derpy as an apex predator, I am getting hungry staring at your unicorn pony
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Telkitty whose horse?
 
qwer
qwer
1:41 PM
@ShadowWizard Woah, that's almost NSFW
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@qwer almost.... but not :)
 
qwer
qwer
depends on who sees it ;p
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
hiding behind @Adam
 
Derpy
Derpy
1:56 PM
cumulonimbus expanding
thunder rumbling in the distance
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Derpy no, it's my stomach. Haven't eaten for four hours.
hmm.... I wonder, does SE give money back for food for those working from home? @Shog
 
Derpy
Derpy
please, @ShadowWizard, could you hold this iron rod for me for a while? Try to hold it up in the sky, I have some business I must attend on those storm clouds up there.
 
Bart
Bart
@ShadowWizard can the Stack Chefs choose to work from home?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart if they can make a delivery, sure why not. ;)
@Derpy sure. giving rod to @Bart
 
Bart
Bart
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
2:04 PM
> If the CEO, Joel Spolsky, or one of the company officers makes a post that the community attempts to close or delete, please override the community and ensure it stays open.
hehe, is someone frustrated?
 
Bart
Bart
It's amazing how frustrated people got over that
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart I can understand them, but then again... SE/SO isn't a democracy, for good and for bad.
 
Bart
Bart
And there really is no point in having a tug of war. Just go discuss the issue in the post that was made for it and otherwise spend your energy on more useful things.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
Hard to spend energy on other things when your mind is seriously distracted...
 
Bart
Bart
Focus people. Focus
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
2:29 PM
@Bart Ford?
 
Bart
Bart
I don't know what is worse; your jokes, or the fact that I get them.
 
Derpy
Derpy
Would you prefer to understand my MLP references instead?
 
Bart
Bart
2
A: Should the "Time to take a stand" question be closed / moved?

Tim Post tl;dr - The post is going to stay, and stay open. We (as employees) need to reserve the ability to reach you on our own platform if we feel that it's necessary. However, it was posted in a hurry and we didn't consider everything that we probably should have; we're looking at making some c...

Can we add a feature to the entire network that would allow me to visually distance myself from the network's political beliefs? For I do not want to be associated with you. — Stephan Bijzitter 1 min ago
... would it be too much to suggest that deleting the account would work?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
2:47 PM
@Bart it's not instant for active users
@Bart you decide!
 
Bart
Bart
Stop stealing my responses @zaq
 
qwer
qwer
On the other hand, I just realized Kasra got covered by CNN...
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart but that's all the fun...
@qwer huh! How they reached him?
 
qwer
qwer
found when searching "stack overflow immigration ban" on Google
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@qwer heh, it doesn't mention the MSO post by Joel.... that also can make a good article.
But still, wonder how they got to him.
 
user315433
3:04 PM
@Bart Casting a CV takes a lot less energy than discussion. And has marginally more effect: the tug of war got the post locked, while discussion achieved exactly nothing.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
New hat for Winterbash 2017:
 
Bart
Bart
@zaq given Tim's response, I wouldn't say discussion achieved nothing.
 
user315433
I read it as "whatever, Joel's the boss". With a lot more extra words in between.
 
Bart
Bart
@ShadowWizard looks like Queen Beatrix' hair
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@zaq more like "OK, we understand your anger, but we won't stop doing that."
@Bart how you know Beatrix's hair?
 
user315433
3:08 PM
Being understood by Tim Post is pretty low on my list of life goals.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@zaq would it be better if that post was written by Joel himself?
 
user315433
Especially considering he'll do what the boss wants, understanding or not.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
(I mean the answer Tim posted)
 
Bart
Bart
"he'll do what the boss wants" ... isn't that called being an employee? And if you can't do that, make sure you're no longer an employee?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
Well, there's a red line somewhere.
 
Bart
Bart
3:11 PM
Sure
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
But don't think they came close to it in this current ordeal. So far.
 
Bart
Bart
Well, given the complaints to HR within SO, there are at least some less than pleased with the company line.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
I mean, suppose Trump will give an executive order to shut down the Internet for whole USA. Will SO users still object to the company making a stand?
It's quite similar.
 
qwer
qwer
On unrelated note,
5
A: Is Stack Overflow accessible in China?

Ciro Santilli 烏坎事件2016六四事件 法轮功There are many websites that claim to check that for us: https://en.greatfire.org/stackoverflow.com http://www.blockedinchina.net/?siteurl=http%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com%2F http://viewdns.info/chinesefirewall/?domain=http%3A%2F%2Fstackoverflow.com http://www.websitepulse.com/help/testtools.chin...

 
Bart
Bart
@ShadowWizard there is always an aspect of "this does/doesn't affect me" in those responses
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
3:15 PM
@Bart well, give Trump time and he'll make sure to affect every single person in the USA. Good or bad... only time will tell.
 
qwer
qwer
(back to answering question on SE)
 
Raghav Sood
Raghav Sood
o/
 
qwer
qwer
\o
 
Raghav Sood
Raghav Sood
I don't suppose anyone here wields enough power to force a cache update of a chat user?
 
