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drachenstern

1:02 AM

ok Tim I should just resign on my next turn :S

Moshe

@Josh - I might need your help here.

i can only run so many requests at once. :P

Josh

threads!

Moshe

@Josh - How so?

Josh

or, is it a system limitation you're running into?

Moshe

I dunno

Well, my friends MSN is slower.

Tim Stone

1:04 AM

@drachenstern Naw :P

Moshe

It's a start.

Josh

@Moshe I've only ever done it in C/C++, not Objective C

Moshe

@Josh Well, do you haz teh codez in C?

:D

Josh

but in C you call fork(). Then if that returns a PID, you're in the parent

(right guys?)

so, IE:

drachenstern

@Josh sorta not really

Moshe

1:05 AM

I could call that. What datatype is that?

drachenstern

anybody can fork

Moshe

Obj-C is C

drachenstern

There is a way to get the PID of the parent tho

Josh

if(fork()) {
  // the parent runs this
} else {
  // the new child thread starts here
}

@drachenstern what I mean is, if fork() returns a positive INT it's the parent?

or, do I have that part backwards?

drachenstern

oh, guess so

I was rereading wikipedia, been a while since I called fork in C

I had it backwards

Josh

1:08 AM

reads man fork

@Moshe, do the same :-)

drachenstern

that's too easy, you can't just go around expecting veteran developers to RTFM

what're you thinking man?

Josh

@drachenstern yeah, 0 is returned to the child

@drachenstern veteran developers? I was talking to @Moshe!

Moshe

@Josh will look at it.

Josh

KIDDING @Moshe!!

drachenstern

ZING!

Moshe

1:09 AM

@Josh Heh, no jokes. I'm not a veteran, but an enthusiast at this point.

Josh

We're talking C, I'm hardly a veteran either. I taught it, but that was over 10 years ago, LOL

drachenstern

damn you debug code, begone from my checkin

Josh

@drachenstern funny, I just checked in debug code :-)

drachenstern

and with that checkin and successful code run on my server, I'm out of the office for the night. be home and online later

Moshe

@drachenstern Gnite.

Josh

1:13 AM

@drachenstern later!

Rebecca Chernoff

just scored 139 points in 1 move in WwF \o/

2

not that I'm bragging of course...

Moshe

@Josh What system settings would limit my outbound connections?

George Marian

Things Real People Don't Say About Advertising

Josh

@Moshe ummmm

@RebeccaChernoff What is this WwF?

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff Oh, whew. I was worried that was in my game.

Rebecca Chernoff

1:18 AM

@Josh What an iOS game calls Scrabble when it can't actually call it Scrabble.

@TimStone (;

Josh

ahhhh

Tim Stone

Though you had a good move there too, heheh :)

Josh

Because everyone here's playing that, I was starting to feel left out ;-)

George Marian

@Josh heh

Josh

@Moshe sorry sec, need to finish commits, just broke a site my client is using

Moshe

1:19 AM

@Josh k

Josh

@GeorgeMarian I don't anymore. I suck at scrabble :-)

(waits for everyone to beg to play him ;-)

Moshe

@Josh I was playing it until we started having these issues here.

drachenstern

instagr.am/p/_8Kg

WTF, no OB on instagram? Hmmm ... That's what getting your ads kicked in four letters looks like

Rebecca Chernoff

Oh good. Saves me the trouble of posting it. (;

Josh

HAHA, I just realized the part of the code I'm working on has a link to the transcript from this very room in the comments! XD

Rebecca Chernoff

1:23 AM

o:

Josh

// The above horrid mess is to compensate for the fact that the top position of
// the photo, stored in the database, is really the top position of the container,
// which meansgt the photo is down from there an amount equal to the height of the
// controls. So I need to use the above to correct this. For more info, see:
// http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/208020#208020

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Tim Stone

@drachenstern Ouch :P

Josh

oh, nvm, it was The Roach Motel

drachenstern

And I had a reasonable (but disappearing) lead on her ...

Rebecca Chernoff

@drachenstern sorry q:

drachenstern

1:24 AM

Lol, I bet

Now to go salvage something ...

Josh

@Moshe while I fix this bug, research sysctl

Moshe

ok

Rebecca Chernoff

@drachenstern, next time you post a shot of the game, include your letters (:

Josh

linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/…

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff I don't think you need any more help ;)

drachenstern

1:26 AM

Lmao, I'll ... Uh ... Do that ... Thankfully I have no disposal unit!!

