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12:01 AM
Hey guys - loving #first7jobs! Can we get these trending too? #NameofFirstPet #HighSchoolMascot #MothersMaidenName #YourZipCode #Last4ofSSN
CRANKING Ace of Base on the road today. Been too long. https://t.co/fdKXtLIZFX
Hey @Nick_Craver I'm hearing that serverless is all the rage. Let's discuss porting Stack to it on Monday.
Yessss, been too long.
Hey, look at the pages of content we are generating for this room.
12:33 AM
:5162151 notspam
12:49 AM
A user with 1 rep (and no posts) got nominated for a pro-tem mod on Monero... the nomination has +5 score.
^ a thing I made today, basically a First Answers queue for multiple sites at once.
Fetch 10 newest answers from several sites (100 from SO), show only those from users with rep = 1. The "flag" link flags as NAA using the API.
At least I hope it flags as NAA, rather than spam or abusive...
1:06 AM
1:22 AM
Wikipedia article about Joel states his year of birth, but not date. So the age is "50-51". This doesn't look optimal... did anyone around here or on Twitter ever mentioned his birthday?
The article talks at length about string concatenation...
No mentions of his birthday, unless we count the site howold.co/joel-spolsky which declares it to be January 1. Yeah, right...
@redredwine wat
The article is like [relevant intro] [useless coining terms, hope the reader is done by now] [boring personal history] [openly gay] [oooh, hey, did you know this thing about string concatenation?]
1:37 AM
Anyway, I went there trying to guess how close Joel is to retirement (as a CEO, he already retired as a blogger). The industry standard for mandatory CEO retirement seems to be 65, though this probably doesn't apply to founders.
@redredwine When the date is unknown, January 1 is about the worst guess one could make. Aim for the midpoint of the interval (July 1 or so), not an endpoint.
1:54 AM
The Wikipedia category Living people has 780,243 pages. Counting two who are both dead and alive...
> Please add articles to this category by using {{BLP living dead}}.
2:25 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Best earphones under 45 dollars by David Willcatt on sound.stackexchange.com
2:59 AM
Anyone around? Looking at this: gaming.stackexchange.com/a/… looks an awful lot like spam, especially if you read the comments
What do you guys think?
@JamesENL umm, somehow the URL is malformed
My bad
Look at the answer
A: Do I need to use Incense to find Pokemon?

Golden GamingHow to find Pokémon Pokémon Go somewhat mimics the traditional games, so you are more likely to find Pokémon in areas such as parks and you’ll be more likely to find water Pokémon when you’re near, well, water. It’s not limited to those areas though, and you can find Pokémon no matter where you a...

@JamesENL I flagged as spam
I flagged it too
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Is there any market for data science consulting by dmanuge on datascience.stackexchange.com
3:11 AM
If that's the case, I'll smokeyit
The profile does look very spammy
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Do I need to use Incense to find Pokemon? by Golden Gaming on gaming.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How can I reset the adaptive transmission on my Pontiac G6? by user21440 on mechanics.stackexchange.com
3:55 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: progress. Moreover, the additional weight-reduction plan by llmanvaxer on askubuntu.com (@kos)
sd 3k
1 hour later…
5:03 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: Do I need to use Incense to find Pokemon? by Golden Gaming on gaming.stackexchange.com
5:13 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Traveling to Colombia - cash or card? by dennis on travel.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title: kaintek.com/luxia-no-7/ by glasdlersn on security.stackexchange.com
6:01 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: What makes custom essay writing service different? by ronrogers on sustainability.stackexchange.com
6:12 AM
sd k - k k k
@James so you caught lots of Pokemons?
I have caught some Pokémons.... when they aren't vanishing into electrons
@JamesENL heh, so weird.... but it's only one! ;)
I know
Cheers for the Upvotes
I'm assuming it was you guys & gals
6:33 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Phen24 Reviews: Coupon, Ingredients, Side Effects by Bord1932 on drupal.stackexchange.com
@ShadowWizard someone's proposed an edit removing all the funny things I wrote :( Is rejecting an edit for destroying the fun in a post allowed?
I'm not going to review it, but I'm also not going to get into an edit war if it does get approved
I hope it doesn't
@JamesENL yeah, to a limit. Fun is allowed, as long as it's not just noise.
Link to the edit?
No, comment that was made
by a decently high rep user
I meant can you please give a link so I can see for myself? ;)
@JamesENL heh, reject! ;)
> You need at least 2k reputation to review suggested edits.
6:51 AM
I don't have 2k on Arquade :(
You can't see the changes?
@JamesENL you can review edits on your own posts though, with a binding vote
@JamesENL I can see, just not review (i.e. can't approve or reject)
Wasn't sure
Someone agrees it would seem, there's already 1 reject vote saying 'causes harm'
@JamesENL yep, same user who posted the comment. He left a custom message.
You can see that?
Or does it get commented on automatically?
@JamesENL in the link you gave me... ;)
No, the comment is not automatic.
6:56 AM
Rejected! :D
@James wins ;)
But user with 2k can still edit, so don't build your hopes too high that your question is safe....
anyway hope you'll get a decent answer. :)
6:58 AM
Still, if someone does edit it, I'm sure it'll get rolled back
@ShadowWizard That I'm less hopeful on. I suspect it's just a random bug somewhere
@JamesENL not sure, it's not really worth edit war as you said yourself :)
@JamesENL yeah, maybe connection burp causing the local data to not be sent properly to the server
Anyway, we need to greet a visitor from the future!
Q: User with Negative Age in network profile

