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Find (and fix / flag) link-only answers? data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/225176/…
the CV queue isn't too bad, actually
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PRINT THIS OR NOT on math.stackexchange.com
> You have no more close votes today; come back in 9 hours.
eugh... the message is ugly as a sin
... and Pham's doing nothing
I'm out of close votes after only 30 reviews in the CV queue?
I'm never doing CVQ again... it drains the closevotes I could've used for newer questions
14:14
Lol, and they have audits, they're horrible
@JanDvorak It's almost like CVQ activity shouldn't count towards your CV limit for the day, yet still have some limit of it's own...
at least, while the CVQ > some number (1k or 2k?)
@JanDvorak Quick! Run for mod! :)
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14:37
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SAS PROC REPORT on stackoverflow.com
14:52
Weezer released a new album this week. This makes me happy.
It's definitely much better than the last two albums.
@bjb568 Cool, thanks!
@Andy are you sure it's spam? Looks more like link-only?
@Andy It doesn't seem like spam.
o/
14:54
@LynnCrumbling Same link in his profile
@Andy Not sure if it's spam. It links to a SO answer that's not his own, so it's just link only.
@Unihedron \o
@Andy are we looking at the same thing?
crap...wrong link. just a second
hit your link
ah, ok
jeopardy music begins
The first one is just link only
14:55
flag'd.
@Andy Serious @Sam
@Andy Flagged.
@jadarnel27 Well, it is fall, and hence time for sweaters.
Sam
Sam
@Unihedron Noted, I'll think something up...
@Sam Maybe push score only if the username equals the whitelist, instead of includes?
My english is dying.
14:57
@Unihedron eh, it's fine. I've seen worse from native speakers :-/
Sam
Sam
@Unihedron Erm, what?
@Sam The spammer's name was "Serious Sam"
@LynnCrumbling Haha!
^(pro) I guessed that the answer didn't get picked up as LQ cuz of username.
@jadarnel27 Thank you... I'm here all week... tip your waitress!
Sam
Sam
14:59
Oh...
...snap?
Sam
Sam
@Unihedron Actually, we don't have any whitelisted usernames.
So that feature doesn't do anything?
@Unihedron Is school still on break for you, or are you back now? I haven't heard much about hksar lately other than public opinion of the protests now seems to be waning.
Sam
Sam
Well, if Pham finds a blacklisted username he'll report it since there aren't any whitelisted terms (yet) to balance out the scoring algo.
15:09
STAKEOVERFLOW ALERT! Beware of vampires!
@Andy Too bad it isn't SteakOverflow. Now THAT would be delicious.
15:33
Low Quality A (100%): Thanks a lot guys, really helpfull, by Sunny, on codereview.stackexchange.com.
Pham post A's here too?
@Braiam There's a special command which makes Pham repost a message here to be flagged.
@Braiam Only if marked as a true positive in the other room
cool
Sam
Sam
@Braiam It's not just As, it can post Qs, too.
15:53
@Sam I can post Qs too!
(this was lame....)
Hi quick question
how much is SE's enterprise edition
@euphoriaoverlord Here's your quick answer.
@euphoriaoverlord What?
Enterprise edition
is the price a static fee?
or is it dynamic based on the # of employees in a company
Does SE not stand for Stack Exchange?
... what?
15:55
> Stack Exchange no longer provides a subscription service nor can we license the software to create 3rd party sites. There is a Stack Exchange Enterprise version available for internal use only (i.e. not public internet), but it is very expensive and meant for very large enterprises only.
@ProgramFOX That didn't answer the question
How much, not what is it
@euphoriaoverlord how come?
@euphoriaoverlord The answer says: "it is very expensive"
There's a contact us button @euph.
"it has a price"
thanks guys, really helpful
15:56
if you have a very large enterprise, be sure to contact the dev team directly
And a small enterprise?
If you have to ask about the price, it's too expensive for you
@euphoriaoverlord That answer is the most detailed I can find, but as @Unihedron said, it's the best to contact the team.
@ProgramFOX Cool, alright.
