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1:00 PM
@Sam Well, it only shows www.___.org
 
If the pages end with .php you'll probably find they're broken as well.
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@Sam That's also TSL...
 
Sam
@PeterJ So true.
 
Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure (HTTPS) is a communications protocol for secure communication over a computer network, with especially wide deployment on the Internet. Technically, it is not a protocol in and of itself; rather, it is the result of simply layering the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) on top of the SSL/TLS protocol, thus adding the security capabilities of SSL/TLS to standard HTTP communications. The main motivation for HTTPS is to prevent wiretapping and man-in-the-middle attacks. The security of HTTPS is therefore that of the underlying TLS, which uses long-term public and...
 
Bootstrap is great. You guys are crazy =)
 
1:00 PM
@PeterJ or, you know, index.php?members=...
 
@Sam Oh and by the way, I don't even SEE www. and http:// in this site.
 
@ArceusMaster0493 because @ has proper routing thru their DNS
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 What browser are you using?
 
How about this -- lets stop throwing Wiki pages at me. :P
 
@ArceusMaster0493 What's the fun in that? :/
 
1:01 PM
@Sam Safari. :P
 
Sam
falls off chair
 
@Unihedro or eval.php?suupahsecorecodez=dologin([isadmin:no])
 
silently slides another wiki page
 
@ArceusMaster0493 O_O
 
@Unihedro Oh well, sure, make fun of me when I'm living in a literal internet hell.
 
1:01 PM
I didn't throw
 
I'm so sorry.
 
Wikipedia (/ˌwɪkɨˈpiːdiə/ or /ˌwɪkiˈpiːdiə/ WIK-i-PEE-dee-ə) is a free-access, free content Internet encyclopedia, supported and hosted by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. Anyone who can access the site can edit almost any of its articles, as long as they follow the rules. Wikipedia is the seventh-most popular website and constitutes the Internet's largest and most popular general reference work. Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger launched Wikipedia on January 15, 2001. Sanger coined its name, a portmanteau of wiki (from the Hawaiian word for "quick") and encyclopedia. Initially only in English,...
 
… what's wrong with teh safariz?
 
@bjb568 everything
 
:O
 
Sam
1:02 PM
@bjb568 Too many animal droppings.
 
@bjb568 made by apple
 
@Doorknob THAT is one of the most useful wiki pages ever seen. And the only one.
 
@bjb568 it has a "z" in it, the original product doesn't
 
:O
 
Safari is a Chrome ripoff made specifically for a platform that already has Chrome
 
1:03 PM
With Chrome: This webpage is not available. and ERR_CONNECTION_RESET
 
Sam
inb4 "iSafari"
 
And by the way, it has https://. All the websites have that.
But, does that matter?
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Do you use a proxy?
 
@Sam Um...
dang it
wrong
In computer networks, a proxy server is a server (a computer system or an application) that acts as an intermediary for requests from clients seeking resources from other servers. A client connects to the proxy server, requesting some service, such as a file, connection, web page, or other resource available from a different server and the proxy server evaluates the request as a way to simplify and control its complexity. Proxies were invented to add structure and encapsulation to distributed systems. Today, most proxies are web proxies, facilitating access to content on the World Wide Web and...
 
I'm using PHP, jQuery, and Twitter Bootstrap. Go ahead.
 
1:04 PM
There.
@Sam Um, how can I know if I'm using a Proxy?
 
Sam
Ok. Lets safely assume the only option left is to completely re-format your hard drive and install a proper OS.
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Sam
;D
 
I'm using mouse and keyboard
 
That's why Apple is abandoning Intel...
 
1:05 PM
@Mooseman Is this a confession, or a problem statement?
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@Sam you mean restarting didn't work?
 
@JanDvorak Confession, maybe. Should I be using IE6 as well?
 
@Sam Um, how can I know if I'm using a Proxy?
 
@Mooseman hell no
 
@ArceusMaster0493 Can you tracert on a Mac?
 
Sam
1:06 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 Erm.
 
@Mooseman and windows 95
 
@Mooseman This is getting confusing. What is tracert?
 
MS BOB
In computing, traceroute is a computer network diagnostic tool for displaying the route (path) and measuring transit delays of packets across an Internet Protocol (IP) network. The history of the route is recorded as the round-trip times of the packets received from each successive host (remote node) in the route (path); the sum of the mean times in each hop indicates the total time spent to establish the connection. Traceroute proceeds unless all (three) sent packets are lost more than twice, then the connection is lost and the route cannot be evaluated. Ping, on the other hand, only computes...
 