ShagunI noticed a network profile of a user with the age shown as -972: I dug further to see if there are more such cases but my analysis shows that this is a lone case, though there are a lot of users who have not added their age to their profile. I believe it is a bug in the system that allows...

7:13 AM
@JamesENL upvoted (it's an interesting question too, although I don't play). Hopefully it gets into HNQ~
I have two SE goals pretty much all the time: have something starred here, and get something to HNQ.
@JamesENL one goal achieved. No need to thank me. :D
Anyway, without answers, it can't become HNQ
Gah, I forgot about that
@Portal yes you did!
7:18 AM
yes I did!
7:33 AM
7:44 AM
Mittens! Kitten Mittens!
I only just discovered Qwrpline. Holy hell it's funny
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer, blacklisted user: VZW Galaxy S5 can't use Wi-Fi (DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NO_INTERNET) by Rajat K Jain on android.stackexchange.com (@Portal)
8:14 AM
@JamesENL listening now. It's awesome :D
sd 3k
@Bart Bloody funny stuff
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: Make a linux to run on ARM architecture by Nikolay on unix.stackexchange.com
@ShadowWizard is the date format different for Russian datetimes?
@JNat cross network spammer, can you please nuke? stackexchange.com/users/8289485/rajat-k-jain
[ SmokeDetector ] Shortened URL in body: The Current Status of the ABC Conjecture Proof by Elo on mathoverflow.net
8:18 AM
@Quill might be, good call. Worth adding a comment on the question.
@ShadowWizard gone
the only thing more fun than localisation bugs are localization bugs
JNat more like JRekt
@JNat whoa, that was fast. Thanks! :D
8:21 AM
@Quill you mean fixing those bugs... lol. Poor devs. :D
@Quill same format for SE.... :/
@ShadowWizard Couldn't you have tried for some other site than one that contains bloody Russian?
No offense to Russian, BTW. It's nouns sound cool
@TIPS I did already, but @Quill raised a valid point that maybe the validation there is different
@TIPS He did already in another screenshot
@ShadowWizard @Quill? Valid point?
@TIPS yeah, surprising, right? ;)
8:26 AM
9 mins ago, by Quill
@ShadowWizard is the date format different for Russian datetimes?
That's not valid at all. It's a question
A valid point looks like "this is a valid point".
I know, right? I don't make valid points
Valid points hate you too.
@ShadowWizard SOMEONE ELSE HATES FUN TOO! gaming.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/199755
8:31 AM
@JamesENL heh, well, at least he left some fun there, probably missed it. :/
@TIPS find the valid points here! :P
@JamesENL ┬─┬ ノ( ^_^ノ)
@ShadowWizard Row 21, dot 32.
@ShadowWizard Row 12, dot 2.
When I try to send a thing on my server:
The server implodes.
      throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event

