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00:00
Winterbash is here!
Refreshed!
nvm it exists now
It has begun!
Spammers like hats too
00:01
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Can't log in to Winter Bash. :(
Same here.
Ping @balpha.
Hmm, second try worked.
Whoa, that's weird
I could.
And... I haz a hat!
...Sufganiyot, on Stack Overflow.
Hey... I'm wearing it on Meta.Se, but not in the Tavern...?
Never mind, refreshed browser.
...somebody is trying to see if they get a hat for starring a chat message?
Nah, I just starred it because you posted it just before I was gonna post "refresh your tab".
00:09
There is "Auld Lang Syne", for starring a message within 12 hours of New Year (0:00 UTC).
Ok. Meanwhile, compliments on the headwear :-)
I'm surprised about that Auld Lang Syne hat, I thought a hat for getting stars was not considered the greatest idea.
But "Weed Eater" seems like a plan: "accepted answer to Tumbleweed question."
I wonder if I can get Living in the Future... would probably have to be on meta.SE if anywhere.
1 secret hat was already found.
Which one? :O
Can you check in the 10k tools, @Doorknob?
Checking
00:19
must be. odinson is thor, and the dupehammer was announced with thor's hammer.
@hichris123 stackoverflow.com/questions/34257946/… is the only thing I'm seeing on him
And he didn't dupe hammer it
Oh! This is a long shot, but...
I think that hat is awarded when you vote to close a question as a dupe, and someone dupe hammers it after you
There's a secret Eureka hat for figuring out a secret hat. Gimme my hat :P
00:20
This year Eureka comes in the form of staff ripping one of your diamonds off and putting it on your head.
Dammit I wanted to get a hat by reopening but it was an audit :( stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/10547543
need to call in Pops for that one.
@bjb568 ahahaha, I wonder if audit frequency is increased specifically because of this
Definitely should be.
@Doorknob I hope it's about 2:1 audit:real-review ratio.
00:22
!!/hats
@CRABOLO GO EARN HATS! Winter Bash won't end for 20 days, 23 hours, 37 minutes, and 48 seconds. :D
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Last year hats wrecked review.
mathematics winning by many numbers winterbash2015.stackexchange.com/leaderboard
Whoa I'm #1 on SO for hats
00:23
lol, I threw a reopen vote on a question that I answered (which was downvoted) and all users promptly went on reopening it
And on SE network
very nice hat @Undo
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Why did the designer use this motor? by Dee on electronics.stackexchange.com (@PeterJ)
wtf, little white guys are mean...
00:25
Looks like there are 41 hats.
Unless there are more/some of those are jokes.
it looks like the little white guys are kicking soccer balls but then why they wearing helmets?
ok, that was cool
@CRABOLO I think they are snowballs...
and just saw one throwing one vertically and hitting itself with it D:
their heads look over sized or else they wearing helmets
!!/hats
@UNIKITTY2.0 GO EARN HATS! Winter Bash won't end for 20 days, 23 hours, 33 minutes, and 34 seconds. :D
00:26
@CRABOLO xkcd style
All these people who dupehammered stuff haven't opted into hats. :(
lots of taverners tied for 2nd
you just look silly with that hat @bjb :/
Lol hats go into chat
Of course they do
type something @bjb so they can see your hat
00:30
How to set hats?
@CRABOLO or... click his profile
nah, it's only on SO
btw, my hat isn't very visible
i thought you just weren't feeling well @bra
00:31
!!/blame
@Braiam It's Sam's fault.
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in title: [email protected] by kushal on apple.stackexchange.com
@balpha is thalia and batman hats mutually exclusive?
Is there a page to set hats?
I just got one
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A: Hide or show if radio button is checked

bjb568 #show:not(:checked) ~ p { display: none } <input type="checkbox" id="show" /> <label for="show">Show</label> <p>Why use jQuery when you can use CSS?</p> <aside>Checkbox is the correct UI element for this, BTW.</aside>

