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Jan Dvorak

10:00

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/133414/…

Unihedron

need one more cv stackoverflow.com/q/24256450/3622940

Infinite Recursion

@Uni: Why didn't you remove this? stackoverflow.com/posts/26320246/revisions

> Some background: Programming isn't my main job, but I do it A LOT at work. I work with Python and Java a lot, my first language was C, and I've done some web programming too. For my next project I'd like to use D, as it seems the learning curve is much lower than C++. Also I want a compiled language, and I've never mixed two languages before.

^isn't it noise?

Unihedron

It's information, albeit useless..

Infinite Recursion

ok

Unihedron

ymmv

Infinite Recursion

10:06

reject pls - stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5983682

Sam

status-rejected

Infinite Recursion

cv-pls recommendation stackoverflow.com/q/26322994/2982225

Unihedron

@InfiniteRecursion voted, auto-commented, defended our great tag

Sam

@Manishearth Great. I've called it ChatExchange.Net (of course, it's on GitHub).

Infinite Recursion

Thanks :)

Unihedron

10:11

wth?

WHERE'S THE LINK??

How is it upvote-worthy?.......

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/253753/3622940

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/133416/…

SPArchaeologist

^there, you have the Link now

Happy?

Pham

Low Quality A (26.5%): blz it come onnnnn just blzzzzzzzzzzz it, by blz it, on math.stackexchange.com.

Infinite Recursion

cv-pls rec stackoverflow.com/q/26159406/2982225

what is the correct close reason for this? stackoverflow.com/questions/26090163/…

Patrick Hofman

Any delete votes on this one? It's just a rant: stackoverflow.com/a/15394602/993547

Unihedron

10:20

@InfiniteRecursion unclear. no specific question asked

Infinite Recursion

ok, voted

Unihedron

random autocomment granted

Infinite Recursion

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/25149225/…

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/26323089/2982225

Unihedron

10:36

@trejder -1 for encouraging answering homework / do it for me questions. — Unihedron 6 secs ago

closeworthy? stackoverflow.com/q/26338018/3622940

Shadow Wizard

@Unihedron no "Too Trivial" close reason ;(

Unihedron

Fine, answered it then :P

Wow, so much for no moderation. OK. Be right back

Infinite Recursion

10:55

@Unihedron you missed varargs in your answer, because casting null to arrays in reflection is a strong indicator of varargs

Vogel612

oh god the downvotes and comments.... beginner java question of doom

Shadow Wizard

@Unihedron ants again?

Vogel612

It would be nice if this answer would make an effort to be more polite and not sarcastically insult OP. -1 — Vogel612 1 min ago

Unihedron

@InfiniteRecursion Oh yeah!

I didn't have a link to oracle docs about varargs handy, so I quoted a post by polygenelubricants instead. He writes good posts btw.

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/guide/language/varargs.html

Unihedron

11:11

spam? stackoverflow.com/a/26338303/3622940

@InfiniteRecursion Amazing! Thanks!

Shadow Wizard

11:31

@Unihedron nah, just crap

Vogel612

aaaaand it's gone

Unihedron

;)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected: Weight Loss Supplement on drupal.stackexchange.com

hichris123

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 89.0069: Weight Loss Supplement on drupal.stackexchange.com

Shadow Wizard

@Vogel612 nuked from within the low quality review queue

Jan Dvorak

11:34

back

Vogel612

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/q/133433/35954

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/133433/…

Vogel612

4 times the same question.....

Jan Dvorak

(I know it's been already reported thrice; posting just for completeness)

Vogel612

two smokeys, and 2 humans...

Unihedron

11:41

nooo I missed flags

Please make userscript that makes a loud explosion whenever the word "SPAM" in full caps appear in chat :P

Lightness Races in Orbit

@ShadowWizard You should be so lucky!

Unihedron

Welcome back @light!

