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bjb568

00:12

Bobince: "Favourite desktop OS: they're all equally annoying, so might as well go for the free one" Yay, OS X!

Frank

@ElfSlice laugh-out-loud-out-loud-out-loud

ha!

Braiam

00:26

@bjb568 er... no, it cost 50 bucks the update/upgrade

bjb568

No it doesn't.

osxdaily.com/2014/10/16/os-x-yosemite-available-free-download

Braiam

@bjb568 how much cost the update to mavericks?

hichris123

@bjb568 ... more like Linux... and OS X isn't free, soooo...

Braiam

actually, the cost of the OS is included in how much you pay for the hardware

hichris123

@Braiam Yeah, but that's not free. Since you still have to buy something in order to get it.

Braiam

00:31

@hichris123 I'm not sure about how what you said differs from what you said

bjb568

00:45

@Braiam Why would you update to mavericks?

@hichris123 So?

hichris123

@bjb568 It's. Not. Free.

bjb568

It's not like you pay a high price for crappy plastic hardware then $200 for an OS.

hichris123

@bjb568 $200?

bjb568

Mac computer are worth their price anyway without the OS.

@hichris123 Made up number.

user259867

If I remember right, @hichris123 buys computers in parts, so OS cost is not imaginary.

hichris123

00:47

@bjb568 Yeah, no. laughs

@Behaviour well, now I am. :)

Though I'm installing Windows 10 preview on it so it'll be free! :)

(and not quite as crappy as Windows 8)

@bjb568 8.1 Pro is $200, but no one ever needs that, so it's $119.99. microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/Windows-8.1/…

+ if you're a student it's cheaper

bjb568

Whatever. $120 of crapware.

Ugh auto carrot me no like

hichris123

@bjb568 Hey, best software is free software. :P

bjb568

Not necessarily.

hichris123

Well, if you believe in FOSS it is.

(to be fair, I like FOSS, but I realize some software is going to be non-free. And that's okay.)

bjb568

heheh

hichris123

00:52

It's true.

Braiam

well, figure, SE works with a mix of open and closed source apps

bjb568

01:04

Somebody with windows, go test github.com/bjb568/DevDoodle/pull/139

I had to manually implement undo/redo.

hichris123

@bjb568 how?

bjb568

@hichris123 The easies way is to copy paste main.js into a html document with a textarea. Else, you could set up a node server.

hichris123

Ugh, that means work.

bjb568

For FSM's sake. I'll make a jsfiddle.

hichris123

@bjb568 Hey, I'm studying. Ish.

bjb568

01:09

:P

Yeah, totally.

hichris123

I have 5 finals + 1 project that I'm supposed to be studying/working on. Plus a test.

bjb568

jsfiddle.net/aovjauL4

@hichris123 I have 6 finals + spanish homework + essay.

hichris123

@bjb568 Sooo... what am I testing?

@bjb568 ... work on it, then? :P

bjb568

@hichris123 Undo/redo history. Put text in, press control(ugh)-Z.

hichris123

@bjb568 works

bjb568

01:11

Okeydoke.

Pushing it out live…

done

Braiam

what's the difference between finals, test, and essays?

bjb568

Ooh, and it logged me out. Yay, session expires in 30 days! It workey

user259867

@Braiam Final = final exam = you show up in a room, get a paper and work on it for a set period of time.

bjb568

@Braiam Finals are tests that are usually 2-3h long at the end of the semester/year. Tests take at least 45min. Essays are where you write, there are usually essays on tests, but they can also be home/class work.

user259867

Essay = you sit at home typing something (or copy it from somewhere) and hand it in later.

Braiam

01:20

umm... somehow I have to do more or less the three of them for all my classes, so I dunno why are you babling....

well, except the 2-3h long test, I just fill them way too fast

bjb568

Erm… @hichris … I did the jsfiddle totally wrong. jsfiddle.net/aovjauL4/1

I think it should still work tho.

hichris123

@bjb568 Yep, works.

bjb568

yay

Frank

02:26

1 1 3 1 4 2 1 27 23 1 30 10 2 3 8 2 26 11 3 2 8 3 25 11 3 28 11 3 31 18

See a pattern?

