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00:02
@Braiam Yes, and? There's two examples... out of how many closures? And one of the people who closed it even asked for the link to double check... I'm not seeing this as a major problem.
"Value of 'e' may be overwritten in IE 8 and earlier." lol, skrew you, IE
@hichris123 "two", you want me to track down all the nastiness of the moderators?
that's foolish, I have better things to do
@Braiam Well, if you're going to say something is a problem, you need examples. Also: might want to avoid characterizing all moderators.
@hichris123 "you need examples" more?
and I had to, because I already raised concerns several times with all of them
and by all I mean each one of them, one on one
@Braiam There have been 117,122 close vote reviews on AU. 2 reviews == 0.001% . Shows that someone was wrong perhaps, but doesn't point to a major problem.
@hichris123 I don't know how many I have to search to convince you, and simply, I'm not going to, you want to prove me wrong? Do your homework, I was in the site for 1.5 years, I know what is going on
@Braiam No, I'm simply saying two examples does not prove a problem is going on. Remember: you're not convincing me, you're convincing your peers in the AU community.
00:56
@hichris123 I gave up on that, I "convinced" them going by the +13 score, what changed? Nothing, and nothing will change until someone really cracks down on moderation the right way
"the right way" == "the technical accurate way"
my point is/was that moderators are not all knowing, therefore actually clearing the close queue without an actual knowledge of what's being asked is not healthy for any site, which is more important on sites where there are many diverse topics
@Braiam You convinced 13 people perhaps... but did you convince them to change anything? You might have simply convinced them there's a problem.
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Q: Let's stop using "How do I resolve unmet dependencies?" for dpkg questions (and probably for most apt questions)

BraiamThe most used close target for apt/dpkg questions is this. However, that does not help if the problem is not with apt but with the underlying dpkg. I very often find things like these when I check the apt and dpkg tags and that really bugs me. How can an APT question solve a DPKG problem? Unfort...

