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16:00

Today's xkcd comic (Tamagotchi Hive):

The Singularity happened, but not to us.

bummi

one or two more needed here: travel.stackexchange.com/a/50519/8105

hichris123

poof

UniKitty

@bummi I'm late by 20 seconds

bummi

gone, fine, but the problem IMHO are these questions :/

user259867

That question seems reasonable. And now that it's protected, shouldn't be a spam target anymore.

Tiny Giant

16:05

I do not like it that people here just think in terms of the rules, and there are so maaaany rules. This kind of thinking makes the community seem very hostile. It will be better to relax the rules, in terms of thinking if something is helpful or not. Bad quality content can be anyway signaled by down votes, which are more democratic. — bosonix 7 mins ago

Then find somewhere else to ask your questions?

UniKitty

Hey! Have a free hotel for ever! Go to x.y.z.com now!

user259867

Actually, I see it may have been a plot to plant a promotional answer, but the end result isn't bad.

UniKitty

We can still spam chat :P

Andy

@UniKitty Do it. Let's see what happens

UniKitty

@Andy jokez

SPArchaeologist

16:07

Bye Tavern. See you later.

UniKitty

Bye

bummi

Bye

Tiny Giant

Bye

One more close vote on that question

And done

UniKitty

Wut question

Tiny Giant

@TinyGiant that one

UniKitty

16:13

@TinyGiant why do you hide all your communities?

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

UniKitty

stackexchange.com/users/268821/tiny-giant?tab=accounts

nicael

@UniKitty Because they want so?

Tiny Giant

For the same reason I don't include any personal information in my profile

It's not that I don't trust you, I just don't trust anyone

And therefore I obfuscate where I can

UniKitty

you know what mods do

SmokeDetector

16:14

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO BAKE AND RENDER by Che Lio Vincey on blender.stackexchange.com

Tiny Giant

@UniKitty What do you mean by that?

UniKitty

They view your profile info and that private stuff

Tiny Giant

Yeah, that's why I obfuscate where I can if I can't then I can't

nicael

@UniKitty So what? @TinyGiant hides as much as they can.

user259867

@SmokeDetector edit suggested

UniKitty

16:16

@nicael I puy 1920

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

Tiny Giant

My facebook profile is only viewable by me :)

UniKitty

@TinyGiant hackz

Tiny Giant

No, just settings that are openly available. When in doubt, hide it.

UniKitty

Hackz your profile

Tiny Giant

16:18

What do you mean?

UniKitty

View da private info

nicael

@TinyGiant I don't have Facebook profile, that's more secure :P

UniKitty

@nicael yay

Tiny Giant

@nicael I only have it to lurk other peoples pages.

UniKitty

Bye @DroidDev

nicael

16:20

Btw, now we can ping @DroidDev.

The Ultimate Ping Revenge Attack

Jun 11 at 21:40, 1 hour 19 minutes total – 200 messages, 1 user, 0 stars

Bookmarked Jun 11 at 23:01 by Shadow Wizard

Tiny Giant

And it isn't under my real name, and I don't have a profile picture

bjb568

> 200 messages, 1 user, 0 stars

so lonely…

Tiny Giant

Lulz

UniKitty

bye

bjb568

Bye!

Tiny Giant

16:22

Bye

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

Tiny Giant

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31210850/4639281 (duplicate) of stackoverflow.com/q/10143093/4639281

I'm all out of CV's

nicael

voted

Tiny Giant

Thanks

nicael

Just by the way, working on the similar issues currently

Tiny Giant

16:35

I'm all out of everything but reopen votes

The same issue as that question?

nicael

Yes; switched to jsonp, trying to get it to work properly :D

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Calling method wrong by Home-owner on stackoverflow.com

Tiny Giant

Ahhh.

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

Tiny Giant

I haz nothing to review....

And the H&I one lies, theres nothing in there

user259867

16:39

@TinyGiant Try the other 144 sites...

Tiny Giant

I can't review on any of them yet

Doorknob

fix that

bjb568

@TinyGiant Go to the regex tag page or something

Doorknob

Starting with Programming Puzzles & Code Golf :P

Tiny Giant

@Doorknob That one actually looks fun.

Doorknob

16:42

:D

bjb568

16:53

:D

nicael

:D

Tiny Giant

:D

Doorknob

> A Software developer with a big hungry of knowledge

3

o.o

Tiny Giant

But a small hungry of grammar?

2

bjb568

What about grammar knowledge?

Tiny Giant

17:11

What about knowledge of hungry?

Doorknob

What is it with people using edit comments of "improved formatting" when the edit had nothing to do with formatting?

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/8673324

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/8673326

user259867

Abstractly, I think a bad edit summary is not a reason to reject an edit that is otherwise good.