(iq test)

Shokhet

02:48

@nicael Oops; fixed.......I made the same mistake I made for Mortarboard, but in reverse; if that makes sense to you :)

Hi @Frank (@J.Musser)

Frank

@Shokhet Hey.

Shokhet

@Frank I have the right person, right? :P

Frank

@Shokhet Yup.

Shokhet

:)

Frank

I'm the lifehacks J. Musser

Shokhet

02:50

And G&L also, right?

;-)

Frank

@Shokhet yup.

Shokhet

I'm getting good at this name-guessing thing :P

Frank

@Shokhet Did someone tell you?

Shokhet

@Frank I think you did, in the LH chat room.

Frank

You can also look through profiles so you don't have to guess.

Shokhet

02:54

We were talking with @Whaaaat, or @Mew, or @DoorHandle whatever he calls himself in TOTM.

(none of the above work here)

Frank

@Shokhet He hasn't een here in a while

Shokhet

Ah. That would do it, then.

I actually have to run now....I figure if @Moosemaniseatingpizza, then I should be able to as well ;-)

See you around, @Frank! :)

Frank

@Shokhet cya man!

Hobo Sapiens

cv-pls Another candidate for today's daftest question: stackoverflow.com/q/27465862/1864610

bjb568

03:35

> Stop making money and fix your software Bill Gates!

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/27465936/google-dev-account

Frank

@bjb568 I likez his softwarez.

Sompuperoo

spam or naa? stackoverflow.com/a/27466031/3041194

hichris123

@bjb568 Bill Gates makes no software anymore. He's only on the Board of Directors of Microsoft, IIRC.

user259867

@Sompuperoo perhaps naa, but if it gets killed as spam, the author has only themselves to blame.

bjb568

03:38

@hichris123 That was the hex dump, you don't need to respond to it.

Frank

@Sompuperoo spam

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/27465836/…

Frank

ohai! I remember you from Lifehacks beta, @Somp.

hichris123

@bjb568 ... that was the hex dump? Ooo....kay....

user259867

@bjb568 or if you do, respond in hex. :)

bjb568

03:41

@hichris123 You can tell it wasn't me because of the lack of comma. And like… maybe a quote.

Sompuperoo

@Frank I remember you from here. I'm an old friend of yours, but I changed my name recently.

user259867

@Frank The artist formerly known as cVplZ and many other things.

Frank

@Sompuperoo Yeah, Inf told me. I forgot.. :D

Haha!

bjb568

Stop changing your names!

Frank

@bjb568 I did

bjb568

03:42

Wait what?

Unihedro

This is on its third reboot after the previous two SI's got closed for inactivity!

hichris123

Oh, come on @Sompuperoo, can you plz be @cVplZ again?

Sompuperoo

@bjb568 I've been changing my name like once ever 45 days on average since I've been here. I do agree that people shouldn't change their names before 30 days is up. They should follow the rules, even if the system is bugged.

status-declined

@Unihedro ha, same thing/person gets boring after a while

bjb568

@Sompuperoo Why not just never change it?

Way less confusing.

> Avid Enthusiast or Prosumer

Frank

@bjb568 I changed my name. Was that confusing?

bjb568

03:50

I don't remember you not being Frank.

Sompuperoo

J. Musser

bjb568

Oh yeah.

Well, I guess I just look at the tree.

Frank

confusing?

Sompuperoo

J. Musser isn't a good name for a tree. I would never name one of my trees J. Musser

bjb568

Eh, Frank is a lot better than J. Musser, plus you're a tree.

Frank

03:51

@bjb568 true, the dp is very important.

When identifying users

Sompuperoo

there's not that many new users that stay in the tavern more than a few days. So it's easy to spot if a regular has changed their persona.