Y NO LIKEY ME ANSWAR?
00:35
@bjb568 the comment says why...
It's wrong.
It's like saying commented code alone can't answer an SO question.
well, CR isn't SO
and in SO is a roulette too
@Braiam answer format is the same
No, it's not
@bjb568 Code Review is geared towards review, not just code
I wonder if smokey can win a hat...
Pops on December 14, 2015
Another calendar year is ending, which can mean only one thing. It's time once again for the event that brings joy to all (with a slight helping of dismay for our friends in the southern hemisphere1): Winter Bash!
@SmokeDetector specially if I don't need to pay it...
edited, no longer TB, reopen-pls stackoverflow.com/q/34248670/2371861
@Braiam review of the code? …
the hats much harder than last year
00:41
Pops on December 14, 2015
Another calendar year is ending, which can mean only one thing. It's time once again for the event that brings joy to all (with a slight helping of dismay for our friends in the southern hemisphere1): Winter Bash!
sigh
(my message is too old to delete)
@Feeds you're slow again. :(
What? No hats on mobile site?
Morning Tav
!!/hats
@JamesENL GO EARN HATS! Winter Bash won't end for 20 days, 23 hours, 12 minutes, and 15 seconds. :D
00:47
morning
Okay, I think we can confirm that the Odinson hat is awarded by dupe-hammering something. Possibly by just being involved in closing a question that got dupe hammered.
This year is almost too easy
user image
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i think we can conclude that @undo's Eureka! hat (will earn soon hopefully :)) is for being the first person to guess correctly how to earn a secret hat
Usually I have to work for these things!
Community doesn't have any hats on my diamond sites, so I don't know if moderators can enhatten Community this year :(
00:53
> enhatten
/me checks...
I think just hatten is fine
Although verbing weirds English
@Undo wait until roomba runs
Yeah. We're only a few hours out from that
user202362
00:55
Real question is, what is that font? :P
One of the horrible default ones that comes with Photoshop
@Doorknob Apple.SE I see
@Undo community earned Sufganiyot in 55+ sites
@Braiam PPCG, actually
How does Community upvote?
00:56
@Braiam Yeah, but none of them are mine
Community's got 2 hats on both Puzzling and PPCG
@Doorknob no... Ask DIfferent
@Telkitty chicken factory
so... caching
@Braiam no, that screenshot is from Programming Puzzles & Code Golf :P
00:57
There we go
@Doorknob yeah but Community profile still shows only a hat on apple.se meta.stackexchange.com/users/-1/…
You know the old saying about never eating anything larger than your head? Nobody told Pinkie Pie
user202362
I used paint instead ... one of those funny fonts, can't remember which one though ...
@YiJiang but it looks weird on your current gravatar :/
Wait for it to refresh
It takes up to an hour to synchronize
Although it only took five minutes on Stack Exchange chat
user202362
00:59
@CRABOLO chickens <3 <3<3 ... all is well until the next outbreak of avian influenza
@Braiam got speedy delivery hat
cool... sometimes the thing doesn't light up
Hi from unikitty radio
I don't recall seeing a "review hat" in the list, so gotta be a secret hat there?
01:04
We're going to have a starfest here at new year.
drat, the hat-wearing POST request seems to be locked down fairly well
@Undo IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HARDER THIS YEAR
@Inf add starfest to room events pls
You almost talked yourself out of it with your follow-up...
@Pops Eh?
I stand by whichever guess was right
01:06
...
I'm trying to get the 50 tag wiki edit badge for a hat — made me realize how poorly written tag wikis are. Probably because nobody reads them anyway.
@Pops just wondering, is Thalia and Batman hats mutually exclusive?
I just had a terrible thought.
What if Eureka isn't a thing this year?
:O
01:09
@Pops :( I don't get a piece of it?
@Braiam no
Hey @Pops:
49 mins ago, by Doorknob