Error: write after end
    at ServerResponse.OutgoingMessage.write (_http_outgoing.js:426:15)
    at /home/bjb568/Aquaforces/server.js:63:24
    at next (native)
    at callNext (/home/bjb568/Aquaforces/node_modules/yield-yield/index.js:54:19)
    at yieldCallback (/home/bjb568/Aquaforces/node_modules/yield-yield/index.js:145:13)
    at /home/bjb568/Aquaforces/essentials.js:50:2
    at next (native)
    at callNext (/home/bjb568/Aquaforces/node_modules/yield-yield/index.js:54:19)
Caused by:
So it does implode.
8:36 AM
If I console.log(res):
ServerResponse {
  domain: null,
  _events: { finish: [Function: resOnFinish] },
  _eventsCount: 1,
  _maxListeners: undefined,
  output: [],
  outputEncodings: [],
  outputCallbacks: [],
  outputSize: 0,
  writable: true,
  _last: false,
  chunkedEncoding: true,
  shouldKeepAlive: true,
  useChunkedEncodingByDefault: true,
  sendDate: true,
  _removedHeader: {},
  _contentLength: null,
  _hasBody: true,
  _trailer: '',
  finished: true,
  _headerSent: false,
  socket: null,
  connection: null,
> 200 Moved Permanently
PSA: @Portal's a foreteller.
it says you're trying to write to a closed connection
It says writable: true in res.
And I tried to try-catch the res.write, but it's an asynchronous error so it still breaks.
When catching an exception throws another exception: Ex-ception
8:41 AM
Q: Time to replace The Joel Test?

PhilJob posting in StackOverflow (although I have not seen it in recently postings) have the Joel Test grade attached to them. It is 12-software development practices a company should be using. The number of practices used give candidates an idea of the quality of a company's development environment....

