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12:09 AM
@Rob ✓ You are a privileged user.
Like that!
1:02 AM
@SmokeDetector Can I call that guy an idiot? :P
1:24 AM
Nov 6 '20 at 21:43, by Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
@Ollie Please note that replies to its reports also get posted as comments on the report pages themselves, so it would be nice to reserve replies to report messages if you have something to say about the post.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog only applies to privileged users
Ah, I thought it applied to everyone with an MS account, and I didn't know whether or not they had one.
forest isn't privileged, so replying has no effect
Well, if I was privileged, then damn that would have made for some strange reports.
One of my considerations before asking for privileges in another channel was the impact on my ability to post tongue-in-cheek replies to SD reports.
(of course, you can always do that and then delete the comment from the MS interface if you have an MS account, a trick we often use in Charcoal HQ to point out posts that need more flags)
2:20 AM
Awwwwww @Zoethe1337 you were so close !!! Not bad for someone that had 7x less rep though!
2:42 AM
The pen is mightier than the pen
2 hours later…
@Feeds A deep dive into onebox and boxone
5:30 AM
@MetaAndrewT. We even had XBox vs Feeds oneboxing earlier, there was a clear winner.
5:43 AM
In a comment thread here, I asserted that "Bugs in a feature are not a duplicate of a different feature request in which someone requested the feature in an answer" and was told that "that's not how dupes on MSE are determined." Am I wrong, and if so, how are dupes on MSE determined?
6:25 AM
@RyanM In general I try to not dupe against something else: so if it is a bug, I'll find a previous bug report. Same for FRs. It gets as bit more complicated if the bug is for an FR that has as an answer the same bug report. I also note that some try to get a feature implemented by calling it a bug. It is a judgement game and both the judges and the game are still out.
Surely a different feature request where the feature that's malfunctioning was suggested as an additional thing that would be nice in answer is clearly not a dupe, though.
@MetaAndrewT. unbox
Cake time!
(oh, and coffee, but it's just an excuse for the cake ;))
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Nice...
Just need to survive this meeting then I can go get breakfast :D
@Tinkeringbell I always try to eat breakfast at home before leaving. ;)
6:46 AM
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I'm still at home :P
@Tinkeringbell ohh lol forgot about working from home. Survival skill: we forget bad things very fast....
But weren't you working from office recently? @Tink
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Yeah, that's why I don't remember what the office looks like ;)
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Nope, still at home and hoping to stay that way.
heh, I don't like working from home.
Even without kids, the amount of distractions is just too high.
There has been discussion about going back now that restrictions are mostly lifted... But I'm still not fond of the idea. Perhaps though we can have that next wave in autumn before ever having been back one day to the office!
When I'm at work I can chat without being distracted ...
6:57 AM
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard There's much less distraction at home than at the office for me, and it saves me so much time :)
@Tinkeringbell yeah most likely there'll be some new variant
@Tinkeringbell <envy>Good for you!</envy>
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard No need for envy :P Just means that my life is very, very boring ;)
Well, meeting sort-of survived, time to get breakfast.
@Tinkeringbell bon appetite!
That's your breakfast?
@Wolf you already had breakfast?
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Wow no... that's a dinner.
I had one of these:
haha beschuit met kaas
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Damn I miss breakfasts like those
Would love to be back in the USA to have some EyeHop
7:15 AM
@Tinkeringbell that will work too. Nice!
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard but vlq
@Luuklag maybe, but no such feedback option. I think?
There's "naa" though.
Only F, K and N
7:26 AM
The "N" put poop icon, right?
Yeah, N = naa
@Luuklag Nice and Dutch, like a breakfast should be :P
meh, I don't like beschuit
I guess there's no point flagging an unkind comment on a post that's self-deleted. chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8924536#8924536
I was mostly mysified, not actually offended. Still, I wasn't expecting that the OP would respond to my link to a related question by saying I should be executed...
7:45 AM
flag anyways
At least if you can see the comment
Ok. (I have full delete privs on Astronomy). The OP has 1 point accounts on 3 sites, and has been a member for 15 months. I suppose there's no point deleting their accounts since they can just create new ones
Let the mods's / CM's decide that ;)
Put a R/A flag on the comment, and hopefully mods will handle appropriately
If not, use the contact form
I put a R/A flag. I won't bother with the contact form. That OP's already wasted too much of my time. :)
8:00 AM
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
8:13 AM
@RyanM For me the user flairs load fine, are they back for you as well?
I think a nice feature request would be to provide an alt attribute to those images
@RyanM mostly arbitrarily 🤣
@PM2Ring executed?! Are you an application? ;)
Or stored procedure... ?
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard I'm a Python script, so I'm interpreted, not executed. ;)
@PM2Ring ohhh. So yeah, that's terrible offense. :P
But I guess I should clear my execute bit, just to be on the safe side.
8:28 AM
Just strip out the error handler ;)
I'd have to hack the interpreter to do that. And that sounds like too much work. ;)
Late last year I discovered sagecell.sagemath.org which lets you run Sage scripts from a browser on their server. Sage is built on top of Python, and plain Python code (mostly) runs ok on Sage. That server also lets you run Python, and a bunch of other languages, but it has a few annoying quirks.
@Luuklag Nope, still broken when I'm logged in, at least...
Works great in private mode
I wonder if this bug is back.
That would explain why I can see it, but no one else can.
But it's been fun because I can write & run Sage / Python on my phone. The server lets you save stuff by compressing & encoding it into a URL. So I can post small scripts in comments, and even chat messages, without having to post them to a site like pastebin or github.
@RyanM Would be my best bet right now as well
8:42 AM
ps. I wrote a FR for providing image alt text for those flairs
Already upvoted, +1 for accessibility.
Q: Provide image alt text for the flair images on the /election page