Rebecca Chernoff

details schmetails

@drachenstern oy.

drachenstern

Well there are only 50 points difference ATM

Oy what? I'm on safari mobile

Rebecca Chernoff

That was for your disposal comment.

drachenstern

Kk

Not living it down u know that right? :p

It was legitimately funny at the time

Josh

@drachenstern I gave you one of my precious stars for that disposal comment :-)

drachenstern

1:29 AM

Anyone have any good safari mobile JavaScript projects/tutorials? I know a guy playing with jQmobile but only the one

Woohoo @Josh ;)

Josh

ok @Moshe bug appears fixed, whew

Moshe

Nice

drachenstern

Email title:

Josh

now let me see if I can find the sysctl I am thinking of

drachenstern

Günter Schmölders Fellowship - NARSAD grant - Ruane Prize - Goldman - Rakic Prize-Sidney R. Baer, Jr. Prize - Lieber Prize - Nola Maddox Falcone Prize - The Freedman Award - The Klerman Award

Josh

1:31 AM

your code is not working right @Moshe?

Moshe

Which code?

Josh

your c code to fork and open lots of connections?

Moshe

It's not ready yet.

Josh

oh

16 mins ago, by Moshe

@Josh What system settings would limit my outbound connections?

confused me

Moshe

I want to know what system settings would protect me from DOS ing myself.

Josh

1:34 AM

I don't remember exactly which ones, it's some of the sys.net.tcp ones

@Moshe you may very well. If you fork() too much, it's called a "fork bomb" and your computer will run out of resources and crash :-)

Fork bomb

In computing, the fork bomb is a form of denial-of-service attack against a computer system which makes use of the fork operation (or equivalent functionality) whereby a running process can create another running process. Fork bombs count as wabbits: they typically do not spread as worms or viruses. To incapacitate a system, they rely on the (generally valid) assumption that the number of programs and processes which may execute simultaneously on a computer has a limit. A fork bomb works by creating a large number of processes very quickly in order to saturate the available space in th...

Moshe

Ah, well not the point here.

I am not the intended target.

Josh

@Moshe but a bug in your code might cause that

Writing malware is not without ill effects to your own system

Moshe

True

Okay, well, Here I goes. You have a mac so you can help.

Josh

Like creating crystal meth or homemade explosives, you may blow yourself up instead of someone else ;-)

Moshe

heh

Josh

1:36 AM

@Moshe I will not participate in such nonsense... not for less than 2500 stars of course ;-)

Moshe

Okay, let me see if it compiles...

(Objective-C...)

Josh

actually what I need right now is foods, LOL

Moshe

Well, it compiled and my code runs. No loop yet though...

Josh

good luck with it @Moshe. As usual you're in good hands with others here

Moshe

Thanks.

Josh

1:38 AM

I'ma grab some dinnaaah!

George Marian

Gamers raid medical server to host Call of Duty

Moshe

@GeorgeMarian - Wow.

That is where Hackers are evil.

George Marian

lol

I found it amusing.

Tim Stone

@GeorgeMarian lmao

Brilliant

Moshe

My code:

while(1)

'nuff said.

@Josh ?

@Josh - Heh, My machine started to slow to a crawl.

@Josh

@Josh?

Rebecca Chernoff

2:03 AM

Why are you purposely doing an endless loop?

drachenstern

hey Chernoff, while you're here ...

Rebecca Chernoff

rut roh

runs

drachenstern

lol

what's technically wrong with the meta.dba.SE proposal other than we don't need to bring everything over from OO.com?

am I just thinking of the wrong approach here?

Rebecca Chernoff

err, what do you mean?

drachenstern

you had had objections to it ... sorry, putting dinner on so back and forth and not looking at the question juuuuust yet

I guess what I'm saying is do you see a point to asking people as a courtesy to backlink to OracleOverflow or is it too much trouble to ask of the community/wasted effort/frowned upon?

I just feel like you and Robert are saying "ignore Oracle Overflow questions as content" ...

idk, I feel conflicted and I'm not doing well to express the why

Rebecca Chernoff

2:14 AM

Don't post a question just to post it or to copy it from somewhere. Post a question if it has value to you and is a problem you're having.

I have no idea what that site's copyright is for it's content.

drachenstern

what are the SE1.0 basic routes? besides /question/

oracleoverflow.com/robots.txt

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff I was trying to DOS the said router. I give up, I nearly DOS'd my CPU though.

Rebecca Chernoff

...

oy.

drachenstern

yay forkbomb

Moshe

@drachenstern yay indeed.

Tim Stone

2:20 AM

@RebeccaChernoff Is @drachenstern causing trouble again? ;)

drachenstern

hey what did I do?

Rebecca Chernoff

Doesn't "again" imply having previously stopped?

Tim Stone

I dunno, I just came back from eating and felt the need to cause a ruckus.

@RebeccaChernoff True, true..

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff I believe I did that last night around midnight ... at least, I recall falling asleep

Moshe

...wait for it...

Points at it

drachenstern

2:25 AM

@Moshe you should seriously ... just let it go or something ...

What exactly are you calculating?