There's a secret Eureka hat for figuring out a secret hat. Gimme my hat :P
Please? :P
Hmm, let's see what other secret hats there are...
Pops can't deny or affirm the existence of a secret hat
@Doorknob It's called Archimedes for figuring out a secret hat, not Eureka. ;)
01:10
Ooooh
That's a nice hat
Creative, too
@Doorknob Well, that's not even true, so... no.
@hichris123 I just re-read the transcript, and, unfortunately, no.
:( well, onwards.
@hichris123 You can still steal this one from @Doorknob
01:12
Archimedes is for figuring out a secret hat!
:P
(that's not going to work anyway)
//cdn-prom.sstatic.net/WinterBash/img/hat/696490241.svg?v=db9377226447
oof, that's the URL for Archimedes
@Doorknob You should specify in your bio in which reference frame you've orbited the sun 14 times
The dupehammer one is //cdn-prom.sstatic.net/WinterBash/img/hat/507644442.svg?v=49f0194b3937
@Doorknob ^
any relationship?
Fortunately for my own sense of self-worth, I had Odinson under "easy" for "how hard will it be for people to guess the secret." I look forward to the attempts at the medium, difficult and very difficult ones.
(So, uh... there are at least four secret hats. Unless I'm just saying that to throw you off.)
01:16
@Pops Let's see... 41-28 = 13? Or are some of those jokes?
@YiJiang Journeyman is more cute superuser.com/users/10165/journeyman-geek
@hichris123 I can confirm that forty-one minus twenty-eight does equal thirteen. What, if anything, that mathematical statement has to do with hats, I couldn't say.
I believe there are 13 secret hats.
There, is that better?
11 mins ago, by Braiam
Pops can't deny or affirm the existence of a secret hat
there are no more secret hats, people. Let's just give up.
HELP POPS HAS CONTR there are no more secret hats
01:23
Morning...
Now I get to scrape every winterbash page for secret hats...
I think I'll put a script again for Auld Lang Syne hat
@Braiam Nope. They can just be different questions. Or, I suppose theoretically, a question that gets closed and reopened several times, but that's really not in the spirit of the hats.
@Pops so, are you saying that if I vote to reopen a question that I edited I should get both hats?
You're taking hats far too seriously
Just do it twice.
01:31
Oh, I thought you were asking about that from a different angle. Yeah, that ought to work.
We seem to think pinging the Unicorn Lord balpha gives you a hat
@Quill Evidence?
I, personally, and Stack Exchange, the company, disclaim all responsibility for any murder-by-unicorn that may occur as a result of Winter Bash.
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@Quill Hrm
01:32
Is Odinson about dupe hammering?
Provoke the master of weaponized ponies at your own peril.
@balpha is going to get ping-flooded. In chat and in comments.
@balpha hello unicorn lord
@balpha hallo
Although didn't we already do this with Hairboat last year, and it didn't turn out well?
01:34
@Undo why dont you and any other hat loving folks join us in the winter bash room.
So at least there's that.
And now I think it's time to leave, before I become an accessory to... anything.
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@bjb568 something like that.
@balpha The record number of pings that I've ever given out for ping spamming was 488 pings to the same user, you'll be getting many, many more, I'm sure :-)
@Pops well, I will play with my thumbs waiting for my Thalia hat :D
01:35
@Pops before you give away trade secrets
@Quill how does that in any way imply that there is a hat by pinging balpha?
we're simply brainstorming (and testing)
@hichris123 just a guess
remember the hairboat?
yeah, but balpha does hats every year.
You're reading way too far into that.
Conspiracy Theory? Where's my tin foil hat?!
01:38
^ that would be cool
Guessing about secret hats will earn you a secret hat? That's very... meta
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Q: Winter Bash 2015 Secret Hats