LuuklagInspired by this question. Currently the user flair on the /election [SO] page has no Alt-atribute. This makes it hard to see which users won an election when images can't be viewed for whatever reason, server outages or people that are visually impaired. Can we please provide an alt text to tho...

and we've got a second repro! It's not just me.
For me, the images are also broken. — Emil Jeřábek 23 secs ago
One in every 9 sounds about right then ;)
9:33 AM
@RyanM yeah there's some bad server somewhere...
oh hey, it's broken in my edit profile flair page, too...
@RyanM broken?
@SmokeDetector k
@Luuklag there should be more flairs, the one showing is the network flair.
The per-site flair is broken for some.
That's how it should look like ^
^ what Shadow said.
It's showing the alt text instead of the image for all but the network flair in mine.
9:56 AM
@JNat cross site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/21954000/eyeglasses-online?tab=accounts cc @JourneymanGeek 2/3 are yours ;)
@Luuklag 🎵I see cleaaaarllly noooow the spaaam iss goooneeee
Lee Towers!
whoa backlog is back.... :D
mspaint won't let me save to my PC....
haha poor mspaint
Hmmm I think I'll save my third post for tomorrow, as not to rep-cap too soon today :)
I think I switched to Paint.Net many moons ago and never looked back
10:07 AM
I don't think latest windows even have paint anymore
oh wait it does
what I find more worrying for those election pages is that they all had their content edited but didn't fix this glaring issue ... missed opportunity ....
@rene hmmm true. Have someone status-review tag it
Yes! Let me start with a rant on MSO first, to get everyone in the right mindset
Sounds like a plan!
10:16 AM
@rene well for me mspaint is like Notepad: using it for simple things, but when I need something more complex, will use paint.NET
It's just much slower, plus usually my Windows menu won't open so have to open it manually.
For mspaint just need to press WIN+R and type mspaint. ;)
@Luuklag they removed mine sweeper though :(
And the generic Image Viewer.
By default images will open in some crappy and super heavy program, never even bothered to see how it's called.
Closed it right away and Googled how to bring back the simple image viewer.
10:33 AM
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard yeah, an annoying UWP app. Super slow for some reason.
@rene slow because Windows...
Meh, something with UWP. Either side-by-side loading or click-once stuff.
11:00 AM
Forget about Windows.... I'm proud to take part in making a question with "bathroom" in its title a HNQ.
Not my question this time, but I did give answer.
11:19 AM
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard link?
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard you mean that spam post we just nuked from the MSE active tab?
Q: Changing pants in office bathroom

RobertI commute to my office in my bike and after cycling 40kms, my clothes will be soaked. I change vest and shirt but pants and underwear will be soaked which is uncomfortable. I would like to change by pants and underwear too. But the problem is the only place where I could change is in the office b...

