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00:01
@bjb568 Do you really think it'd make a difference?
If people were talking in here, those reports would be a heck of a lot farther apart.
Recently, we've been peaking at ~15/hr (with a few outliers). That's one every four minutes, which is nothing if people are talking
Also, those peaks are during downtime anyway.
See how that peak fits right into the gap in people's talking here?
That's because that's when spam shows up. When people aren't generally watching
Outside of that peak, we're talking more like 7-10 an hour. One every 6-10 minutes.
So what if it isn't absolutely frequent? This isn't a very active room. When a bot is 3rd most active, and a times makes a mountain of a monologue of many dozens of messages, it's too loud.
The Tavern is dying. It was dying before Smokey was a thing. A few regulars have left, the rest have become moderators and gone to TL.
If other people aren't talking, I don't want the bot talking at all, not just at 1 per {small number} minutes.
why?
@Undo invite me to TL then…
00:07
Yeah, that's not going to happen
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@Doorknob chat isn't a review queue. It's the same reason why nobody wants me to spam the room with crap.
Here's the deal: We can turn it off here. I suspect you'll be begging for it back in a few weeks when the room is even more deader.
Meh, rather no content than crap content. Quality > quantity and such…
@JasonC @InfiniteRecursion as room owners, you're probably interested in this.
I don't see Smokey interrupting your argument @bjb568, so I don't see how its a problem.
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00:12
Given its creator (Undo), I suspect Smokey will favor dogs over cats any day
@SantaClaus No, you have to look at github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/graphs/contributors. I suspect it would favor foxes and (normal) humans.
@Undo And people named chris.
00:17
no
s/n/h/
> (email address) that's my face book
ಠ_ಠ
That is not your face book. Doesn't even resemble a book. — Undo 7 secs ago
yay replying to bad answers
00:23
you sure that's spam?
not rly
just not an answer
I didn't flag it as spam or anything
Who can even tell anymore…
The sidebar is so big, how could anyone be expected to see the difference? \s
!!/alive
@SantaClaus Of course
DevDoodle has no sidebar. 100% content for your viewing pleasure!
00:30
Your website melts my eyes though
Aww, thanks. It's good to have some validation for my design work.
00:50
I was kidding
:p
Night!
01:44
in Shadow's Den, 10 hours ago, by Uniqueke kittean ate Unidoggy
in Tavern on the Meta, 18 secs ago, by Uniqueke kittean ate Unidoggy
We should deactivate smokey for a day and see how quite the tavern gets
02:16
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected, offensive title detected: Does anybody of experience with “/usr/bin/fuck” and “/usr/bin/fake.cfg” by terary on unix.stackexchange.com
sd ignore-
@Undo No, not really.
o.O
@JasonC So you don't have any thoughts on this?
Only that smokey stays.
As for the chat being "dead", I mean, big deal. It's just a chat room. If nobody has anything to say then nobody has anything to say and that's how it is.
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I do agree that smokey gets noisy at times but the easy solution is to just ignore it if you don't like it. Since everybody in here has the means to do that I therefore do not care. @bjb
while (you.isUnhappy){
    you.give(cat_memes);
}
You::give(what) { if(what==cat_memes) isUnhappy=true; }
Uh oh. InfiniteCatMemeException
-1, should be singapaw
I don't understand what I just watched. I need a genre as a hint. Was that a comedy? Or like, a touching story? Or an ad?
A documentary?
02:52
in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 mins ago, by Quill
so I have a SEDE query running to help me find relevant JavaScript questions to edit, the row count returned for CR was 1171, and the row count returned for SO was 516751
RIP quality
03:09
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Is there a way to recover a word document password? by Perterjeous on apple.stackexchange.com
@Quill What's the query?
just finds questions tagged jquery without tag javascript or tag coffeescript
you could also do one for finding $( question bodies without jQuery
Since I know little to nothing about jQuery, indulge this question please: Does it really require the javascript tag too? It's got over 1M questions already. Does adding "javascript" actually improve anything?
Well, jQuery is a library, you need the language tag too
That's just stupid to post without it, and anyway, I'm not spamming SO with edits (not even editing on SO), so it shouldn't bother anyone
Not necessarily. If the question is entirely about jQuery and the underlying javascript isn't important
03:17
I don't post mysqli without PHP
Ok.
In the same sense I don't post Scrapy without Python. In my mind, one goes with the other
My question, though, does adding "javascript" - a tag with 1M questions - actually add anything?
Maybe not on SO, but on a different, smaller site, yes
Fair enough
03:20
on a site where there's 4k JS questions versus 1m, I'd say so
some tags don't even have 100 questions
!!/blame
@Quill It's Undo's fault.
