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 HashSet add()            | 901514953 nanoseconds
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 BitSet add()             | 730291513 nanoseconds
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 HashSet retainAll()      | 320467216 nanoseconds
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 HashSet addAll()         | 4394947 nanoseconds

Either my BitSet methods are flawed, or that's a wee bit of an optimization...

Reno

this is actually the first time im growing my facial hair :|

do you guys use a beard softener or something ?

Zypher

@Reno once you get past the itchy stage it's all good

the the itchy stage is a BIAATTCCH

Reno

asdhaopshf it itsches like hell now

Zypher

@RebeccaChernoff uhh what?

drachenstern

4:14 AM

nice password

Rebecca Chernoff

Gah.

Tim Stone

reboots @RebeccaChernoff @radp-style

drachenstern

lol, it might've been! :p

Rebecca Chernoff

frakkin' cat.

Zypher

@Reno yea ... depends on how fast your beard grows how long that lasts

Tim Stone

4:15 AM

Hahah, 'ello kitty!

drachenstern

@Zypher I know that feeling

Zypher

Quick someone try to log into @RebeccaChernoff's mail

Rebecca Chernoff

pfffffft

Tim Stone

'Ello @Mana

Mana

Oh hey @Tim. How's it going?

mootinator

4:16 AM

My password is ****

Tim Stone

Fairly decent, yourself?

Zypher

@mootinator that's not nice

or a very strong one

Mana

Yeah, pretty well! Spent like three hours studying Calculus while everyone around res gets wasted out of their minds. I don't feel like my time was wasted.

mootinator

@Zypher It's full of symbols!

Reno

Zypher

4:17 AM

no no you need one like mine ***************

Tim Stone

Thirsty Thursdays? Heh

Zypher

ahh those where the days

mootinator

How do I make my password bold? All I get is this... ********

Zypher

of course if i had done what @mana did ... i woulda had a much better gpa

hmm i think you need to wrap it in "**" like this: ****************

Rebecca Chernoff

most semesters i didn't have class on fridays. worked out well.

Zypher

4:19 AM

yea ... on a good day we would see one flake of snow claim no class tomorrow and party till 4am

... there was always class

Mana

oh man.

drachenstern

@Mana for reference that was the smart plan

what calculus?

Mana

One-var

drachenstern

that's important stuff

Rebecca Chernoff

actually, the best was the semester i took glass blowing. wed nights from 10:30pm-1:30am, and then we'd drink until about 4am. luckily i didn't have class until 1pm on thursdays.

Jin

4:20 AM

you guys made me hungry, so i went got some snack

Mana

Jin, how kind of you to reveal Cooking's new skin.

Zypher

although the best was when we took our friend out to a strip club for his 23rd birthday ... got home around 4am, then i met my gf at the time ar 5am for breakfast ... i had to turn in a final to my advisor at 8 am i sat outside the classroom starting at 7am fell asleep with my paper in my hand, my advisor walked by grabbed the papper kicked me awake and told me to go to my dorm and sleep it off

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff glass blowing huh?

Zypher

@jin mmmmmm

drachenstern

what was the degree in again?

mootinator

4:22 AM

<-- Shocked at the lack of a joke bacon.stackexchange.com proposal on area51.

Tim Stone

@Zypher Hahahah, nice.. :P

Rebecca Chernoff

BS and MS in Computer Science. Glass blowing fits in to that nicely don't you think?

drachenstern

I do

Zypher

seems to yep

drachenstern

an MS? hmmm that just reminds me more that I'm behind ...

Tim Stone

4:23 AM

in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 days ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

►

Zypher

@drachenstern i've got an A.A.S and a B.A.

mootinator

My favorite semester was the one where I had a 'props' class.

Rebecca Chernoff

There's a professional studio in St. Louis. They teach a class each semester partnered with my uni. And you get to watch them make the actual stuff they sell, no noobs or anything like that teaching you.

drachenstern

@Zypher same here

but I have a dual minor :S

mootinator

I made a box. Out of wood.

drachenstern

4:24 AM

Appl Math and EE

Tim Stone

@drachenstern I'm short a MS too, if it makes you feel better. I didn't see the point unless I had a specialization, which I was too indecisive about, heh.