Bart
Bart
\o\
cacheupdatiamos!
 
Raghav Sood
Raghav Sood
3:23 PM
Didn't work :/
I've also tried sacrificing a goat
 
Bart
Bart
Outdated firmware on my smiting stick I guess
 
Raghav Sood
Raghav Sood
And praying to the Cache Overlords
Yet, just 9 minutes shy of an hour from gaining 20 rep, my test user still has no chat access
I'm beginning to lose my faith in my magical powers
Next thing I'll have people telling me the world is logical and deterministic
Aha, my prayers have been answered
All praise be to whoever is in charge
 
qwer
qwer
cool!
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
3:43 PM
oh no that matbucha was more spicy than expected
looking for water
 
user315433
@Bart Yeah; but then what's the point of discussing things with people who don't make the decision on the matter? The one who decides isn't a part of discussion.
 
Bart
Bart
That is an unfortunate practicality of any interaction with a company or individual with spokespeople. I still however rather speak up and be ignored than not speak up at all. And maybe I'm naive, but I never got the impression that we are ignored by SO/SE
 
user315433
4:01 PM
> we block a not-so-insignificant portion of China for traffic abuse. The bans, nice messages, and our willingness to give second chances are there for a reason. We honestly do try and be nice about it...but if you threaten the quality of Stack Overflow we will react. -- meta.stackexchange.com/a/126746
 
user315433
So outrageous, carving the world into us vs. them
 
Shog9
Shog9
4:16 PM
@ShadowWizard not as like a per diem, but there is a small monthly reimbursement for "use of home office".
 
Bart
Bart
@zaq us vs. them being "abusers vs non-abusers"?
 
user315433
4:39 PM
Yeah, like banning a "not-so-insignificant portion of China" affects only abusers.
 
Derpy
Derpy
not to play devil advocate.... but still a pretty weird way to say that.
"Please, abusive users from China. Do stop being abusive, otherwise we will ban the other non-abusive users from your country that aren't you and you probably don't care about at all"
 
user315433
A ban affecting millions of people (what else would "not-so-insignificant portion of China" be?), motivated by some security considerations. Sounds familiar.
 
Bart
Bart
That's not "us vs. them" though
 
user315433
Sure, there is no "us vs them" in Trump's order either. It's a security concern.
 
user315433
(Just to get this out of the way: I'm Kasra-hating Nazi)
 
Derpy
Derpy
4:43 PM
@Bart what Zaq probably meant is that they are somehow creating a "us Vs them" scenario anyway. In that case it is "good users VS the Chinese hackers". The point seems to be that the message seems to associate the idea of "abusive user" to the idea of "Chinese user", even if indirectly.
but I sadly have to go for now, so if you like just leave a message here and I will try to reply later.
 
Bart
Bart
Cya :)
 
 
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Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
6:20 PM
@Shog9 nice... here in Israel many hi-tech companies give their employees a card charged with money, that can be used in many restaurants and coffee houses.
Something like 30 NIS per day. (~8 USD)
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
6:56 PM
@Bart Sure thing. (I'm planning an appropriate response the next time someone says, "We can just award that badge manually, right?")
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@JonEricson The Census badge?
 
rene
rene
@JonEricson Yes, We Can!
No thanks, glad I could be of help.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@rene OK, so can I haz census badge?
 
rene
rene
Sure you can. Ask Jon. He is Chief Badge Awarding
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@rene Creamy Biscuits Archery?
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
7:35 PM
@M.A.R. Did you take the survey?
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@JonEricson Nope, I'm not a developer
 
rene
rene
You have to smile, right?
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@AlexisKing Duh, it's feline
@rene Huh?
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@M.A.R. That just means you'll get through it a lot quicker. The first question asked about that and many of the following questions are suppressed if you aren't working with code.
 
rene
rene
someone hates -ism's ? meta.stackexchange.com/q/290503
 
Shog9
Shog9
7:56 PM
@ShadowWizard That's cool. But, I'm quite happy just saving money on gas not driving to an office every day; quite honestly, that more than makes up for what I spend on food.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@JonEricson is there anything stopping people from putting URL of a different user? (e.g. validating the email address)
@Shog9 hmm.... thought gas is cheap in the USA... and you can also use bike. ;)
 
Shog9
Shog9
@ShadowWizard If I had to bike to downtown Denver every day, they'd have to hire another chef just to compensate for my caloric intake.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
> there was a developer error
 