This post needs CPR stackoverflow.com/q/26313125

Shadow Wizard

@LightnessRacesinOrbit ohhhhh! So, not yet :P

Lightness Races in Orbit

quite

Shadow Wizard

People here thought you to be a girl, ya know D:

Unihedron

11:51

rule 30 :P

Lightness Races in Orbit

4 hours ago, by Infinite Recursion

@ShadowWizard I hope she returns

Sexists

Shadow Wizard

yeah

Unihedron

Whoops, accidentally burned the catnip in a cold winter. gg all kittens died

ragequit..

hichris123

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 51.1402: An unexpected error has occurred i cant access my SharePoint site on stackoverflow.com

Unihedron

@hichris123 unclear or off topic or whatever just cv it

Lightness Races in Orbit

11:54

@ShadowWizard Y'know, it's a double bluff....

Unihedron

thanks @LightnessRacesinOrbit I'll fix the code snippets

Lightness Races in Orbit

ok thanks

I have no idea what you're talking about, but thanks

Shadow Wizard

@LightnessRacesinOrbit that's the spirit!

Unihedron

yes thank you too

Lightness Races in Orbit

ok cool

Unihedron

12:01

yay passed an audit

Infinite Recursion

4 hours ago, by Infinite Recursion

> Just an XML girl in a JSON world

not sexist, I really thought you are one of us ;)

Vogel612

don't discriminate against men please (only half jesting)

Unihedron

All in all, if they're not @Inf's sock, they're not a girl. ^_^

Vogel612

*cough* Anna *cough*

Shadow Wizard

@Unihedron so you think she got a moderator sock under the nick blue feet? :D

and not to forget the troll queen telkitty!

Vogel612

12:08

and (at least) 2 SE employees??

Unihedron

Potential for anything; Everything can happen.

7 hours ago, by Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron Pro thinks every female user is Inf's sock :P

Infinite Recursion

18 hours ago, by ProgramFOX

I think AngieTheCat is @InfiniteRecursion, but I'm not sure.

Shadow Wizard

@InfiniteRecursion teaser! :D

please-reject meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/31805

must not let the inline code virus penetrate MSE

Unihedron

@ShadowWizard review reason abuse?

Shadow Wizard

12:23

@Unihedron "deliberately destructive" sounds fitting.

Bart

Pff, those new review reasons are .... well, perhaps they require some getting used to.

hichris123

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 61.3179: Why muscles building products popular? on drupal.stackexchange.com

Pham

Spam Q (100%): Why muscles building products popular?, by mariiagordon, on drupal.stackexchange.com.

Bart

So to address spam, we're now spammed with spam?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: IS TAX PAYABLE ON HUGE AMOUNT TO BE TRANSFERED FROM UK TO INDIA on money.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO FIX FOLLOWING ERROR DURING UPDATE? on askubuntu.com

Shadow Wizard

12:32

@Bart yeah, bots took over the Tavern D-:

There is a Low Quality HQ room already so not sure why they're here as well

Bart

As long as they star anything I say, I'll allow it.

Sam

@Bart That was due to "human error". Pham only posts in here if someone tpa's a report in the LQP HQ, obviously the tpa'er didn't see Smokey's post in here.

Unihedron

~ Not everything is star-worthy...

status-its-my-fault

in Low Quality Posts HQ, 6 mins ago, by Unihedron

@Pham tpa

Shadow Wizard

@Unihedron hey this is @rene bot!!

Unihedron

~ WUT?

Shadow Wizard

12:34

@Unihedron @rene wrote a bot that auto post this when someone is starring something

Unihedron

this? github.com/Vincentyification/se-clientside-chatbot

Shadow Wizard

@Unihedron oh... so this is your bot? /me hides in shame

Unihedron

It's forked from rene's. :P

Ha!

Shadow Wizard

@Bart just a different wording, the core reasons are still the same.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW TO STORE SPANISH WORD INTO SQLITE DB? on stackoverflow.com

Bart

12:37

Don't like the wording yet though @ShadowWizard

Unihedron

@SmokeDetector cv-pls

SilentKiller

change is bad

Shadow Wizard

@Bart that's just you :D

Bart

@ShadowWizard I'll accept that immediately.