Kinda hard to explain the situation I'm in
@euphoriaoverlord You're welcome!
15:57
@euphoriaoverlord you could suggest an SE site
@JanDvorak Kinda hard since everything would have to be done internally
@euph My $0.02: Do It Yourself
Also, what quantifies as "big"?
It mentions big companies
Have you considered Trac?
like 10k+?
20k+?
100k+?
15:59
How about 25mil+?
@euphoriaoverlord dollars? employees? Customers? Seconds since foundation?
@JanDvorak As in employees, sorry
do you count externists? Do you count janitors, or only coders? Do you count the monkey in the basement?
total employees
@euphoriaoverlord crosses fingers that you are from my company, because our internal tools are "not good"
16:00
Can't forget the typesetting hamsters...
What about the monkey?
@Andy same, our internal tools are not so good either
at least in my opinion
It's like if you go to StackOverflow.com and search up the keyword "java", and only get one result pertaining to jQuery
well, _Java_script
@euphoriaoverlord, if you haven't found it yet, you can utilize the contact us form to get in contact with the team
Today's Listening | funk / hop / dance
16:15
Low Quality A (100%): I dont no I want also to upgrade my sony x10..., by Wilhelm, on android.stackexchange.com.
16:36
Is there suppose to be a team meeting here or something? So many diamonds.
be on your best behavior bar crawlers
voted
@Undo Are you voting on the old OffTopic/13 reason?
16:52
... I don't think so...
wait, maybe :P
@Unihedron ? tool/rec use to be 8 , then 14, and is now 16
Yeah, 13 is debugging, so I meant 14.
s/13/14/g
srsly?
@undo yea, update your script to 16 please!!
@lostsock done
16:55
@bjb568 summary?
@lostsock E-learning might be goohd.
They just barely figured that out?
@lostsock "low income students do worse when homework is only available online"
As do high-income students
@Undo Didn't get that from this article. This mentions improved scores
16:58
What the heck is with <putting.urls.in/these/things>?
Someone came up with another arbitrary thing to yell at kids for not doing?
@Undo Obviously a child of the the modern age. They were expecting you to be able to click on them
I think school from junior high up should be 85% or more online, with the rest outdoors. Save so much money on buildings that look like prisons, give students access to better teachers since can have way higher teacher/student ratio.
@Undo Darn kids not cutting my lawn!
People trying to be "geeky" I guess. Though everytime an author outside the tech industry tries to write a cool tech article, this happens. (Formatting misuse, backslashes instead of forward slashes, oh boy!)
@Andy in the US, kids under 18 (maybe 13) cutting other people's lawns is considered child labor and is illegal.
Of course, no one cares.
17:01
@Undo to say mowing lawns is child labor , while technically correct, is not child labor unless they are doing it like more than 20 hours a week
Right, but IIRC it's still illegal :P
Working around laws: It's not illegal yet
Of course, it's perfectly legal for me to work on consulting projects. But not cut people's lawns.
laws are for sheeple
It's legal for me to work on stuff with PII in it, but not fix someone's drain.
bizarre
17:03
Because logic. :D
@Undo it's all about taxes and control
Next thing they'll do is say that moderating is stressful and thus is bad for kids' minds and so either (a) kids can't be mods, or (b) people can't do anything bad around kid mods. I'd prefer (b)
@Undo Moderating is stressful? You're kidding. Flagging / closing / voting spree all day until you run out of flags / votes.
Yes, for @Uni it's stressful if he cannot moderate :D
@Unihedron It's more the handling of flags and of crazy people that's stressful :P
Really, people underestimate how much thought goes into handling a flag.
17:06
life is all about dealing with crazy people
@lostsock right.
On the other hand, watching TV all day isn't as interesting as being able to dig around information to resolve issues casted by your fellow community members that needs your help. Treasure the responsibility! :D
(It's 1 am now, I don't even know what I'm saying anymore.)
