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user315433

6:18 PM

77,771 questions on Meta currently.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: help with matlab code by olivier on math.stackexchange.com …

bjb568

@200_success Makes no sense. This is an ML problem.

200_success

What's "ML"?

Machine learning?

You don't need machine learning. As the data show, some simple heuristics can help detect a lot of problematic posts.

However, one of the answers suggests that we can use machine learning to help discover those heuristics.

user315433

6:49 PM

Looks like @animuson is on Meta-deletion duty now.

user315433

And I recall he has one of mouse buttons tied to "delete", so ... I have to be really fast to farm flags ahead of him.

rene

I seem to have managed leave a close vote and a comment on the latest question that was meant for SO

user315433

He might have gone out for a donut...

rene

7:04 PM

it is a pity that those questions hardly ever make it into the review queue. I could have worked on my stats there...

user315433

CVR has 15 minute delay, not likely to happen unless nobody's around

rene

Yeah

@animuson is back ...

user315433

> Is it normal to eat spoonfuls of sriracha dozens of times a day? -- Tim Post at 12:10 PM - 20 Apr 2016 via Twitter

PhMgBr

WTH is sriracha

Also I think we found out Tim's big seekrit

user315433

Sriracha sauce

Sriracha (Thai: ศรีราชา, [sǐː rāː.t͡ɕʰāː]) is a type of hot sauce or chili sauce made from a paste of chili peppers, distilled vinegar, garlic, sugar, and salt. It is named after the coastal city of Si Racha, in Chonburi Province of eastern Thailand, where it may have been first produced for dishes served at local seafood restaurants. == Use == In Thailand, sriracha is frequently used as a dipping sauce, particularly for seafood. In Vietnamese cuisine, sriracha appears as a condiment for phở, fried noodles, a topping for spring rolls (chả giò), and in sauces. Sriracha is also eaten in soup, on...

rene

7:15 PM

is there a difference between a hot sauce and a chili sauce?

KutuluMike

ugh.

what kind of idiot puts up a "news" site where none of the "news" posts had dates on them?

PhMgBr

@KutuluMike Good kind of idiot

KutuluMike

and then routinely includes links to really old articles at the bottom of all the recent ones?

PhMgBr

Fresh and pure

rene

A news site is always about stuff happened in the past. It should be called Old site in the first place.

PhMgBr

7:18 PM

*Oldz site

user315433

7:29 PM

@rene It seems they are near synonyms, without other specifications, "hot sauce" can be assumed to have chili peppers. But one can talk about hot horseradish sauce, etc.

rene

Ah, yeah radish can deliver hotness as well

PhMgBr

Did Marshmallow just react to give Meta?

bjb568

@200_success Using ML is like doing science with statistics. Not using ML is like doing pseudoscience. ML is the best way to do this, by definition.

It's an optimization problem and ML is the solution.

KutuluMike

regex is the solution!

tchrist

@KutuluMike Somebody rang?

KutuluMike

7:43 PM

yes. can you teach a machine to write regexes?

perhaps using jQuery?

I think it would solve all of SO

rene

for HTML parsing ?

PhMgBr

TCh is the machine

user315433

A regex that matches programming questions, and does not match legitimate meta questions.

user315433

> Programmers, lend me your opinions! Q: Why do you like seeing salary ranges on job ads? -- JSONPCares at 12:50 PM - 20 Apr 2016 via Twitter

user315433

I don't like that they are always in green in SO ads. Should have a color scale from red to green.

200_success

7:56 PM

@bjb568 We're in agreement on that. But starting the conversation with "Makes no sense" was a bit harsh.

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A: What would Clippy say?

Machine Learning There's way too many cases to consider here, we should apply Machine Learning to this to make a machine learn what makes a question likely to be a bad question. I have recently studied Machine Learning, and to me this sounds like a multi-class classification problem, to which i...

I had considered piping everything to SpamAssassin and training it. — 200_success ♦ Mar 30 at 15:07

Alexis King

@200_success bjb seems to, unfortunately, frequently lack much regard for people’s feelings.

PhMgBr

@200_success The only way to argue with a kitten is to be harsher than him.

200_success

It's not the feelings that's a problem. It's miscommunicating an objection.

PhMgBr

CC @Alexis

user315433

He has much regard for tuna and JavaScript, on the other hand.

user315433

7:59 PM

I'm 90% sure that tuna.js is a thing by now.

Alexis King

@200_success Perhaps. But the feelings matter, too.

200_success

That's OK. I'm a moderator. I've learned to bury my feelings.

Alexis King

@Meta Yes, and it has a cat in its readme. npmjs.com/package/tunajs

Shog9

@bjb568 Using ML to categorize data is a reasonable choice. Using ML to predict the future is... Worth a try, but you're still playing clairvoyant not scientist.

user315433

Isn't this a categorization problem? Category A: questions asking for code. Category B: questions with broken code. Category C: all other questions.

200_success

8:02 PM

If you're thinking of running ML in real time, I don't think that would work well. What's the system going to say? "Our algorithm thinks that your post sucks 72.6%. Are you sure you want to post this question?"

