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Shadow Wizard

14:04

@nicael don't you already have a dedicated test room? Why yet another one??

nicael

@ShadowWizard You're talking about the very last room? That was another test, the room creation was tested. I was testing something related to my last post.

Shadow Wizard

what, bot to auto create rooms?

user259867

Somebody, I mean somebody is getting me a new mouse. The left button is completely worn out. — Tim Post ♦ Mar 15 '11 at 8:07

user259867

Probably contributed to RSI, too. Fun and games of 2011...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CODEIGNITOR REST API AND PHONEGAP by Richard Otabil on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body: Ubuntu 14.04 on is not booting, bootmgr is missing, press ctrl + alt + del to restart by Osama Salama on askubuntu.com

Kevin Brown

14:21

@SmokeDetector ignore- but it needs some serious editing

Jan Dvorak

I'd say VLQ, but where's the blacklisted website?

UniKitty

@KevinBrown done already

Jan Dvorak

also, o/

SouravGhosh

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/31118003/2173917

Jan Dvorak

@SouravGhosh gone

Kevin Brown

14:22

@JanDvorak Most likely "repair" triggered it somehow, specifically the email [email protected]

UniKitty

@SouravGhosh Flagged as "User is lazy to run code"

Jan Dvorak

@UniKitty no need for a custom flag, is there?

UniKitty

@JanDvorak He can just compile and run

Jan Dvorak

observation: multiple 0-scored answers are not sufficient to prevent self-deletion

UniKitty

@JanDvorak Dunno but found email "[email protected]"

Jan Dvorak

14:25

@UniKitty given the answer - the code result may vary over time. Also, a specific value may not always be as interesting as the way it has been obtained

UniKitty

Well nevermind I can't see it anymore. Useless arguing with a blind man(me!)

nicael

-4

Q: Terrible issue with the StackOverflow rainbow icon

Well, I love the icon it's nice to see some extra colour on it (I won't delve into the debate because I'm not raising anything about that :)). However much to my horror it seems there's a terrible mistake. I just off the phone with the grammar police and they have some deep concerns over the too...

bug

SouravGhosh

@UniKitty Yeah, a DV or CV would have suffice, Thanks anyway, it's gone now. :-)

UniKitty

@SouravGhosh I can't vote

SouravGhosh

@UniKitty It's gone, deleted by OP.

@UniKitty Ahh, I see.

Undo

14:32

> Attention: some of your recent flags have been declined - please review them before flagging this post!

Can I just be exempt from this thing?

UniKitty

@Undo no

SouravGhosh

@Undo If you application is processed, let me know :-)

Jan Dvorak

@Undo you can write a userscript and have the second threshold be a mystery

Kevin Brown

@Undo Custom CSS helps a lot.

Jan Dvorak

a sword of Damocles, so to say

SouravGhosh

14:33

@Undo I'll be the very next person to apply. :-)

Undo

.flag-quality-warning {
    display: none;
}

I win

Doorknob

@Undo And what makes you such a flawless flagger? :P

Undo

@Doorknob exactly two declined flags in my last 150

One of them a borderline sockpuppet case that I somehow got wrong

Doorknob

So maybe when one does get declined you'd want to know?

Undo

nah

Doorknob

14:37

... well ok then :P

Undo

oh, one of those declined flags was a misclick from Blaze.

Doorknob

goes to eat dinner

bjb568

14:50

waits in library for icecream machine to be cleaned

!!/lick

SmokeDetector

@bjb568 licks ice cream cone

bjb568

:(

Jan Dvorak

@mattytommo indeed. It's called "association bonus" — Jan Dvorak 48 secs ago

too cruel?

Lynn Crumbling

meh

have another +1 on that.

UniKitty

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

14:51

@UniKitty It's 1999's fault.

nicael

check here for screwed post. — nicael 47 secs ago

Jan Dvorak

ah, I love picking on a grammar nazi's mistakes. This sure can't backfire :-D

UniKitty

@nicael Wasn't me now

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: marginal R2 = conditional R2 in mixed model by Johan Craeymeersch on stats.stackexchange.com

UniKitty

> not sure wat is going on.

Kevin Brown

14:57

@SmokeDetector ignore- submitted edit

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: VMware terminology & home usage by vsoraas on superuser.com

UniKitty

@nicael Your test room is gone... :(

nicael

Damn. @Shog, what's up again?

I haven't kicked feeds or something similar...

Jan Dvorak

isn't it BJB again?