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: In the movie Constantine how did Constantine stay alive? by Tracey Stewart on scifi.stackexchange.com
 
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user202362
05:32
user202362
I like how the ducks cross the road in a single file ...
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, email in answer: Common obstacles to reaching a negotiated or mediated divorce settlement? by Kesby Karenj on law.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron)
06:25
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Be in first page of Google and getting no traffic? by Md Mostafa Kamal Dalim on stackoverflow.com
@Undo I agree with @bjb568, Smokey posts should be moved to a different room. This room has become like a review queue nowadays (full of stuff that needs attention). An empty room is better than a room full of reports. Personally, I stopped chatting here because of the reasons bjb mentioned, but if the active members of this room want Smokey in here, it is upto them. 15 reports + 15 tpu's = 30 Smokey stuff an hour is boring.
@balpha Can you please revise if Smokey should remain here or move to a different room? I think you are the right person because you gave Smokey the privs to post reports in this room. Thanks.
06:45
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skin Care for all bugy by alex jhon on drupal.stackexchange.com
07:00
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in title: http://myfitnessherbs.com/miracle-bust? by Nish Shost on workplace.stackexchange.com
@balpha I disagree with @Inf so it's 1 to 1. It's all up to you now. No pressure.
We should give smokey a coin flip command then use it to decide his own fate.
@inf You know, maybe a compromise could be to disable smokey commands in here. That way users can mute him if they'd like, we still get to see the reports, and the room won't get the tpu's and other commands. Then muting smokey would give the desired effect and is optional.
user202362
Maybe let smokey stay and change the name of this room to trash bin - because smokey dumps all the trash here?
user202362
07:16
user202362
I talk through the valley of the shadow of trash
user202362
 I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
user202362
why does the line above sound like the one you would find in 50 shades of grey ... all kinky & stuff ...
user202362
Slum - that's it, the right name for this chat
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: "Please look straight. Do not turn your body to the side." by a deleted user on ell.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron @Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.)
08:01
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Change web page content in real time without ajax by Jeremy on stackoverflow.com
08:32
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: FUTmas and TOTY promotions by memorygame on gaming.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Link following arrow in answer: .gitolite.rc what does this files do? by Mark on stackoverflow.com
08:50
Morning!
@JasonC There's still the sd responses.
@JasonC Meh, is that really useful?
09:09
@bjb568 You get up too early.
user202362
and you sir, obviously have not been to bed ...
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper Au contraire!
I go to bed early.
user202362
Oo
I slept for five hours.
I hope to go back to bed later.
@bjb568 Yes
09:21
Meh, fine, the compromise is fine with me.
Good thing it matters what's fine with you :P
user202362
says the company poodle
10:19
I don't get this, is it an answer?
user202362
10:34
re-write current line with spaces or tabs?
user202362
trolls with 4 upvotes, thought it only happens on meta, obviously I was wrong ...
11:16
@JasonC I like your idea. Perfect!
user202362
11:40
apparently you can stalk the space station which I just did, what a wonderful bright dot! :p
@TelkittytheWebDeveloper If you get addicted to watching objects in the sky here's another cool site, although you want to check the bit on magnitudes because a lot aren't visible to the eye, although Iridium flares are too... heavens-above.com
@JasonC As someone who flags a lot of Smokey spam and wouldn't mute it that sounds good to me as well - when spam is rampant it'd save seeing new message notifications that are only confirmations.
user202362
Thx
user202362
reminds me that I yet to make my telescope work, currently it only gives me blur
12:09
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Custom order fields don't show up in order details by Bob Eret on stackoverflow.com
12:35
@InfiniteRecursion @Undo @JasonC @bjb568 That's a fair discussion to bring up. Let me think about it and grab some opinions.
13:06
@balpha I still don't see why people object to Smokey being here.
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user202362
people generally don't like talkative low rep users ...
user202362
bots included
@SmokeDetector O_O
13:15
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Our babygirl doesn't say mommy by Tolga Ö. on parenting.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector ignore- haha
Actually, it's baba in Persian too.
Do we have a robotic.SE? That's intriguing.
What a little lonely SE.
How many robotic spam do we get?
6 overall messages from Smokey.
The robots there kill spam faster than smokey finds them
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Not sure I've seen any, I think most have related to "muscle wire" and things like the above that involve muscle simulation
13:29
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: skrill $100 USD = 0.2 bitcoin ( +$92.00 ) bisbury.com delivery in 2 minutes accept paypal and creditcard by fdsahewaghff on bitcoin.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: 2 Bitcoin=$559.99 4.2 Bitcoin=$1099.98 5.5 Bitcoin=$1299.99 by fdsahewaghff on bitcoin.stackexchange.com
@pro blacklist this for smokey?
