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Aaron Hall

00:03

@bjb568 - I have no idea what you're trying to say about that guy...

bjb568

I'm just referring OP to him.

Aaron Hall

Oh, I get it now.

...

bjb568

heheh

Aaron Hall

I'm not joking.

bjb568

I know you aren't. That's why I didn't vote for you.

Aaron Hall

00:05

:P

bjb568

:3

Aaron Hall

pounces

bjb568

skurries

Aaron Hall

fights

user315433

> Experts say learning JavaScript alongside ABCs can help toddlers -- nypost.com/2016/10/23/…

Aaron Hall

00:09

"1" == 1

bjb568

@zaq I don't get what makes something count as a head start rather than just a normal activity that may enhance the ability in a particular area leading to the natural specialization that anyone who wants any money must go thru anyway.

bjb568

00:32

web.mit.edu/2.009/webcast

Aaron Hall

So what is that?

bjb568

Dunno yet.

Aaron Hall

ok then.

user315433

BJB is waiting for ED from MIT

user315433

> I'd want column 0 to have say 0.25, column 1 to have 0.5 and column 2 to have 0.24. therefore the magnitude of values would follow the bell curve with the mean at the middle column

user315433

00:40

PSA: to "follow the bell curve" does not mean to be small, and then large, and then small again.

Shog9

00:57

Then I've been living my life all wrong.

Aaron Hall

> O ye'll tak' the high road, and I'll tak' the low road,
And I'll be in Scotland afore ye,

bjb568

user202362

The rate of student suicide at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology continues to be notably higher than the national average for college campuses

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bjb568

@Telkitty Tends to be the case with high-pressure schools.

user202362

01:12

true

Aaron Hall

Yeah, they should look at the top 10 and the top 100 probably...

user202362

01:50

user315433

02:25

user315433

Those are types of rule violations. Teachers these days...

Aaron Hall

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user315433

I've answered a bunch of questions from secondary school teachers using Google Sheets. Their spreadsheets are often like this.

user315433

drive.google.com/…

Jason C

Lol, "PDA (Personal Display of Affection)"

I really want to know what the "Other"s are.

user315433

02:30

> Shorts were borderline. Told not to wear back.

Jason C

Lol

"Other Consequence Issued: Terminated"

user315433

> Internet search in class re "How to make a bomb".Put out on assessment.Referred to SRO.Further consequences pending outcome of assessment.

Jason C

Lol

I like how "bus misbehavior" comes in groups on the same day.

user202362

@JasonC is swearing a kind of Personal Display of Affection?

user315433

> Wearing sunglasses in classroom. Comment: Also is a cat.
(Haven't seen @bjb's disciplinary record yet)

Jason C

02:35

Haha I love this one: "Dress Code Violation. Comment: Also cutting in lunch line."

There he is, Fang-Ming Chang, future unabomber.

@zaq OMG, there's a student here named Promise Land.

She caused a "major disruption" in the cafeteria by arguing with another student. I bet that was epic.

@AlexisKing This is so much fun. drive.google.com/…

Promise is in here 3 times.

Alexis King

wait what is this and why did you ping me about it

Jason C

It's some random disciplinary report from some school that zaq had.

Alexis King

why are students being issued days of open source software?

Jason C

And I pinged you because NOBODY WAS APPRECIATING PROMISE LAND.

Ha, "mooning students"

I miss high school.

Alexis King

I was in high school 2 years ago

I don’t really miss it very much

Jason C

02:46

"Planted Concerta tablets on another student then reported to the SRO (False info and possession). Accepted crimestopper money."

Nice.

Workin the system.

"Forgot shop glasses" requires disciplinary action?

user315433

Probably suspecting it's a way to avoid the class. Guilty until proved innocent.

Jason C

"Dismissed from SD at 10:57 for vegetating." What

Oh that could make sense.

Jeez they check the kids with dogs?

user315433

Yes, for drugs.

Jason C

Public schools, how barbaric. Pssh.

bjb568

@zaq :o

Aaron Hall

02:56

You guys are having too much fun.

polices the fun

user315433

Well, it beats answering that question. Which I'll probably do anyway.

bjb568

@zaq This really is the case. It's simply expected that student cannot ware hats or hoods inside. Who knows why. But I now have the reflex, drilled into me since Kindergarten, to take off my hood when walking inside.