So... how should I Traceroute my... route?
Open a terminal?
*bash
 
1:07 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 Exactly
 
@Mooseman And type tracert
 
Sam
@Mooseman Definitely.
 
waiting for another wiki page on how to open terminal
 
@DroidDev OH NO.
 
OS X is practically unix, right?
 
1:08 PM
-bash: tracert: command not found
 
traceroute -w 3 -q 1 -m 16 example.com
 
Sam
~ TavernSession #172: How to troubleshoot internet issues on an evil OS.
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@Unihedro apart from all the UI enhancements, softwares availability, extremely costly, etc etc....YES
 
@Unihedro thanks :D
 
1:09 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 NP; I use an ubuntu, so.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Upload base64 image to php server and save to MySql by David on stackoverflow.com
 
You can also use netsniff-ng for this, it's helpful:
netsniff-ng is a free Linux network analyzer and networking toolkit originally written by Daniel Borkmann. Its gain of performance is reached by zero-copy mechanisms for network packets (RX_RING, TX_RING), so that the Linux kernel does not need to copy packets from kernel space to user space via system calls such as recvmsg(). libpcap, starting with release 1.0.0, also supports the zero-copy mechanism on Linux for capturing (RX_RING), so programs using libpcap also use that mechanism on Linux. == Overview == netsniff-ng was initially created as a network sniffer with support of the Linux kernel...
 
One sec. I'm opening a pastern.
*pastebin
**** you autocorrect.
 
oh! another feature in mac
 
auto(in)correct.
 
@DroidDev You can turn it off if you want…
 
How to fix an OS X problem:
1. Remove OS X
2. Install sane OS
3. Problem has been solved!
(@Undo isn't going to like me for this... :P)
 
grrrr
 
@Doorknob Great. Now you have platform.unit_.numberOfProblems problems.
 
Hey, you're a cat, not a dog.
 
1:16 PM
Singing: If I was a sabre!…
 
Sam
@Doorknob I was gonna say that, but Apple made me sign an NDA...
 
… I would rip people's meat of their bones …
 
@Unihedro Better try regex.
 
1:17 PM
… If I were a sabre! …
 
@ArceusMaster0493 no
 
… Everyone would use OS X
 
@bjb568 then what's the benefit of it, if you have to turn it off? :P
 
Some people like it.
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 What error message do you get when you try to visit the site?
 
1:18 PM
... like who?
 
Safari: Server dropped connection unexpectedly. Chrome: Connection lost
Firefox: Didn't install
One last time: pastebin.com/TUmpwZS6
^does that help
 
consider a re-install of OS
 
Consider a different OS
 
Sam
Do you have any AV running?
 
1:20 PM
or make your dog lick your hard-drive, that might solve the problem
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@Doorknob meeeeeee
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Kinda sorta.
 
@DroidDev sizzle sizzle buzz kaboom.
 
Any solutions?
 
Sam
Did you recently install any new software/hardware?
 
1:22 PM
6 mins ago, by Doorknob
How to fix an OS X problem:
1. Remove OS X
2. Install sane OS
3. Problem has been solved!
(@Undo isn't going to like me for this... :P)
 
What ISP are you using?
 
2 mins ago, by DroidDev
or make your dog lick your hard-drive, that might solve the problem
 
Sam
17 mins ago, by Sam
Ok. Lets safely assume the only option left is to completely re-format your hard drive and install a proper OS.
 
@DroidDev No dogs.
@DroidDev Plush toy dogs? I have 34.
 
@ArceusMaster0493 house.add(new Dog())
 
1:23 PM
We can send @bjb568 your way
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@ArceusMaster0493 can they lick?
 
a cat should do
 
Sam
lol
 
@Sam I have Windows. Planned to throw away my 4G Memory MacAir.
@DroidDev 5 of them could
@DroidDev *can
 
He said proper.
 
1:23 PM
Hi
 
Not Windows. :P
 
@Doorknob Whoops. missed that completely.
 
@ArceusMaster0493 Windows is not an acceptable platform to use.
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Is your NIC broken?
 
@Unihedro sure is
 
Sam
1:23 PM
@Ahmad Hiya.
 
