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Braiam

20:03

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29447040/792066

user259867

@AstroCB You can keep the dictionary in local storage, allowing for more to be added algorithmically. Not worth it in this case, but in principle.

Braiam

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/29443096/792066

and this is? stackoverflow.com/questions/27794536/…

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/24531769/792066

bjb568

Is this good?

Undo

delv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/26700619/1849664

user259867

Grr. When is auto-deletion going to be expanded to downvoted duplicates? It's been 9 months since that discussion.

Braiam

20:16

@pizza questions scored -1 or less are deleted irrespectively of their status

except positive scored answers

rene

@Undo poof

Undo

Thank you!

user259867

@Braiam No, questions closed as duplicates are not included in 9-day roomba.

user259867

And the other types are prevented by the existence of answers with whatever score.

Braiam

@pizza I have a friend that says that they are

user259867

20:20

@Braiam Those are without answers.

user259867

The proposal was to delete, among other things, downvoted duplicates with no highly scored answers.

Braiam

@pizza exaclty?

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/11225478/792066

> When is auto-deletion going to be expanded to downvoted duplicates?

user259867

By which I meant... even if they have some answers.

Braiam

@pizza now you are talking about something entirely different

Undo

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/29461800/1849664

user259867

20:30

Okay, who upvoted bjb's comment under mod nomination?

2

user259867

1

Q: Curious sighting regarding Up votes on comments in the election

So, if you review the election link: http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/election?cb=1 Scroll down to comments on @Ryan's nomination.... How is it that the comment from @bjb568 has an up vote??? I don't even have the option of up voting comments in the election link. So, how is this pos...

tchrist

@pizza Probably an @nicael exploit. :)

3

Braiam

@tchrist the scary thing is that sounds pausible

vaultah

Is it appropriate to flag my own (misleading) answer asking mods to unaccept it?

Braiam

@vaultah if you can build up a good case, yes

through it wouldn't be "unaccepted", just deleted

which would be the same

vaultah

20:36

Gotcha, thanks

user259867

It wouldn't be a bad idea to fix the upvoting bug before SO election, but not much time left...

user259867

!!/so2015

SmokeDetector

@pizza Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Nominations start in 0 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes and 50 seconds.

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@pizza Registered answer as false positive.

user259867

20:47

> You know how sometimes they cut your hair just like you asked, but it just doesn't look quite how you expected? pic.twitter.com/YkbvxGDGjE -- Jay Hanlon at 12:42 PM - 5 Apr 2015 via Twitter

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: Information Credibility by Matthew Lix on physics.stackexchange.com

user259867

VLQ, not spam.

hichris123

@pizza I should probably accept Anna's answer...

user259867

I don't understand why graphic designers didn't appreciate @nicael's bug report about the logo of their site.

hichris123

@pizza 'cause it's pretty on the inside?

Braiam

20:58

> During yesterday's Physics Chat we had an, erm, lively discussion about the evergreen subject of homework questions, and I think we reached as near a consensus as a motley crew of physics nerds is ever likely to achieve

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29454496/…

rene

please upvote me so that i can be able to post images — Pure App Makers Mar 29 at 7:52

plz plz plz plz plz pretty plz...

Braiam

@rene no

bjb568

I think this Youtube UI needs some applause.

Ixrec

@hichris123 For the past hour or so I thought "cv-plz" meant curricula vitae, not close votes; now it all makes sense

2

bjb568

21:03

:p

Ixrec

and now I wish I had enough rep on SO to close vote

Undo

lol

It's nice, go get 3k

It's actually possible

hichris123

@Ixrec ahaha

user259867

@Ixrec You have enough rep for Triage. Triage can be fun, depending on time of day.

Ixrec

good point; I spend most of my time on PSE so I forgot I had access to that thing

user259867

21:11

I'm still figuring out the best time to do it, to maximize the number of totally OT questions vs. the usual mind-numbing parade of obscure issues with web dev frameworks.

user259867

The range 00-04 UTC is pretty good.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: When is the typical end of interview invitations for faculty positions? by Dianne Jane Rodriguez on academia.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@pizza Blacklisted user.

