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3ventic

14:00

But it's only unclear if the external resource changes. It's not unclear while it stands

Jan Dvorak

I'd keep this question alive. It's, ultimately, a nice thing to be able to do. And reverse-engineering the existing implementations really helps tweak the parameters.

@3ventic ... which is bound to happen in case of "my paeg duzznt wrk"

3ventic

True, but that doesn't invalidate the point

OGHaza

still, hard to tell if OP even knows how to use javascript. I think a few of the close reasons would be valid but I'm all out of votes

Jan Dvorak

I wish we could CV as duplicate without having to specify the duplicate it is of.

Shadow Wizard

It's just plain custom JS, written by Google employee - nothing too fancy in there

Jan Dvorak

14:06

nike spam is back (@Manishearth)

Shadow Wizard

Why is this spam?

Jan Dvorak

sorry, wrong link

this one is spam

rene

14:24

@ShadowWizard for close votes there is evidence to support your claim, for delete votes there seems not to be enough data in SEDE

Shadow Wizard

14:38

@rene oh, guess it's better than nothing... maybe I got confused between close votes and delete votes.

14 edits in one hour by same user:

61

A: Academic papers using Stack Exchange data

2014 Bogdan Vasilescu, Alexander Serebrenik, Prem Devanbu and Vladimir Filkov. 2014. How social Q&A sites are changing knowledge sharing in open source software communities In 17th ACM Conference on Computer Supported Cooperative Work and Social Computing (CSCW 2014) ACM [DOI] [BibTeX] [PDF] Al...

Should we tell him something in a comment?

rene

@AlexanderSerebrenik Is there a reason you edit in one publication at the time? Can't you make one edit adding everything that needs to get updated? — rene 16 secs ago

joeytje50

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4014501 reject please, this is clearly an invalid edit

and I can see it happening this is going to get approved, going by the 2 existing approves on it

TCPMAN.EXE

It did

I was too late

joeytje50

this guy just formatted every technical term he found

rene

me too

joeytje50

14:50

some reviewers

tss tss

not talking about you btw, talking about the approvers

TCPMAN.EXE

Daniel Bünzli has approved 31 edit suggestions and rejected 0 edit suggestions

Why does that not surprise me

joeytje50

is there anywhere I can flag an edit review for mod attention?

or should I just leave this be

Jan Dvorak

@joeytje50 flag the post that has been edited.

rene

Mat left a comment as well

TCPMAN.EXE

I have a computer, on which I access Stack Overflow.

4

joeytje50

14:54

flagged the post for mod attention

ThiefMaster

Because the reviewers are clearly failing at their job

joeytje50

for them to look at the edits, per what :1811766 said

oh that doesn't work...

@JanDvorak that comment

rene

Yeah, sorry

I was not fully aligned properly with all posts

Shadow Wizard

I fear many people treat backticks as yet another way to highlight text, in addition to italics and bold and there's nothing we can do about it.

rene

really need <blink></blink> instead

joeytje50

14:59

rofl

<marquee> pls

ChrisForrence

Blink tags make everything awesome

joeytje50

rene

Yeah, that one is next, so 6-8 weeks for adding blink support and in the next 6-8 weeks marquee support

joeytje50

body {text-decoration:blink;}

Pëkka

Any mods around for an airstrike on this?

3

Q: This user is edit-spamming dozens of answers with their affiliate code. Can they be removed?

See the activity here: http://stackoverflow.com/users/1071887/idan?tab=activity Notice that most of the edits are simply adding that user's affiliate code to iTunes links. It's a clever trick to try and get their code embedded into other people's apps. I have reverted a few but there are so ma...

support

Undo

15:01

@TimPost aargh, that little blue thing is just the right size and in just the right shape to look like the 10k chat flag indicator in my peripheral vision -_-

Pëkka

@ThiefMaster maybe?

ThiefMaster

wtf, how does this guy believe that won't get him suspended?

anyone feels like rolling back his crap? mods don't have a nice way to do this faster..