SilentKiller

status-closed

Unihedron

12:39

s/status/case/

SilentKiller

?

Sam

Gtg, see ya guys later.

Unihedron

Seeya @Sam @Pham @Gham!

SilentKiller

seeya S,PH,GH(am)

Pham

Byez

Shadow Wizard

12:46

@SilentKiller he meant case closed instead of status closed :)

SilentKiller

@ShadowWizard ohh ok ok. i understood now. :)

Jan Dvorak

App Engine is a tool used primarily for programming?? It's not a video game. — Carl Smith 7 mins ago

@InfiniteRecursion, @SilentKiller

found by this meta post: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/241967/…

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak yeah, just saw it now. Voted to delete.

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard but GAE is a tool primarily used by programmers, isn't it?

SilentKiller

@Jan his question is not related to programming or kinda of development. its about removing self from console page.

Shadow Wizard

12:55

@JanDvorak yes, I've voted to reopen that question, but it didn't justify what he did on MSE

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard it didn't

Shadow Wizard

@SilentKiller it's a tool used for programming, sounds fair enough for me

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard but so is Apache

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak right, and so is Visual Studio :)

SilentKiller

@ShadowWizard AppEngine is tool to create game while OP is asking how to remove himself from editor which can be done from console page.

Jan Dvorak

12:57

@SilentKiller sounds like an answer, not a close reason

rene

@ShadowWizard don't worry, the bill is on its way to @Unihedron

Shadow Wizard

@rene 1000000 unicoins?

SilentKiller

@JanDvorak as its not about programming.

Shadow Wizard

@SilentKiller when in doubt, I prefer to leave open.

SilentKiller

:/

Shadow Wizard

13:02

Maybe it will be reopened maybe not, I'll not fight it further, just doing what I personally think is right :)

Unihedron

Closing / reopening with votes is a democratic process anyway. :P

Shadow Wizard

And there's a cookie waiting for you in the Corner, @Sil! :D

SilentKiller

agreed with your opinion was thinking as it was about console so click closed

@ShadowWizard parcel for me. :P

Jan Dvorak

Given his rant, I'm not going to reopen that anytime soon.

Shadow Wizard

@SilentKiller hey, cross post!

SilentKiller

13:04

MSE question was strange... "closed by Nazis"

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak that's not related; if a question is fair it should be judged on its own, regardless of who asked it.

Jan Dvorak

still, GAE is primarily a hosting service, not an IDE

I'm torn on this closure.

Unihedron

So close to getting off the ground! If you like Life Hacks, check this out! :)

193

Lifehacks

Proposed Q&A site for everyone who wants to bypass life's everyday problems with some simple tricks.

Currently in definition.

Jan Dvorak

Where's the line between lifehacks and macgyverisms?

Unihedron

4

A: Possible Overlap with Life Hacks

There is some overlap, but then not completely. Life Hacks is often more day to day situations, this is a bit more about how to solve specific situations that aren't typically going to be encountered. Some of the questions I have seen asked would certainly be better in life hacks though. But o...

Shadow Wizard

13:09

@JanDvorak your call, but "when in doubt, there's no doubt" :)

DroidDev

@Unihedron isn't it too-broad. I mean who will be experts on that site :/

Unihedron

@DroidDev You! :D

SilentKiller

of course @uni. :D

DroidDev

goes to check more about LifeHacks proposal

@Unihedron well... I sense too many POBs and too-broad flags when it airs. Not that I am not interested in site. I will love to read posts on that site, but still...

SilentKiller

Bye!

Unihedron

13:14

Bye!

DroidDev

Bye!

Jan Dvorak

Bye!

Unihedron

@DroidDev That's why per-site metas and private betas exist, to define which questions are good fit by then. :P

DroidDev

@Unihedron ya and I am eager to see how this thing goes. There was a proposal about India and one about NY, both were closed as too-broad while in commitment or just before entering beta phase. I hope that doesn't happen to Lifehacks, but I think there are chances.