Tiny Giant

But a bad edit with a bad edit summary is a good reason to reject it.

Doorknob

If your edit summary is "formatting" and I can see at a glance that your edit has nothing to do with formatting, I'm not going to spend the effort to figure out what the edit was really for.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Correlation between speed, distance, mass, etc between a planet and a star (or moon and planet)? by vishakh on physics.stackexchange.com

Tiny Giant

17:18

@HansPassant Your avatar is orange, did you make it that way to offend everybody's eyeballs? — Tiny Giant 1 min ago

Comments taken out of context can be pretty funny

But apparently that was the reasoning behind the orange avatar

DroidDev

@UniKitty Bye :P

@nicael haha, you reminded me to check my revenge list. Thanks ;)

bjb568

17:34

@Doorknob So good reviewers know to automatically reject it.

Nobody ever made a good edit with "improved formatting".

Except maybe the 50 of those that I approved :p

Tiny Giant

I have, but it was usually "Improved formatting, clarified question, improved grammar and spelling"

user259867

@bjb568 This was an excellent edit

bjb568

That's not improved formatting verbatim. It's also not on SO.

Doorknob

reject-plz stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/8673255

Tiny Giant

I would, but haz no votes

user259867

17:40

Rejected

Tiny Giant

Anyways, I'm actually going to do some work today. Have fun :)

Andy

Yeah, those look completely accurate

Doorknob

O_o

bjb568

o_o

Doorknob

At least mine look right.

Dronehinge

17:41

@Andy congrats, you win

Andy

\o/

user259867

100% rejection rate is good. I only got 2000 recently.

bjb568

I didn't review properly at first.

Dronehinge

it's funny how long it takes for suggested edits to be approved on meta.SE

nicael

18:05

0

Q: Problem in “Your post appears to contain code that is not properly formatted as code”

Ive the next question and when trying to post appears the message "Your post appears to contain code that is not properly formatted as code" . I dont know which part is missing the "formatting code" advice.. some help is very appreciated: Im reading the incredible book “a programmer's guide to j...

Any ideas here?..

When I paste this in the editor (on Stack Overflow), it doesn't give any errors regarding the code... — nicael 2 mins ago

Is it rep-related though?

bummi

blacklist candidate volumeproducts.com

!!/report askubuntu.com/q/644141/184892

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Hair Volume Products? by Volume Products on askubuntu.com

Dronehinge

is this query right? it really takes over an hour on average on SO?

user259867

That doesn't surprise me. (I was submitting edits not that long ago)

rene

seems right to me. The query is OK

remember that although there are enough reviewers, they are not given the same task, there is a threshold from I believe 10 minutes

Dronehinge

18:20

@1999 looks like 2012 and 2013 were bad years for it data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/331891/test

27 minutes average currently

lots of robo reviewers in 2014

SmokeDetector

18:33

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ERRO CONEXÃO AJAX COM DATASNAP by Furlan on pt.stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

18:53

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Recommended setup for F5 with multiple EXIM servers behind by Tru64Gurus on serverfault.com

ProgramFOX

I'm one day off and I'm buried under loads of pings O_o

Tiny Giant

Jan Dvorak

@ProgramFOX all of them relevant, aren't they?

ProgramFOX

@JanDvorak For once, they are :P

Tiny Giant

StackExchange is not defined...

AstroCB

19:16

^ Accompanying image on that page.

For context.

nicael

Yeah, I've seen that too :)

looks at the annoying "Nicael, the breaker of things" on the star wall

rene

Thanks for pointing that one out

Tiny Giant

How can we migrate something to codereview?

rene

A custom flag

but you need to be 100% sure that it will fly there

nicael

@rene o.0

rene

19:31

@TinyGiant Safer is to ask the OP to check on their meta and then ask to repost and delete

Tiny Giant

K thanks

nicael

@rene not if the question has answers already.

rene

@nicael I like your answer that was my initial thought as well ;)

Santa Claus

rene

@nicael that is true

Santa Claus

19:34

I've approved and rejected 0 edit suggestions!

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/8674252

rene

blame caching

and the off-by-random stats calculation batch

nicael

@rene resists the urge to undelete it to get shiny 10 repz back

SmokeDetector

19:50

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Buggy implementation of reflected radiation engineering simlulation by jodear23847 on stackoverflow.com

user259867

Interesting question: How to write with two hands simultaneously? by Abinash Chakraborty on productivity.stackexchange.com Wonder how this would work when coding.

user259867

One hand writes HTML, the other CSS...

rene

@SmokeDetector ignore- trainwreck

@1999 does it matter if you do CSS left and HTML right?

or the other way around

user259867

There is usually more HTML, so that one should be the dominant hand, whichever that is.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What is Sauron saying when Galadriel defeats him at Dol Guldur? by user1983877 on movies.stackexchange.com

user259867

20:02

@SmokeDetector ignore- VLQ? if unsourced

rene

@1999 doesn't it also relate to if the task is better suited for the left-side or the right-side of your brain?

user259867

Possibly, there should be Cognitive Sciences study of this.

user259867

20:29

user259867

Google has a peculiar idea of "new".

