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user163250
Sentences.
 
@Cupcake you can ask him in the Lounge... ;)
 
She probably doesn't want to.
 
Cupcake is male.
 
2:04 PM
El cupcako es muy macho.
 
CS teacher just described a while loop as a video game where the loop keeps running until you push the "quit" button…
 
sd tpu-
 
> My goal is to know enough so that I don't have to constantly put these books away when I'm confronted with something I don't know/understand, then read the missing knowledge up in other books or the internet, and then resume reading - because this fragmented learning is very tiring.
 
@bjb568 hope she got fired by now?
 
2:11 PM
sd gone
 
user202362
0
Q: Is this misogynistic behaviour?

chmod 711 telkittyI am banned for 6 days. Reason is I was stating the truth: http://chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/25839833#25839833 Now look at hard facts these are the comments where the first word got stars, and I just got banned twice for stating the second word. Ok, so I accept that I might brou...

 
@bjb568 Its called break
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica or Exit Do/Exit For in Basic
 
He's learning Basic?
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica no idea, but loop is general concept, cross language :)
 
user163250
2:14 PM
@chmod711telkitty you should probably give more context in your Meta post.
 
user163250
If people don't understand the culture in the Lounge, they'll assume things.
 
user163250
Like, NSFW language and topics are normal in there.
 
user202362
then why the banning?
 
Tempted to reach flags
 
2:17 PM
@chmod711telkitty I'm not familiar with the Lounge either and all my previous comments here are my own common sense based on the little I saw. All in all, it looks like you pulled the string too much, even for the Lounge.
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica Already deleted
 
I saw that, @Uni!!!!
 
Yey
Gone
@ShadowWizard ???
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica your ninja edit
 
2:18 PM
that missing "l"
 
Oh
What about?
 
@CodeCaster Asking Telkitty to not troll is like taking away her reason for being in that room. — Xeo 33 secs ago
 
sd tpu- spam
sd gone
 
sd gone
 
user202362
anyways, off to bed now pass midnight
 
2:37 PM
Bye
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body: iphone repair in regina by adamaris12 on meta.stackexchange.com
 
sd tpu- spam
What's so fun about spamming?
 
user163250
Spamming is a business.
 
user163250
When it's not for business, it's for testing things out for your business.
 
user163250
2:47 PM
Or bragging rights.
 
user163250
Or heck, just to troll.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: Faking an RS232 Serial Port by Jack Fosters on stackoverflow.com
 
user163250
^ why is that blacklisted?
 
2:48 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TAKING 2 LAPTOP TO INDIA FROM SAUDI ARABIA) by PARVEEN on travel.stackexchange.com
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica looks like spam to me
 
Editing travel post
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@durron597 Blacklisted user.
 
user202362
Back already :p Was going to bed but ended up reading some horror. Now I need to 'hang around with people' because this online novel is slightly scary ...
 
2:52 PM
@chmod711telkitty so, you need a virtual hug? ;)
 
user163250
If it's scary, why are you still reading it before going to bed?
 
And I need a bounty
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica nope, can't see any edit of yours
 
user202362
@ShadowWizard yeah, that would be great :p
 
2:53 PM
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica nice!
@chmod711telkitty OK then, you got a virtual hug. :)
 
Hugs @chmod711telkitty
 
@Uni umm.... how exactly you have 103 rep on Travel??
 
user202362
@Cupcake I have a habit of reading horrors before going to bed. I can still sleep. But I am still scared while reading it ... since I am the only one awake and it's past midnight
 
@ShadowWizard From that suggested edit
Approved
Why?
 
user202362
2:54 PM
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica thx :)
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica it still doesn't show in your reputation tab
 
No?
Lemme see
Lol
Caching
Lets call someone to check
Possible spam user:
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: UBUNTU ROOKIE. PLEASE HELP by MAD JR on askubuntu.com
 
@Uni there are thousands of idle accounts without a single post or activity.
All are possible spammers.
 
user259867
2:57 PM
And many are obvious spammers, but not worth digging out, either.
 
(and the last is really not a spammer, did you just post a random account?)
 
From the diploma names, it seems possible
Oh and darn
 
5
Q: Spam accounts - how to handle?

Shadow WizardThere are accounts that present spam in their user profile and have no single post. Two examples: http://stackoverflow.com/users/842515/www-airmaxjordanfusion-com http://stackoverflow.com/users/750706/www-tattoos-nu?tab=stats Obviously their only goal by creating the accounts was to gain Goo...