I think NY was closed thrice or so :/

Unihedron

Personal Productivity exists though. :P

DroidDev

13:21

It also has good reads

Unihedron

13:35

Horror is when you find an old, unanswered question and want to write a decent post, so you do, but halfway the "1 new answer" banner appears. o_O

16

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron or, better yet, "this question has been closed. Please reload the page to see why and by whom.

DroidDev

^

Unihedron

@JanDvorak There's a 5 minute grace period for new answers though, you just gotta dig behind the hood. But I just had the new answer scenario happened last week, and I actually gasped and fell off my chair.

DroidDev

@Unihedron try seat belts from now on :P

lostsock

@InfiniteRecursion doesn't seem to be working to well, it's still active. I think they are probably making fun of me for somehow finding that spam user who's only spammed his about me and display name with no other activity

Shadow Wizard

13:41

@Unihedron make it 5 hours, if not more. You just have to re-enable the submit button using the console.

@lostsock the team takes 1-3 days to respond to emails, give them some time. If urgent, ask @TimPost or other CM to take a look. :)

lostsock

@InfiniteRecursion and @SilentKiller are nazis ??

Shadow Wizard

@lostsock eh, you're late!

Unihedron

@lostsock Thank god I was late to click that close button 7 hours ago

/me be not mazi

lostsock

lol

Tim Post

WHO HATH SUMMONED ME?

lostsock

13:46

@TimPost he went that way ->>

or was it that way <<- , I fogret

Shadow Wizard

whooops

DroidDev

                                    ^
                                    |
that way                            |

Tim Post

Oh, Okay. Because I wasn't totally just dancing to the beegees on my desk in a ladybug costume.

Shadow Wizard

Undo Undo Undo!

@DroidDev your message is dancing around ;)

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard finally!

I think the message forgot the right way and was trying to figure it out ;)

Shadow Wizard

13:48

@DroidDev now it's pointing on "that" posted by @Unihedron

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard ok, you might have to take some turns to get on the right path, but I am not going to edit the message and make a map here :P

Undo

@ShadowWizard WHO HATH SUMMONED ME?

hichris123

[ SmokeDetector ] Score of 51.3821: Error Opening CrystalReport viewer on stackoverflow.com

Shadow Wizard

@Undo oh, didn't know I possess such a skill "Pingless Summon"! :D

SilentKiller

@lostsock lols we are not.. i am toooooo innocent..

DroidDev

13:56

disagree ^

SilentKiller

:P

DroidDev

-1

flag to close :P

SilentKiller

now don't ask dislike button in chat.. :D

Shadow Wizard

@SilentKiller I want "dark star" feature in chat, equivalent to downvote :D

SilentKiller

lols.. then i will be topper in dark star list.. :P

Infinite Recursion

13:58

Hmm nazi! inb4 we recieve revenge downvotes

SilentKiller

@inf downvotes ?

Infinite Recursion

yes, generally I receive serial downvotes after such rants, and then they get reversed

17 mins ago, by lostsock

@InfiniteRecursion and @SilentKiller are nazis ??

Janitor work is hard

Unihedron

:(

DroidDev

):

Infinite Recursion

:(

Shadow Wizard

14:03

):

Infinite Recursion

Tavern should be renamed to Janitor's hangout :P

Shadow Wizard

@lostsock I saw that!

Infinite Recursion

Me too

lostsock

@PatrickHofman ? your own answer? why is that naa?

Vogel612

ermagherd help vampire OP.

Shadow Wizard

14:06

@lostsock think he meant the downvoted answer in there

Patrick Hofman

@lostsock: That isn't very smart....

@lostsock: What about this one: stackoverflow.com/a/26341612/993547

@ShadowWizard: Thanks. Indeed.

I know it sounds biased, but that clearly isn't helpful in any way.

Shadow Wizard

@PatrickHofman well, it does try to answer so not NAA. If you think it's bad or incorrect, downvote.

NAA is "thanks, working for me too" or something really off topic.