Andy

<---- I just have a boring green icon

Frank

@Sompuperoo True.

bjb568

@Sompuperoo But adds unnecessary confusion.

<---- I IZ KEWL KITTEH WITH KEWL GLASSES BUHT IZ FROZENZ

Frank

@Andy yeah, same with @hichris123... except his is pink

Andy

03:54

We are cool and don't need fancy pictures

bjb568

If hichris turns green, I won't know what to do with my life.

I recognize hichris by his pinkness.

Sompuperoo

@bjb568 yea, but even like Girls will change their hair style to something different, and it's like "Hey there's a new good looking broad here!", but then it's the same gal just with new look

user259867

SE chat should go xkcd1305 style, at least for holidays or April 1st.

user259867

> And it doesn't pop up a box every time asking you to use your real name. In fact, there's no way to set your name at all. You just have to keep reminding people who you are.

Sompuperoo

or it could just snow stars for winter bash

user259867

03:58

Ooh I haven't looked at the counter today yet. Usually I keep it in a separate full-screen window.

user259867

yesterday, by Behaviour

When the Winterbash Countdown drops below 100000, should it become 5-digit, or with a leading zero?

user259867

Now we have the answer. 5-digit.

Sompuperoo

it's in seconds , so it should lose digits.. if it was in hour/min/second format than keep zeros

hichris123

@bjb568 I am pink.

@Frank It's not boring! Look at Tim Stone's picture!

bjb568

@Sompuperoo That's IRL. I don't know people IRL. Not a valid comparison.

Frank

04:01

@hichris123 which is boring

hichris123

@bjb568 ... wait, you know no one in real life? That's sad.

:P

bjb568

:P

Frank

:2777453 Seen it.

Sompuperoo

@hichris123 I wonder if Tim sleeps with his identicon

hichris123

@Frank But that's not boring, is it?

Frank

04:02

@hichris123 yes it is.

hichris123

@Sompuperoo I dunno, ask @TimStone.

Sompuperoo

@hichris123 nooo, he's busy updating the sede with data entry, 482838283 characters left to type in

seems like spam stackoverflow.com/q/27230361

bjb568

VLQ'd… not sure.

user259867

@Sompuperoo The answerer seems legit, although he should have disclosed affiliation in the answer, not only in the profile. The question is awful, but probably not spam.

Sompuperoo

ok, just voted to close

Sompuperoo

04:26

Hi @SantaClaus!

Santa Claus

@Sompuperoo Hi.

bjb568

Is it supposed to work?

Cause it doesn't.

user259867

@bjb568 Can you share the link you are using? Just the answering dialog with captcha parameter appended?

bjb568

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/245100/… noonebox

user259867

So, I get captcha. Then either it says okay, or I get a number to read, or I get puppies to click. In any case, the answer is not posted: I am back to the page with the draft of my answer. Is this what you are seeing, @bjb568 ?

bjb568

04:39

Yeah.

Sompuperoo

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@Sompuperoo Registered as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Unihedro

I'm using Chrome. I'm presented a button to click for "I'm not robot" and it does nothing.

Basically, it glows up and a tick appears, and the captcha fulfills, but it doesn't advance me even if I hit the SE button for "I'm not robot".

bjb568

Not seeing an SE button.

Unihedro

Eh, there isn't one.

hichris123

04:43

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 98.7884: How do I repair the corrupted files found by sfc /scannow? “Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some of them.” on superuser.com

Sompuperoo

SPAM stackoverflow.com/questions/27455679/…

SPAM stackoverflow.com/a/27466326/3041194

bjb568

gonegone

dustin

Greetings. I have a question for whom every wants or is willing to answer. I am looking to get a book for a professional programmer. They will be already receiving the book Clean Code so that one is out of the question. What would be some other options for professional?

bjb568

A paper book?

dustin

@bjb568 That is what he would prefer since he is on a computer all day.

bjb568

04:54

Why?

dustin

@bjb568 That is what he would prefer since he is on a computer all day. I didn't mean to over write my last post as an edit.

bjb568

@bjb568 Corrected.