 
Lost 2 rep
And earned 5 rep
> Also; don't forget you can vote... if somebody is being offensive, vote them as offensive. For most puppet accounts, the penalty (100 points) may be enough to take away much of their access.
Flag you mean?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: What language switchers may you advice? by Jack Fosters on stackoverflow.com
 
user259867
3:01 PM
@ShadowWizard This is one of the users you link to there: stackoverflow.com/users/777651/…
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector Yep, that eltima guy was a spammer... now setting up something.
 
@NormalHuman well, one miss... back when I reported is had only the spammy about me, without a single post.
 
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Q: Is Buckminsterfullerene aromatic or not?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M The $\ce{C60}$ molecule is extremely stable,[26] withstanding high temperatures and high pressures. The exposed surface of the structure can selectively react with other species while maintaining the spherical geometry.[27] Atoms and small molecules can be trapped within the molecule without r...

Nice name
 
3:31 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO GET AND PARSE THE RESPONSE FROM JSONP? by Satyavrat on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Memory loss is one of the most common problem by stonejoseph on drupal.stackexchange.com
 
sd trueu-
Watch it, folks. This spammer is using *.joomla.com, a clear attempt at Bayesian poisoning.
 
user163250
@DragonLordtheFiery wow, didn't know that that's a thing.
 
user163250
Spamming is getting super-fancy nowadays :P
 
@Cupcake More instances of sneaky spam:
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Q: How do we identify and respond to "linkless spam"?

DragonLordRecently, I've noticed a trend towards spam postings that are free of any external link but advertise a product without disclosure. These techniques evade normal spam detection mechanisms and techniques by eliminating the link and relying on the reader to search for the program in question, but a...

7
Q: Circumventing spam filters (and deceiving reviewers) by taking part of a legitimate post and adding a spam link--possible solutions?

DragonLordUsers have found a way to circumvent spam filters and deceive reviewers with less-than-keen eyes for spam, by copying part of a legitimate post and adding a spam link. Can we better control this kind of spam? What possible solutions could be implemented to control this type of spam? An example...

 
user163250
@DragonLordtheFiery do the devs know about these new detection-evasion techniques?
 
3:45 PM
Don't know, but they're probably aware about it.
Sockpuppets, too.
Apowersoft and Tenorshare were two spam rings I had identified a while back.
 
@UnitedStatesOfAmerica It's a while loop, you don't really need break.
 
Some of these spammers use lots of different URLs to circumvent spam filtering.
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Q: Defeat spam filter evasion through the use of many different domains by blacklisting target IP addresses of links

DragonLord the FieryIn my extensive experience fighting spam on Super User, I've noticed that spammers often use many different domains to evade detection. In several cases, I've found that the domains often resolve to one or a few IP addresses, which are used exclusively by a particular spammer or spam campaign. An...

 
@bjb568 Sometimes you want to break. What if you have while True:?
 
@Andy while (foobar) { if something { foobar = false; } }, though break is easier of course.
 
Spammers often use confusing domain names to throw off human reviewers.
Feb 24 at 23:08, by Doorknob
Why is screenshot.net blacklisted?
Believe it or not, this site is operated by Apowersoft, a known spammer.
 
3:58 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SPLITTING OF MULTIPLE ROWS by Harish on stackoverflow.com
 
Today's xkcd comic (Travel Ghost):
 
user163250
@xkcdBot O.M.G.
 
user163250
Someone made a bot for this?
 
user163250
That's hilarious!
 
4:01 PM
Yup, @AstroCB did.
 
@Andy sure, but it's more common with for
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: Sub-domain javascript issue by Nannys boi on stackoverflow.com
 
user163250
!!/status
 
@Cupcake Running since 14:51:41 UTC (76 minutes)
 
user163250
!!/help
 
4:08 PM
@Cupcake I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and low-quality posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
 
user163250
!!/blame
 
@Cupcake It's bjb568's fault.
 
Hey!
 
user163250
SD says so, so it must be true.
 
4:10 PM
@DragonLordtheFiery It's Tunaki's fault.
 
@Tunaki?
 
@DragonLordtheFiery The list also contains people from the SO Close Vote Reviewers room.
 
oh
 
4:11 PM
Why?
 