Rebecca Chernoff

I hadn't originally planned on the MS. Didn't decide until a month before graduation actually. My school offers a 5 year BS/MS combo so I "switched" into that program.

drachenstern

@TimStone oh everyone I know that I still associate with from academia is either a uni prof or is in a PhD program

Zypher

i'll eventually get an MS ... probably a systems/MBA mix ... but i need to wait long enough for them to not care about my undergrad GPA :)

drachenstern

and a lot of people want me to keep going, but I'm kinda stalled out on my specialty too

I feel like I need to pick something big for my PhD

mootinator

4:26 AM

I want to get an MS in HCI eventually. Though I doubt I'll ever have time for that now.

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff i majored in computer engineering, minor in computer science

drachenstern

I keep looking at these problems other people are solving and going "too easy" and giving them solutions and they go write papers and get degrees :S ... I should stop doing that I've been told

Apparently I need to write the papers so I can get the degrees

Tim Stone

I skipped a year and got my BS in Comp Sci done in three. I almost did double major in Physics, but I couldn't cram it in. :/

Zypher

yes, take thier idea, don't give them a solution and get degree

drachenstern

@Zypher but their ideas are so dumb

Tim Stone

4:27 AM

Then I technically had a math minor, but kind of forgot to declare it. >_>

drachenstern

@TimStone silly

mootinator

@drachenstern The reason I didn't do an MS earlier is that I kept going to presentations, thinking boring and/or irrelevant and not wanting to waste my time.

Zypher

NYU actually has an MS major i REALLY want to do ... not online and dind't want to move up there for a long time ... that problem is now solved soon

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff oh that's like cheating!

Rebecca Chernoff

mwuahahaha

drachenstern

4:29 AM

@mootinator oh I love the presentations on the stuff I want to do, just no interesting problems ....

distributed computing, big systems

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Yeah..heh.

drachenstern

remember that link from my buddy the other day showing the top and cpu dump from his term?

He's one of the ones I gave advice on how to rebuild his network to squeeze more performance

Zypher

ja ... i remember being sad that it was only a screenshot and not hardware porn

drachenstern

he's doing reduced power consumption in datacenters

@Zypher I've worked with groups that have way more cpus than that on hand ... he's working on completely mobile cloud datacenters ... live migration of the cloud from one locale to another

Rebecca Chernoff

drachenstern

4:31 AM

totally machine independent VMs

Rebecca Chernoff

paperweight ^^

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff cool!

I'm jealous

I know a microscopic modicum of what goes into that

Zypher

nice @drachenstern and @RebeccaChernoff

Rebecca Chernoff

ahem plate...

drachenstern

@Zypher yeah but it's kinda dumb what I had to tell him ... you'll kinda laugh a bit

he was wanting to reduce components in his box, but still run VMs

these are headless compute nodes, they don't need a disk cos they run off hadoop

he was clueless what a ramdisk was

Zypher

4:33 AM

hahah wow

drachenstern

this is a kid going for a CS PhD and smarter than most computer science guys I know

had NO idea

I explained how they work and how it would improve performance and remove the need for a disk on the box

mootinator

Eh...

PhDs are overrated.

drachenstern

allocate 8GB RAM/CPU in a VM and load the images off a 'cast server

mootinator

For instance. The person who worked on my project before me had one.

drachenstern

with compute nodes of 64GB/8 cores that's 8VMs floating on one box

Zypher

4:34 AM

hmm this reminds me ... i need to research cluster enabled NTFS in windows 2008

do you know how HARD it is to find that in google

drachenstern

being served over fiber ... able to move those in minutes

@Zypher I can imagine

So where this guy's problem is neat, it's not really that hard ya know?

Jin

businessinsider.com/aol-michael-arrington-2011-1

drachenstern

it's mostly a matter of proper image building (automatable) and proper VM design (infrastructure mostly) and then it's just scripting

Jin

Arlington 'n Topolsky going at it in comment section

drachenstern

who wants to get a PhD on that? What are you gonna do after 10 years?

Zypher

4:37 AM

@drachenstern teach college?

drachenstern

however I keep getting pointed out that the trick is to get the PhD, then to worry about what to do after

@Zypher yeah yeah :p

mootinator

My grandfather, a very successful engineer, believes people getting an MSc and/or PhD. before they have any real world experience in their field is complete BS. FWIW.

drachenstern

right now I just wanna write code ... I'll play with that in a few years, then I'll go in and write some papers, get into a PhD program, get my degree and then rewrite something somewhere

@mootinator I subscribe to that school of thought

Rebecca Chernoff

Yeah...that whole writing papers thingadongdong... |:

drachenstern

@mootinator which is why I recognized that the guy needed to look at ramdisks right away

mootinator

4:39 AM

nod

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff makes you kinda puke a little in your mouth up front doesn't it?