Shog9

Annoying room name changes

UniKitty

15:08

@Shog9 sorry

nicael

@Shog9 Umm.

Eh

Shog9

Be careful who you give RO privs to.

This is... What, twice now?

UniKitty

@Shog9 @nicael wanted me to add bots access

nicael

Wat?

Shog9

Why?

bjb568

15:10

Wot?

nicael

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/886/…

Jan Dvorak

Autotrash for catsplosions, I hope

Shog9

Most of those bots weren't yours, were they?

UniKitty

nope

random bots with id -1 to -110 so far

nicael

@Shog9 no, so what? I've granted read access to them, is that a problem? They won't talk anyway.

Shog9

15:11

So if you'd gotten them to cause problems and their accounts removed/suspended, their owners would probably not be very happy...

nicael

@Shog9 I don't get how giving read access to the site bots and the bots of your internal rooms can harm at all. Also, who suspended? Employees, who create those bots?

Shog9

Do you see any purpose to it?

UniKitty

If employees get suspended they need new accounts, which brings more suspension

nicael

@Shog9 No, as well as I can't see any harm in it.

Just a collection.

Jan Dvorak

later on things transcend to physical suspensions in mid-air

Shog9

15:15

An excellent way to avoid problems is to avoid needless actions.

2

Doorknob

only do the needful

3

Shog9

For instance, changing the name of a room repeatedly every time I check the list.

Jan Dvorak

sounds like taylorism

2

UniKitty

@Shog9 that was @nicael mostly

nicael

@Shog9 lol :D That's not my fault.

Ok. I'm the collector bot accounts. So adding those bots is not needless!

o.0 someone definitely needs problems because stars the messages!

Oh. Why so small traffic today on MSE...

@Shog by the way, you have planned to revert SO logo today. Or is there a specified time?

Shog9

15:23

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A: When are we going to get the old logo back?

As I said in comments, we aim to revert back to the normal logo at around 2:00 PM Eastern (18:00 UTC). As it would be part of a build, please don't get upset if it doesn't happen exactly at that time, as technical considerations might delay things. However, all going AccordingToPlan ™, it shoul...

Undo

2 days ago, by Undo

div#hlogo a {
    background-image: url("http://cdn.sstatic.net/stackoverflow/img/sprites.png?v=c4222387135a"),none ;
}

^ Or that if you're anxious

put it in Stylebot or similar.

nicael

@Shog9 thx

Doorknob

xkcd has been getting a little scary lately... o.o

Jan Dvorak

God can't physically be harmed by any human

rene

15:38

So beside 6 to 8 weeks we now also have AccordingToPlan. Aren't those synonym?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ABOUT EULER'S THEROM by Dawit Mulugeta on math.stackexchange.com

UniKitty

Hello @jcolebrand

jcolebrand

@UniKitty oh you would like that wouldn't you? :p

UniKitty

@jcolebrand like what

xkcdBot

16:00

Today's xkcd comic (Margaret):

Otherwise known as Margaret the Destroyer, I will bring pain to the the Great One. Then again, maybe I won't.

Benjamin Gruenbaum

Ok, game time @bjb568: what would you close stackoverflow.com/q/31120083/1348195 as?

user259867

16:16

@BenjaminGruenbaum self-answered

user259867

Although the self-answer has zero explanation. :/

Benjamin Gruenbaum

It's also grossly incorrect.

Shog9

@BenjaminGruenbaum fortunately, someone else answered

Benjamin Gruenbaum

@Shog9 what do you think about that question in the first place?

What would you close (if at all) it as?

Shog9

@BenjaminGruenbaum do you understand what he's trying to accomplish?

Benjamin Gruenbaum

16:23

@Shog9 yes, I understand his problem (but only because he posted a former question about it today) and can write an answer, but it's super specific to his problem, there are two more general problems that cover what he's asking about and he can easily decompose his issue to his two problems and ask about it. There is no way a future visitor will read and benefit from that question.

jcolebrand

@UniKitty I was just trying to make a funny

user259867

> Yesterday was my 5th anniversary with Stack Overflow/@StackExchange and all I got is these lousy shirts I made. -- Jin Yang at 9:19 AM - 29 Jun 2015 via Twitter

Shog9

@BenjaminGruenbaum So to answer your question: my problem with this question right now is that it doesn't actually ask a question.

Benjamin Gruenbaum

@Shog9 it'd be fine with code review.