Why? Because Smokey runs there too.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Scrypt + Bcrypt = cascade hashing by Alexie Hannah Montana on security.stackexchange.com
 
sd trueu-
User has posted multiple offensive answers.
Somebody needs to protect the question.
sd false-
 
user163250
@DragonLordtheFiery question gets auto-protected as soon as the answers are deleted (if I recall correctly), so just keep flagging as offensive, not-an-answer, etc.
 
4:17 PM
4 flags left on Information Security.
 
@SmokeDetector Why was that even edited...
 
@ProgramFOX There is no why data for that post (anymore).
 
Eh. I didn't ask that. :P
 
@Begueradj: Please don't edit nonsense posts. Just flag them. — DragonLord 6 secs ago
User's probably answer-banned by now, which should halt the nonsense.
 
user163250
why
 
user163250
4:23 PM
SD why
 
@Cupcake [:3987837] Body - Position 1376-1381: Nike
 
user163250
"Nike" is a bad word? lol
 
sd - false-
@Cupcake It's widely spammed.
 
user163250
Makes sense.
 
4:45 PM
I haven't seen a true positive nike post in quite some time. Thoughts @ProgramFOX @NormalHuman?
 
@durron597 I raised a similar thought a few months ago, but that was rejected for a reason I cannot remember.
 
Metasmoke needs 'why' data.
 
@Undo Hey is Firestorm being actively maintained?
 
@durron597 No
But it can be
 
I tried to use it today but I had one bug and one feature request in the first 5 minutes thirty seconds so I gave up
 
4:57 PM
@durron597 What are they?
 
Bug: I couldn't delete a row from tabular data
 
kk
 
Feature request: I couldn't get links to auto-render as links, in either the summary or the data field
 
Ah, that's probably because they're escaped.
I'll try to look into that at some point... sometime... maybe :)
I wonder if anyone's ever used it
 
It doesn't make a moderator's life easier if I give them 8 links and they don't render as links
 
4:58 PM
So mods can see who flagged something after all, no? CC @Undo
 
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M They definitely can on Stack Overflow
 
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M In the dashboard? We've always been able to
 
Except comments.
 
So guess why all my stupid flags were helpful.
Oh!
 
5:02 PM
 
word boundaries
 
@ProgramFOX I figured
 
Yup
 
Don't know if that implies we should change anything or not, just throught I'd mention. That is NAA anyway, but not offensive (I suppose)
 
5:11 PM
@durron597 Once, I removed the word boundaries, and tons of FPs came in, so we shouldn't.
 
@ProgramFOX i suppose that one itself is an FP.
 
@hichris123 is this your website? hichris.erwaysoftware.com/closegraph.php it seems to be down
 
5:26 PM
@gunr2171 It must be his.
Because I remember Erway from somewhere.
 
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M most of the charcoal stuff is hosted there
 
If I recall correctly it tunnels through a server hosted by @Undo so may be he flipped the wrong switch
 
user259867
5:57 PM
@durron597 I tried something which should help keep those fps down. My recollection is that nike spam was in pretty short answers, and baba was near the beginning of spam posts.
 
user259867
Been a long time since we saw either, that's for sure.
 
BRB going to spam with a very long answer that contains nike and baba in the end.
 
user259867
And hichris.erwaysoftware.com redirects to medstarhealth.org/#q={} ?
 
user259867
Med spammers strike back.
 
@NormalHuman I think we should take them both out.
 
6:10 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: JavaScript on sub-domain issue by Nannys boi on stackoverflow.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Python: How do i sort Names in a text file alphabetically? by flyingpython on stackoverflow.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector Hm. I didn't think the earlier post was spam. I flagged to close that one as no MCVE.
 
@durron597 User removed from blacklist (5360021 on stackoverflow.com).
 
but now fixed
 
user259867
And spam-flagged to deletion? The trigger may be getting too light.
 
user259867
6:15 PM
Sorry, I see it wasn't. Deleted normally.
 
user259867
It should be understood that spam-seeding websites are also built by someone, who may well have questions about the process.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ASP.NET 3.5 URL ROUTING NOT WORKING by user983854 on stackoverflow.com
 
@rene Not my fault, I just own the domain and run DNS ;)
 
Ok, we blame @hichris123
 
user259867
I see, hichris turned to the dark side of spamming, stopped tracking the close queue and began promoting some MED-8880 site
 
6:27 PM
You never know when it gets to you . . .
 
user259867
6:45 PM
@SmokeDetector fp- lol
 
user259867
@durron597 Perhaps, but now that they've been narrowed down, let's first see if this helps with the fp/tp ratio. Nike did help to find some non-obvious answer spam in recent months.
 