ChrisForrence

gimme a minute to get to a computer, and I'll help

Undo

1

Q: What is this "time this post deletion" thingy?

I came across a newly-asked question today. Someone had flagged the post as a possible duplicate, and I agreed with them. After I was done flagging, this happened: What is it? Why is it there? Should it be there?

support

ooooh looks like a Dev feature :D

rene

I'm on it

joeytje50

15:05

@Undo what's "10k queue", like Undo mentioned on there?

Undo

@joeytje50 the place 10kers go to handle flags and stuff.

joeytje50

"10kers"?

Shadow Wizard

@joeytje50 not 10k queue, he meant chat indicator when there is a flagged message

Right, @Undo?

ProgramFOX

@joeytje50 Members with 10k+ rep points.

joeytje50

ah mk

Shadow Wizard

15:07

@ThiefMaster 7 days is not much but guess it will do for now... thanks!

rene

I'm at the top of page 2 stackoverflow.com/users/1071887/…

page 1 needs action

joeytje50

guys, this post made me think of something... how about a notice like the one that shows up when users try to post a JSFiddle link without pasting the code themselves... how about a similar thing, but for pastebin

and perhaps codepen.io and jsbin.com too

those seem to be the most commonly used IDEs and paste sites

ChrisForrence

Huh. The Idan thing was noticed a few hours ago

Pëkka

@ThiefMaster thanks!

ChrisForrence

stackoverflow.com/posts/18906304/revisions

rene

15:16

@ChrisForrence Yeah I saw that rollback, I think we have everything now?

ChrisForrence

It looks as such, yeah

ProgramFOX

Just wondering: why does an answer from 2012 show up in the Low Quality Posts queue? It was not an audit!

OGHaza

recently flagged

joeytje50

guys... is it bad if I accidentally derp miss-click?

Manishearth

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: KEYRING PASSWORDS

Shadow Wizard

15:28

@joeytje50 no harm done, it needs more than one Leave Open vote to remove it from queue

ChrisForrence

And considering it's already closed, you're alright. Might want to lay off the coffee for a bit though ;)

joeytje50

lol

or perhaps I should have one, actually

Undo

@ShadowWizard No, in Ryan's bug report.

ChrisForrence

15:41

So...I'm not sure what kind of user I'm working with here. stackoverflow.com/questions/21654343

hichris123

15:55

@rene Sure, I'll commit it and pull in a minute.

rene

Great

hichris123

@rene Okay, committed and pulled. Have fun!

Oh, @rene, I'll be joining you in the CV queue in a bit. :D

rene

Oh cool

You rep capped yesterday?

joeytje50

guys, am I wrong in saying stackoverflow.com/review/close/4014863 that was indeed a fairly opinion-based question?

hichris123

"rep capped" - not really. Bounty.

joeytje50

16:08

it was given as a close-vote reason, and I do indeed agree it is

explaining why "This is one of the reasons many coding conventions (including Google's) ban the use of non-trivial static and global objects." seems like almost purely opinion-based, doesn't it?

rene

@joeytje50 maybe but not entirely. If the answers take into account the (non-)determinstic way of calling destructors on a specific platform it is not an opinion but a fact that can be supported by documentation/specs from the maintainer of the platform.

Manishearth

16:29

@DoorknobofSnow No, I meant that I had two parallel instances running ... so the dupedetector filtered it out, but it posted twice.

I was feeding it websocket data to test it.

Doorknob of Snow

16:54

@Manishearth ah, ok

hichris123

17:48

your a genius @hichris123 — user3290020 29 mins ago

Well then... :P

Flyk

@hichris123 you're*

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris 70 rep left... :O

hichris123

@Flyk Yeah... wishes you could edit comments

@DoorknobofSnow But it's still 70 rep. :P

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/21662464/…

Doorknob of Snow

done

hichris123

How many CV's does it have @Doorknob?

Doorknob of Snow

17:59

@hichris123 I was the first; now there's another one

hichris123

Wow.