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17:16
\o/
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@Unihedron you can start review cv queue (c# questions) & I guess you may feel ok :)
17:20
@Andy There is an EXCELLENT Dennis Leary bit about this. NSFW, so turn down your speakers if you find it.
From 2014-03-05:
Unfortunately, I earned another bronze in another day or two and messed it up.
17:36
i can haz photozhop zkillz?
I found some history!
> Typical sizes for personal computer RAM (random access memory) are 4 to 16 megabytes, while hard disks now start around 150 megabytes.
Wow. I'm pretty sure mechanical pencils have more than 4-15 MBs of RAM these days.
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cv-pls not enough info to debug stackoverflow.com/q/26305004/3622940
DID YOU KNOW: Broken weed wackers are on-topic for
Motor Vehicle Maintenance & Repair... even ones where the motor is running fine.(http://mechanics.stackexchange.com/q/12376/1743)
17:48
^ yeah.. that.
i just copied pasted it from the post history.. hmm
<rant> Off-topic; not vehicle related. – Lynn Crumbling Sep 19 at 19:33 declined - a moderator reviewed your flag, but found no evidence to support it </rant>
methinks that they just need questions so badly that they don't want to throw ANY away.. even ot ones.
Quick, go post a Jon Skeet joke and see how they react!
HAHAHA. Who? :)
@lostsock this actually looks really fun for the baby! :D
17:55
Out of ammunition, night!
Night~
Night☺
@LynnCrumbling while that is true, it seems to be on topic as long as it has engine according to the mod and help center
@ShadowWizard I keep wondering; What's the unicode characters you use? I get a square most of the time.
@Unihedron weird, those are just the ASCII characters created by ALT+numpad ☺☻♥♣♠
17:59
Night☻
Automotive forums/Q&A is just a nightmarish hard in my opinion. There is just so many different parts/models/skill levels/etc/etc .. and mechanics are so busy all the time...
@lostsock I'd buy that, if the OP hadn't specifically said that engine isn't experiencing any issue. The way that I read the "What topics can I ask about here?" page is that it's on-topic if it isn't a vehicle, but still has a motor-related issue.
@lostsock If I had to guess, I'd venture to say that he broke a gear or a shaft. But the motor is getting spark, fuel, air, and runs fine, so... yeah. Anyway, I digress. Just annoyed at a declined flag. #firstworldproblems
@LynnCrumbling lol. Yea, the less traveled sites can make for some flag results that you wouldn't see on big city sites.
@lostsock I'd love to see MVM&R survive beta.
18:29
I personally plan to run this forever :P
@Undo so instead we look like hippies, I'm pretty sure that is more terrifying
Feels like a Thursday.
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Q: Why score:0 searches for posts with zero score?

nicaelIf you search for score:n where n!=0, it searches for posts with score>=n, bug if you enter score:0 it searches for posts with zero score (only score=0). Bug?

what do you think about it?
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected, Phone number detected: +91-9950211818 fast vashikaran on english.stackexchange.com
18:45
Caught it before it was deleted!
whoa
That's insane :P
how did you manage to...
Dunno...
Just hit reload.
btw last flag was mine :)
I'm waiting for them to find SR, then the fun really starts ;)
18:51
That site is still alive? I'm a little surprised.
@jadarnel27 we delete a little over 16% of answers, that helps a lot.
Heh, I bet.
19:18
I love it (wrongly?) when people get angry that I closed a question / rejected an edit of theirs. But I hate it when they downvote my two most recent answers because of it.
@SantaClaus Escalate the situation. Downvote all of their answers. Only valid solution to the problem.
@Andy Why would I do that? Drop down to their level?
he's a moderators mod, he has to know what he's talking about @SantaClaus
@Undo Oh, the moderator of all moderators, I see.
Any way for me to find out for sure who it was though?
@SantaClaus No
19:23
@Andy Didn't think so. So why did you think retaliating would be a good idea?
@SantaClaus cuz hez smert
@SantaClaus The sarcasm didn't come through chat. Let me try again: /sarcasm
There we go :)
I received the sarcasm. Maybe it's another sockets bug.