It's like if all of society was as nationalistic, discipline-driven, and devoid of any concept of human rights as the modern western classroom, we'd have fascism worldwide.

The school-to-prison pipeline puts it too gently. For many, school already is the prison.

Aaron Hall

For some kids, school is nothing more than educational day-care.

user315433

Too bad we don't have a Social Conventions SE, we could debate the hats-indoors thing there.

user315433

College students can and do wear them wherever.

Anonymous

03:02

throws an egg at the school.

user315433

In my class, I have a grad student whom I have never seen without his Red Sox hat.

user315433

Not sure if it's implanted.

Shog9

I take my hat off as a show of respect for the family when I'm standing by a grave listening to the eulogy. Otherwise...

user315433

You also take it off when entering the Tavern...

Shog9

Just 'cause y'all can't see hats yet...

Anonymous

03:06

:D

JamesENL

Personally, I both miss and do not miss high school

I miss uni more

I miss the large amounts of free time, but I don't miss the lack of money

Anonymous

They were both full of crap, but university had more good bits.

Aaron Hall

@zaq he takes his head off - completely different

2

Shog9

I skipped university and just spent the time drinking with the students. Still tons of bullshit, but at least there was beer to wash it down.

Aaron Hall

From my point of view, high school was an indignity. I was furious with my guidance counselors when I found, a month into 11th grade, that I could have been at the university instead.

Anonymous

03:10

Indignity is a good word.

Aaron Hall

I did my best to recruit others to join me for 12th grade, but apparently I'm a bad salesman - "hey stupid, why do you want to stay here any longer than you have to" doesn't work as a sales pitch.

But there were graduates from my HS that I was able to hang out with at the university - so I did.

user202362

I don't miss high school that much - never had too many friends. Partially because my personality probably, partially because I had to change schools because my dad's work. I literally split my high school years in 3 different countries.

user202362

Uni was both the best years and the most depressing years

Aaron Hall

Highs and lows. Good times.

user202362

uni was awesome - for the first 2 years, there was this bottom 30% knock out (failing rate), when you were doing more courses than everyone else in the year and the failing rate was that high, you kind of bring stress on to yourself

user202362

03:24

and prolonged stress has a very high chance of translating into depression

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user202362

I didn't care if I didn't have much in my bank account back in uni days

Aaron Hall

As long as you didn't leave with a ton of debt.

user202362

I think once I had about 37k student debt (2 degrees, 1 postgrad).

Aaron Hall

bummer, but you did better than some.

user202362

03:29

that was 10 years ago though, probably translates to 70k nowadays

Aaron Hall

nah, inflation's not that bad.

user315433

That teacher's spreadsheet was the first time I used pivot. Some people say that questions about typing formulas into Google Sheets don't belong on SO... but those formulas include SQL-like query language and a regex library (re2)...

Jason C

People that say that don't understand.

You can only get so far in life without being a Google Sheets / Excel ninja before you hit a wall.

user315433

... and start posting your spreadsheets full of sensitive information for everyone to see

Jason C

Lol

"Excuse me, Ms. Land? Ms. Promise Land?" => "Uh yeah who the hell are you?" => "I found your name in a high school disciplinary record that I saw in a chat room and did some Googling, because I had to meet you. That's cool, right?"

hichris123

03:41

@zaq Who needs this FERPA thing.

Jason C

Jason C, Stalking, 10 days OSS.

user315433

In my university days, instead of getting final grades on Blackboard we'd get them on a bulletin board: a list of names & grades pinned on it. I never had a problem with that.