tell me I have not tried...
and please, just drop being a proxy
01:15
Hi Qantas.
You could argue that dealing with the queue with reasonable accuracy is better than nothing.
I think the cutoff point is around 87%.
Or if it's better than the current system.
(probably not)
@AsafKaragila Five-year old children are generally not considered toddlers. — Behaviour 26 secs ago
I was about to say that!
user259867
01:30
Some comments are disposable. Is it a good practice to end them with "(flag this when you've read it; accept rate)"?
user259867
Probably not. But on MathJax-enabled sites one can do $\vphantom{accept rate}$ which is invisible and should work the same way -- auto-deleted after one flag.
Probably, the question is, why do they want to do that?
user259867
If my comment serves only to point out a typo on a post I can't edit (mod nomination, for example), it would make sense for it to be gone at once when read.
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02:28
wat
went away on reload
There is ZyXEL router...
your internet hiccupped, the modem tried to redirect to the error page on https, selfcertificate kaput safary, profit @bjb568
02:51
I feel dumb posting this but... Whilst this may theoretically answer the question, it would be preferable to include the essential parts of the answer here, and provide the link for reference. — J. Musser 1 min ago
@Braiam … profit?
Giving it to a 141k user on an upvoted answer on his own site...
user259867
References to scholarly resources, such as OEIS, are treated a bit differently from random internet links. OEIS is not just a website; it's a catalog that enumerates integer sequences. The reference A130693 identifies such a sequence and the entry about it.
lel devdoodle.net/chat/3#2794 PHP vs Node settled
user259867
I am less worried about OEIS disappearing, than about Math.SE getting tarballed for whatever reason.
02:55
I'm worried that it's annoying that's's not in front of my face.
Why do I want to click to go to OEIS?
user259867
I don't, really. I briefly considered editing, but don't care. The OP could have searched and found OEIS directly. Also, concerning "upvoted answer"... it's SO users who upvoted it, coming from Hot Network List.
@bjb568 income - cost - spend = profit?
user259867
When I hear about how Math.SE is not-really-SE with its hinting answers etc, I usually recall who provides lion's share of views and upvotes to one-line, easy-to-digest, answers to simple questions.
@Behaviour Yes, but it doesn't change the fact that if the link goes dead or something, it will render the answer useless. Even scholarly, reputable articles should be summed up in the answer, using the resource as a backing rather than the main part of the answer.
LPT: THERE'S A MLA "RESEARCH PAPER" TEMPLATE IN PAGES OHHH THE HORROR
user259867
03:00
@Frank I disagree. Let's remove the link already. What I get from the answer is: (a) this is a known open problem; (b) it is stated in OEIS.
(c) but doesn't tell me if there are other numbers that fulfills the conditions stated on the question
user259867
For context, OEIS has been in existence for 50 years (not always online, of course -- as a catalog). SE will be mightily lucky to last that long.
@bjb568 Remember, math is easy for you. figure out that little problem ^^ :)
It's a solution.
Oct 20 at 2:30, by bjb568
44/50 points for my essay. 1/5 for MLA guidelines?! WTH? It isn't like I did it in comic sans! WTH are MLA guidelines anyway?
Not a solute.
Bwahahahaha
@Behaviour He could at least add a quote from that page...
03:05
I'm an established user on android.se!
@AndrewT. Grats man!
1k is a nothing milestone.
@bjb568 lies - it's awesome.
@bjb568 okay.jpg...
@bjb568 Hey I'm only over 1k on one site...
due to bounties
03:09
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INTERPRET PARTIAL AUTOCORRELATION by Alexis182b on stats.stackexchange.com
Well, at least you get vote counts.
anyway, it'd be hard to stay 1k due to downvoting since I noticed there are many NAAs again...
NAAs should be deleted fairly quickly.
Else you need to complain on meta.
but there are no active mods currently... android.se is almost a ghost town populated by 1-rep users who bump a question by NAA.
user259867
Oh noes, where are the units? — bjb568 5 mins ago
user259867
03:16
Coefficient of correlation is a unitless quantity. Lag is measured in units of time; which ones, makes no difference for the question.
@AndrewT. You get your rep back when they're deleted.
[ SmokeDetector ] Numbers-only title: 111111111111111111111111111111111111 by wirm on superuser.com
numbers-only title? that's rare
user259867
@SmokeDetector No s**t, Sherlock
03:29
Yay, Travis kind of works.
@hichris123 congrats
yay
now, add test for the websockets thingy that breaks each blue moon
along with a note saying "black magic ahead. babaji was here"
Did the development of new power sources during the industrial revolution directly enable the exponential growth of technical knowledge thru freeing humans from labor during the industrial revolution?
03:36
@bjb568 it was one of them
@Braiam Why not yellow moon?
@Braiam lol
That's for tomorrow.
@Braiam okey
Whatever, english teacher probably don't have a clue.
it was not an history question...? wth?
History is about memorizing useless crap.
user259867
03:38
s/exponential/rapid or something. exponential is for y=Ae^{bx}.
English gives me at least some free reign with what I do that it has some usefulness.
facepalm
@Behaviour I know what exponential is. But isn't that what is going on?
user259867
I don't know. What are the units in which technical knowledge is measured? I don't think you can quantify it meaningfully.
user259867
And "exponential" suggests a quantitative assessment of the growth trend.
03:40
Ooh technical and technological are different things. Ugh.
I think that in this case exponential is metaphoric rather than mathematic
user259867
And I don't like it to be, that's all. English has non-mathematical words that serve the same purpose.
for some reason, engraver and gigolo has similar writing in sangul...
translating something with google is both traumatic and funny
BTW, why is everything e^x? Like if it's 2^x what's the point in making it e^ln(2)x"
because it's natural in Mathematics to use natural number
don't kick me
03:47
But I like 2.
Next they'll teach e/e + e/e = xe/e, x being the the first prime (a number divisible by only itself and e/e).
ermagurd
people used modems which could download ks!
Ho. Ho. Ho.
user259867
04:04
@bjb568 The reason to use e as the base of exponential is that (e^x)' = e^x. With any other base you pick up some annoying factor that you have to carry thru the entire subsequent calculation (be it differentiation, integration, the solution of a differential equation...)
Er herm. d2^x/dx = ln(2)2^x. de^ln(2)x/dx = ln(2)e^ln(2)x
wonders why no formatting here
d2^x/dx=ln22^x;de^ln2x/dx=e^ln2xln2
^ Hah, more evil
user259867
There is no MathJax anywhere on chat, not even in rooms associated with MathJax-enabled sites.
Y U NO MATHJAX?
user259867
I don't really know why, because high traffic & dependency (usual explanation given for SO) don't apply here.
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Q: Any chance of MathJax in chat?

MajenkoIt would be really nice to be able to use Mathjax (math formulas) in chat. Not specially for formulae, but for things like \$V_{CC}\$ in electronics chat would be very useful.