@Undo Speaking of...have you been around Moderators recently? We're looking for questions and opinions renaming
@Andy I honestly didn't catch that at all. I guess I'm used to people thinking thats a good idea. I guess it really was a sockets bug.
19:26
back early
Brown early.
And often.
@Andy not lately, no.
@Frank Shouldn't you be in tree hibernation by now?
"opinions renaming"? Whazzat?
Evening!
19:27
@Undo Check meta. There are two recent posts about it.
Did you mean "re: naming?"
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Q: Should we change our name [Redux]

AndyIn previous conversations, the community has mentioned that the scope of our site appears to be restricted because of our name. In these conversations there have been a few suggested alternative names: Communities Community Building Online Communities The moderation team has talked with a com...

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Q: Is our "apparent" scope too narrow? How do we grow this site?

Monica CellioBack in August our top user asked how do we step off this plateau? Now here we are, six weeks later: 68 days in beta 0.6 questions/day views/day hovering around 50 This is not good. They probably aren't going to shut us down just yet (c.f. Beer.SE, now at 8 months in beta and rather quiet),...

oooh
@SantaClaus Just got back from work - but you're right, I only got 2 1/2 hrs of sleep last night.
@Andy voted accordingly ;)
19:31
@Undo Thanks for the input.
I think the right decision is to change it, but I keep coming back to the "I'm a moderator, I have to think about it to realize that what I do is really "community [management]".
Whereas I don't have to think about it to realize that a [moderators] site is related to what I do.
I see that point. I think many of the SE Moderators are the same way. But, being SE specific doesn't seem to generate enough traffic and it's hard to go off the network to other communities and say that there is a Q&A site for communities and community building/management and it is called "Moderators".
yeah, that makes sense
my vote is to change the name, but it's a hard decision
It is. It also loses me the fun of saying "I'm a moderator of Moderators".
Alas, I'll take one for the team if it helps out the site :)
@rene Did you see @jfar's comment?
Holy cow. I can't believe I'm getting off topic based downvotes for a question asked almost 5 years ago. How are you guys even finding this question? — jfar 4 mins ago
19:45
checking...
@Undo and @hichris123 - take a look at that, too.
@rene I think I found it by searching for questions that contained ( interview && (requirements || questions || something along those lines)).
@jfar I'm one of the close voters but not a downvoter. Your question is clear and useful. It is off-topic by today standards. There are some queries that are run looking for specific words that might cause your post to pop-up. The closing is legimit IMHO, the downvotes are not needed. — rene 24 secs ago
fixed legimit to legit
@LynnCrumbling anything to add?
"If you want to make a marginal edit to your question, I imagine others may choose to back-out their downvotes."
:)
@rene FWIW, I didn't dv it either.
qwertyuiop
ZXCVBNM<>?
20:00
@rene Yup, I agree.
@Frank Phew, I wasn't sure if someone would be offended by a response like that.
@rene !@#$%^&*
huh wha.
@hichris123 hah whu.
@jfar I'm one of the close voters but not a downvoter. Your question is clear and useful. It is off-topic by today standards. There are some queries that are run looking for specific words that might cause your post to pop-up. The closing is legit IMHO, the downvotes are not needed. — rene 14 mins ago
@rene Don't you downvote an off-topic post?
20:03
@Frank Looks like you didn't complete your sentence
@LynnCrumbling There's no need to comment on old posts like that when voting to close. It just causes...problems like this.
@hichris123 Nope
Sorry, sleep deprivation.
@rene ()_+ there you go
Haha, at least they have a sense of humor.
@hichris123 The dv button says, unclear, not useful or not researched. None of those are true for that question
20:06
@jadarnel27 who?
@rene Well, in 5 years, it's gotten 624 years. Doesn't that say not useful to you?
And besides, voting is to show quality.
Back in my day... grumble grumblejfar 1 min ago
@rene Also, it's not 'off-topic' as in "go ask on SU", it's off-topic as in "don't ask this except for on Quora or Yahoo Answers".