Undo

^

Lightness Races in Orbit

^

Patrick Hofman

@ShadowWizard You are right.

Vogel612

14:09

vlq??

Infinite Recursion

Vlq is for gibberish

Shadow Wizard

@Vogel612 LQ, not VLQ, so still don't think it should be deleted. OP will probably delete it himself if getting enough downvotes.

Undo

Answer incorrectness is for votes to handle, not for mods to handle.

Braiam

> I don’t really like hiring people to work for me. I prefer making friends, and trading favors with my friends.

okey...

Stijn

Spent Friday researching a problem and possible solutions, spent today implementing one of the solutions with lots of trying, saw it doesn't work. Posted on SO and learnt that I had a fundamental misunderstanding of the things I read. Dear diary, today sucks...

3

Shadow Wizard

14:10

@Undo well, VLQ flag send to review so no mods would be bothered, but still

Andy

@Stijn We've all be there

SilentKiller

question deleted. i am no more nazi now. :P

Undo

@ShadowWizard well, it does go into the mod queue but usually it gets handled in review first on a site as big as SO

Patrick Hofman

I think answer that just takes a reference from the question is VLQ. It is commentary at most.

lostsock

@ShadowWizard mods ain't no boss of u, bother away

DroidDev

14:11

@SilentKiller don't try to hide your true identity :P

Vogel612

@Stijn let's reformulate that a bit: "spent friday researching a problem and possile solutions, spent today trying to implement one of the solutions with lots of trying and learnin from it. Posted on SO and learnt that I had a fundamental misunderstanding of the things I read. Dear Diary, today was a good day."

SilentKiller

@DroidDev i am not. :P

Infinite Recursion

prepares herself for revenge downvotes after nazi question gets deleted

Stijn

@Vogel612 that's another way to look at it :)

Vogel612

@Stijn if you do it that way, life suddenly gets easier..

SilentKiller

14:13

i didn't noticed any downvotes.. or may be i am not getting notifications

Vogel612

though these days still suck when you're in the middle...

@SilentKiller you don't get notifications for downvotes...

I only realize I got dv'd when there's something like: "+8" of "+3" in my SuperCollider

SilentKiller

@Vogel612 but it will reduce my repo.

Shadow Wizard

@InfiniteRecursion nah, he's not the type for those things. Looks like he honestly thought "Nazi" is not offensive.

Vogel612

yea sure.. still no notifications, though...

DroidDev

I get notifications, but no downvotes :P

Shadow Wizard

14:15

@Vogel612 I once saw +2 and turned out it was +102 after I set a bounty...

Vogel612

hmm 100 rep bounty....

lostsock

"Too many moderators, for too few questions." WHAT?!?

Infinite Recursion

@ShadowWizard Glad to hear that, no downvotes then

Vogel612

@JanDvorak don't be so hard on the poor guy...

Jan Dvorak

@Vogel612 Why? :-)

Vogel612

14:20

The generic yahoo answers forum out there has Hi, Thanks in advance and please help in their standards...

Shadow Wizard

> 137 Offered bounties for 14,850 reputation

Infinite Recursion

meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/274366/revisions

rene

@InfiniteRecursion You are editing that meta post to prove the point of pointless edits?

Vogel612

it's possibly unintuitive to new users coming from such fluffy backgrounds.

also.. the "users are moderators" thingy seems to be difficult to understand for newbies..

Infinite Recursion

yes @rene, I am bored and am fixing posts

> People who want to moderate get bored, and start fixing where no fixing is required.

DroidDev

14:22

hopes to get bored and start coding somehow

SilentKiller

coding when you are bored.. :O

Vogel612

well... some people can do that...

I am not one of them :(

SilentKiller

me too

Infinite Recursion

Looks like @Bart got bored too :)

meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/274366/revisions

Bart

Not at all. I am creating scarves for bunnies.

lostsock

14:24

@DroidDev function beBored() { return false; } beBored();

Stijn

@ShadowWizard peer pressure badge incoming? :)

DroidDev

@lostsock METHOD!! :P

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn hmm... now that is tempting!