Zypher

I've got it! become famous, and get an honorary PhD

drachenstern

so surprisingly (the wrap up to the story) after I explained to him the concept and how to do it and what the effect would be and generally a night over beers and napkins, he knew what to go look for and the next day found two groups that were doing more or less what he wanted and already had software toolkits that did the bulk of it

Zypher

or 10

drachenstern

@Zypher I'm considering becoming JonSkeet v0.1 ;)

Tim Stone

4:40 AM

@Zypher Someone who received one made a joke about that at our commencement, heh.

Reno

Jon Skeet is like "the one"

Rebecca Chernoff

@drachenstern mmhmm ):

Reno

there cant be a Jon Skeet 0.1 or 1.1

drachenstern

@Reno meaning like "not as good but in the same vein"

mootinator

found it odd finding a recommendation from someone at a local company on the back of Jon Skeet's book. Apparently I don't pay enough attention to the local dev community :/

Zypher

4:43 AM

Stack Overflow Blog: Welcome Valued Associate Nick Craver

Posted by Jeff Atwood on January 3rd, 2011

I’m pleased to announce that we’re kicking off 2011 with some new blood on the team, starting with Nick Craver.

Nick will be working remotely for us from North Carolina.

Nick is an old friend of Jarrod Dixon, so he comes highly recommended. Jarrod always told me how great Nick was, and although I implicitly trust Jarrod’s opinion, I sort of waved him off with a yeah, yeah. But then this happened:

When you top the Stack Overflow reputation leagues for 2010, rest assured you now have my full and unfettered attention. …

^^ yes there can

drachenstern

@Zypher anyone notice after he started the javascript room DIED?

Reno

@drachenstern im kidding lol

drachenstern

@Reno ah, mkay

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Well, not died...but I did start to wonder if they've gone and locked him in the basement and forced him to program all day long.

mootinator

Stuck in mah bubble.

2

Zypher

4:45 AM

@TimStone normal occurrence when SO hires someone

drachenstern

@mootinator that's interesting

Tim Stone

@Zypher Ah, phase two. After the microchipping.

takes notes

drachenstern

I hear it's a normal occurrence when anyone gets hired ... speaking of, who let @RebeccaChernoff out?

Zypher

oh well this is part of her job :)

drachenstern

apparently not during the day ;)

Zypher

4:46 AM

special chip

Tim Stone

@drachenstern She just silently observes then.

Zypher

there are some ... issues that need to be worked out

but we've only lost like 3 or 4 monkeys in trials

Rebecca Chernoff

|:

poor monkeys

drachenstern

@RebeccaChernoff it's ok, you're not a monkey. They'll put a longer leash on you

I don't think they'll let you wander off like that, you shouldn't get lost

Rebecca Chernoff

whew

drachenstern

4:47 AM

I'm so glad Moshe isn't here to star all this

Zypher

ha

Rebecca Chernoff

oy

3

Tim Stone

sighs

drachenstern

@TimStone are you about to use your 20 star limit?

Tim Stone

I'm not a compulsive starrer. :P

drachenstern

4:49 AM

6 hours ago, by Josh

Josh

@drachenstern I'm glad to see others are getting use out of my star

drachenstern

You're welcome

I told you I was starring it for searchability ;)

mootinator

7 mins ago, by drachenstern

6 hours ago, by Josh

drachenstern

shall we dance?

Josh

@drachenstern LOL. Ok night everyone

drachenstern

4:57 AM

18 secs ago, by mootinator

7 mins ago, by drachenstern

6 hours ago, by Josh

@Josh lol, ok

Josh

@drachenstern you're all crazy :-)

31 secs ago, by drachenstern

18 secs ago, by mootinator

7 mins ago, by drachenstern

6 hours ago, by Josh

Jin

٩(̾●̮̮̃̾•̃̾)۶

4

Rebecca Chernoff

I can spare one of my precious stars for that. (;

mootinator

But can you reverse it?

drachenstern

what is it? a pig?

Tim Stone

5:01 AM

looks back over at chat ...What the hell?

mootinator

That's what I'm dying to know.

Rebecca Chernoff

@TimStone I wouldn't suggest doing that...