Flyk

hichris123

@Flyk I don't need a meme for everything. :D

Manishearth

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SCALING THE DIAGRAM

rene

@hichris123 it has now 3 cv

hichris123

18:07

Must. Get. Rep.

rene

You can get rid of the comments now

it is accepted

hichris123

You noticed that too?

rene

yep

hichris123

Heh, it was accepted around the time I posted that... :P

So anytime I want rep I should just post Must. Get. Rep.

rene

I watch everything

hichris123

18:08

@rene You're scarring me.

:D

Okay, 55 rep...

Doorknob of Snow

yay, moar color! :D keyboardfire.com

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow BOOTSTRAP!

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 you need to set up a bot that posts that whenever it detects my website URL in a chat message :D

rene

It is broken if you click on tags

Doorknob of Snow

@rene that's because I haven't made tags yet ;P

rene

18:15

And if you hit F5 often on the login page it takes a while to load

Doorknob of Snow

@rene ...then don't do that?

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow BAD UX!

rene

Ahh, that is good advice

Doorknob of Snow

:P ok, gtg to eat lunch and then viola stuffs

hichris123

Ug, gaining rep on SO is so hard because there's so many dupes. :P

hichris123

18:28

15 more rep... :D

Someone upvoted and unupvoted me.. :( 5 more rep.

ThiefMaster

0

Q: Make the notification LED color editable (and allow me to disable it)!

I really like notifications for new inbox items. But I'd highly prefer it to only vibrate and play a sound that only plays for notifications from the SE app. Right now the LED seems to turn white or green depending on the kind of notification whenever one arrives. However, a green LED is also us...

feature-request notifications android-app

hichris123

Yay! 3k repz! Party (cc @Undo, @rene, @Doorknob). :D

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 Hooray!!!!!! :D :D :D

confetti

more confetti

rene

Congrats

Doorknob of Snow

18:43

rene

Welcome to the Close Vote Queue

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Erm... I'm not a little girl. :P

@rene Welcome to the pain and suffering of the Close Vote queue in which you feel like you accomplish nothing! Enjoy your stay!

rene

Although I claimed previously

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, Jan 27 at 22:10, by rene

the queue is empty

I guess we have left some for you

ThiefMaster

btw, about the crappy backtick edit someone in here reported earlier: one of the reviewer was somewhat new (he indeed had <10 reviews) and the other two apparently didn't notice the backtick crap in the diff - it's indeed easy to miss with all the inline diff coloring

hichris123

@rene Apparently. ;)

Doorknob of Snow

18:47

my site now works on all ie versions from 7 and above, although the border-radius on the nav elements doesn't show.

cue BOOTSTRAP comment from @hichris

hichris123

@Doorknob BOOTSTRAP PLZ!

rene

@ThiefMaster it is never too early to start the education...I hope they don't run away but become better editors...and reviewers

Doorknob of Snow

y u so annoying IE?!

Mr. Abe

I am here, with my 65 rep...

WAY MORE THAN 15

rene

You are not using bootstrap? @DoorknobofSnow

Doorknob of Snow

18:50

@rene no

I've never used it at all actually :P

rene

Oh, but everybody uses that

without bootstrap you have no site

no reason to exist

Doorknob of Snow

:P maybe I should learn it...

hichris123

^ That.

rene

In my country sites without bootstrap will be banned shortly

Mr. Abe

I only have 2681 rep on SO :(

hichris123

18:53

@rene Reviewing close-votes is fun! When's the next meetup?

Doorknob of Snow

random change in topic I think it's time for me to change my name back to "Doorknob" :P I'm going to do that now

Mr. Abe

@rene Bootstrap is life

rene

Thursday

hichris123

Time?

rene

I have to create the event

21:00 UTC

Mr. Abe

18:53

random change it topic Does @DoorknobofSnow still have me blocked? Or did he now block this account?

hichris123

@rene 4 PM my time. Yay, I'll be home!