04:15
There is a userscript for it.
user259867
Anyway, doing calculus with logarithm/exponential base other than e is much like using degrees instead of radians for angle in sin and cos functions. No conceptual change, but more clutter.
user259867
Imagine: (sin x)' = (pi/180) * cos(x), and so forth. (This is if we measured angle in degrees)
eek
But you get constants coming out of chain rule (or u-sub) anyway.
user259867
Yes, like in (sin(3x))'. But at least those are constants we already see in the function, not some extra stuff.
But deriv/integral of 2^x vs e^(ln(2)*x) is the same thing… probably less ugly in the first case.
user259867
04:24
True. Anyway, let's not bore the Tavern with derivatives... anyone read some good spam lately?
What, derivatives are fun!
You can physics, you can graph, you can limit, you can hospital, you can rate, you can model, you can happy!
Will undeleting self-answer notify OP (asker)?
@bjb568 Wow, you just verbed so many words there.
\o/
Is there a reason ^ got a timestamp?
Nobody noticed I said hospital? :P
L'Hôpital!
user259867
04:33
> please help I am trying to restore my world
helps
With a flag >:)
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Q: How do I ask Minecraft Questions?

Memor-XThis Meta Question is the result from This Meta Question ready to be used for the solution presented by This Answer and made using the similar format to This Anime/Manga Meta Question. (I am assuming that solution will be used, otherwise this still makes a great single stop reference for us to ma...