EranI just got my first Winter Bash 2015 secret hat, so I decided to start the traditional Secret hats and how to get them spoiler question.

Do we want this?
We do every year... so I guess?
tradition?
What's going on with all these dupe answers
@undo ^ ?
01:49
People rushing to post stuff, probably
Oh, I'm part of the problem there aren't I
Wow, spoiler syntax is tricky
@Quill Deleted my beaten-by-five-seconds dupe
I'm stupid, I should have posted my Archimedes answer from the app
ok cool
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A: Performance - Redrawing a new canvas or changing its css position?

bjb568The best way is either rendering it all yourself on one canvas or using multiple balls and modifying their transform CSS property. It's faster to use transform than top and left. You can do this: function updatePos() { var e = document.getElementsByClassName('ellipse'); for (var i = 0...

So mesmerizing!
Hmmmm. I'm not sure if that is the most performant method
I haven't really kept up with this stuff, but wouldn't it create a redraw event for every one of those modifications to the style property?
It should batch it into doing one of the whole lot every frame.
Not really sure. It's been a while since I looked into how browsers do their thing
I recall best practice a few years back for doing large updates to the DOM is to extract out the elements into a DOM fragment that is detached from the main document, update the elements there, then stick them back into the document again
But that was a few years back, and it's probably out of date
Probably whatever React is doing is what's good these days, although IIRC that's working outside the DOM altogether
React is weird.
Yeah, React is weird
But I did some code in it a while back, and it feels pretty good to write
At least it doesn't make me feel as dirty as Angular does
> The accepted answer is almost correct
no accepted answer @YiJiang stackoverflow.com/a/34057633/792066
Is this a weird userscript thing or can others repro?
@bjb568 favorites?
02:10
@Braiam the x is misaligned
css
user202362
This chat is like a shallow river - only gets flooded when some relevant event takes place :p
@Telkitty Oh I just randomly came here right now. Did a relevant event take place?
Did the universe guide me here because of said event?
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How does the fishing mechanic work? by user132689 on gaming.stackexchange.com
I got a hat. I put it on my butt.
02:12
!!/hats
@bjb568 GO EARN HATS! Winter Bash won't end for 20 days, 21 hours, 47 minutes, and 0 seconds. :D
Where it belongs.
Hey, @Jason, you're RO so put the new year's starfest on the room schedule chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/89/…
I don't know what that is but OK.
Give me a description date and time
And length
If you don't respond in 30 seconds it's Jan 1 midnight utc for 42 minutes, repeating every 365 days until the year 3000, drifting along the way from leap years.
Description: New year's starfest
Time: 6 hours before UTC year change
Length: Whatever, at least 6 hours
02:16
Wtf math
24-6 = ... 12!
Just make me RO and I'll take care of it.
Oops I mean 14.
Let's see, December has 30 days right?
no it has 95
02:17
31
Got it, 32.
so, there's a hat for using all your flags on spam?
Probably not
Jason C has added an event to this room's schedule.
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Done. New Year's Star Fist.
2
Oh wait.
So far it's just me, bjb, and a fist. Gonna be a great year.
2
02:22
Join the star fist! @Braiam @Undo @Smoke @hichris @uni @rene @sha
already did :P
meh
Form thumb and pinky!
To make a star fist we probably need at least five people.
Or maybe that's starfish.
Form index and ring!
And I'll form the middle finger!
GO, STAR FIST!
02:24
Yay!
In mathematics, and more specifically in algebra, a ring is an algebraic structure with operations that generalize the arithmetic operations of addition and multiplication. Through this generalization, theorems from arithmetic are extended to non-numerical objects like polynomials, series, matrices and functions. Rings were first formalized as a common generalization of Dedekind domains that occur in number theory, and of polynomial rings and rings of invariants that occur in algebraic geometry and invariant theory. They are also used in other branches of mathematics such as geometry and mathematical...
me am fingering that
@bjb568 Can I kick you for being a nerd?
user202362
@JasonC SE handing out hats - that's the event :p
What's purple and commutes?
An abelian grape! HA HA HA HA
ur mom
oh, that too
02:27
"Greeter" hat is deadly.
I never get hats for some reason. I got my first one. It doesn't seem to be an exciting one.
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: android Drawerlayout slow by xudong on stackoverflow.com
@Braiam Huh, I don't know why I typed that
Removed/deleted accepted answer?
Doesn't seem so..
No, I probably mistook the highest scored answer for being accepted
Anyway, like I've said his answer is almost correct, but dangerously wrong in that it now causes all 404 error to be responded with 200 status code, which is very bad for crawlers
02:36
hats, hats, hats.
url of a hat image? my dream
Current list of earned secret hats:
> Archimedes
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
Odinson
huhwut
im making a js thing that generates hat names and image next to
cause i found special css file
user260233
@hichris123: how are you retrieving the data? i assume not by hand
@MikeMiller No, simple python script.
I got myself IP banned for it too. :P
(just on the winterbash site though)
user260233
well, who doesn't get ip banned now and then
02:47
data urls reveal amazing things
@hichris123 if you don't throttle that back, you'll find yourself banned from more sites pretty quickly
some1 plz look at data urls with me im terrible at this
@balpha I'll just be running it every hour or so... is 10/sec too fast? 1/sec better or could it be 2/sec, 3/sec?
@Doorhandle In the console when looking at your hats, window.WinterBash.hats.getHatDivToFitInside(4,48,48) replacing 4 with a hat ID, probably a lowish number, yields SVG data in the div.
02:52
@JasonC k thats probably better than looking at data url's in a minn'd css file XD
@hichris123 how many id's you have?
@Braiam ~200 now.
all of them hats?
$('.wb-rack').append(window.WinterBash.hats.getHatDivToFitInside(4,48,48)) will hackily add the hat image to the window for your viewing ease.
@Doorhandle just put this in this javascript console on winterbash2015.stackexchange.com: $(".wb-hatimg").each(function () { this.className = this.className.replace(/stroke-/, ""); })
and bam, you see your "special" css file in action
02:54
I'm guessing that you have to award a bounty to get one of the secret hat..
@Braiam Each is a page number.
It's disappointing to see that there aren't any bounty-related hats. (Which means they are probably secret..)
Also a really weird looking thing appears with invalid hat IDs.
@balpha it is special ;(
hey hey @JasonC maybe we could get happy hour back?
02:55
@JasonC field work?
@JasonC use it on the winterbash promo page :P
getHatDivToFitInside, wow. That's a long variable name.
@hichris123 Happy hour?
@bwDraco It's descriptive. It gets the div for a hat and makes it fit inside something.
Jun 22 '11 at 6:47, by Tim Stone
This is a "Tavern", so we have Happy Hour
02:59
Whoa so many hats.
I will work on making this something viewable.
I guess Friday @ 23:00 UTC?

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