@dustin Meh, did he really say that? Heheh.

dustin

@bjb568 yes

bjb568

@dustin That's weird.

@bjb568 dup branch

dustin

@bjb568 what is dup branch?

bjb568

04:58

2 mins ago, by bjb568

@bjb568 Corrected.

2 mins ago, by bjb568

@dustin Meh, did he really say that? Heheh.

@bjb568 Rev 0

dustin

@bjb568 is Rev 0 a book?

2

bjb568

@bjb568 Many confuse

Sompuperoo

@dustin do you know what programming languages he works with?

@dustin here is some questions on SO about books stackoverflow.com/questions/1711/… , stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/… , stackoverflow.com/questions/38210/…

dustin

@Sompuperoo he uses Python but I know clean code isn't a Python specific book so I don't think a code specific is necessary. He knows other languages as well.

bjb568

Python? Paper? Oh, he's weird.

user259867

05:03

The first link given by Somp has plenty of options (Clean Code is one of many on the list).

bjb568

Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Copy of Untitled.doc

Ooh kewl

dustin

@Behaviour I am looking at it now.

Sompuperoo

I've found it hard to buy books for people. I'd probably just give a $20 amazon gift card or something.

dustin

@Sompuperoo I looking to get a book since it shows more thought.

bjb568

1 min ago, by bjb568

Rev 0

? :P

@bjb568 or first part.

@dustin Meh, consumerism is more important.

I noticed hichris looks more purple when he's big but more pink when he's small with the white parts blending in.

wat. auto carrot make hichris haters?

hichris123

05:13

Apparently I hate things.

Auto carrot? :p

bjb568

Nov 3 at 3:29, by bjb568

Me auto carrot no like.

user259867

I hate things too. Delete all the things.

3

user259867

2319 delete votes so far.

bjb568

VLQ

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Why does weight loss lower blood pressure? by Mew on biology.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: extundelete - failed to read-only open device “/dev/sdb”: Error code 2133571347 by Gene Mills on askubuntu.com

bjb568

05:37

Night!

SmokeDetector

05:54

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: FASTEST WAY OF FINDING THE POWER SET OF A SET by wonder on stackoverflow.com

Unihedro

06:09

@Behaviour deletes your account

user259867

Been there, done that.

user273376

well, @Behaviour - our friend is a tad rude isn't he?

user273376

this character meta.stackexchange.com/questions/245105/…

user259867

Yes, I understood... it wasn't necessary for me to comment either, but then I thought that the copy-paste job should be pointed out as undesirable.

user273376

yup, indeed

user259867

06:19

What's with the new avatar? It's like Unihedro in higher resolution.

user273376

LOL my avatar is watching you

Unihedro

@SabreTooth I flagged the two comments as not constructive.

user273376

@Unihedro i flagged as well

TGMCians

o/

Unihedro

\o

user273376

06:31

\0/ (cause I am fat)

Unihedro

o//

TGMCians

\\o

Unihedro

■

\o/

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[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: extundelete - failed to read-only open device “/dev/sdb”: Error code 2133571347 by Gene Mills on askubuntu.com

user259867

@Unihedro fp-plz ^ (this came up twice)

Unihedro

06:43

messageId pls (on mobile)

user259867

@Unihedro It's 2777595

Unihedro

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@Unihedro Registered as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Unihedro

\o/

TGMCians

07:01

can you guys nuke-pls this

nuke-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27467083/…

Sompuperoo

08:14

SPAM? stackoverflow.com/a/27462137/3041194

Unihedro

@Sompuperoo Is it "effectively an advertisement with no disclosure. It is not useful or relevant, but promotional."?

Sompuperoo

Seen other spam posts before with that hosting provider. Flagged as spam.