> 100% legal
"this"?
I'd rather blacklist the domain.
Go ahead
@balpha umm why can I still access this page?
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Q: Why is the stackoverflow 10m page still up?

Uniqueke kittean ate UnidoggyWhy is the stackoverflow 10 million question page still up and accessible? We hit 10m on August 20 last year (2015), and now it's January 2016. Is it still there because someone didn't take it down? Link to 10m page

13:47
[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, pattern-matching website in title: http://ezpprostatehealth.com/ by ADEE on workplace.stackexchange.com
14:18
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: should invalid links be edited for better SEO? by user314480 on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Which SE site should I use to ask about the Google search engine and SEO? by user314480 on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] All of this user's posts are spam: user 314480 on meta.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: what does the assembly instruction 'db' actually do? by boolbool on stackoverflow.com
14:37
@UniquekekitteanateUnidoggy is it a script adding one Keen for each downvote?
nope
it's the punch userscript
So you should write such script
14:54
that's beautiful
it brings tears to my eyes
Here's an idea:
- Looks OK ("this question doesn't seem low-quality"): Move to H&I
- Should Be Improved ("this question has issues that need to be addressed by the asker"): Open close dialog
- Low Quality ("this question does not meet this site's quality standards"): Cast close vote with 3x weight and deletion vote
Because with Stack Overflow, two, not just one of the triage options should be crap.
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: How to count the number of bold words and italic words in a markdown syntax file by Theo Stoica on stackoverflow.com
15:11
Huh, the 10m page is missing any <html> declaration, starting with <head>. That borked HTML must cause some interesting problems in old browsers, and in IE.
Well
IE sucks and should not be supported anywhere
@UniquekekitteanateUnidoggy can't agree more, but @rene will disagree
they sent the EOL notification for IE anyway
Although, Edge's "new" and recycled icon is going to keep IE alive for another decade
Jun 4 '15 at 9:27, by rene
which proves again how awesome IE is...
and of course...
Jan 20 '14 at 17:23, by rene
I only make love to IE
hides from @rene's wrath
15:16
I think @rene is just a really sophisticated IE troll
he probably laughs from behind his firefox window right now
@Quill or even Opera!
15:22
only in his free time
@SmokeDetector why?
@ShadowWizard There is no why data for that user (anymore).
@Pro shouldn't it reply with the user who reported using the "allspam" command? ^
(same way it does for manually reported post)
Prolly, but meh
throwing meh on Tavern
If someone will report all my posts as spam, I would like to know who to blame.... :D
15:31
Dear Smokey,
allspam http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com/users/152859/shadow-wizard
Sincerely, a concerned citizen
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@UniquekekitteanateUnidoggy question is, how you found it? You searched for "Opera sucks" and found it?
> Thank you for reviewing 20 triage questions; come back in 8 hours to continue reviewing.
@ShadowWizard nope
lol
nooooooo @rene is here!
runs away
Going through tavern transcript
Runs
@rene I'm eating some ice cream.
15:32
@rene I'm making some ice cream
@Quill I'm on IE11 right now... best browser evar!
@rene i hope you like your end of life notification spam
We need more disagreement for ice cream
15:33
Yay time machine
@Quill I have eol notifications for breakfast
> A web browser built for spying on you and selling your data to the NSA
So the NSA is paying for my data from my tax money?
they can have my cat memes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
15:36
I use netscape
@rene can one get the number of CVs on deleted posts in SEDE?
Since they included deleted stuff it's fuzzy what you can search for.
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I don't think so
@Quill ...?
@hichris123 chrome...
Yeah...
15:42
Here it comes...
very slowly, too...
Turns out @hichris123 is hired by the NSA ....
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...
.....
...
So many wrong ellipsisseseseses . . .
&hellip;
Hell IP?
15:49
@Quill yer behind!
@bjb568 Shog
I have an old episode of anime loaded up from a week ago... I can't reboot chrome ;-;
@bjb568 don't you use Safari, anyway
like all of your DD screenshots are safari
Would have webkit (nightly), but meh.
I only have 9.0 ;-;
u suk
15:53
<3 you too
Steam Overlay Browser is my absolute favourite
@ShadowWizard That is what it's supposed to do, but perhaps the why data was already gone for some reason.
Hmm, I wonder, @Pro can one allspam a chat user?
15:59
Or... perhaps.
I don't know.
Can we attach the Wheel of Blame result to the report user function?