Doorknob of Snow

@Mr.Abe ???

Mr. Abe

random change in topic I'm going to make a userscript for this chat that lets me upload videos and embedded SWFs :)

Doorknob of Snow

my username, profile image, and website have officially been updated!

Mr. Abe

Ok must go

Jan Dvorak

19:00

OK go

animuson

Now I only have 53 reputation on SR. :P

Jan Dvorak

can you downvote at 1 rep?

hichris123

@animuson That's a lot of downvotes.

@JanDvorak In private beta, yes.

animuson

Ha, that's awesome. Free downvotes. :P

Jan Dvorak

will you get to the negatives? I smell a potential missed boundary check here.

Please try, @animuson :-)

animuson

19:07

I'm capped on votes for today. Gotta wait 5 hours to continue.

hichris123

@animuson You should still be able to vote on questions...

animuson

Nope. If you spend all 30 on answers first, you lose all your question votes.

hichris123

Really? Huh.

animuson

34

A: Please don't require answer votes to be cast before question votes

Completed New behavior: Everyone gets a total of 30 votes. You may get up to 10 extra question votes. Warnings remain simple... (5 votes remaining, 4 votes remaining...) Question votes may be cast at any time during the day. However, once you reach the N votes remaining warnings, stuff is s...

OGHaza

Isn't that title the opposite of the problem?

I thought we have to cast 10 of our question votes early on

animuson

19:13

I think the previous behavior was that once you cast a vote on an answer at all, you lost all your remaining question votes. The current behavior is that once you get the "N votes remaining warning" you lose all your remaining question votes.

OGHaza

ah right yea I just reread that question and I see what it means

hichris123

19:31

Closing questions is fun! :P

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 Indeed :D

animuson

Until people start pinging you with idiotic comments.

Kindly read the rules in the help center again. Thanks. — koles 14 hours ago

OGHaza

^haha

hichris123

@animuson Um... don't they know what a mod is?

Doorknob of Snow

lol

Michael Petrotta

19:34

At one point, a mod suggested that I immediately delete those custom "This question is off-topic because" comments. I have, and I've been much happier.

Idiotic comments, much less.

animuson

@MichaelPetrotta They can still ping you because you're in the revision history - your name just stops showing up in the auto-complete.

Michael Petrotta

I know, @animuson. The autocomments seem to trigger more ire, though.

Doorknob of Snow

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/21663889/1223693

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/21663910/1223693

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Done. :P

Um... double post @Doorknob.

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 no it's not; what are you talking about :P

hichris123

19:37

Heh. It doesn't count as a ninja edit!

Animuson beat me... ):

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 11 secs ago, by hichris123

> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 4 hours to continue reviewing.

animuson

Psh. Only 40?

hichris123

@animuson I can't help it I'm not a mod. ;)

Bill the Lizard♦ 50

^ @animuson The lizard's beating you...

animuson

I have him beat in flag stats. :P

hichris123

Maybe I should go flag some NAA's then...

animuson

Like there's not already 200 of them in the queue...

hichris123

19:48

Then go review them! Bad animuson.

Ain't no rest for the wicked (which includes mods).

hichris123

19:59

helpful flags	2626

Wow.

OGHaza

where on earth do you find so many posts to flag?!

Michael Petrotta

helpful flags 6149

OGHaza

:O

hichris123

@OGHaza Comments. :P Flags to close. NAA's.

OGHaza

ah flags to close must help

hichris123

20:02

Yeah... not anymore though. I can VTC! :P

OGHaza

on thursday we shall decimate the cv queue

animuson

Oooo I should add a donate button to my profile. :P

Doorknob of Snow

o noes, I'm falling farther and farther behind the 6th place user on codegolf.SE in rep :P

I'm officially over 1k behind!

answers codegolf questions

hichris123

Should I use my last close vote for the day? :P

Michael Petrotta

NOOOO! ALWAYS KEEP ONE IN RESERVE!