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/22879845/1699210

nicael

@Sompuperoo Spam.

And, btw, winerbash countdown thinks that there are 100 seconds in the minute. Bug?

Unihedro

@nicael There are 100 seconds in a winterbashminute, yes.

status-bydesign

nicael

08:30

@Unihedro {citation-needed}

Andrew T.

I just opened the winterbash site again and saw 55555! I'm feeling lucky!

Bart

Surely now you'll get all the hats

Sompuperoo

can't we have the countdown iframed in the right side bar of tavern?

2

nicael

^^^ plz

Sompuperoo

and another request, please snow stars in the tavern

2

nicael

09:10

56 mins ago, by Sompuperoo

SPAM? http://stackoverflow.com/a/27462137/3041194

just reminding

It is SPAM for sure.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DIFFEREICTAE TABLE AND ATTACHMENT by Good Taofiq on drupal.stackexchange.com

nicael

09:27

-1

Q: The invention Magnuswolzen ...so far is only a petition, not yet patented

Magnuswalzen ... is merely a patent petition or application, not yet a patent as, however, you have specified it. The number DE 10 2009 061 062 A1 makes clear - by the ending A1 - that this petition has been laid bare /made public, but is not yet patented. Then it would bear the ending C2 . I am...

wat..

Bart

Flagged as unclear

nicael

Hey, stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6478501

too silent there.

Sompuperoo

09:43

@nicael I want 0.5 reputation for approving that

give @Bart 0.5 too

bummi

@nicael would it be possible to assume good faith and edit out the spammy link?

Sompuperoo

@bummi in this case I would say no, since this isn't the first time I've had to flag spam that contained that hosting provider

bummi

@Sompuperoo ok, did see this one only in questions until now

nicael

@Sompuperoo Why?..

@bummi It is and would be NAA anyway. Better just nuke it.

Sompuperoo

@nicael I want my cut... I need rep! Spread the wealth!

nicael

09:54

@Sompuperoo U need rep? You lost already 30 reps by downvoting today, don't think you really need it :D (not saying that down voting bad answers is bad).

Hobo Sapiens

Nuke, please cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/27468119/1864610

Sompuperoo

@nicael wait, how do you know that I lost rep from downvoting answers today, just assuming?

Unihedro

10:10

@Sompuperoo That information is not publicly available.

TGMCians

@HoboSapiens kaboom

nicael

@Sompuperoo Now it is exactly -7. You down voted many answers today, many votes were removed (or undone), now today you lost 7 reps from downvoting answers.

@Unihedro ;)

Unihedro

I might have a guess on how you figure out that number, @nic. :P

nicael

@Unihedro Guess yourself :D I'm trying to figure out many things, that sometimes become useful :D

TGMCians

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27020264/video-card-comparison

Bart

10:26

Note to self: prepare for when nicael will turn evil

nicael

btw, I noticed an upvote on my old-old question there and... realized that H2CO3 (I knew this user, had > 100k as far I remember, he can be seen as closer of my question) had deleted himself... pity.

Bart

Yeah. Happened during the previous election

nicael

Interesting, how many such high-rep users are deleted?

Bart

Not a clue. Some just simply leave

nicael

@Bart I mean deleting themselves (asking for deletion).

Bart

10:34

Yeah, I know. Couldn't give you a figure. And I guess those who could won't give it to you.

Sompuperoo

probably not very many with over 100k rep

@nicael care to tell me like how many flags have I done?

Jan Dvorak

offensive gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/62878/…

Bart

Indeed. Should have been "You're"

nicael

I found this user! web.archive.org/web/20140121120152/http://stackoverflow.com/…

Bart

Not all that difficult to find. But a shame he left. (If he isn't back under another name). A bit abrasive at times, but generally good.

nicael

10:40

And he only was deleted on SO, there is his MSE account (also can be seen linked in archived profile). And all other accounts there.