16:00
Yeah, it doesn't check the validity of the site, actually.
seems someone started trolling gaming.stackexchange.com/a/252203/93824 two posts
@Bart one of your meta answers is used to ask for a new close reason, see this
TIL @Quill is bread
I am Bread
16:04
Bread Pitt?
@ProgramFOX maybe because all posts are already deleted?
@ShadowWizard There's no check for that.
@SmokeDetector why
@ProgramFOX There is no why data for that user (anymore).
Hmm...
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. and now I must cry at my lack of pun skills
16:04
All my posts are deleted. :/
I'll also try it immediately after someone reports it. See if it matters.
@Quill Or you can bow down to mine.
But seriously, I'm a terrible punnnnnner.
Nerds are usually bad at laughing at what other people do.
16:31
> from small utilities that concert milliseconds to full-blown web servers [links to express and hapi]
Uh… node is a web server (among other things), JavaScript is the language, V8 is the interpreter, express and hapi are just crutches for incompetent web developers who don't even know what a server is.
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. Mostly because bjb needed something to complain about, because nobody changed his litter box.
@JasonC Makes sense.
Also I resent that, I'm a nerd, and I'm also really, really good at laughing at other people.
@JasonC Note the adverb. Real nerds are scarce.
Nerdily?
16:42
> Nerds are usually bad at laughing at what other people do.
Thanks for nerdily bolding that adverb.
Nuuuuuuurt!
Gosh.
I should be working.
I should be working. ​
I SHOULD BE WORKING, DAMMIT
I shouldn't be working! And I'm not! Yay skewl!
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Q: My toddler calls me "Mommy", but I'm his father

MichaelIt was cute and funny at first that both of us were being called Mommy, and I still don't really mind. My wife and I laugh and try to correct him, pointing to pictures, ourselves and repeating the correct words. My 21m toddler is just starting to talk, so it's probably normal to be confused a b...

17:00
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How can I convert a Windows batch script to a .exe? by a deleted user on superuser.com (@bwDraco)
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. I still screw up gendered words all the time, they make no damn sense.
Especially the -ess suffix.
OK judging by the reaction of the new generation, I shouldn't be surprised.
@bjb568 Is your sister bjbess?
o_0
That's a yes I take.
17:07
. . .
. . .
17:54
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: Choosing unit of measure system by Ophir Stern on ux.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron)
18:21
@Quill u suk moar now
Seems apple forgot to update their copyright dates :p
beautiful
@bjb568 Yeah, looks like when TV antenna is borked.
:p
wow, imgur really compresses color info aggressively
18:57
Wow, vim has really crappy syntax highlighting.
@bjb568 Saladish
19:47
\o/ I'm officially a yearling now! \o/
succ kat
20:26
!!/blame
@Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ. It's Ϻ.Λ.Ʀ.'s fault.
ಠ_ಠ
!!/blame
@nicael It's bjb568's fault.
Liar!
20:27
Learn to blame properly xD
21:02
stackoverflow.com/a/34843472 - anyone can prove OP that they're not correct?
@nicael not by bashing the OP. Maybe create a jsfiddle to prove him wrong? Where is the bind for that onclick event? The Question is a bit unclear for me
The question seems to be clear because "On the onclick event I'm fetching the data-name attribute value"
Why haven't you just given up on low-rep SO users yet? Utterly hopeless…
21:18
Everyone's low rep at some point :)
And then they diverge: some gain reputation at a reasonable rate and are no longer low rep, some rage quit, some get post banned…
Not everyone goes the first way.
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Can F-cycle substitue FMG for update of existent solution? by Radek Martinez on scicomp.stackexchange.com (@Unihedron)
21:48
morning
sure, morning
22:22
@bjb568 double the cat. double the authorisation
(removed)
Probably the mod didn't think it was spam.
Ah no, the user nuked too.
LOL
@Quill s/s/z/
nope. iz auztralia
Aw thor eye say shun?
It's aw thor eye zey shun!
;-;
22:52
:3
user image
2
Nice cat gives needy human a bath.
12 years ago, I sang in the class concert at my elementary school. I always though it was Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
When I dug into the academic archives, it turns out this was not the case.
The printout I had, dated December 2003, had this URL: zepperfan.tripod.com/Christmas_In_Killarney_lyrics.txt
@bwDraco yer old
Absolutely unbelievable that this is what we sang.
23:44
@cybermonkey Invalid format. Valid format: !!/addblu profileurl or !!/addblu userid sitename.
@cybermonkey User blacklisted (3317808 on stackoverflow.com).
^monitoring their VLQ questions

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