Shog9

@Meta category B is kind of a bitch though

the code/no-code check I should totally be able to do

for B, we're pretty much stuck checking for key phrases and trying to warn folks

Alexis King

The obvious solution is to automatically compile and run all code submitted in CR questions to see if it works.

200_success

We don't require complete compilable code; excerpts are acceptable. On the other hand, code that compiles but is obviously wrong is off-topic. So that's not a good indicator.

Shog9

"How can I make this infinite loop more elegant?"

Alexis King

@200_success I’m joking. That would be a terrible idea. :)

Even better solution: do static analysis on all programs to determine if they will halt!

bjb568

8:14 PM

@200_success Well, with that suck level, maybe just hellban.

hichris123

I feel like @rene needs a bounty for meta.stackexchange.com/a/278564/237685

bjb568

@Shog9 Meh, with sufficiently fancy ML, anything possible is possible. The human brain is just fancy ML.

hichris123

what

rene

@hichris123 :p

hichris123

ML... Machine Learning... since when have we become machines?

Maybe @bjb568 is just a bot. Scary thought.

Alexis King

8:17 PM

I think @bjb is just referring to this other ML.

bjb568

We are all bots.

hichris123

@rene When 2 days pass, you might see rep going your way. :P

bjb568

@AlexisKing ooh, I'll be sure to write my meta fiction in ML.

rene

I think my auto comment works

user315433

@hichris123 WTH are you doing, asking a non-programming question on Meta?

hichris123

8:27 PM

lol

17 hours ago, by hichris123

Loading 'all actions' for some profiles seems to take forever.

I finally got around to posting it.

user315433

You broke a streak

rene

@hichris123 What is bad about grabbing a cookie? Why do you bother us with your diet?

Doorknob

Another name change, @Meta?

hichris123

At least it's not a muffin...

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Q: Cache (or otherwise speed up) /admin/users

When I load /admin/users on SO, I generally get a muffin or something while waiting: Those first two XHR requests (to load the all-time users-with-flagged-posts list and the 30 day one, respectively) take a combined 15-ish seconds, dwarfing all the other requests. Because of how the page is or...

I dunno... I wouldn't want to deprive you of your daily muffin. — Adam Lear ♦ Apr 6 at 23:16

@Meta Is that bad? :P

PhMgBr

OK now the new banner is pretty annoying. Can I have a button to remove it, pretty please?

It's just that I'm not used to what didn't used to be there be there.

user315433

8:38 PM

@PhMgBr #system-message {display: none;}

PhMgBr

Oh, system message? ʕ ⊃･ ◡ ･ ʔ⊃︵┻━┻

hichris123

10:34 PM

In today's edition of job titles...

> NETWORK/SYS ADMIN ENGINEER (CISCO MANDATORY, OPENSTACK A PLUS)

Why are ALL CAPS job titles even allowed?

At the very least it should raise an automatic "Low Quality Job Listing" flag. :P

hichris123

In other news, mSO seems quite bright now with the shades of green. Maybe I'll finally make a grey mSO userscript.

rene

I'm out for some sleep ...

hichris123

Even a flower needs sleep.

user315433

10:50 PM

@hichris123 I sense a degree of boredom.

user315433

says a guy who just made it to Level 30 of UniKong

hichris123

11:06 PM

@Meta No, unfortunately most of these show up on the SO sidebar ad. Great way to highlight good job listings...

user315433

#hireme {display:none; }

hichris123

Eh, I like poking fun at the absurd titles. :P

user315433

11:25 PM

It's been one year since April 2015 election... a year without Bill as a mod (although he stayed for a bit longer).

hichris123

3

A: New shade of green for answers/accepted answers?

For a while the product team has known that we needed to consolidate our UI to make sure we were providing a more consistent UI and UX experience. Yet it was always more of a "nice-to-have" than a must-have. Over the last few months we've started extending the Stack Overflow UI in new (and exciti...

lol aren't the greys back to what they were?

I mean for required tags.

Yep, both required tags and non-required tags are back to the same color.

All this for naught...

user315433

16 color palette ftw

hichris123

Also, I don't seem to understand how reducing the # of colors makes the CSS any smaller. Wouldn't you need the same number of characters for any RGB color code?

(although I guess with gzip it would be smaller)

Eeek colleges have figured out how to use emoji in email titles...

user315433

@hichris123 .you .can .put .more .in {same CSS rule}

hichris123

oh, that makes sense. But that only saves at most a few characters each time... must've been a lot of fragmentation.

bjb568

11:41 PM

TIL it's common for the tax rate on a married couple in the US to be significantly higher than individuals. WTH? The IMF apparently scolded the US and a few other countries for doing this.

user315433

11:57 PM

Would you like to keep the darker background then? Or revert it to the previous color? — Hynes ♦ Apr 6 at 20:56

user315433

How often does a designer ask a specific user how they prefer Stack Overflow to be styled? You have influence.

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