Maybe we should move to Europe
9:26 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Cisco Ccna online certification training by andreamarily on serverfault.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How to recover BKF files by Anthony Dominic on superuser.com
9:52 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer: How to watch movies from the Showbox app on a computer by Becki Muller on android.stackexchange.com (@Portal)
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: anything into Geniux Brain by aydemgouty on drupal.stackexchange.com
10:24 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link following arrow in body: Strong ladies with colossal biceps by amybruce on movies.stackexchange.com
10:40 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: That Means That A Remarkable Result by rbaraeson on drupal.stackexchange.com
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11:52 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How come I am being detected behind VPN? by Mohammed Imran on superuser.com
@JamesENL yeah, come over here. Besides terrorist attacks, increasing right-wing politics and a declining economy, life here is great.
12:07 PM
Antarctica seems nice
@Bart At least we have healthcare still :/
@Quill isn't it occupied by penguins?
@ShadowWizard And Barts
@Bart Well, life around the world is shitty in some way.
There is no good living unless you're especially good at it.
@Magisch yup, my wallet feels that one every month
@Bart In a positive way
12:12 PM
Everywhere's objectively the worst place and the best place to live
@TIPS nah, @Bart doesn't rule. Just observes. ;)
@Magisch when I ultimately need it, sure. But otherwise I'd love the extra 450 Euros to remain in my wallet. :p
@Bart You'd love it less when a doctor bills you <20k for a MRI scan
Or if you call 911 and they take you to the hospital for checkup and suddenly you sit on a 50k bill
12:14 PM
@Magisch heh, here in Israel if your house burns, you pay the bill for the fire fighters. (and the insurance won't return it)
I never had anything serious come up yet, but I'd sure as hell not take that chance. It would mean one serious injury and you spend the rest of your life paying it off
I feel like an MRI machine wouldn't cost 20k
My SO spent 2 weeks in hospital a while ago for complications with an appendix surgery ... in the US that stay could have easily cost her 150k or more
@ShadowWizard They're making sure your house doesn't get on fire
12:17 PM
@Quill when we tried to acquire a smaller version at a previous job, we were looking at 500k minimum, and those weren't even the size of hospital MRI machines.
@TIPS lol, I wish! They arrive only after it's burnt
> as cheap as $150,000 or as expensive as $1.2 million
@ShadowWizard I like it more crispy too
@Quill machine only I guess?
@Quill the machine itself, not a single scan
12:18 PM
I just don't think people should have to worry about going bankrupt of healthcare
@Quill As cheap as the cost for an R8?
As cheap as the cost for the new iPhone
I don't think healthcare is a sector thats fair game for profit-seeking companies
Its a captive market, and there is no real competition
Healthcare in what sense? To the consumers you mean?
@Magisch Drug companies, however
12:20 PM
In a broad sense
Our govt applies harsh limits on what drug makers and hospitals can charge
thats how it needs to be
@TIPS like this one?
Teva Pharmaceutical Industries Ltd. (Hebrew: טבע תעשיות פרמצבטיות בע"מ‎‎) is an Israeli multinational pharmaceutical company headquartered in Petah Tikva, Israel. It specializes primarily in generic drugs, but other business interests include active pharmaceutical ingredients and to a lesser extent proprietary pharmaceuticals. It is the largest generic drug manufacturer in the world and one of the 15 largest pharmaceutical companies worldwide. Teva's facilities are located in Israel, North America, Europe, and South America. Teva is a member of both the New York Stock Exchange the Tel Aviv Stock...
Those are huge indeed
Well, that certainly looks like 2016 Europe.
Its hard enough to get people to go to the doctor when they need it here, its even harder in a country where its super expensive, too.
1:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: when makers decay to uncover estimations by Lith1946 on workplace.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, blacklisted user: Difference between 'who' and 'whom' in the below sentence by gomri on english.stackexchange.com
1:32 PM
they don't onebox :'(
1:42 PM
[pagetitle](url) would still work, including in the starboard....
> we only hire more experienced developers
Not entirely true anymore, since they had those two apprenticeships (though that could be a one-time thing).
do a majority of people learn the entirety of their skills at work?
Yes, but it should be at some other place, probably less glorious one than SO.
2:01 PM
the only things I learn at work are parts of the stack that aren't parts of my personal stack
Probably not all people as lucky as you
how so?
I learned 99% of my IT knowledge from work and SO
2:18 PM
@Magisch for those of us at my age, SO was not an option for learning IT
@RoryAlsop You also know yet substantially more then me, and make probably about 30x as much
2:41 PM
@RoryAlsop you don't learn new things any more? :'(
@Telkitty loads of new things every day, but I probably become equally less current with modern IT.
@Magisch in my area of expertise, maybe...
Q: is tealplum a good name for a non-governmental organisation

Fares El Williamsis tealplum a pleasant to hear & remindful name for an animal/human care organization ? How does it sound to you ? Do you have some good idea for me ? I'm looking for a good name for my new car organisation and i want it to be clear and remindful also as pretty.

heh heh heh
3:24 PM
Cars? Plums? No veo la relación.
A: How come a rigid body has 6 degrees of freedoms (DOFs) ? Isn't velocity a DOF?

user126711 i want complete answers for all qutions step by step dint copy internet

I don't usually see mod candidates using a blog to supplement their (necessarily brief) nomination. Interesting.
4:25 PM
Our new office hours system tells me to enter instructions for entering...
Wonder if the "hint" value is actually shown to others if I leave the box empty (similar to SE displays some default strings in profiles).
4:54 PM
Is the author from this comment upset/angry about my answer?
Maybe a little bit. I'd remove "You should be thankful" bit, lest it be understood as a recommendation to leave thank-you comments on answers.
Ok, I'm rewording a bit anyway, I'll remove that part
5:33 PM
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Q: Down-vote reputation penalty is too big

Olie AyreOver my time using many of the Stack forums, I have of course asked questions that others thought weren't adequate. I could hardly see why and frankly, It felt somewhat unfair as I could spot many far worse questions than mine which were getting lots of up-votes. This conundrum has meant that I ...

"I get a lot of downvotes. Here's how this can be improved:"
Does subtracting rep with a downvote even serve a purpose? I guess it generates notifications... But I doubt those lead to improvements often. It's just one more thing to shrug off.
The possibility of someone losing privileges due to downvotes is hypothetical, outside of serial voting by a gang - which we probably don't want to enable.
I think Documentation got it right by not having rep change attached to downvotes.
5:59 PM
I'm with ya
6:27 PM
Then again, participation in SE is a good workout for shrugging muscles anyway.
A: Should we participate in the Stack Exchange Winter Bash?