user259867
@bjb568 There's nothing wrong with that spelling: he himself wrote the name L'Hospital. The change to L'Hôpital is a later change in French orthography. On Math, we use "lhospital" in a tag because it's the correct non-diacritic version.
Huh.
TIL
user259867
Whichever way you write it, the word does mean "hospital" in French.
04:37
Weird parents naming child hospital.
ur gr8 liek sik pople insid u
user259867
That's not his given name...
user259867
Guillaume François Antoine, Marquis de l'HôpitalFrench pronunciation: ​[ɡijom fʁɑ̃swa ɑ̃twan maʁki də lopiˈtal] (?, 1661, Paris – 2 February 1704, Paris) was a French mathematician. His name is firmly associated with l'Hôpital's rule for calculating limits involving indeterminate forms 0/0 and ∞/∞. Although the rule did not originate with l'Hôpital, it appeared in print for the first time in his treatise on the infinitesimal calculus, entitled Analyse des Infiniment Petits pour l'Intelligence des Lignes Courbes. This book was a first systematic exposition of differential calculus. Several editions...
Oh. Hm… where do family names even come from?
Doesn't somebody give it?
user259867
> To give Guillaume de l'Hôpital's full name would take a whole paragraph so we give just a much shortened version: Guillaume-François-Antoine Marquis de l'Hôpital, Marquis de Sainte-Mesme, Comte d'Entremont and Seigneur d'Ouques-la-Chaise -- his bio
04:45
asdvklj
(face falls on keyboard)
user259867
The bio itself is quite interesting; he wasn't your typical scientist/mathematician. Stated (too) harshly, he bought calculus theorems, including that rule. Paid good money, too.
@SmokeDetector fp
@AndrewT. Registered as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
@hichris123 pob/too-broad
Your mom goes to college.
05:23
@jadarnel27 She just wants an education...
For science!
That too.
user259867
^ One of a few times I had to look up explainxkcd.
I've had to use it so many times.
05:39
But not on that one, oddly enough.
user259867
English wasn't spoken in my schoolyards...
"Girls go to Jupiter to get more stupider" is just so memorable.
user259867
But those are boys.
@Behaviour I thought that might be why =)
@Behaviour It all depended on who was saying the rhyme.
user259867
The third panel is far more strongly associated for me with
user259867
05:42
"Girls & Boys" is a 1994 song by British rock band Blur. It was released as the lead single from the group's third album Parklife. Charting at number 5 on the UK Singles Chart, "Girls & Boys" was Blur's first top 5 hit and their most successful single until "Country House" reached number 1 the following year. The single was seen as a comeback for the band, who had had a lean commercial period for a couple of years. It surpassed their previous commercial peak "There's No Other Way" by three spots on the UK Singles Chart, and saw the group achieve greater worldwide success. In the US, the track reached...
Morning!
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: Profit and Loss Question by sumer on math.stackexchange.com
Morning!
erm...
user259867
False positive, although the question is crisp.
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@SmokeDetector fpu?
05:51
@AndrewT. Registered as false positive, added title to Bayesian doctype 'good', whitelisted user.
user259867
Where crisp means I was autocorrected.
@hichris123 why
06:24
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: カートリッジ・キーパー♪アーカイブ by bagprada on drupal.stackexchange.com
user259867
@hichris123 bot still does not capture bagprada. (?)
user259867
06:48
^ nvm, it just did. Don't know what I was looking at
benefit of the doubt. The URLs end with .png and the words match the question's topic.
the answer disappeared
the original revision seems trying to promote his site...
and its homepage is unreadable by most of us
meh, the question is set too roomba in like 9 days
08:11
[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 95.1928: I got a problem . please help me fast ^ ^ on math.stackexchange.com
user259867
They damn well better be. — Robert Harvey 9 mins ago
user259867
Ahem. Not that I don't sympathize with Robert Harvey's position, but... this never works for an outsider.
Welcome to StackOverflow. We don't do step-by-step guides. We can assist if you follow a step-by-step guide and are stuck. To help we need a question that contains enough information to help you and future visitors. To better understand this site please take the tour and visit How to Ask. — rene 27 secs ago
at -7 now
user259867
@JanDvorak gone
member for 27 months, first visible activity is that question
@Sompuperoo I believe so
08:44
Hmmm, I'm in a restaurant (due to a traffic jam). The cappuccino is great, the allowed connections over the wifi not so...
@Sompuperoo In dubio pro reo ?
@bummi yea, in doubt, i wasn't sure, that's why i asked, very poor question either way
09:01
Another "you should use jQuery for that" answer stackoverflow.com/a/27374905/993547 which is just totally wrong
OP Updated the answer
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Miracle Product Of Weight Loss by harrietzara on math.stackexchange.com
[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 96.7098: Miracle Product Of Weight Loss on math.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector tpu
09:14
@AndrewT. Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad' and blacklisted user.
woof @Sompuperoo :)
@Sompuperoo Gone. Flagged the original account, since it is SPAM too.
09:29
-14 without even linking to the tavern meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/278788/… till now
@Sompuperoo what on earth did the OP expect to happen?
@Sompuperoo I agree with the OP, they really should nuke the user.
Just kidding, that's nonsense.
Just nuke the accounts of those who click on the link.
I thought about leaving an answer that SE isn't a Nazi corporation, but meh
Sam
Sam
09:38
Morning
inb4 Godwin
Morning @Sam!
Spam A (86.2%): Do you need 100% Finance? I can service your fi..., by Austin Gift, on money.stackexchange.com.
Sam
Sam
So it's @Unihedro now? :D
Sam
Sam
^ cv-plz
yesterday, by Sompuperoo
Winterize!!!
Spam A (100%): CEH v8 TRAINING IN DUBAI: We would like to shar..., by Sathish Kumar, on pm.stackexchange.com.
Spam Q (91.1%): Two kinds of hormones are released into your body, by smittiesegoviia, on drupal.stackexchange.com.
09:56
"ethical hacker"..
spam alive?
the one on pm.se
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A: Which action should I take if I already voted to close outside the VLQ queue?

nicaelYou'll just get "this item is not reviewable" and won't be able to review it. So you can't take any action on it :) And btw, there is no "no action needed" in VLQ review queue, there is "looks ok".