Shog9
Shog9
(that's about 70 miles, mostly highway)
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Shog9 whoa... well, so move to a closer location.... :D
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
7:59 PM
@ShadowWizard No. I really hope we have a better system next year.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@JonEricson so there's a good chance to see posts like "How did I get this badge out of nowhere?!" on MSO/MSE? ;)
Unless the survey will actually look in the user credentials, can't see how it's possible. (oops, didn't mean for double reply)
(maybe sending email to the one provided in the final step, then a click there award the badge?)
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@ShadowWizard If we hosted the survey ourselves, it would be easy. That's the direction I'd like to see us go.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@JonEricson I see. Well, that's not going to be easy... or cheap. Difficult choice to make.
(plus, surely there will be tons of bugs... unless you somehow do some beta testing before?)
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@ShadowWizard I'm sure there would be. There were some bugs and plenty of annoyances with Surveymonkey even though we did do some beta testing there too.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@JonEricson but the bugs I saw reported were only wrong text, not something really "fatal". Unless I missed some bugs? I mean, Surveymonkey is a huge platform with tons of experience in this, so hard to believe they got serious bugs in their platform.
 
Shog9
Shog9
8:14 PM
@ShadowWizard yeah... There was maybe a 6-month window after the housing crash where you could get a decent living space in Denver for a decent price. Today, I'd take a pretty big hit for the proximity.
Much prefer working remotely :)
 
Bart
Bart
And without the commute you have even more time to spend with us and our shenanigans... Yay
 
Shog9
Shog9
well, it ain't all roses
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
Sometimes dandelions
 
Bart
Bart
Most of the time fertilizer
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Shog9 well, @Pekka is living on an island, he also got it in a sale or something. :D
 
Bart
Bart
8:17 PM
Is that one of those "genuine" Pekka islands?
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
yeah, no Gucci bags.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Bart Everything is an island unless you're a fish
Which you're not.
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@ShadowWizard The progress bar was awfully confused by our branching paths. It also abrupting halts all progress whenever a typo was corrected. I know they have a ton of experience that we don't. But it would be so nice to own the experience. (I'd also like to conduct other, smaller surveys throughout the year.)
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard

Pekka is living on an island

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For you, @M.A.R. ^
@JonEricson I see. Well, I totally agree, also helped to build internal survey system as part of a big project last year. It works just fine, though turned out more complicated than we expected.
 
Bart
Bart
"Couple of multiple choice questions, a progress bar, how difficult can it be?"
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:23 PM
@Bart actually, no progress bar or branches in our surveys. All the questions are right there. And it was still complicated. D:
 
Bart
Bart
Somehow the "simple" stuff always ends up being difficult
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
oh, that's sooooo true...
Out of something like 20 features I've added last month, those I thought would be most difficult turned out to be the most simple, and vice versa.
 
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@ShadowWizard Thanks you
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@M.A.R. my pleasure
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@ShadowWizard I wrote a tic-tac-toe game a few weeks ago. It took a couple of hours including testing. I felt great about myself. The next day I found a bunch of bugs playing it again. Programming can be humbling.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:32 PM
@JonEricson oh, that's very true. So where's the game? ;)
 
Bart
Bart
Steam Greenlight
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@ShadowWizard Hiding away where nobody will ever see it. ;-) (I might put it on my itch.io page if I ever get the, um, itch to fix those bugs.)
 
Bart
Bart
Ah, that's where I keep my stuff as well. Where nobody will ever see it :D
I should really pick up some of my projects again actually. But just not motivation recently.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@JonEricson lol, know what you mean... :P
@Bart what projects for example?
 
Bart
Bart
Writing a small entity-component-system game engine. Some fluid simulation stuff I want to do. Some game networking. I have some ideas for a frame profiler.
Plenty of stuff
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:43 PM
yeah.... great ideas... great potential... but no time? :/
 
Bart
Bart
Some time. Got an hour or two each night. But that's generally after a full day of dev already. So myeah
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
@Bart those hours I have are spent on gaming...
(not writing games, playing existing games ;))
 
Bart
Bart
Same here, generally :D
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
haha, what games?
 
Bart
Bart
It has been Overwatch for some time. Lately we're picking up Minecraft again (Vanilla and Modded) on a server. Used to be CS GO for a long time. And playing some random stuff every now and then.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:47 PM
@Jon how did you write Pico Waves? Java?
@Bart "we"? Real life friends? ;)
 
Bart
Bart
No actually. Online friends. Some of them streamers. Good fun though.
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
Well, I started Undertale as "random stuff" a while ago... nice game. /cc @Derpy
@Bart heh, still good. No console games?
 
Bart
Bart
I actually don't have any consoles at the moment. And shockingly (as a VR dev) not even VR games. :D
But I'm having my eye on the Switch
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@ShadowWizard Lua. I used this thingy:
 
Bart
Bart
Oh man, yeah, I've been wanting to play with that
And TIS-100 ...
grrr
 
Shadow Wizard
Shadow Wizard
8:57 PM
@JonEricson nice! Wonder how it works behind the scenes.... So, you're not really a programmer?
 
Jon Ericson
Jon Ericson
@ShadowWizard There's a manual. I used to work on C and Perl projects, but since I go this CM gig I haven't done much of anything but SQL and simple text manipulation.
 
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