GillesAt the time I write this, the leading option in the poll is SHRUG. If SHRUG wins, then instead of hats, CSTheory should get epaulettes.

6:49 PM
A: Analogue of "orphan" for someone who's lost their siblings

MoiraRhunOne of my friends is a bereaved sibling. I have suggested we coin the term "sidow" for her - like a widow, but for siblings.

Like her life wasn't hard enough already...
7:02 PM
hichris123 got Popular Question badge for How do weather models work?, a question answered by Jon Ericson...
(Considers flagging as Too Broad...)
8:08 PM
WordPress got 5 mod nominations for 2 positions, one nomination arriving in the 11th hour... On a graduated site, it's kind of hard to vote for someone under 3K, despite them having a strong record otherwise. Having never closed/reopened things in a normal way, and then given power to do so on your own...
8:30 PM
So I wanted to edit some posts to farm rep for voting, but this proves to be difficult. I need a new dictionary for this one...
A: "bucking for" .. like Klinger

R.L SuggsIts slang put you brought up prision bucking for solitary, in prision bucking means the oppisite of trying to obtaian something. For example im bucking work call,or if some is gonna jack or take something from you.Im bucking the jack..if someone is called out to fight and doesnt he bucked the cal...

Perhaps @tchrist will know what ^ is saying, or if it should be left as is for authenticity. (The post is scored +3 currently)
9:15 PM
@redredwine a Tavern special
Meet Adam Francoer, the SO Corporate Attorney. He obviously knew the right answer to all interview questions.
Not to forget life, universe, and everything.
I hope Adam won't sue me for misspelling his last name (Francoeur).
He probably has more Stack Overflow rep than I do
? As far as I can tell, he has no account on any site.
9:24 PM
I would hope that any attorney worth his salt would know better than to use his real name on The Internet
Also, I would hope to some day find an attorney willing to be paid in salt.
Yeah, surely, it should be spelled Francœur
Sure, his username could be Œur42 or whatever. But there is no link to his SE profile on the company page, which I assume means no profile.
it says he's good in immigration law. is SE looking at becoming an immigration service?
They do employ people overseas, and some are non-citizens working in the U.S. (Gabe for example).
A: iOS9: configure spotlight news suggestions

NatronAmazing that you can't configure the news sources. It's funny ever since I got my iPhone 6s, all I see are news stories about how bad Donald Trump would be for the country.

9:31 PM
iPhones are ruining this country.
You can actually configure the news sources, but it takes a drag-to-top on the side page to refresh them
@redredwine Flagged—not an answer.
Stack Exchange finally has in-house counsel.
I hope he'll be as twitter-funny as VideoGameAttorney
the candidates are so stellar they broke the CSS!
This is worth preserving for posterity.
9:42 PM
Love finding stuff by looking at src for other projects (now OpServer). Latest find: UnconstrainedMelody! Thanks @jonskeet and @Nick_Craver
A Nick Craver and Jon Skeet combo will be unstoppable
It's not something specific to the candidates, it's just that ELU has a fancy border for usercards (example: english.stackexchange.com/q/341793) and the box model doesn't account for that.
Does any other site have such a border? never saw it before. It's around the question title, too.
> @jc4p the main lesson here (I think) is "don't take a job that pays below market but gives good stock options, you can't afford them." -- kasmanian devil at 2:30 PM - 8 Aug 2016
Stock options also don't help much until there is stock to be bought or sold...
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Can "childs" ever be the plural of "child"? by hooooo on english.stackexchange.com
9:54 PM
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11:12 PM
🚨 NEW HACKER MOVIE 🚨 Austin Swift stars as an IT guy that goes rogue against his employer - film named "I.T." https://www.yahoo.com/movies/t-trailer-165500796.html?format=embed
@ThePickleTickler ordinary, non employee, users do not have any access to the site code regardless of their reputation. (Yes, even Jon Skeet.) — Shadow Wizard 33 mins ago
Thanks to open source, we can all have an effect on SO's codebase :p

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