Shog9

If he (or anyone else) could, y'know, add a question to it, then we could discuss that.

Failing that, I'd say it's Unclear.

user259867

16:25

Is the difference between "Do X" and "How to do X" really that crucial?

Benjamin Gruenbaum

That's what I did, thanks.

Shog9

@1999 He's already doing X, I think?

Presumably it either doesn't work, or he wishes to do it differently

user259867

Yes, in light of the answer it's less clear now.

bjb568

@BenjaminGruenbaum unclear

Benjamin Gruenbaum

@bjb568 yeah, that's what I ended up doing, thanks.

Shog9

16:28

@BenjaminGruenbaum FWIW, CR may not strictly require specific questions in all cases, but... They don't hurt.

Yi Jiang

UniKitty

Hello @YiJiang

Yi Jiang

Apparently it is possible to have an edit that does nothing

Benjamin Gruenbaum

@Shog9 But "how can I better write this pattern" is something I would answer there, I actually believe I have a good answer here but I think it'll do more harm than good.

(It'd confuse future visitors)

Shog9

@BenjaminGruenbaum I believe that would be fine on SO as well, if he gave some indication of what was bothering him with his current implementation.

Benjamin Gruenbaum

16:30

@Shog9 Yes, if he had a specific question about a disposer pattern that'd be perfectly fine

jcolebrand

@Shog9 I added a question. Thoughts on my question?

Shog9

"How can I make my nested promises less spaghetti?"

4

jcolebrand

@Shog9 whoa whoa whoa, that's ANOTHER question

jeeeeeze

Don't make me summon @TimStone ...

Shog9

@jcolebrand yeah, well, see that's the problem when you don't ask ANY question...

jcolebrand

#CanIDoThatTho

tchrist

16:38

@Shog9 First black raspberries are now ripe. Yum.

Shog9

jealous!

tchrist

I can really no longer navigate the back patch any longer. They are become Audrey, Destroyer of Skin.

bjb568

Quit talking about physical things in mah tavern!

tchrist

Bring a bucket that will hold half a dozen, or a coupla dozen, sproutlings, and they’re yours.

bjb568

u buy teh berry in teh stor!

tchrist

16:41

Not possible.

Not in the shops.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in title: Testimony how i got a loan from { [email protected] } by Eileen Fisher on money.stackexchange.com

tchrist

They are not distributed nationally.

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Shog9

@tchrist I'll try to make it up this fall once the canes start dying back.

Lynn Crumbling

@tchrist Wife just brought some of those home Saturday nite

jcolebrand

16:44

@Shog9 get someone to burninate that Q there on money

it's spam

user259867

@tchrist Sounds like you may be interested in skin care recommendations.

Shog9

"purge history"?

hichris123

@tchrist Ours are almost all picked already -- they ripened starting probably 2 weeks ago.

tchrist

@LynnCrumbling Oh from where?

jcolebrand

@Shog9 I thought it was gonna just be one of those where the devs cleared the history to keep the view history pure

Tim Stone

16:44

@jcolebrand Uh oh

jcolebrand

You did used to do that once upon a time

tchrist

@hichris123 Weird. What latitude/altitude?

jcolebrand

But then I read more and realized it was actually just crap

tchrist

It's always the 4th.

Shog9

ah

jcolebrand

16:45

so just burninate it

hichris123

@tchrist Well, I'm in the midwest, so...

tchrist

I'

Dronehinge

i've never seen so many messages, this is cool watching it scroll fast

jcolebrand

@TimStone it worked! I didn't even have to use the goats blood

tchrist

I'll check with the folks.

Lynn Crumbling

16:45

She picked them up at a local grocery store, which is highly unusual. I'm sure they bought them local. Usually, there's an Amish roadside stand that we can rely on.

jcolebrand

@Dronehinge this isn't even fast

you should see a room where the really active users are

Dronehinge

fastest i've ever seen in tavern

tchrist

Oh, yes, the Amish will pick them in the forests and sell them roadside.

jcolebrand

several people get rate limited at once

Lynn Crumbling

C# is crazy. Go see how many msgs a day they do.

jcolebrand

16:46

Weird thought for the day: Nigeria has a Shanghai and a Mumbai more population than Japan.

It helps to know that Shanghai is 4 DFW in population and Mumbai is 2 DFW in population

Point being: if you took another Tokyo, and added it to Japan, you would have Nigeria

Dronehinge

the traffic can't be any worse in shanghai and mambai, no way

jcolebrand

@Dronehinge I'm talking population tho ...