Jan Dvorak

20:06

prepares for a downvote spree on PCG

hichris123

@MichaelPetrotta But... but... it's a bad question!

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/7824800/…

ChrisForrence

@animuson - For what cause would the donation be for, on a scale of coffee to world peace?

hichris123

^^ (two up) And why would you post a RTFM answer?

animuson

For all the causes!

ChrisForrence

So...just 'cause?

Michael Petrotta

20:12

There, @hichris123. stackoverflow.com/questions/7824800/… Crisis averted.

Wait, no, you did vote. You fool.

hichris123

@MichaelPetrotta Wow, thanks. :D

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 55 secs ago, by hichris123

Yay! :P Now I can actually work, since I don't have any more CV's left...

Michael Petrotta

add / show 59 more comments

hichris123

@MichaelPetrotta I know... :(

Undo

grumble Today is the day of pings

@hichris123 What's up?

Doorknob

@Undo PING PING PING PING PING

Michael Petrotta

20:23

Hi, @Undo!

How's it going, @Undo?

hichris123

@Undo Close votes! :P

Undo

@MichaelPetrotta Quite well, @MichaelPetrotta!

@hichris123 Ooooh, 3k? Yay!

animuson

@Undo Pong

Undo

This is going to be a long day...

Doorknob

>:D

hichris123

20:24

@Undo @Undo @Undo Pingy pingy ping. @Undo ping. @Undo ping.

Undo

@animuson Ping

Aaaaaak!

hichris123

Better?

@Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo @Undo

Undo

You guys made me lose my spot in my quest to read all my unread notifications ;(

Doorknob

1 min ago, by Doorknob

>:D

Undo

D:<

3ventic

20:26

Did you know you were made room owner on SR @Undo?

Undo

@3ventic Yup

It's not like room owners do anything :P

hichris123

@Undo Ooh yay!

@Undo I see you haven't used all of your CV reviews for today... ;)

Undo

@hichris123 Uh... nope.

I probably should.

yawns

hichris123

@Undo hint review hint

rene

@Undo can you please use your votes

Doorknob

20:28

@Undo You should really use your votes.

rene

The queue needs to go down

hichris123

@Undo If you want, I can give you a list of plzrecommendmetehstuffz questions...

Undo

fine, I shall go do my infinitesimally small part in the lessening of a big number.

infinitesimally is my new favorite word.

hichris123

@Undo Oh, now my CV graph is scrollable/zoomable (thanks to @rene).

Undo

@hichris123 Oooh, neato!

fakedomain.com/aLe/graph.php

^ answer length on SR

Wait, that URL won't work for any of you.

hichris123

20:30

@Undo Yeah...

I already read the meta post, don't worry. ;)

rene

I don't want to visit fakedomain.com

Undo

Doorknob

@Undo lol, why does it go to -10?

Undo

@rene Heh, I put it into my hosts file pointing to 192.168.0.15 (my closet server)

@Doorknob Because me was too lazy to make it not.

rene

closet server?

Undo

20:31

Drat, I missed a bunch of m.SR stuff ;(

@rene A server in a closet.

An old repurposed laptop.

rene

I thought so

hichris123

I want a closet server. :(

Though EC2 is good enough...

Undo

Closet server is almost free, though.

Although I've never thought about power usage...

rene

What is that graph telling us?

hichris123

I have a '97 computer in a closet... does that count?

Undo

20:33

@hichris123 Only if it's always on :P

@rene How many answers there are in each length category.

hichris123

@Undo It can be.. but dial up internet. :D

@Undo WHY U NO REVIEWING?

Undo

@hichris123 You only need to use it on your local intranet.

Hence the 192.168.*.* address

@hichris123 grumbles because I just woke up from a nap and I don't trust myself yet </excuse>

hichris123

@Undo Mm... could somehow put in ethernet.... but doesn't work on Windows 95...

Undo

@hichris123 Does it have wireless?

hichris123

@Undo Nap != valid point

Undo

20:35

All you need to do is connect it to your main router somehow.

hichris123

@Undo Tried to add it. No. :P Unless I do some magic...

