This question was prompted by this answer by employee Mike Frank, from the SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) team.
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@forestdistrustsStackExchange Hey I don't think we're supposed to call users "idiot" here, even if they're unregistered users on a different site that can't see what we write here.
@bobble @forestdistrustsStackExchange thanks for reminding me that the answers are limited by answer length rather than length of code block. For some reason I thought there was a limit to the length of code blocks too.
That makes sense, I recall someone saying something like "if it's fewer than a few thousand lines, then feel free to insert the code here, otherwise you can post it on GitHub and a hyperlink to it" .. but I couldn't find that when I searched for it.
@KevinBThe My original question here was about posts in general (could be question or answer), and then people that replied talked about "answers", but originally I was asking about posts in general.
@KevinB You clearly have not frequented the Android tag, where any debugging question with less than a dozen lines of code almost certainly lacks a minimal reproducible example.
@KevinB True, but sometimes it's not about "parsing" the dataset, someone is trying to run a calculation on an input file, and getting an error in the output file.
@RyanM Perhaps, but generally if multiple CMs do it regularly enough, it means they don't really care and that it's not as awful a term as some people think.
I'm doing my calculations using G09W. My OS is Windows 7 (64-bit). This error occurs in the frequency calculation. What's even weirder is that it seems to happen right after everything is already calculated (all the energies and corrections). But the output file doesn't contain the fragment that ...
@forestdistrustsStackExchange I think Shog9 used some foul language from time to time, but wasn't he fired unceremoniously? I haven't seen Catija, or JNat, or Rosie, or Ayo using that type of language.
Also, the other people they're calling idiots (in the results I found in a quick search of this room) are people they're engaged in a friendly conversation with and know well enough that it's clearly in jest.
Okay I looked through the history in this room, and it does look like a lot of mods use the word, but when I searched "Catija" or "JNat" I found almost nothing, except for this.
@user1271772 They don't really hang out here often do they?
I see them occasionally but they don't talk much.
@user1271772 Ah, so it looks like CMs don't like it, but non-CM mods do it anyway.
Either way, I tend to think lowly of people who post spam on SE and I don't try to protect their feelings. lol (now, I do understand the issue with politically incorrect terms like "retard" which can be offensive to more than just the person it's directed at, since it is an insult to people with mental development issues)
I think there's a difference between accusations of spamming (focused on the content) and calling someone an idiot (focused on the person). Especially for a case where it's not clear spam.
I think that was pretty clear spam (well, R&A and VLQ, not advertisement spam)
Anyway I probably should have used "being an idiot" instead, which focuses on action rather than person. I can be an idiot from time to time, but I'm not (I hope) an idiot myself. :P
If someone has contributed only clear, obvious bad-faith content, then I don't really object to them being called names. But in a case where they may have thought it was a forum where calling something BS might be appropriate...well, hit them with the R/A flags, but hold the personal attacks.
@KevinB Of course they can. They can also be discussed in Latin. The goal isn't to use the optimal, most efficient method of communication devoid of any and all opinions.
@forestdistrustsStackExchange calling someone who is not acting in indisputably bad faith an idiot is wrong. Whether they are a potential contributor or not is irrelevant. For example, calling Beyoncé names is also not allowed.
I only star to virtue signal agreement or disagreement.
Anyway, y'all probably know my opinions on political correctness already. I think it's reta^Wstupi^Wsilly. Not like I'll convince anyone of anything. :P
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@forestdistrustsStackExchange A few years ago, a change to auto flagging caused a relatively high weight post to get 6 autoflags. Charcoal is currently authorized to normally cast 4 (as in, not when under a heavy spam wave in which SE has given authorization to use more). This command was used to shut down all autoflagging so the issue could be fixed.
Charcoal is the organization that runs SmokeDetector. The admins of Charcoal maintain the codebase for it and Metasmoke, the collection of all spam Smokey catches. SE employees have given the project the green light to let Smokey cast flags on the behalf of volunteers on posts the SmokeDetector reports with high confidence are spam. Users can sign up and grant that access to the SmokeDetector project, and set their own conditions under which they will allow Charcoal to cast flags on their behalf
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This question was prompted by this answer by employee Mike Frank, from the SRE (Site Reliability Engineering) team.
In his answer Mike states:
We're looking at how we can better plan and notify for these type of events, as well as ways to increase resilience so no interruption in the process is...