Interesting tags that the University of Illinois stuck on this careers job: careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/98098/…
 
user163250
This guy...really needs help with how to ask a good programming question...
 
user163250
0
Q: JavaScript on sub-domain issue

Nannys boiI have JavaScript on my site which works fine on my original site, but as soon as it's implemented on a subdomain it dosen't work I thought first that I had to move the JavaScript to the subdomain instead of hosting it on the domain, and so I did but still no result same issue appeared " Unexpec...

 
user259867
> About University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

> Marist College is an independent and comprehensive liberal arts institution located in New York''s historic Hudson River Valley. Situated on 210 acres overlooking the Hudson River, it enrolls 4,787 traditional undergraduate, 799 full and part-time g
 
6:53 PM
@Cupcake I'm doing my best...
 
user259867
From the bottom of that ad.
 
@Normal does math.SE load the upgreek package with mathjax?
 
user163250
@rene I know, I was reading the comments ;)
 
@NormalHuman Ahahahaha. I didn't read the disclaimer at the bottom.
 
user163250
It's like...he just doesn't get it.
 
user259867
6:54 PM
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M No, to the best of my knowledge. You could test it in an answer box, you don't need to post to see what MathJax does.
 
user163250
He needs to learn how to use a basic debugger in Chrome or Firefox:
 
user163250
@rene If i knew where the problem was i knew what part of the code i should add. — Nannys boi 7 mins ago
 
@NormalHuman It doesn't.
Then how do you type pi?
 
user163250
If only there were guides online that he could google! Oh wait...
 
I linked them to the dev console guidance
that is about it
 
6:57 PM
ln /dev/console ./guidance
 
user259867
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M $\pi$
 
@NormalHuman But that isn't the correct typesetting! It shouldn't be slanted.
 
OPT-p gives me π.
 
Alright, now I'm puzzled.
 
‭ 𝚷  1D6B7	MATHEMATICAL BOLD CAPITAL PI
‭ 𝛑  1D6D1	MATHEMATICAL BOLD SMALL PI
‭ 𝛡  1D6E1	MATHEMATICAL BOLD PI SYMBOL
‭ 𝛱  1D6F1	MATHEMATICAL ITALIC CAPITAL PI
‭ 𝜋  1D70B	MATHEMATICAL ITALIC SMALL PI
‭ 𝜛  1D71B	MATHEMATICAL ITALIC PI SYMBOL
‭ 𝜫  1D72B	MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC CAPITAL PI
‭ 𝝅  1D745	MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC SMALL PI
‭ 𝝕  1D755	MATHEMATICAL BOLD ITALIC PI SYMBOL
‭ 𝝥  1D765	MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD CAPITAL PI
‭ 𝝿  1D77F	MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD SMALL PI
‭ 𝞏  1D78F	MATHEMATICAL SANS-SERIF BOLD PI SYMBOL
 
7:00 PM
Should I post on meta.chem or meta.SE that we need upgreek loaded with mathjax?
 
user163250
@Andy obviously posted by a non-developer who's never used Careers before.
 
@tchrist You live in a beautiful complex world wherein everything looks like cute tiny question marks to me.
 
@Cupcake I've seen UofI postings. Must be someone new. Or it's outsourced, based on that disclaimer at the bottom.
 
dispenses wooden nickels
 
@Normal @TCh should I go with our small meta or the big meta asking for the upgreek package? Or maybe even meta.math?
It does relate to more than one site.
 
user163250
7:03 PM
@Andy too bad people can't comment on job postings for improvements like they can on SO :P
 
user259867
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M The pi I see is the pi I expect to see in a math text. Compared with a book just now.
 
user259867
If it's not good enough for chem.se, post there.
 
@Cupcake Eh, I made a meta post asking if the disclaimer had been attached to the wrong post. If not, maybe one of the careers sales people can reach out to get it fixed and do a bit of training anyway.
 
user259867
Grab a screenshot for demonstration of what it is and what you want it to be.
 
@NormalHuman Weird. That means the book typesetters have acted rashly.
Then again, there are too many rash typesetters these days.
Neither pi, nor e should be slanted.
 
user163250
7:05 PM
@Andy OH, that's for an entirely different college! I see now!
 
user163250
Wow. Just...wow.
 
user259867
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M That's your personal preference. In 100% of math books and papers e is slanted.
 
user259867
Could be 100 within some rounding error.
 