AstroCB

@SmokeDetector Looks like manual spam.

hichris123

21:18

!!/addblu superuser.com/users/430207/dianne-jane-rodriguez

SmokeDetector

@hichris123 User blacklisted (430207 on superuser.com).

Braiam

I should stop downvoting answers until I answer something... I'm yet again below 2k

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/9735441/792066

> When your brother made you turn into a warrior and all you wanted to do was become a chef.

bjb568

feature-request Make it free to downvote answers to questions that are one or more of the following: 1) closed 2) has a score of -2 or less 3) has more than 3 answers and has an upvote or accepted answer

"The candidates answer your questions" on SO election links to MSE not MSO.

Braiam

@bjb568 quick, before nicael notices

bjb568

I'm doing quick things now, but what should I do?

Undo

21:27

@bjb568 that'll be fixed when the election actually starts

bjb568

-ms-filter, -moz-filter, and -o-filter don't do anything. You should check which vender prefixes actually are applicable instead of blindly applying many of them. — bjb568 6 secs ago

user259867

@bjb568 Additionally: an upvote to an answer to a closed question costs 1 rep.

hichris123

@pizza why? Even closed questions have pearls.

user259867

@hichris123 Sure. 1 rep cost of downvotes on answers doesn't say "don't do it", but rather "think before you do". The same makes sense with upvoting answers to closed questions.

bjb568

Agree.

Ixrec

21:39

that feels like it would complicate the rep system more than it would discourage bad behavior; I can easily imagine people getting annoyed at the -1s if a question gets closed just as they start clicking on arrows

bjb568

They can unclick.

WTH, autocarrot? How does unclick go to unblock?

It just attempted to carrot to unlike.

hichris123

@pizza not... really...

bjb568

dv-pls stackoverflow.com/a/29462478/2371861

Basically a repeat of the older answer with CSS thru jQuery.

AstroCB

21:54

@bjb568 I'm not sure why it's accepted, but it's not really doing any harm; a lot of people just answer JS questions with jQuery by default.

hichris123

> C# Ninjas Wanted

yay

AstroCB

It's assumed that if you're using that snippet in a larger project, you'll have jQuery in it anyway, and otherwise, it's not that big of a deal to convert it back to vanilla if you really want to.

bjb568

@AstroCB IT'S A CSS QUESTION

AstroCB

hichris123

@bjb568 It has the JS tag...

bjb568

21:56

So?

That doesn't mean it's appropriate.

AstroCB

@bjb568 It was tagged with jQuery and JavaScript.

What does that suggest the asker wants?

bjb568

And obviously had nothing to do with jQuery.

AstroCB

> Unless a tag for a framework or library is also included, a pure JavaScript answer is expected for questions with the javascript tag.

But...a tag for a framework was included, so a pure JS solution isn't expected.

bjb568

@AstroCB Yes, so the answer was inappropriate which is why I dv'd.

@AstroCB No it's not.

AstroCB

@bjb568 But the OP included the jQuery tag.

bjb568

21:59

Erroneously. Which is why I edited it out, negating its effect.

AstroCB

@bjb568 I'm not entirely sure that's your decision to make.

bjb568

As an editor, every edit is a decision for me to make.

Jason C

FACE IT BJB, UNTIL U USE MORE JQUERY, NOBODY WILL LIKE U

bjb568

NUUUUUUUUU

If you want to know what my rational is, which is a very good question:

1:

5 mins ago, by bjb568

@AstroCB IT'S A CSS QUESTION

2:

4 mins ago, by bjb568

And obviously had nothing to do with jQuery.

Mooseman

@bjb568 not. possible.

Doorknob

22:01

You can't use the fact that the question doesn't have a tag as rationale if YOU'RE the one who edited out the tag...

Jason C

3: Farts are funny, ha ha.

bjb568

i.e. jQuery didn't help categorize the question because nothing in the question body indicated jQuery

Braiam

naa stackoverflow.com/a/9205630/792066

bjb568

@Doorknob Of course I can.

hichris123

So lemme get this straight: we've been bikeshedding for the past 10-ish minutes, and no one has anything better to do?