Jan Dvorak

10:52

nuke-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27468560/…

closed ... and a pending edit from a 1.5ker

ProgramFOX

Rejected.

Jan Dvorak

\o/

TGMCians

I don't know why people edit crap questions

ProgramFOX

Rep?

Jan Dvorak

pro-tip: if you want a suggested edit URL, right-click the edit(1) button => copy url

TGMCians

10:58

ah for +2 they do shit

ProgramFOX

@TGMCians Unfortunately, yes :/

TGMCians

@ProgramFOX and you know what happened finally. rejected.

no rep

Jan Dvorak

They didn't quite do enough here, though, and left the titanic half-unpainted

TGMCians

@JanDvorak finally gone

\o/

Jan Dvorak

@TGMCians finally

TGMCians

11:02

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27468618/…

nuke-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27468607/…

SmokeDetector

11:49

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SmokeDetector

12:27

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: FUNCTIONS OF ONE COMPLEX VARIABLE by Santhanu Sasikumar on math.stackexchange.com

rene

12:45

Oooh, I didn't know Community user was a lady. Explains why she is so polite...

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: FUNCTIONS OF ONE COMPLEX VARIABLE by Santhanu Sasikumar on math.stackexchange.com

rene

What is wrong? Did Windows disable support for LOWER CASE?

bummi

@rene can't edit your comment out :(

rene

13:10

Add a triage queue for chat messages ;)

bummi

Shall I bring it to Meta? (expecting downvotes)

rene

@bummi Maybe wait for the start of winterbash and earn the 'asked a question' hat?

bummi

You might prepare an answer and earn Chuck Yeager

rene

13:28

If we agree to upvote each other I guess we get suspended before winterbash has started ;)

bummi

No, I'd expect you to close my question within seconds ;)

ProgramFOX

@rene Don't you know? It's a secret hat: getting suspended the day before Winter Bash starts.

rene

At least that is doable. I'll start StackBot

2

bummi

@ProgramFOX and nobody will be able to see it ;)

rene

real secret

bummi

13:31

@rene I'll visit you in suspension ;)

Sompuperoo

TIL that community user is a female :)

rene

47 mins ago, by rene

Oooh, I didn't know Community user was a lady. Explains why she is so polite...

Unihedro

@rene So it was you all along!! :O

rene

Is it homework sunday or what?

Unihedro

It's almost holiday and the students have to submit their work and projects, so.

Sompuperoo

13:34

midterms coming up this week?

TGMCians

@Unihedro submit your flag history as project. nice work :p :D

2

Unihedro

@TGMCians I prefer meta participation report :P

TGMCians

lol

rene

This not how SO works, sorry. We expect you to do the effort and when you're stuck we can help out. Visit the tour and How to Ask to learn more — rene 24 secs ago

TGMCians

@rene well rene

bummi

13:39

ups good to point it out

Sompuperoo

> This is not how the Tavern works, sorry. We except stars and more stars. Visit the description of the Tavern when you have time.

3

rene

I had time....

bummi

@rene btw. I'm missing Pham :(

Jan Dvorak

No spam today, though

rene

Maybe @sam knows where @pham is?

bummi

13:43

for sure

Andrew T.

abusive android.stackexchange.com/a/91660/44325

Sompuperoo

@JanDvorak spoke to soon SPAM stackoverflow.com/a/27469824/3041194

ProgramFOX

@Sompuperoo kaboom

TGMCians

@ProgramFOX can you pls look here also android.stackexchange.com/questions/73223/…

ProgramFOX

Already flagged.

TGMCians

13:46

Good. thanks

bummi

things get closed slowly sometimes stackoverflow.com/q/27469705/1699210

TGMCians

status-closed

rene

Put at least some minimal effort in so your code looks nicely formatted and with an indication where you get which syntaxerror. — rene 20 secs ago

bummi

second view please, on answer is in the VLQ stackoverflow.com/q/8627667/1699210

rene

@Sompuperoo can you again come up with a nice Tavern variation on this

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