Jin

i'm not sure if it displays correct on other OSes or not..

Tim Stone

@RebeccaChernoff shakes head :P

Jin

Rebecca Chernoff

5:04 AM

mootinator

He looks like he was beaten by an ugly stick on my pc.

Jin

@mootinator well.. you're using a P.. n/m

P) its a pirate arr

Arrrgoodnight

G'night

5:25 AM

5:47 AM

Does Java have a KeyValuePair object besides a map?

(or other hash-like structure)

Tim Stone

Nope

Well, at least I don't think so, what did you need it for specifically?

drachenstern

In C# there's a construct but it's really only valid if you're using a collection.

you would foreach key in collection, collection[key] = value

but it really doesn't make sense as a standalone object

Dan Grossman

comcast network is down here :/

illegally tethering my phone with pdanet

Tim Stone

Ouch, that's no fun.

@drachenstern I guess that's like iterating over a map in Java (which is kind of annoying): for (Map.Entry<K, V> entry : map.entrySet()) entry.setValue(newValue);

Dan Grossman

turns on 4G radio

drachenstern

5:59 AM

something like that

@DanGrossman ouch

but how would you get K?

err, something like that

how do you find out the name of the entry? is that entry proper

trying to answer a question on dba.SE

Tim Stone

@drachenstern entry.getKey()

drachenstern

ahhh

Dan Grossman

this is pretty lame for 4g

drachenstern

shit, it's better than what I have in my apartment

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Just run a cable from work, no one will notice.

Dan Grossman

6:01 AM

biggest difference between 3G and 4G is the latency on the initial connection

drachenstern

@TimStone shit, I'm pretty sure my house is faster :S

Yi Jiang

+1 to the guy in my local bakery for the fresh cream bun - there's so much cream in there that it tastes like cake

Dan Grossman

new guy moved in a house across the street from my mom recently, asked her if he could run a cable from her house to his and pay half the cable bill ;x

George Marian

@YiJiang Must resist urge to make a joke...

drachenstern

can I get a peer review?

0

A: What is a Key/Value store database?

Are you familiar with the concept of a Key/Value Pair? Presuming you're familiar with Java or C# this is in the language as a map/hash/datatable/KeyValuePair (the last is in the case of C#) The way it works is demonstrated in this little sample chart: Color Red Age 18 Size ...

@GeorgeMarian you can resist ;)

Tim Stone

6:04 AM

@GeorgeMarian Good evening :P

George Marian

@drachenstern Hinting at will tide me over. :)

@TimStone evenin'

Yi Jiang

Hey, what's so funny about fresh cream buns?

drachenstern

@YiJiang think about it ... a guy, filling donuts with cream ... batter ... you're going to make someone actually say it aren't you?

Tim Stone

shakes fist at missing L

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Erm... I must be dumb or something, but no, I still don't get it

drachenstern

6:10 AM

how to put this mildly ...

George Marian

chuckles

Tim Stone

@YiJiang There's some innuendo there, for which we'll blame @GeorgeMarian

drachenstern

do you know the euphemism for pearl necklace?

it would definitely be XXX

Yi Jiang

@drachenstern Erm... maybe it'll be better not to know

drachenstern

just imagine it would help the donut maker to have a playboy handy

Tim Stone

6:12 AM

facepalms

George Marian

ROFL

drachenstern

which is sadder, that I found an image from google that should relay the concept or that I looked?

Tim Stone

I'm...not sure what to answer to that.

drachenstern

I figured a picture is worth a thousand words might be of benefit here

Tim Stone

I'm pretty sure that many of those words are not chat-friendly. :P

George Marian

6:18 AM

whistles quietly to himself

drachenstern

too late, closing my tabs, going to bed, it's late and I have to be up in the morning

Tim Stone

G'night ;)

drachenstern

if he still hasn't grasped it then ... I'll refrain from saying something about leaving it in your hands ... that would definitely be the worst ;)

Yi Jiang

is thoroughly confused

drachenstern

ok, it's on you two

George Marian

6:20 AM

Well, my work is done here. Think I'll turn-in as well.

Tim Stone

lmao

Good night. :P

Dan Grossman

Video of IBM's Watson playing (and winning) Jeopardy engadget.com/2011/01/13/…

George Marian

g'night folks

Yi Jiang

I erm... well... will never mention cream buns here again

drachenstern

@yi gmail me

Yi Jiang

6:30 AM

9

A: What is the most powerful weapon ever dreamed of in science fiction?