@Sam Um, Wiki page?
 
Unless you develop in .Net.
 
could one please check this question and say why it is on hold meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/284017/…
 
@ArceusMaster0493 that should do. Just make sure they form a queue and do it in linear fashion
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Network Interface Card (IIRC).
 
1:24 PM
forget to add please
 
@Sam I have no idea. Am I supposed to dissemble my Mac and have a check?
 
DOGS!!
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Basically, do you use an external box thing to connect to your AP?
 
@Ahmad Seems like people are not sure what you are asking about
 
@DroidDev suck
CATZ R BETTAH
 
1:26 PM
@Ahmad Because it is unclear at the specific revision it was closed in. It's still extremely ambiguous.
 
@JanDvorak but I elaborated it as much as I could, why they pay no attention to clear that to me
 
@Sam Um, what is AP
 
Sam
@bjb568 inb4 it's int. opposite day!
 
@Ahmad Sometimes less is more
 
1:26 PM
Note: Complete-noob-at-internet confirmed
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Access Point. Your WiFi hub.
 
s/noob/newb/
a noob is a person who does not want to learn
 
@JanDvorak I agree less is more, but accept your standards always emphase more more, what? how....
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Everyone's a newb when they first start out. You'll learn ;)
 
@Ahmad eh, what?
 
1:27 PM
There IS a slim high rectangular thingy standing under my desk. It's the wifi. then I have another flat big box with 4 sticks peeping out. It's the Wifi as well. I think.
 
@Ahmad What now?
 
@Sam :D Thanks for encouragement
 
@Unihedro you know one thing is that its really a question to me. I now tell it
 
@ArceusMaster0493 Must be the antenna.
 
@ArceusMaster0493 now that I call a highly professional description :-)
 
Sam
1:28 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 Are the 4 sticks antenna shaped?
 
@Sam Yes.
 
If there's only one network cable + power coming in, it's probably a wifi router.
 
@JanDvorak Oh lol.
 
Sam
Congrats! You've found your hub!
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@Sam :D
opens a can of snaffle
*snapple
GAWD IMA TURN OFF DAT AUTO INCORRECT RIGHT NOW
 
1:29 PM
Your system as the guide say let me to create a new account after I was banned and I can post one question per week, So, why you do that? If you are ok with it why I can't use it right now or at least with my current email?
 
If it's stuck to your computer with no wires coming out it could well be an external wifi card
 
see @bjb people are starting to dislike it
 
@Ahmad Who said that?
 
@Ahmad It turns out not to be a clear, descriptive question for 5 (and more) other community members, and it's reflected by how after a grand total of 8!!! revisions it's still not reopened, so while it is a question to you yourself, it's not to others. From my perspective, it's extremely ambiguous and I have no idea what you're asking - to provide conditions? to justify the system? to define what it stands for? to ask for feedback on your current situation?
And plus, either of the four listed possibilities are all close worthy for an MSO post. Except the second last, I guess.
 
@JanDvorak The Famous and only prescribed reading for it, let me to find it
 
1:31 PM
If it's a feature request to prevent second chances, I whole-heartedly disagree
 
So what should I do to let me connect to the website again?
 
@Ahmad It's the new users restrictions. Has nothing to do with new accounts whatsoever. It's listed in the privileges tab as "remove new user restrictions".
 
once per week is plenty of chances, actually
 
@JanDvorak Too much. Too many low quality posts should lead to IP ban imho.
 
Sam
1:31 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 Ok, now is there any small memory stick-shaped box attached to your mac?
 
@Sam Nope. Nothing ATTACHED to my mac.
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Right, so you're using the internal NIC then.
 
Well, of course, except the spaghetti sauce.
Should I count that?
 
@Ahmad He didn't say it was a good idea...
 
Sam
Have you tried using an ethernet cable to connect to the net?
 
1:33 PM
@Sam I don't have an ethernet cab... wait. what is ethernet?
 
you can suggest him to say it is a bad idea
 
Ethernet /ˈiːθərnɛt/ is a family of computer networking technologies for local area networks (LANs) and metropolitan area networks (MANs). It was commercially introduced in 1980 while it was first standardized in 1983 as IEEE 802.3, and has since been refined to support higher bit rates and longer link distances. Over time, Ethernet has largely replaced competing wired LAN technologies such as token ring, FDDI, and ARCNET. The primary alternative for contemporary LANs is not a wired standard, but instead a wireless LAN standardized as IEEE 802.11 and also known as Wi-Fi. The Ethernet standards...
Ah ha.
 