Lynn Crumbling

@jcolebrand DFW=? (guessing not "Dallas-Fort Worth")

tchrist

@Shog9 Deal.

Dronehinge

that's what i thought he meant

Lynn Crumbling

16:48

heh.

tchrist

@LynnCrumbling DFW is NSFW.

Lynn Crumbling

I see.

@tchrist Yep, and the stand we frequent is REALLY picky about only quality berries. So we're more than willing to pay 4.50 a pint.

Can't wait until silver king corn comes in.

^ best part of summer.

jcolebrand

@LynnCrumbling Except that's where I live so why wouldn't you?

I could express things in NYCs but I don't live there

Sheeesh

#ThisIsCalledHumor #WhoMeasuresThingsInDFWsAnyways

Lynn Crumbling

heh.

Perhaps if you would measure them in Pennsyltuckys....

jcolebrand

I could do that. I just happen to have a Pennsyltucky right here. I do not think you would accept my estimation...

tchrist

16:52

@LynnCrumbling Grandpa picked them for $7/halfpint for the local gourmet restaurants.

Dronehinge

the @bjb bot could calculate square miles of places

!comp size of georgia

i think he's retired though

tchrist

The Amish I know are over yonger by Prairie du Chien though, who don't much live there any longer, alas.

Lynn Crumbling

@tchrist Wow. That's a lot.

Dronehinge

in Botlings practice room, Jan 2 at 3:37, by Sompuperoo

!comp size of russia - size of canada

Lynn Crumbling

But.. around here, the season is only about 2 weeks... so... you can demand a premium.

Dronehinge

16:53

in Botlings practice room, Jan 2 at 3:37, by bjb568

2.738 million mi^2 (square miles)

tchrist

The chiens, I mean. I seem to have brought them with me to Colorado, where they are like everywhere. Wherever pre-pestis I mean.

@LynnCrumbling High-priced Chicago-getaway resort restaurants. You can see why he went to the trouble.

Lynn Crumbling

@tchrist Where were you before CO?

bjb568

@Dronehinge will be back in 6 weeks

tchrist

@LynnCrumbling Lake Geneva WI, now Boulder CO.

Lynn Crumbling

Ah.

tchrist

16:54

But we drove west to Prairie du Chien area a lot.

Dronehinge

reject plz meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/39807

Lynn Crumbling

I didn't know Amish existed west of Ohio. (in any sizable quantity)

tchrist

Amish on the roads.

Now I work for a Pennsylvania Mothership, and there too have they Amish. And Mennonites, I believe.

Shog9

@BenjaminGruenbaum see my edits. cc @jcolebrand

Lynn Crumbling

@tchrist Where's the company out of?

Shog9

16:56

@LynnCrumbling they rarely update their Facebook pages.

tchrist

Pittsburgh, whence I am but this weekend returned.

Lynn Crumbling

Yes... Mennonites are actually more prevalent than Amish in Lancaster.

@Shog9 You'd be surprised how "by the book" they can live.

Shog9

probably not

Lynn Crumbling

And I mean that, in the Letter of the Law way... not the Spirit.

tchrist

Grant Street Group. Government financial stuff. 100% Perl, but for the ocassional Javascript for AJAX and the Go and the shell and the Java. The Go is new, and not for the webstack stuff, just by one cool guy.

user259867

16:58

Oh. One of our PhDs (math) works there.

Lynn Crumbling

As in "no electricity is allowed in the house" means nothing with regard to ...say.. the generator in the barn.

Shog9

yeah, I know

tchrist

@1999 Oh, which one?

There are dangerously smart people at GSG. A lot of secret higher degrees in random things.

Lynn Crumbling

@tchrist Pittsburgh, eh? Ever get out this way?

user259867

@tchrist Or at least he used to work there; not sure about the present. twitter.com/budney

tchrist

16:59

@LynnCrumbling We have semi-annual weeklong company wide conference. I just got back from the summer one, which was half meetings and half hackathon.

@1999 Oh of course. Smart guy.

Still does.

user259867

He should have a webpage of some sort that returns HTTP 200...

tchrist

Hardest thing for me is that everyone is fullstack, and that means you aren't always in your comfort zone. But you learn a lot.

Lynn Crumbling

@tchrist Man.. 4.5 hours on the turnpike and we could've had a beer. heh. :)

tchrist

Managed to get together with Casey West, which was cool if you know him.