3

Doorknob

22:02

@hichris123 I just got here. :P

hichris123

@Doorknob $(".leave").click();

bjb568

It's like "don't use a version tag unless it's actually related to the question"

Doorknob

@bjb568 If this was on chat.SE, I would edit your message into "You're right" and then use that as an argument against you. (Unfortunately, this is chat.MSE :( )

hichris123

@Doorknob + purge history.

Doorknob

Naturally.

hichris123

22:03

Go close stackoverflow.com/questions/29454496/…, @Doorknob.

@JasonC The real question is: will 865bjb like him without jQuery?

Braiam

@hichris123 I'm waiting for platanos to be ready

AstroCB

@Doorknob This is what I was trying to tell you, @bjb.

Jason C

@hichris123 Nope.

hichris123

@Braiam go... get more bananas? :P

bjb568

Damn OP didn't write question properly.

Edited.

AstroCB

22:06

@bjb568 In my original post I explained I only needed it to blur for a few seconds and asked for an answer incorporating jquery. — Snowlav 3 mins ago

hichris123

@bjb568 you still didn't edit it correctly... the OP said "with jQuery for example". That means the answers could use jQuery, but don't have to since it's "for example".

AstroCB

Vindicated.

Oh, if you specifically needed a jQuery solution you should have made it clear in the question body. I have edited it for you. — bjb568 2 mins ago

^@bjb568 There was a jQuery tag.

hichris123

oh well nevermind then.

bjb568

@hichris123 "I… asked for an answer incorporating jquery"

hichris123

@bjb568 I didn't see that comment.

bjb568

22:07

@AstroCB Not in question body.

AstroCB

...

Doorknob

@AstroCB Which he edited out because obviously he knows more about the OP's intentions than OP himself.

AstroCB

You will never see bjb write these words again.

hichris123

> I was wondering if there was a way (with jquery for example) to blur an iframe for a few seconds

Braiam

21

A: Is it OK to edit the question to change the author's intention

The amount of blind dogma being repeated in this thread is depressing... NO it's not appropriate to change a question such that it no longer reflects what the asker needed help with - but in order to edit effectively without doing that, you must first understand the intent of the author! How? Co...

bjb568

22:08

I want to add 1 + 1.
[html][javascript][jQuery][angular][node]

That can be interpreted as "the tags are wrong" or "the body is wrong".

Which has precedence?

Ixrec

Personally, I assumed the fact that OP accepted the jQuery answer meant that he did in fact want a jQuery answer

Doorknob

Jason C

The best part is, in about, say, 1 hour, this question will effectively not exist due to nobody actually caring any more.

Doorknob

jQuery is the proper tag there.

hichris123

8 mins ago, by hichris123

So lemme get this straight: we've been bikeshedding for the past 10-ish minutes, and no one has anything better to do?

bjb568

22:10

@Braiam Seeing incorrect application of the tag many times, I assumed the first possibility (tags are wrong)

Jason C

@hichris123 Ha

user259867

@hichris123 I have some grading to do, but that's not any better. Rather, worse.

bjb568

Yay, nobody needs grades. Or just give everybody full credit.

Ixrec

I'm just reading and lurking in other SE chats

AstroCB

@bjb568 The body was ambiguous – not wrong. Not mentioning that you want a jQuery solution and using a jQuery tag is not the same as saying "I want a pure JS solution" and using a jQuery tag.

hichris123

22:11

@pizza You are providing your students valuable feedback on what they do and don't understand. Think of the children!

user259867

Think of my sanity! It can only handle so much.

bjb568

@AstroCB The body was wrong. No library is assumed unless specifically requested.

AstroCB

@bjb568 ...via tags.

Braiam

I do not edit that question because I simply don't understand from the context

bjb568

No. Via post body.

hichris123

22:11

@pizza Crowdsource grading then to Mathematics.