Sam
Yes, it's that ^
 
Nope. My Mac doesn't even have a hole for that.
 
@Unihedro you want to say that all new users have this restriction?
 
Sam
1:34 PM
...
 
@ArceusMaster0493 Ethernet is a technology which builds up simple LANs.
@Ahmad When I say something, I mean what I said, no more, no less. But no.
 
@Unihedro Sadly my Mac is so slim it doesn't have the space for that.
 
Not sure how you inferred it.
 
@JanDvorak good or bad its an option
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Do you have any AV software running?
 
1:34 PM
@Sam what? don't you think hole is a perfect word for that?
 
@Sam What is AV
 
Sam
Anti-Virus
 
@Ahmad Me finding out where you live and drilling a hole in your head is an option too
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@Sam Yes...!
 
Sam
@DroidDev ...
@ArceusMaster0493 temporarily disable it while you try to re-connect.
 
1:35 PM
@Sam It's some useless Anti-virus. It's uh... Avast...? Yeah.
 
@JanDvorak for me it may be the only option
 
@Sam Okey. Trying now.
 
kids these days...
 
@Ahmad keyword: may
 
Sam
Apple these days...
 
1:36 PM
@Ahmad It well may be not. Not sure what you're conveying here.
 
@Sam Lawl. should I disable IPV6?
 
@JanDvorak having friends like you I had not other way :)
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 What? No!
 
@Sam OK.
@Sam That sounded furious.
 
@Ahmad if your only option to prevent your death is to break out of prison, will you?
 
1:37 PM
...
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Depending on what/how your ISP is "doing things", disabling IPV6 may completely disconnect you from the net.
 
@Sam Oh ok.
 
The question and its answer is clear enough, what is unclear is the quote I addressed, please be responsible for that, and instead to be stubborn and show yourself more fool by reason less downvotes or holding the question, think about the further readers....... What should I suppose you to clarify it, what is unclear, cant you see????? — Ahmad 2 days ago
^ NC-pls
 
Sam
Any difference yet?
 
@Sam Oh it says: [tick box]Enable IPv6
 
1:38 PM
My ISP doesn't even support IPv6 ... and their FAQ tells the customers IPv6 is not really all that important
 
If I uncheck it?
 
@Unihedro then you say with no way a banned user can create a new account with that email and creating new one is getting round the ban?
 
@JanDvorak death? Prison? What is going on here?
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Where is this option?
 
@Sam Never mind. I deleted Avast.
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Sam
1:39 PM
lol
 
@Bart You're right... this is a life sentence, not a death sentence.
 
@JanDvorak Oh you don't do? nice!
 
Nope. Didn't really help -- server unexpectedly dropped the connection.
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Now reboot your mac. And try again.
 
@Ahmad The best course of action is not to get into prison
 
1:40 PM
@Ahmad Any attempt of circumvention being made with no good faith assumable will lead to potentially harsh punishments, for the best of most parties.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HELP PLEASE MATHS by Newbie on math.stackexchange.com
 
I think this may be the first time the Tavern is confusing me .... goes to check transcript
 
I love this ruck-us, why don't we try this everyday...say...7pm, TZT?
 
And the winner for the "worst question title ever" goes to...
 
1:41 PM
Drum roll...
 
Probably a newbie
 
I'll be back shortly. Restarting my Mac now.
 
Sam
K, cya in a bit.
 
He used to have 3 rep before I downvoted him.
 
@Unihedro I still should check your answers, but I got that you let a banned user create a new account and just restrict it for one question per week, and its not much wrong please check this, he says the same meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/274417/…, what it says
 
1:42 PM
unposted
 
Sam
@JanDvorak ... now he has -999E999999.
 
poof
 
woof
 
Sam
@bummi CV'd
 
1:43 PM
@JanDvorak but when in a war you got imprisoned you see fleeing your right.
 
@Ahmad And what is unclear about it? And what about having this existing documentation justifies your previous question as clear? I don't see where you're going.
I'll sum up what we have so far of this waterfall discussion:
 
why don't you guys try more philosophical room?
 