Undo

boise.craigslist.org/sys/5103881178.html

user259867

> Version: 0.1.18
> Updated: June 9, 2014

Undo

This guy has a 500GHz processor.

user259867

Good value. Get it.

Undo

20:30

I so want to be able to edit stuff on craigslist.

Maybe if I make 2,000 purchases.

Hobo Sapiens

cv-pls has to be the worst question I have seen today: stackoverflow.com/q/31213718/1864610

Undo

Oh, tried Google Cardboard today (cc @hichris123). I'm still a little disoriented.

user259867

@HoboSapiens Perhaps you haven't seen this one: What are the easiest and best web scraping tool for non-technical people? by hogants on stackoverflow.com

Undo

Although it's cool for the first forty-five seconds

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/31213709/1849664

^ SPAM

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: What's the best way to have Indeed.com scrape a jobs site? by wardadu on stackoverflow.com

Undo

20:33

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/31213675/1849664

^ SPAM

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How complicated is it to scrape web pages with C++? by wardadu on stackoverflow.com

Undo

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/31213828/1849664

^ SPAM

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: What tools are available to collect data online? by hindaz on stackoverflow.com

Undo

Everything on stackoverflow.com/search?q=url%3Aeasydatafeed can go.

user259867

@Undo You can edit "report" to say SPAM:, btw. Saves a line.

Undo

20:35

Really?

SPAM: stackoverflow.com/questions/31123596#31213242

oh it's gone

user259867

Sad thing: those questions had my dvs and closeflags from a few days ago...

Shadow Wizard

@bjb568 revenge is hard thing to do properly... I trust only myself to do that! :D

hichris123

@Undo ooh

never tried it.

Undo

@hichris123 It's neat, but there's enough lag that your brain notices it and says "SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT HERE blaaaaaarg"

hichris123

I currently have pine sap on me.

4

rene

20:43

Some things are better kept private...

Undo

I'm feeling sorry for @hichris123's keyboard.

user259867

Recently added seeds: How can one web-scrape a list of stars for further processing? and How advanced can web scraping or data mining be?.

nicael

You mean, spam-flag them?

hichris123

@rene You don't have to pick up pinecones in the Netherlands? I envy you.

@Undo It's only the back of my hands, so I'm not worried.

Undo

Wait, you type with the front of your hands? Weird.

user259867

20:48

All easydatafeed answers are gone now, but I wonder why they were not reported. Did the spammers get lucky in that none of the questions were picked for the realtime tab?

hichris123

@Undo I type with my fingers.

user259867

Jun 26 at 2:42, by Braiam

@Doorknob that's what a giant spider would say

Undo

Very interesting.

bjb568

Yes, very.

hichris123

@1999 ...

Undo

20:57

2

Q: Election vote-counting, result-posting chatbot

In preparation for the end of Code Review's 2015 election, I've built a simple bot to get the election votes, run OpenSTV on them, and post the result to a chatroom. I'm using this Python implementation of STV and ManishEarth's ChatExchange. The code: import getpass import logging import os imp...

python

The latest in split-second vote counting automation

user259867

21:39

@SmokeDetector fp-

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in body: solve nonlinear equations with NDSolve by Ali on mathematica.stackexchange.com

user259867

21:55

@SmokeDetector fp-

Braiam

@1999 that's why I don't use either "new", "recent" or "latest" in any hardcoded string

user259867

The odd thing is that this message is new, in the sense it wasn't there yesterday, or at any recent time that I looked at the chrome://extensions page (and I go there a lot).

Braiam

I've seen it since ~39 of Chromium...

Tim Stone

@Undo Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. We should add that to the elections site...

TO THE TODO LIST!

Braiam

wc -l TODO.txt?

Undo

22:00

@TimStone Hardest thing would be timing it right

Tim Stone

That shouldn't be too hard.

Since we can determine the offset from the server's time and then schedule appropriately.

Doorknob

@bjb568:

5

Braiam

that one in the corner

AstroCB

@Undo More bots!

nicael

@Doorknob lol, but doesn't it hurt them?

Braiam

22:13

@nicael no, is akin to push them down....

bjb568

:o

2

user259867

22:36

Two more lowercase scrapy seeds: Can social networks be scraped for data? by earlybu and How does Google do web scraping for collecting data for its indexes? How does it work? by nickieg

nicael

I'm new to github and accidentally forked the SE blog to github.com/nicael/blog how would I go about removing this copy?