@NormalHuman Hmm, I might be wrong about e, but not about pi.
 
user163250
No one noticed that there was something off with this answer?:
 
user163250
7:14 PM
 
@Normal just checked: pi and the base of the natural logarithm should be upright, not slanted.
 
@Cupcake typical Islam SE
 
user259867
sigh And people should drive on the right side of the road.
 
In fact, all of the constants should be slanted to be distinguishable from variables.
 
user259867
Unless they live in a country with the opposite custom.
 
7:17 PM
Well, you convinced me that it's chem's meta, not the big meta.
 
user163250
@bjb568 apparently. I've seen some Meta Islam SE posts that Shog answered that appeared to show that it was having a lot of problems.
 
So there are countries where italic is the default and roman is the exception?
 
@tchrist LaTeX math mode is one such country.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CAN VOLT BE DECREASED AND AMPERE BE INCREASED by Skeleton Man on electronics.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
0
Q: support hope this gets to you

Micheal Headjust trying to say thanks for help,i will find out how to get around this site better so hope my replies got through,(fat fingers?) Ok its late here,3hrs till work gotta go thanks again. bye4now.

 
user259867
7:27 PM
Many things on Android Enthusiasts can be explained by fat fingers.
 
@NormalHuman ROFL
 
user259867
7:44 PM
> This is in progress. Shog9 has been making some huge strides - to the point that feasibility is a rapidly-diminishing question. I'll continue to update this post as we go. meta.stackexchange.com/a/263777
 
user259867
I've been wondering what he is up to, given low visible activity on the sites.
 
8:14 PM
@NormalHuman Oh right. @Undo you can probably remove the DNS record for now... I kinda had to shut down my EC2 instance & haven't brought it back up yet.
So it's some random EC2 instance right now that happened to be assigned that IP.
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector ignore- "again more slowly please"
 
user259867
Math reached 1M weekly uniques for the first time last week.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, email in answer: Person desperate for loan or desperate person for loan? by Asep Apipudin on ell.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
8:30 PM
@SmokeDetector tpu-
 
@hichris123 Heh, okay :)
Done
@SmokeDetector still alive
 
@SmokeDetector Protected by community just now.
 
user259867
Such is the fate of every question with "loan" in the title, regardless of its actual subject.
 
8:45 PM
8
Q: Can we raise the bar for reputation for late answers to enter the review queue?

durron597I would like to raise the bar for late answers to enter the Late Answers Review Queue to 50 rep, which is the threshold after which users gain the ability to comment. Here are some answers that were posted by users with between 10 to 50 rep (yes, there's a little selection bias to be sure. I susp...

@Durron @Durron @Durron, still trying to add some functionality to the review queues; they'll surprise you at some point. ;)
 
8:56 PM
@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M hm?
 
9:11 PM
In case a dev drops in here:
4
Q: SEDE site has incorrect SO Icon

JonHThe stack exchange data explorer has the old SO icon. Looks like the unicorn forgot the bar on this site.

 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY ESP8266? by razu on arduino.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@rene ... and blames caching? The link to the image is cdn.sstatic.net/stackoverflow/img/apple-touch-icon.png
 
user259867
So there is nothing to be done on the SEDE side.
 
Are you sure?
It is the icon on the main page
 
user259867
Yes, that's where I looked at it. Right-click, open image in new tab. Hit Refresh if necessary.
 
9:16 PM
@Cupcake You have no idea.
!xkcd help
 
Usage: !xkcd [command][ params( optional params)]
about – Get information about xkcdBot.
find [searchTerms] – Search for xkcd comics with Google (100 queries/day).
[comic ID] – Post oneboxed comic.
last – Onebox most recent xkcd.
blame( [user]) – Find out who's to blame for your maladies.
owner – Find out who owns xkcdBot.
status – Get xkcdBot's status.
 
user259867
!xkcd 1348
 
user259867
And then we wonder why Oracle can copyright Java API.
 
user259867
9:21 PM
@bjb568 By the way, this is why Smokey privilege is unlikely. Giving it to a user running an undocumented bot with occasional undesirable behavior seems imprudent.
9
 
user202362
9:54 PM
I feel like a heroin addict on a forced rehab - maybe after the chat suspension I would kick the habit of going there. I mean I could evade bans, but that takes effort and is childish and of little point and I have more important things to do.
 
alexus, New York, United States
99 1
Why do I occasionally see a user with this avatar who posts something annoying?
 
user202362
maybe you are allergic to minions?
 
Maybe minions are allergic to writing something useful on meta?
Maybe.
 

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