Braiam

@hichris123 sounds like a plan

AstroCB

15 mins ago, by AstroCB

> Unless a tag for a framework or library is also included, a pure JavaScript answer is expected for questions with the javascript tag.

bjb568

"How can I do this with a jQuery crappyfunc?" is more specific than "uh… I may be using jQuery or just thot it's kewl or maybe it'll be relevant or something, IDK"

@AstroCB Yes.

Jason C

@pizza You could try training SmokeDetector to grade papers. Then you can write "-1 SPAM" on the bad ones.

AstroCB

> Unless a tag for a framework or library is also included...

bjb568

22:14

YES.

AstroCB

Alright; it's time for this question to fade into obscurity.

bjb568

Ok. It's crappy. Would close as too localized on DD.

hichris123

@JasonC Relevant xkcd:

'Automating' comes from the roots 'auto-' meaning 'self-', and 'mating', meaning 'screwing'.

AstroCB

7 mins ago, by AstroCB

^@bjb568 There was a jQuery tag.

hichris123

Alright, that's it:

reopen-vote-plz meta.stackexchange.com/questions/111493/…

bjb568

22:15

@AstroCB Until I edited it out.

Braiam

> You have already voted to reopen this question; you may recast your vote on Apr 18 at 2:59

AstroCB

14 mins ago, by Doorknob

You can't use the fact that the question doesn't have a tag as rationale if YOU'RE the one who edited out the tag...

Doorknob

@bjb568 Incorrectly.

Braiam

wait till April 18

Jason C

@hichris123 "I should write, 'Hey, thanks for not one-boxing that.'" -> Goes to read comic -> Returns -> "Dammit."

bjb568

22:16

@Doorknob No. Based on context it was a correct edit. OP then overrode my assumption by clarifying his question.

Alexis King

This entire discussion is ridiculous.

Doorknob

I like how the quote of me gets the star, not my original message :(

AstroCB

@bjb568 this.discussion["status"] = over;

Braiam

@JasonC blames balpha

bjb568

@AstroCB this.status = OVER

Ixrec

22:17

@Doorknob I wasn't here when you originally said it =P

AstroCB

@bjb568 StackExchange.chat.Tavern = null;

Jason C

lvalue required on left side of assignment. :(

Braiam

Type II Kardashev civilizations eventually completely enclose their planetary system in a Dyson sphere because space is way too big to look at all the time.

hichris123

@AlexisKing NO, YOU ARE!

Oh oh oh:

Happy birthday, @Alexis!

2

Alexis King

Thanks! :3

Braiam

22:18

must flood with xkcd comics

Jason C

will counter-attack with rainbow / cat gifs

AstroCB

@Braiam xkcdBot

bjb568

Oh yay, it's @alexis' birthday

many celebrates

Doorknob

Happy bornday!

hichris123

Here, have another cake, @Alexis.

Doorknob

22:20

@hichris123 Brookes-6th-birthday-cake.jpg

hichris123

@Doorknob Yeah so? :P

Jason C

@hichris123 Plot twist: That unicorn doesn't actually have a tail.

Braiam

@hichris123 6th ¬_¬

bjb568

Alexis King

@JasonC /me is confused

bjb568

22:21

turns out it's hard to find pics of both birthday and cat

Jason C

@AlexisKing As you should be.

bjb568

lel blunderconstruction.com/2012/04/birthday-cake-for-cats.html

hichris123

@Braiam 18 / 6 == 3. Eh, we programmers can't count.

Doorknob

@bjb568 ?

AstroCB

Where did xkcd search go?

bjb568

22:22

@Doorknob we have standards here!

tangentially related:

Jason C

@bjb568 Lol. What they don't show is the return gift of cat puke on the floor.

Doorknob

Tangentially related:

AstroCB

@xkcdBot find Random Number

bjb568

secantially related:

Jason C

Tangentially related (to everything): Why is processing a sorted array faster than an unsorted array?

bjb568

22:24

AstroCB

hichris123

bjb568

hichris123

@Braiam How many reopen votes are on it?