@hichris123 Indeed, and it has quality
@hichris123 and so it gets closed which is fair
@rene I'm... going to disagree with you on that.
20:09
I rather spend dv on utter crap
@hichris123 How dare you
@rene Sure, and downvoting makes it able to be deleted.
@hichris123 I'll use my protect priv to prevent that
@rene Depends what utter crap is. For instance, would you downvote that question if it was asked right now?
@rene ... what?
Nope
@rene Then what do you downvote?
20:13
3 mins ago, by rene
I rather spend dv on utter crap
@hichris123 vague, incoherent, unsalvagable posts where an OP shows to be incompetent at it forever
Like that ^? :P
sure
Only +4 today on GL, recovering from upvote reversal.
20:20
@jadarnel27 Ok.. I'll refrain from doing it in the future...
@jadarnel27 Come to think of it, I'm not sure if I did comment. I think that comment was autogenerated when I picked "other" as the close reason.
@LynnCrumbling then don't do that ;)
thoughts on this?
Let me be clear: using the results of an SEDE query to flag posts is frowned upon. — George Stocker ♦ 10 mins ago
@rene Doctor: "What's the problem?" Patient: "It hurts when I do this." Doctor: "Then don't do that."
@LynnCrumbling Doctor: "That'll be 7000 dollars"
20:25
@lostsock Yeah, don't mass-flag things unless they're stinking up the place.
@LynnCrumbling Right, it always does that. So in these cases you may want to a. not use "other," b. delete the autogenerated comment after you've voted, or c. ignore me completely, because this is just my opinion.
20:51
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: ¿Cómo se dice “Shit happens” en castellano? on spanish.stackexchange.com
@hichris123 false positive ^, well not really I guess. But no changes need to be made.
@jadarnel27 Haha
'night all.. headed out.
night`
21:12
'Night
21:45
Should I screw over users who don't have proper unicode support and redirect them to unicode.org/help/display_problems.html ?
(on DevDoodle)
21:57
@bjb568 not if that is true for 99% of your target group...
@rene It isn't.
Which platforms don't have proper unicode support?
Don't say Windows... or IE11...
@rene Chrome?
@Braiam Oh, what did they screw up?
Testing on browserstack… browserstack.com/screenshots/…
22:01
@rene don't fallback properly when a certain font doesn't have the unicode character
Oh yeah, why did I choose IE? :P
@Braiam Is that because they leave that to the OS?
@bjb568 IE is great. I'm always thrilled when I bootup a vpc to hunt for IE8 incompatibilities...
@rene perhaps that improved recently omgchrome.com/…
@bjb568 Ship It ...
22:09
@bjb568 btw, why php?
@rene Well, that's without the fancy stuff like XHTML…
@Braiam I just grabbed the nearest thing.
Here's a better version bjb-beta.com/test2.php
Wha? Why does chrome fail on the flag?
@bjb568 because chrome
Is FF a better browser on windows?
and in Linux
Huh.
K. So it's just the OSX version that sucks.
22:14
probably
The first thing you might notice is the atrocious highlight color.
(no, that's not just the website doing that)
22:57
Is my first math answer crap?
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A: Find the limit as x approaches 5

bjb568$\sin(x−5)$: Hm… $x$ is going to 5? How does sin(x) behave as ${x\to 0}$? As if it sin(x) was x (because sin(x) is x at 0 and the derivative of sin(x) (cos(0)) is the derivative of x (1) at 0). So since the sine is basically an identity function in this limit, you have (after unfailing the denom...

23:46
Ooh, I got an upvooooote!
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: ¿Cómo se dice “Shit happens” en castellano? on spanish.stackexchange.com
user259867
@bjb568 Not bad. Don't forget to put backslashes before function names (sin, cos), etc. (Fixed now).
user259867
The answer is a bit on the conversational side as far as transition from sin(x-5) to x-5 is concerned; this is perfectly fine for intuitive explanation. In polished product (i.e., for submission) I would put what mathlove wrote.
user259867
(For questions like this one an explanation is preferable to complete solution, of course.)
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