@Unihedro he says "These are your options:

You can request account deletion, but you will be limited to one question per week until you've established yourself as a solid contributor, or at least demonstrated a pattern of not making the site worse.
 
@Ahmad I'd wait for justice to come. An attempt to flee may as well end up with a hole in your head (slightly worse fate than an IP ban)
 
@Ahmad That is correct. There is no need to test my reading.
 
Sam
np
 
Back.
Cannot connect to server.
 
@JanDvorak must say I waited for 3 months but judge are so busy that I am afraid I die in prison
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Can you successfully ping the server?
 
@Sam Which means I have to open terminal again
 
Sam
1:46 PM
Yep
 
@Unihedro So, if its correct does it mean can delete my account create one with the same email and be allowed one question per week?
 
@Ahmad *if it's, *I can, *, create
 
@Ahmad It says that, and it may well be true.
 
Up to 138 consecutive days on SO :D
 
Anyway, my summary:
1. You said your question was put on hold and you believed it was clear. I proved that it was not, but you disagreed without giving a solid ground for me to justify it.
2. You then asked something else related to banned accounts and how user restrictions work, which were still ambiguous but I tried answering. You clearly did not pay attention and neglected details which led to loops, so that part was fruitless as well.
3. You're attacking Jan in personal ways without leading to any constructive conclusion.
Bye.
 
1:48 PM
@Unihedro You see? then I wasn't that wrong that there is something like that, what the first you all count it absurd (sorry for my english)
 
~tinyAvatars++;
 
Sam
Hmm.
 
But when I connect to the website it says "cannot connect to server".
 
@Unihedro he was just extending my metaphor
 
Sam
1:49 PM
facepalm
@ArceusMaster0493 The server is down (or you've missed spelled the domain). Simple as that.
 
@JanDvorak k.
 
@Sam But then when I connect with another wifi I can go to that website perfectly smoothly.
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 For me...
> Error code: ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED
 
Sam
1:50 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 Are you sure the url is the same?
@ArceusMaster0493 That's what I get in Chrome.
 
@ArceusMaster0493 It works. Looks minecraft-y.
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 I've already tried it.
 
@Unihedro with @JanDvorak, we have a normal fun chat
 
@Unihedro its a minecraft server website
 
are you kidding with me, is it a game?
 
1:52 PM
Judging from "click below to copy our IP" having a hostname like that, I kind of guessed it.
 
Well then lets not focus on what the website is about.
Let's focus on what the heck is wrong with my internet. :'(
Oh and almost forgot: thank you all for helping me!
 
@ArceusMaster0493 OSX
 
Maybe you need to find your internet settings and reset everything to default.
 
@JanDvorak Good point.
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 I can't ping it.
 
1:53 PM
@Sam Huh?
 
You know, accidentally done static IPs, internal reservations...
 
@JanDvorak hey whats happening? oh again?
 
@Sam I did `ping -c <count> www.arkhamnetwork.org
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 I can not view or ping the site.
 
@Ahmad *what's
@SmokeDetector gone
 
1:54 PM
@Sam Not even with www.arkhamnetwork.org? Wow.
Um...
 
Sam
@JanDvorak And the capitalisation.
 
@JanDvorak one said goodbye with me cause I was bad with you? was I?
 
Sam
@ArceusMaster0493 Yep, nothing at all.
 
@Ahmad I guess so
 
@Sam But I can connect it and view the site www.arkhamnetwork.org normally with my other Wifi!
 
1:55 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 OS X
 
@JanDvorak lol, really? the culture is that diferrent? please whatever you say I may believe
 
The problem is plain and clear in front of your workstation and presented by tavern users. :p
 
@Sam OK. Now it's timeout errors.
:/
 
Sam
Can you successfully view google?
 
1:57 PM
@Unihedro thank you for your help, however we just reach a point that need more clarifications, I just was adressing you were I gathered my information, but the problem still is there
 
But then, why can't I even go to the website and wait for timeout error on my other Wifi?
How about this: A is my current wifi which I cannot view certain websites, while B is my other wifi
And now I can connect to google.com with A and B
 
Sam
A stands for Apple? Well, that just proves it...
 
Eh, maybe it's blocked from a server-client model. The server may have configured settings for firewall independantly for network units A and B.
 
Sam
^
 
@Unihedro So he only blocked A?
 
1:59 PM
@ArceusMaster0493 Potential for anything. Everything can happen.
 

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