Undo

@hichris123 So it doesn't have any networking at all? ;(

hichris123

@Undo Nope. It's from 1997.

rene

Win95 came with msn not with internet

Undo

Ah. Then it a server is not.

reviews stuff

hichris123

20:37

has stackoverflow.com/users/1849664/undo?tab=activity up

4 so far...

rene

he is mellow, one leave open

Undo

I'm somehow more efficient reviewing on my iPad. Lemme go get it.

hichris123

@Undo Um, how?

Undo

@hichris123 I can jab the little buttons with my finger rather than trying to center a mouse over them

#firstworldproblem

Doorknob

lol, we have almost no programming stuff in common. @hichris is Java and Android and stuff, @Undo is iOS stuff, and I'm... well, a lot of stuff but I mainly like web development :P

hichris123

20:41

#firstworldproblem I'm out of close votes.

@Doorknob Java, Android, PHP, MySQL... Python.

Doorknob

@Undo maybe I should make a userscript for keyboard shortcuts in the CV queue :D

Undo

@Doorknob I would pay you in mSO rep to do that.

hichris123

@Undo It's your fault because you're using an Apple computer. ;)

Doorknob

@Undo or Stack Apps rep? :P if I make it I'll post it there, but right now I can't

I have to leave for a viola lesson; bye all

Undo

@Doorknob Oooh, viola lessons.

We the Tavern want a performance next week.

We should write a declaration of independence from SO when the mSE split happens :D

The Wobbuffet

20:45

I have 80 rep on the sock now :P

hichris123

@Undo I play the clarinet...

The Wobbuffet

I play the violin, but Doorknob's in a higher level

Undo

uses close vote reviews

The Wobbuffet

We both play the piano, but I stopped playing for about a year and now... I suck at playing

hichris123

I so want to be at 10k now so I can see most reopen and most close votes...

The Wobbuffet

20:49

Type something like

chat.sidebar.loadUser(209637, ("jmac"), 1391759263, '!i.sstatic.net/4ZOrW.jpg?s=128&g=1');
                              update_user({id: 136973, name: ("Ben Collins"), email_hash: "3fbc237a51acf024e65ae4da233f58e2", reputation: 3099, is_moderator: true, is_owner: true, last_post: 1390232587});

in the console

Undo

@hichris123 It's not glamorous.

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/21664810/html-table-code-in-php(or dupe)

Undo

Uhh... that's an answer :P

hichris123

Better @Undo?

Undo

That's better :P

Doorknob

20:52

apparently I got the viola lesson time wrong :P

working on script for @Undo (and which I will use too :P)

Undo

is excited for script

hichris123

@Doorknob I may use it too...

Doorknob

:D

so far there's key shortcuts for leave open, close, edit, and skip, but there's no shortcuts for the sub-dialogs

Undo

@Doorknob the Official Keyboard Shortcut Script has shortcuts for dialogs, there might be something in there to work off of.

Doorknob

@Undo nah, it's just $btn.click() :P

The Wobbuffet

20:55

1

A: <kbd> elements are way intrusive

I totally agreeI totally agreeI totally agreeI totally agreeI totally agree I totally agree You know, I totally agree. You see, on my posts I'm never intrusive, that's why I never use <kbd></kbd> Though I always wanted to make an unpressable button. And, ladies and gentlemen, the nothing-butt...

:) :P

hichris123

@Undo What do you filter on?

The Wobbuffet

Lol, the nothing-butt :P

hichris123

cv-plz (one needed) stackoverflow.com/questions/21664222/…

The Wobbuffet

Don't have enough rep to close

hichris123

> You have no more close votes today; come back in 3 hours.

:(

The Wobbuffet

20:59

There's getbootstrap.com and bootstrap.com, which is coming soon..?

Doorknob

"edit" is now implemented in script. will finish by implementing "close" later; I have to leave now bye all

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