Lynn Crumbling

Sadly... no...

tchrist

17:03

And two weeks ago was YAPC::NA in SLC. I drove. That said, YAPC::EU in Granada is something I wish I were going to, both because it is a jaw-dropping wonderful town I've been to like six times before (I've lived and worked in Spain, without English) and because my current L10N work is based on something being presented there.

I’ve been avoiding integrating the L10N work in the backend and database with the frontend in JS, because the only thing I do worse than SQL is JS. But the ugly hacks are too much, and something has to be done. The current release of the L10N suite I'm using that's being presented in Granada has JS and JSON (for AJAX) support running off the same lexicon object(s).

Hm.

You know.

I could take holiday there.

I have use-em-or-lose-em vacation days.

I just hate leaving the Rockies during summer.

@LynnCrumbling Perl and Ruby community organizer, very energetic.

@1999 Len’s one of the few old guard who still know how to do systems programming. This still comes up now and then, and baffles the college-hires.

bjb568

works

SmokeDetector

17:25

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: How can I prove that this function is continuous in (0,0)? by linofex on math.stackexchange.com

Lynn Crumbling

Link-only: stackoverflow.com/a/5049394/656243

user259867

@SmokeDetector edited.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: How to hide "Navigation Toolbar" in Firefox 29? by Sydney on superuser.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector self-vandalized because unregistered and can't delete.

Benjamin Gruenbaum

@Shog9 that's substantial improvement but still very localised IMO, he's asking about his very specific code and he can generalize it a lot more.

hichris123

17:31

Wait, you can't delete your post if you're unregistered?

Benjamin Gruenbaum

The bigger issue is that OP does not understand promises at all.

user259867

@hichris123 Correct. Unregistered users can't vote in any way, and deletion is a vote.

hichris123

@1999 ... really?

user259867

@hichris123 See this answer: New/unregistered users should be able to delete their own answers by Jeff Atwood on meta.stackexchange.com

Lynn Crumbling

Reject stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/8617995

Talk about a book. Sheesh.

It's a tag wiki, not wikipedia.

user259867

17:33

jealous of people who can use SE and not encounter the problem of unregs trying to delete own posts on daily basis

hichris123

@1999 That's annoying.

user259867

@hichris123 You tell me... Math is by far the biggest site that allows unregistered questions, on top of answers.

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector shouldn't that be rolled back until someone deletes it?

hichris123

I feel like a feature-request is needed.

Lynn Crumbling

Oh. And this is all copied content from developer.apple.com, too. stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/8617995

Benjamin Gruenbaum

17:35

I removed the dv anyway.

user259867

@hichris123 I hear that the new magical login system that SE is working on will somehow help with this problem.

Lynn Crumbling

@hichris123 We need one more.

or @bjb568, you'll work fine too :)

Thanks.

Kevin Brown

@LynnCrumbling just a heads up, long tag wikis generally aren't an issue. Long copied tag wikis (or wikis which aren't useful) are the issue (example: c, .net)

Lynn Crumbling

@KevinBrown Ok.. thanks... I'll ~~keep that in mind.~~ alter my approach.

@KevinBrown Case nicely made :)

@KevinBrown Oh dear god.

Kevin Brown

In the case of that tag edit, I definitely agree that it had too much information to really be useful

hichris123

17:39

@1999 6-8 weeks of course.

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[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: BASH COMMAND NOT FOUND! by Fernando on apple.stackexchange.com

Dronehinge

A lot of users have avatars that are only heads. Are they in support of all the ISIS beheadings? — random 1 min ago

user259867

17:56

blacklist candidate bloggermaking.com (provisional; 1st time I see it):

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[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Enable Social sites' Like/share button under blog post by Sadikasultana Taniya on webapps.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector delete edited

Dronehinge

old logo is back

nicael

yay

hichris123

18:12

@1999 blacklisted.

Unihedron

18:25

bye

user259867

Who uses 8 spaces to indent code, anyway?

user259867

Puzzled why Github editor thinks this should be the default for HTML.

nicael

Anyone knows how to get whether a SE site is in beta or not? (maybe using api)

Kevin Brown

@nicael There is an API endpoint which includes graduation dates, that'd be the easiest to check

rene

@1999 COBOL does. Put a * in column 7 if you want to exclude that line from execution...

nicael

18:37

Ha, doesn't onebox...