... on the SO blog? Okay.

Jason C

bjb568

22:25

wat freebirthdaycards.eu/birthday_cards_with/images/…

hichris123

Doorknob

Highly relevant:

Jason C

@bjb568 Oh man...

Doorknob

bjb568

no

hichris123

22:27

@Doorknob It's our birthday gift to @alexis!

oooh.

Alexis King

summons @InfiniteRecursion

Jason C

@Doorknob ^

Braiam

@hichris123 none

bjb568

hichris123

@Braiam >:(

Jason C

22:28

Doorknob

@JasonC :(

Braiam

oh god...

no

Doorknob

@JasonC what kind of URL is that O_o

Jason C

<- Win

Braiam

get away!

very

hichris123

22:29

go

away

Braiam

away

hichris123

or

else

Braiam

still there!

a bit more...

still!

hichris123

Braiam

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!

Jason C

22:29

Noooooooo

Doorknob

what's happening

Braiam

ya!

Jason C

@Doorknob The best kind

Fail

bjb568

I HATE PHOTOBUCKET

THEY ARE EVIL

Braiam

@bjb568 I don't even...

bjb568

22:31

Jason C

I feel like mine was underappreciated

6 mins ago, by Jason C

LOOK AT IT.

Doorknob

help, the Tavern is exploding

Braiam

explodes

bjb568

hichris123

flags

Jason C

22:33

Man

I hate what icanhazcheezburger did to the captioned cat.

hichris123

in CoGro Musings, Apr 2 at 12:25, by Tim Post

Jason C

Haha, ^ reminds me, did you guys ever read cakewrecks

cakewrecks.com

bjb568

ocelots are cute

Jason C

The earliest posts in the first days of it were the greatest.

Aw man looks like the archive only goes back to 2008, classics, lost forever.

AstroCB

What room does this go to? sandbox = client.get_room(14219)

What site's chat does that go to?

Braiam

22:39

@JasonC don't worry, in 2018 they will "reappear"

Jason C

@AstroCB chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/14219/charcoal-chatbot-sandbox

AstroCB

@JasonC Ah.

Frozen, so that doesn't do much good.

Jason C

When in doubt check chat.stackexchange.com, most of the chat rooms are there

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: gamesCompleted method is not updating by b_all on stackoverflow.com

user259867

^ rollback please

AstroCB

22:46

hello world

user259867

Diamonds have all reputation-based privileges regardless of reputation. Does this mean they can also vote in mod elections? (Elections are a bit special as far as voting concerned)

AstroCB

@AstroCB Magic!

Jason C

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29462890/… no-repro

hichris123

@AstroCB fixed

AstroCB

Hooray.

...

hichris123

23:01

How about xkcdbot568?

AstroCB

That one might be a problem.

2

Undo

@pizza Wouldn't be surprised if that special-cased

CMs probably want to be able to vote in all the elections

@AstroCB I've never had Google try to phone-verify one of my accounts

AstroCB

@Undo No – xkcdbot is a robot...

Undo

Not like Google knows

delv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/14392387/1849664

hichris123

@balpha Nah, probably just a dev channel issue, I'm not bothered by it. Just not used to waking up to a low memory error in Windows, heheh.

Tweeted by tmslft on April 1, 2015 at 9:12 AM in reply to balpha

Hrm, interesting @TimStone. A better picture/GIF cache went into place a few weeks ago... maybe that's it?

Undo

23:15

!!/so2015

SmokeDetector

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: What are the commands (command block) for a Giant with full diamond armor (Protection IV) riding a bat with spawner by penis on gaming.stackexchange.com

Undo

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Undo Blacklisted user.

Undo

^ offensive

cv-plz meta.stackexchange.com/questions/252845/…

hichris123

5

Q: Make comment flags less stupid

I'm sick of comment flags, and I'm pretty sure everyone else is too. They've been a problem for five years, and they're just getting worse. Don't get me wrong: rude/vulgar/stupid comments are a plague. We don't want this to be YouTube, and know good and well it could easily go that route. But th...