Tim Stone

It's not Tuesday anymore.

drachenstern

Good observation. goes back to answering SO questions

Ok @RebeccaChernoff let's go ahead and finish this misery I'm in :p

Zypher

2:40 AM

@drachenstern you rang?

drachenstern

like days ago man

Zypher

yea ... twas on the train and didn't feel like switching my tablet to typing mode

drachenstern

1 hour ago, by drachenstern

if it's the router between you and the internet, how do you not have access?

start there and read around a bit

Zypher

oh that yea

i was the one who suggested DOSing it to try and reboot it

drachenstern

and he failed at that, succeeded at creating his own space heater

Zypher

2:43 AM

hahaha

nice

but yea the open connections thing is an XP SP2 thing i believe maybe 3 ... i guess i shouldn't have assumed he had a proper server alying around to run it off of

drachenstern

So am I the only one confused that @Moshe doesn't just get the key and open the door?

@Zypher he's on OSX

Zypher

oh then all good

oh C# in XCode yikes

but trying to reset it w/o opening the door is more fun

also failing a key pick the lock

drachenstern

nah, I was saying C# cos of the survey

Tim Stone

@Zypher Isn't that the prompt for Steve Jobs to jump through your screen and drop kick you?

drachenstern

he's doing Obj-C

Zypher

2:45 AM

haha

Tim Stone

Ah.

Zypher

ah

or if it's the right kind of door pop the pins out of the hinges

or failing that get a crowbar, a dremel, a chissel and a hammer and pry the anti-breakin thing off then smack the latch so that it pops out of the socket

drachenstern

or just kick the door in

Zypher

not that i've EVER needed to do any of those things due to my own stupidity

drachenstern

lol

Zypher

2:46 AM

yea but you can't close the door again if you do that

and it only really works if the door opens in

drachenstern

but if it opens out you can pop the hinges

and if you can't pop the hinges on a door that opens out ... well ... you're doing it wrong

Zypher

well yes

but you know those things on the top of the dorr that help it close more smoothly and make sure it shuts?

they make it REALLY hard to move the door off

especially if they are rivetted in instead of screwed in

drachenstern

lol, I just want it open :p

@Zypher wow ...

the hard way on that one?

Zypher

2 mins ago, by Zypher

or failing that get a crowbar, a dremel, a chissel and a hammer and pry the anti-breakin thing off then smack the latch so that it pops out of the socket

Tim Stone

:D

Zypher

2:49 AM

so the lesson on that one was ... when tearing down a data center DON'T unplug the badge reader

also they have batteries that last about 30 mins

so if you're not sure WAIT 30-60 mins before testing to make sure it still releases

Fosco

Hey.. has anyone used TopStyle before?

Tim Stone

Hm, not I.

drachenstern

Not familiar with it

I was under the impression "hello" and "thanks" were ... preferred to not be included in a question ...

Tim Stone

3:05 AM

Yeah, why?

drachenstern

stackoverflow.com/posts/4687415/revisions

OP is 10k

Maybe I just feel like 10k users have been around long enough to get past the "Hello, Thanks" stage

Jin

howdy

just want to say i love SE users.

especially after reading this: forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/…

Zypher

uhg i can barely stand reading forums at this point

Tim Stone

Hahah :P

drachenstern

@Zypher I know the feeling

Jin

3:17 AM

i know right? the same reason I don't eat out anymore because I can't upvote my waiter's service so he can get some rep. I mean, who likes tips anyway?

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drachenstern

@Jin so what about this screams "I love SE users"?

Tim Stone

@Jin Tips never got anyone paintings of unicorns.

Jin

@drachenstern did you read that forum link?

drachenstern

skimming over page 1

do you just mean the clutteredness of the page with lots of extraneous details that are better presented on a SE site instead of the way this page is laid out?

Tim Stone

@Jin They started with a design poll, that was doomed from the start. ;)

Jin

3:19 AM

basically they wanted a site redesign, but they don't want to pay. so they held a contest letting a bunch designers do free spec work, and pick one they like. they also nick picked the designs, a design-by-community- hell.

the worst part, the design that's winning really really sucks

this reminds me of a brochure

drachenstern

@Jin oh, I didn't understand that's where the designs came from, I thought they came from the members

Rebecca Chernoff

o:

drachenstern

@Jin if it's what the members want ...

Jin

@drachenstern members who are designers

Rebecca Chernoff

Hello CM7!

Zypher

3:21 AM

read first paragraph, then first comment

techcrunch.com/2011/01/13/…

drachenstern

@Jin am I mistaken, do you get paid indeed?

Zypher

yes we a printing his unicorn dollars right now

:-D

and this year we'll send bacon too

Tim Stone

@Zypher Hahah :D

Jin

@drachenstern i can paid in encouragement and occasional bacon strips.

drachenstern

lol

Jin

3:22 AM

@Zypher how is your comment sorted?

drachenstern

So once again, a community member designer working for free yeah?