Aaron Hall

They only did that with ID numbers when I started.

user315433

And the ID numbers were SSN back in the days...

user202362

One of my worst times was back in the 2nd year of uni. Commerce/business students had to do Account, economics, economatrix and one elective. (4 in total) E.E. students had to do digital system, analog, one computer science subject, maths, physics. (5 in total) B.E. & B.Com students had to do all the subjects E.E. students had to do plus economics (6 in total).

user202362

03:46

I think I did all the subjects E.E. students had to do, plus economics AND economatrix (7 in total) and I was only one in the year who did that. But that year was also when I first got my own (old and unreliable) car. I got into 3 accidents (2 of which were my fault), the car had to be taken into a garage a couple of times because it's old and unreliable and broken down on road.

user202362

Worse thing was that one of my close friends called me before my last exam and told me that she swallowed too many sleeping pills the night before!! She didn't die because of it ...

Jason C

There's a lot going on in that story.

Also, wow, I forgot Blackboard existed.

bjb568

@zaq These-a-days at my university the grades are first posted in BB but on an assignment-by-assignment basis so as to minimize any potential for having a clue of how well you're doing, then magically the final grades appear in some new EMS thing.

Literally the only thing to do in the couple week window before knowing for the first time your grade is to pray everyone else is stupider than you and the prof added a good curve.

user315433

Hm. Maybe your professor hasn't discovered that Blackboard has calculated columns, with weights by categories, dropping N lowest (or highest!) grades, etc. Set them up once, and students never ask "what's my current grade in the class".

bjb568

In that respect, I like high school better.

@zaq But it's every class. BB grades are just seen as a convinience so that you can see assignment grades before they get passed back.

user315433

03:52

Which they are. But even more of a convenience when calculated things are also done.

user315433

Then again, I might be in the minority of those who use calculated columns.

bjb568

None of my classes have transparent grading criteria. There's hand-waving in the syllabus and a rigid system that would make half the class fail, then you just hope for curving.

Jason C

At least all your classes use bb. When we were doing it the company was only a couple years old and the product was sort of hacky. Only the more ... forward-thinking professors were using it.

bjb568

I guess.

Night!

Jason C

Yeah but it was a pain having like 6 completely different grade tracking systems for each of your classes.

Later

user202362

03:55

I like 30% - 50% failing rate in classes, they are truly awesome

user202362

unlike high school

user315433

What, simply writing "To: SHOG" wasn't enough information?

user202362

looks like SH06!

user202362

but why are you giving out phone number and address again

user202362

04:11

are you trying to set up a trap and lure some kind of prey in?

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user315433

> we haven't had large enough blocks of time to hold elections, which has resulted in a bit of backlog in elections. Yours will be scheduled either late January or early February. meta.quant.stackexchange.com/q/1512

user315433

Looks like we're in for a full month+ of elections. Exciting!

tchrist

05:24

@zaq Folks are pretty tuckered out from Nov 8th.

user202362

user315433

What is the .xyz TLD for? I see it used by possibly-serious people, but to me it looks like a lazy faceless default, like picking a username by walking on keyboard.

user315433

Not a favorable impression, I mean.

user315433

The latest example: codingkids.xyz

user202362

abc.xyz is taken, that probably explains why

user315433

05:41

The spamminess of their Twitter twitter.com/codingkidstx doesn't help.

Shog9

> .XYZ is now one of the first new domains to receive MIIT accreditation!

Cannot find any particular purpose, apart from "it's not .com"

user202362

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user202362

website: abc.xyz

user315433

> .xyz is a bold, fresh choice for users who crave creativity and versatility in a domain name. It’s short and memorable without the limitations of a label or language barrier – so you can focus on connecting with your audience anywhere in the world.

Andy

I want my last name .com, but someone has been squatting it for the past 10 years and has managed to put a phpinfo() up.

shakes fist at random person with the same last name

user202362

05:50

I owned the domain name telkitty.com for nearly 10 years before it got stolen by sys admin :/

user202362

also 3 letter appendix lacks imagination

user202362

might as well have .123

user315433

Get Andy.name instead

user315433

A colleague of mine uses lastname.org for himself and family members. A family is a noncommercial organization, so to speak...

user202362

telkitty.😄

user202362

05:56

telkitty.Ѡ

Andy

@zaq Someone already has that too. Interestingly, whois on .names don't seem to return nearly as much information

user202362

One of the worst parts of humanity is that people are not keen to acknowledge your talent, but never hesitate to steal your ideas

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