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Circle made up of a looping squiggly line by ZionWillRise on tex.stackexchange.com

Braiam

@199 so, the general form of the perpendicular line of ax+bx+c=0 is equal to bx+ax+c=0 if I understand correctly?

forget it

user259867

That would be bx - ay +d =0 (same a,b as before, d anything). Assuming the equation was ax+by+c=0

Braiam

18:56

@Shog9 with meatballs

user259867

@SmokeDetector delete edited

jadarnel27

19:25

I like semi-colons.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Java Program Output Incorrect by Chuck Coggins III on programmers.stackexchange.com

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector ignore, might be worth an edit

SmokeDetector

@KevinBrown Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

user259867

@KevinBrown Such questions don't live long on Programmers, an edit would be wasted.

Kevin Brown

@1999 At first I didn't realize it was on Programmers, you're right

SmokeDetector

19:50

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Left software startup; CEO warning of competing by proxy (by working on open source). Sane? by Michael Farthing on programmers.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

20:02

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Changing a person's name into an adjective by user127162 on english.stackexchange.com

Kevin Brown

sd tpu- ignore-

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[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: Thumbnails, channel_short_name and channel fields oh my! by Rab on expressionengine.stackexchange.com

hichris123

> A font fall back builder allows you to create Unicode font fallback mappings and create a font ball back object from those mappings.

Somehow I think autocorrect was involved...

user259867

Ugh, they link to songfacts.com, triggering a regex.

user259867

But this is only the second time ever this site got linked on Music Fans

user259867

20:16

We have worse sources of tps.

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

user259867

@SmokeDetector edited

nicael

20:33

wot meta.stackexchange.com/questions/259719/…

Everything okay, you think?

Jan Dvorak

spam?

nicael

Dunno. Strange question, but they are talking about Stack Overflow, and so does the linked page.

Jan Dvorak

It's still "please fill out our survey"

which counts as advertisement

nicael

So, nuking it as spam?

Jan Dvorak

I flagged

nicael

20:40

@Shog What do you think about this?

Shog9

not much

hichris123

I... thought that was what you were supposed to do for surveys.

nicael

Maybe it's not spam, as this user also participates on another stack and has contributed seemingly legitimate answers.

Jan Dvorak

you can still be a spammer if you spam from a legit account

nicael

@JanDvorak Based on the linked question in the last section, I would say that it's allowed to some degree. — Catija 44 secs ago

Ummm.

bjb568

20:46

/me votes not spam

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[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SHAREPOINT 2010, UPDATE LIST ITEMS USING WORKFLOW CONTAIN MULTIPLE ITEMS by John Rothenberger on sharepoint.stackexchange.com

Tim Stone

I agree, I don't consider that spam. If people aren't interested they're free to ignore it, it's hardly malicious or non-specific like garden variety spam.

Pleeeeeeeeeenty of other crappy content to be concerned with.

Jan Dvorak

How do we tell malicious surveys from non-malicious ones?

Tim Stone

I'm not sure I understand the question.

bjb568

WTH is a malicious survey?

Jan Dvorak

20:50

sure if they posted on SO It would count as spam, wouldn't it?

If they linked a survey about which toothpaste I use it would count as spam, wouldn't it?

Tim Stone

Maybe? It'd be off-topic, at any rate.

nicael

Yes to the last.

Jan Dvorak

It isn't a question in any case. it's a request to visit their website.

bjb568

On meta it's appropriate.

nicael

@Jan That's meta; not every "question" is a actually a question there.

Jan Dvorak

20:53

What if a survey claims to be about SO, but doesn't actually mention SO the least bit? Mods won't find out until somebody comments or until they complete the survey themselves.

bjb568

It's not exactly something that needs to be handled on a mass scale by mods.

Jan Dvorak

would it be spam if a survey about toothpastes claimed to be about Stack Exchange?

bjb568

Yes

Jan Dvorak

so, how do we tell?

nicael

@JanDvorak lol yes

Tim Stone

20:55

You skipped the first question of "Why do we care?"

If it happened every day, then we'd care.

Jan Dvorak

Flaggers need consistency

Tim Stone

It's happened like...a handful of times so far?

Flaggers craving that level of consistency need to take a break because it's really not that big of a deal.

99.9% of the spam that comes through is blatantly obviously bad

Jan Dvorak

I don't like rejected flags. Could the warning at least be dismissible?

(closed, btw)

and my tendency to flag less due to the fear of rejected flags leads to comments like "5 spam answers on Android still on"

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