Zypher

Popular now

Rebecca Chernoff

> occasionally publish stuff here on TechCrunch based on something interesting we’ve read on Quora,

occasionally??

(;

Zypher

which ... just makes it better

hey they almost made it FOUR DAYS

Jin

i have 200 followers on Quora and i rarely use it. it took me like 6months to get to 200 followers on twitter

drachenstern

3:23 AM

I don't even have an account on Quora

Tim Stone

I don't acknowledge that Quora exists.

Jin

obviously I'm biased. but I find Quora's UI very confusing.. Maybe I'm just so used to SE's

Rebecca Chernoff

@Jin I got something like 30 followers when I started with SO. Almost doubled my count! q:

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff you're efamous

Fosco

@drachenstern Hello, and Thanks.

Jin

3:25 AM

i think most of my followers came from jeff RTing me, and my tumblr blog

Tim Stone

She needs more bacon. Bacon always attracts followers.

Zypher

i'm just happy i have more people following me than i am following on twitter

Jin

urban-ronin.com is my tumblr if you want to waste your life away

Reno

oy that first picture

drachenstern

a rogue big city warrior huh?

Zypher

3:28 AM

only if he moves to NYC ;)

Jin

yea.. i'm more like a suburban ronin now... dropping kids off the schoolbus stop type of ronin..

is the funniest pic i tumbled last year.. captioned "How to Piss of Nerds"

drachenstern

@Jin that's funny

Zypher

scfi.se makes me sad

Rebecca Chernoff

sci fi trivial pursuit!

Jin

Reno

3:35 AM

this is wrong batman cant fly

Jin

@reno his hand is glued to superman's

lululululul

hahaha

^^

That's why they're going for that super awkward high-five with their free hands.

mootinator

3:41 AM

"Beam me up Scotty..." --Captain Jean-Luc Picard?

Jin

no, Janeway

Fosco

^ Scream and I'll cut you!

lol

Oh Jersey...

3:43 AM

what did they do now?

drachenstern

What did they always do

Zypher

haha ... do i need to get the rock salt shells again to get them off my lawn?

Tim Stone

The statement is a link, in case that's not clear. :P

drachenstern

It was clear

Zypher

2 mins ago, by Reno

Tim Stone

3:45 AM

Hahah

Zypher

WTF protect elderly pedestrians?!?!

Tim Stone

Right?

Reno

@Jin

199.85.208.220/video:1884973

Zypher

although as a cyclist i am also annoyed at the author calling them "vehicles"

Jin

Zypher

3:47 AM

bikes BY LAW ARE Vehicles ... they are afforded all the rights and privileges and responsibilities of motor vehechles

Reno

is warmin' up for friday

Zypher

@RebeccaChernoff you need to implement "/rant" so i can end my rants

Tim Stone

Yeah, it came from NBC Philly though, what can you do? :P

Zypher

yea ... sigh

Tim Stone

I guess they were trying to stress the stupidity of registering at DMV.

Zypher

3:48 AM

yes that too

i'm actually not suprised registering has come up ... it's stupid but you know

Rebecca Chernoff

@Zypher hehe

Tim Stone

Little Jenny will be so disappointed that she has to go stand five hours in line for a plate before riding her new bike.

drachenstern

@TimStone imagine the christmas rush

Tim Stone

Yeah, I really don't understand how it helps elderly pedestrians though. :P

Zypher

haha ... a cop almost gave me a speeding ticket for doing 35 in a 25 zone on my bike once

Reno

3:50 AM

btw its a japanese thingy ... its like you get booked for riding a cycle w/o registration

Jin

I no longer question the Japanese, the internet has desensitized me.

Reno

i was there for one year , odd buncha people

Zypher

oh @jin while you're here where the hell was that chinese place we went to at like 3am?

Jin

@Zypher yelp.com/biz/hop-kee-new-york#query:authentic%20chinese

drachenstern

word to the wise, it doesn't pay to play my wife in Canasta

Zypher

3:53 AM

excellent

Rebecca Chernoff

>_<

Jin

►

@Zypher i miss all the food i ate in nyc! i had like 2 dinners everynight

Zypher

hahaha yea ... i missed most of em ... but i learned my lesson

Jin

@Zypher you should try yelp.com/biz/gahm-mi-oak-restaurant-new-york

Reno

im one of those that never gains a once of weight no matter what i eat , 2-3 dinners are normal for me , i just run out of cash, and friends who want to eat with me

mootinator

3:57 AM

lmao @ rim.jobs

Zypher

ooo maybe for dinner after work tomorrow

Jin

@Zypher make sure you get the " sul lung tang" soup. that's their signature dish. jarrod, kevin and dalgas all loved it.

Zypher

nice ... hmm i think everyone needs to come into nyc again

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