Doorknob

In the Settings?

nicael

I went to the settings/repositories, what's the next step? @Doorknob

Doorknob

... click "Delete"?

nicael

Can't find it...

Doorknob

22:41

nicael

Thanks, I found it. First I went to the account settings.

user259867

Deleting the account works too.

bjb568

…

nicael

...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SUGGESTION ABOUT PRAKIM CHART by user9710 on judaism.stackexchange.com

bjb568

22:47

Rly?

ace

Hello guys
Assuming you guys remember [Ispirer SQLWays Migrations](http://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/274892/3488231), do you think [this](http://stackoverflow.com/a/31113466/3488231) could be a spam?

user259867

Not conclusive; I think there's a case for flagging as NAA.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: It is legal if company asks for scans of my Credit Card? by clarisse on money.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu- spam

AstroCB

> thank you cyberleague.

Doorknob

22:51

yes :p

ace

Why didn't my previous one work then? confused

Doorknob

Multiline chat messages and markdown hate each other.

Just... don't put newlines in chat messages.

ace

I see. Thanks

bjb568

Works on DD.

How…

Doorknob

quite the typo

bjb568

22:53

Auto carrot…

Undo

Doorknob

@Undo What RAM is the best color for hacking IP addresses in the cloud?

3

Undo

It must be good because it's cloud.

I'm going to start leaving comments on spam, just because I can.

Actually, I should send them an email.

And see what happens

Doorknob

ask them my message ^^^^^ verbatim

:P

Undo

goes to create new address on @erwaysoftware.com

This is why having your own domain is awesome

Doorknob

23:01

creates [email protected]

Undo

oh crap

hides

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Bank balance for getting a Schengen visa? by help on travel.stackexchange.com

Undo

^ naa

Doorknob

> engouhg

There's a spelling I haven't seen before.

Undo

4

@Doorknob ^

Doorknob

23:07

ahahaha :D

nicael

> tank you

:D

Undo

Oh I forgot to tell them that the helpful guy from Money SE sent me

The hacker service hasn't responded yet. I WANT BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE

hichris123

@Undo Please tell me you sent that from your non-primary email address.

Undo

@hichris123 Oh yes. I'm not that dumb

Doorknob

13 mins ago, by Undo

goes to create new address on @erwaysoftware.com

hichris123

23:13

phew

Undo

actually, it's from a different domain I happen to own.

Anyway, what's the worst that could happen?

Doorknob

Now you get to see how much spam that address accumulates. :P

Undo

I should set up a special email account and make a new blog. "Conversations with Spammers"

user259867

One more scraping question: How do I create a web-based bot/script that can login, scrape data and post content to a website? by franeea

ace

I think this suggested edit should not be approved but the approver seems to think otherwise. Thoughts?

tchrist

23:26

Is this spam or simply inappropriate?

Doorknob

@tchrist nope, not spam

tchrist

What is it?

Doorknob

@ace Hm, I would probably have rejected that too.

tchrist

It seems to be not-selling things.

As opposed to spam selling them.

Doorknob

@tchrist rude or abusive

(specifically, abusive)

tchrist

23:27

But I can’t take meds or hails of it.

user259867

Yeah, let's try that.

tchrist

Ok, I should have a spare flag or two ready for it. :)

user259867

It's an equivalent of some not particularly sane person shouting on a street about the evils of X, Y and Z aspects of modern life.

user259867

We got plenty of those around here, and flagging them is more difficult.

tchrist

We used to call such folks cranks.

And perhaps one still does; I don’t know.

I’ve certainly seen plenty of rants before, but this is completely divorced from any context related to the site it was posted to. Or at least, I’ve not noticed as many of them as rants that have at least something to do with the site, its content, or SE in general. This is as you said.

ace

23:31

@Doorknob Is there anything I can do about this (except commenting on the post, which I already did)? I don't have 2k rep on SO.

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

Doorknob

@ace Not really. You could custom flag it but it's really pretty minor.

ace

Ok then. I'll just leave it. Thanks.

tchrist

Oh good, Yoichi nuked it.

nicael

0

A: Are there RSS feeds for the different channels/sub-sections in the new blog?

There are no other feeds currently. You can see it by going there (the blog is open-source).

I hope that's right. Also looked in the index.XML and didn't find any variations.

ace

23:49

This is NAA but I ran out of flags for today.

Undo

flagged

ace

thanks

nicael

@ace today ends in nine mins :)

ace

@nicael Yes but I feel bad clicking that "I'm done" button in review after only a downvote.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title, title has only one unique char: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa by ramon on electronics.stackexchange.com

ace

23:55

Where is that one unique char?

The Ultimate Ping Revenge Attack

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