Wait, a downvote? Why?..
10:09
@nicael reasons
Lost keys I guess
this is inspirational.. — Kokizzu Nov 11 at 4:41
@AndrewT. definitively
@nicael Because people disagree
(Not saying I was)
10:15
Low Quality Q (29.7%): Can you help me with my code? C# strings, by user2559609, on stackoverflow.com.
@nicael that seems like what the system ought to do, logically speaking, now I don't actually know how it works behind scenes to say if you are right or wrong
maybe a shouldiblamecaching.com case....
Low Quality A (20.2%): what is (e) ? im totaly noobs on programming, by noobCoder, on stackoverflow.com.
Sam
Sam
^ free naa flags
YAY! outspoken badge on SO!! :D
10:40
@DroidDev Yay! one more week and you would probably have got an hat alongside it... but since you have got it now, no luck for you.
@SPArchaeologist ...or maybe you guys can start starring my messages anytime I post one, then, I'll keep getting those?
> This badge can only be awarded once.
Spam A (70.9%): sorry for hearing your sad stories. I was wonde..., by Kemmy, on serverfault.com.
@DroidDev you will have to wait like I did for the I got Your point unicorn hat last year. :P
@Unihedro was talking about MSE...
10:46
@DroidDev Was talking about the badge. Read the description.
Low Quality Q (39.6%): how mail service work?, by Jani Harsh, on stackoverflow.com.
Sam
Sam
^nuke-pls
11:04
[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 73.5059: i have to resolve this problem step by step on math.stackexchange.com
@JanDvorak wow, 6 hours old spam...
Low Quality Q (39.3%): Comparable vs comparator in java best answer, by sRk, on stackoverflow.com.
Sam
Sam
^ nuke-plz
yay! flagging spam after a week..
Offensive A (91.9%): **** ** **** ******* ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ****, by *****, on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com.
Low Quality Q (39.3%): Jquery Ajax Cross-domain full example?, by Wasseem Abou Alburghol, on stackoverflow.com.
spam gone ^
Sam
Sam
12:06
^ cv-pls
1 more cv ^
Tah dah! Unihedro to the rescue!
hahaha.. ooo... you are a suuuuperrr man.. ;)
12:27
But seriously, what's the best IDE for MongoDB?
I've been using Ace.
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Q: PHP Auto Sum dynamic textboxes

srinivas reddyI am new bie in php my table fields internal external total result i want insert internal marks and also insert external marks my question is auto sum internal + external then display third textbox and check external marks => 26 and total marks =>40 then display fourth textbox P else display...

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SEARCH API WITH SOLR by user25462 on drupal.stackexchange.com
Low Quality Q (39.3%): Applying video effects over the S5 camera, by Kit Webster, on stackoverflow.com.
Sam
Sam
^ cv-plz
NAA: stackoverflow.com/a/27379030/993547 it is a follow up from the previous answer
12:41
@Unihedro cv-pls, recommendation
@Bart cv-pls, not star-worthy
:D
LQ keyword: (?i)^which\b
@JanDvorak tempted for POB
or that
12:48
I'm skipping. I can't make up my mind.
eeny meeny miney mole... POB!
> You voted to close this question Nov 28 at 15:40
But the votes expired. There are currently no active pending CVs.
careers box seems to be borked
@Unihedro it's still on /review?
13:17
[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 57.1819: Information Security Awareness among IT employee and IT specialist on security.stackexchange.com
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A: Who has the power to edit or delete another person's comments, and what justifies the edit or deletion

KitFoxOnly moderators and the commenter have the ability to edit or delete comments, and commenters can only edit within a short timeframe. I added the comments tag to this question. You can find posts related to these activities within that tag. Please feel free to post another Meta question if you ha...

^ ELU mod's awful answer forced me to post an answer on their meta :(
@InfiniteHappiness s/six/three/
any combination of 3 flags on comments autonuke them
Thanks @Braiam for the correction :)
@KitFox ^^
@InfiniteHappiness maybe you also want to drop the help-center link to the commenting privilege
13:22
Hiya Inf. Good to see you here again :)
I am always here @Bart :D
@InfiniteHappiness you didn't correct "If three community members with 15 reputation or higher, flag a comment as offensive, it gets deleted." :(, is any combination
> If three community members with 15 reputation or higher, flag a comment for any reason, it gets deleted.
Any non-other comment flag, basically..
apparently other counts too
13:30
Thanks, @Braiam and @Vogel612'sShadow. Now I fixed it :)
I used to think only offensive flags nuke a comment, TIL
Nov 10 at 9:13, by Bart
@InfiniteRecursion you miss me, don't you?
:D
Hmm, I helped 9k people with 16 posts...
question: is it OK to provide the same answer on the same question but on 2 different sites SO and CR ? example

SO - http://stackoverflow.com/q/27379546/2140173

CR - http://codereview.stackexchange.com/q/72141/28366
it should I vote to close the question on SO?
13:47
@vba4all Update the link in your nameplate in your website!
http://stackoverflow.com/users/2140173/me-how should be http://stackoverflow.com/users/2140173/vba4all
@vba4all the ability to mark cross site duplicates would be nice here :/
@Unihedro in my nameplate? where
@Unihedro hm that's interesting O_o
can't find this nowhere in the interface
wow! that spam account is saying 5 people helped
13:56
pwnt
@DroidDev Yes, I hope those five people bought something they liked, otherwise the spammer is wasting their time
oh SE is offline
@Unihedro lol, given the avatar, that number is very small, pff
Morning!

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