DroidDev

message to client-> "Latest build is up in dropbox folder blahblahblah". Now waiting to be bombarded with silly non-implementable issues and suggestions having tendency to change the whole flow of app.

2

Infinite Recursion

@ShadowWizard I upvoted, so -4 now. Hurry if you want the badge !!

Bart

14:33

@DroidDev the most dreaded comment for me is "yes, about that spec, could we..."

3

DroidDev

@Bart indeed. For me, most of the times, it is "can we do it like iPhone?"

Bart

Haha. Another favourite is "Our designers made a mock-up for you. Took him 30 minutes..."

DroidDev

lol, yes

designer are always hard workers

Infinite Recursion

@lostsock your edit doesn't follow Shadow's style, please be style-concious in future!!

meta.stackoverflow.com/posts/274368/revisions

vba4all

has anyone been able to track the progress towards announcer badge, is that even possible?

Andy

14:38

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/26342577/twitter-download

lostsock

@InfiniteRecursion but i added pertinent info i thought , oh well

@vba4all definitely not possible in SEDE

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Why did Ubuntu turn into such a piece of shit ? on askubuntu.com

7

vba4all

lol at the above

Infinite Recursion

^ @Braiam

Vogel612

argh, can't even downvote this...

Braiam

14:41

@SmokeDetector I'm not sure if flag it as offensive or just close it as rant...

vba4all

fu** s & sh1t s on SO :P

Infinite Recursion

> Im seriously considering drooping Ubuntu

1. This is a wall of text. 2. The title is not proper. — MrHug 2 mins ago

Unihedron

aww, no <center> formatting for SE posts :/

SPArchaeologist

@Bart What spec? Here we are so "agile" that we follow the ancient art of the Italian theatral movement "Commedia dell’arte". We don't have spec, only a general desideranda...

Andy

@Braiam rant

Bart

14:44

@SPArchaeologist there is so much I want to say now ... but and NDA prevents me from doing just that.

Lightness Races in Orbit

@SmokeDetector looool

SPArchaeologist

@Bart We usually just deploy a release, then ask if the implemented page does what they are currently expecting, proceed to change useless details like fonts while the business logic stays wrong and so on in an endless carousel..

Bart

@SPArchaeologist .... disturbingly familiar

SPArchaeologist

@Bart Sometimes, when developing in the evening, I could swear I hear a distant orchestra playing the "Benny Hill Show" theme....

Vogel612

I think I am slowly getting the hang of MSO...

lostsock

14:48

@Vogel612 that's how I always feel before I post a great question that gets -15

5

Patrick Hofman

@Vogel612: That is a nice answer.

Vogel612

this smells of a second nice answer badge today...

Infinite Recursion

@Vogel612 me too :P

Vogel612

@lostsock I'll be careful to stay with answers for now, then...

Unihedron

What's MSO?

Infinite Recursion

14:56

@DroidDev thinks @SilentKiller hired a designer to design his profile picture and designer is working hard since so many days

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron meta.so

Shadow Wizard

@Unihedron Meta Stack Overflow

Bart

Multiple-system operator

A multiple-system operator or multi-system operator (MSO) is an operator of multiple cable or direct-broadcast satellite television systems. A cable system in the United States, by Federal Communications Commission (FCC) definition, is a facility serving a single community or a distinct governmental entity, each with its own franchise agreement with the cable company. Though in the strictest sense any cable company that serves multiple communities is an MSO. The term today is usually reserved for companies that own a large number of cable systems, such as Rogers Communications, Shaw Communications...

Infinite Recursion

thinks even Bart's socks won't star that^ boring onebox

2

SilentKiller

@InfiniteRecursion nopes not like that :P now days using from mobile only as much much work going on. even facing zooming bug while using chat full site in chrome

Shadow Wizard

14:58

hmm.... anyone knows what are those three horizontal lines? (between flag icon and RSS feed icon)

Bart

@ShadowWizard Those lines appear in the answer box. To drag it to a larger or smaller size

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