Vogon's poetry.

^ Ha!

@drachenstern Erm... no thanks

drachenstern

Hahaha

Night

Yi Jiang

Well technically it's Vogon Poetry, but hehe

Dan Grossman

:would toss in a vote for the Q:

Q Continuum

In the Star Trek universe, the Q Continuum is an extradimensional plane of existence inhabited by a race of extremely powerful, hyper-intelligent beings known as the Q. They act indifferently to the affairs of the non-Q beings living in normal space, or in the many dimensions parallel to their own. They show a unique interest in the development of humanity and the progress displayed by mankind. The Q have appeared in episodes of Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, and Star Trek: Voyager. One of the Q is known as Quinn to the Voyager crew. Overview The Q are a uni...

Reno

6:53 AM

i actually liked vogon poetry in that movie .. i must be a super hero (=

Yi Jiang

@Reno Or you have no taste

Reno

vogon poetry is deep man

Yi Jiang

7:25 AM

Well there we go, I just created the tag wiki excerpt for [stackexchange-button] \o/

now eagerly awaiting the arrival of the shiny new bronze badge

Dan Grossman

8:20 AM

> So Descartes walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Can I get you a beer?" Descartes thinks it over for a minute, and finally, replies, "I think not," and poof -- disappears.

radp

8:35 AM

@Reno Sweet stuff, can I consider using as avatar in the future? :D

radp

8:49 AM

> They act indifferently to the affairs of the non-Q beings living in normal space, or in the many dimensions parallel to their own. They show a unique interest in the development of humanity and the progress displayed by mankind.

Somehow that's not contradictory?

Dan Grossman

I guess you could say the interest is unique because of said indifference to everyone else.

radp

9:14 AM

iwatchedyourhack.org/node/8

Reno

@radp are you talking about the ninja - pirate thingy ?

lol i was bored , sure you can :)

radp

@Reno aye, I were

radp

9:29 AM

@Reno duly noted \o/

Yi Jiang

9:56 AM

@RebeccaChernoff Say, since you can speak on official capacity now, when's the next round of F/OSS ads starting?

radp

10:33 AM

@YiJiang Here's a speculation: not now. There was very little enthusiasm for round 2 and now there are 30 SEs to advertise for.

Yi Jiang

@radp Dammit... sigh. You're right about the lack of enthusiasm, of course, but what about the 30 SE sites?

They haven't deployed any ads at all to those sites, right?

radp

@YiJiang I'm talking about the question ads appearing in SO

Yi Jiang

@radp Oh, right.

radp

As Kevin mentioned in an answer on SA ad slots are only so many

however you can post your SO API based app/mod ads in on StackApps, like I have :)

Yi Jiang

Should I ask a question about it?

@radp Meh, that won't do at all, would it?

radp

10:37 AM

@YiJiang I have 163 unique users for SO Live

so I guess it's not completely uneffective

Certainly more than I could reach via chat

Yi Jiang

github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts/graphs/traffic

Look at the spikes in traffic - the most recent one is because of the link from the blog

radp

@YiJiang eh, SO Live is not nearly as useful :)

although I don't have any of your modifications installed

Yi Jiang

@radp Those are not installs, but page views, and probably not unique IP address views either

radp

@YiJiang Don't they use the API at some point?

Yi Jiang

@radp Not at all, no

radp

10:40 AM

aw, weird, how do you get stuff like user lists then?

Yi Jiang

The two main script, the chat mod and the se mod, both don't. The

@radp The /profile command uses the API, but without a key

radp

Well, get a key and track users with that.

Yi Jiang

It's unlikely you'll go through anything more than a dozen request like that a day, so it's safe

@radp Meh, not everybody uses the /profile command anyway

radp

Oh well.

Is there a list of features added/changed/removed/rchernified by the SE mod scripts?

Yi Jiang

Having it 'ping home' like that would be weird... there would probably be a better way of doing analytics

@radp The readme file should do, eh

radp

10:44 AM

oh, I was merely blankly staring at the wiki last time I looked

/start to flag?

Yi Jiang

11:03 AM

in Chat feedback on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 hours ago, by Yi Jiang

I'm not staying in here for more than a few seconds at a time, because prolonged exposure to the StackExchange UnicornBlood @MentionNotificationizer is just too dangerous

radp

11:40 AM

@YiJiang It is, however, part of this test.

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