@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard no a tremendous score but nice: lackadaisical-appeal.glitch.me/status
> But the problem is the only place where I could change is in the office bathroom which is wet and dirty.
.... EEEEWL.
11:35 AM
Wouldn't the proper solution be to hire a cleaner?
Or potty train the rest of the office workers, I guess.
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard you're also on the rather useless chart. I've used a red-circle: i.stack.imgur.com/pY2z5.png
40 km is quite a distance
@JourneymanGeek With a bit of a decent bike pretty doable
@Tinkeringbell the office manager in our office gives that training. It was needed :/
11:39 AM
@rene wait, what?
@rene o.O
In Uni they hung these signs:
Foreign students might sometimes do the squatting thing, I've heard.
Yeah, Uh... people from a certain country sterotypically do ...
Or folks used to squatties
11:42 AM
You can squat for 15 euro's per month. You'll be Basic Fit ...
To be fair, I think the university I went to had similar signs, and the toilets were still a mess.
@rene badum tsss
@Luuklag basically tell the people what the flush button is for. And if the waste bin is full that you don't continue throwing the used paper towels in the direction of the waste bin ...
@Luuklag what @Ryan said ;)
@Tinkeringbell true, but also squatting is better for the health so pretty sure people do it anyway.
Can be done nicely and without mess.
@ShadowTheVaccinatedWizard Is it? Then I wonder why it's not being government mandated yet XD
11:55 AM
@Tinkeringbell can't change decades old habits, but believe it will catch one day
@rene thanks? :D
@rene lol missed that one
12:32 PM
@Tinkeringbell Is there something more nefarious about that post than is immediately visible? They seemed to be asking about the default SE avatars (Identicons).
@Spevacus Put each sentence in the search bar, and find out yourself... it's plagiarised.
I think the 'thanks' was original? :P
Ew, lame. Sorry to call that into question, it just struck me as odd at first glance.
No worries! I don't mind explaining :)
I just noticed because I found the second question I just linked when I started searching... because I never can remember how those avatars are generated in the first place ;)
I was also searching about, but I guess I should've used their phrasing - Er, well, the original phrasing, as it happens. :D
Yeah... one of those cases where I'm happy with how the search bar works XD
12:47 PM
whoop whoop, repcapped for the day
good call saving my other post for another day ;)
1:00 PM
You're a really bad example to everyone that comes here complaining about reputation, by making it sound like it matters :P
I love to be a bad example
Should I start posting spam?
I wouldn't recommend it, for your sake :P
Spammers get their accounts destroyed ;)
Nukey, nukey.
@Tinkeringbell Can't destroy an account with more than 500 rep, though ;-)
Of course, that's likely a solvable problem if you can just red-flag-nuke every post on the account...
@RyanM ... But no one had to know that, untill you shared it :P
1:13 PM
I'm sure if you pressed the "Delete" button hard enough we'd not have to worry about Luuklag for a little while :D
in which I am responsible for a sudden wave of high-rep users posting spam and forced to retreat into hiding out of shame
Imagine the chaos though :P
1:24 PM
I hate clickbait
1:44 PM
Teresa Dietrich on June 23, 2021
We’re thrilled to be launching this new product with Google Cloud and Go.
Resistance is futile!
@rene Squatting is a long established practice in some places, people will go to great lengths:
2:22 PM
just looks like another form of advertisement that adblocks won't hit by default
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2:38 PM
@KevinB Huh, you mean the Collectives? To me it looks more like Teams, but more freely accessible?
@Tinkeringbell looking on all the privileges
Well, it does matter. ;)
@GWarner where you saw it on SE?
@Tinkeringbell different kind of Teams, yeah. Luckily SO got enough money now to experiment with high-risk projects...
Won't work? No worry, we'll shut it down and move on to the next experiment. One of them must catch.
it's just a sponsored tag with more features
Anyway, so many bugs...
Hahaha it seems so, yeah.
Lots of questions too
2:57 PM
Q: Member count is way off

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2Viewing Google Cloud Collective, it says "View all 96 Members": However, after clicking it, I see table with only 23 users: Can this please become consistent, either way?

First bug! :D
what's the appropriate way to deal with someone tag spamming?
I really don't want to get into a rollback war with them
@Mgetz flags
If they're really on a roll and cause damage, ping mod in chat
(who can suspend them for the time being until it's sorted out.)
If no mod is around (e.g. small site) ping a CM here.
Again, it's only for extreme cases, e.g. 50 tag edits in a row.
I think I finally got them to realize that AVX2 covers SSE
If it's 2-3 bad edits in a row then they take a break no need for what I said above, only flags.
and they don't need to spam both tags
3:01 PM
Anyway, I'm wearing mask again, wonder when it will show in chat... :D
even once I get vaccinated fully I'll be wearing a mask
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Next time you want a refresh, just ask :P
@Tinkeringbell lol, thanks!
Anyway second bug reported, I'm done for now. :D
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Have there been any improvements in your software since moving to the V2 version of Masked Shadow Software Solutions™?
@Mgetz yeah turns out vaccine isn't working against variants.
3:12 PM
well it is... just less effectively
oh no now people will get confused between Andrew and me.... :/
@Spevacus yup. Learned how to create less fog on my glasses, for one. ;)
(different breathing)
lol. I was procrastinating getting more contact lenses, so I was wearing glasses for awhile. I've found that if you pull the mask up a bit higher on your nose, up to about where the bridge is, and push your glasses down upon it, you can pinch the mask off and it should help prevent air from flowing upwards and fogging them up.
nah, didn't work for me. I do wear contact lenses, but taking one day off every week.
Anyway, it's final... the UX of the Collectives is terrible. As neutral observer, I'm totally confused, and it needs really lots of work to make it better.
(e.g. turns out the different members count is by design, something to do with the fact that the table updates only once a day and the number in the Collective page is live.)
The Borg are an alien group that appear as recurring antagonists in the Star Trek fictional universe. The Borg are cybernetic organisms linked in a hive mind called "the Collective". The Borg co-opt the technology and knowledge of other alien species to the Collective through the process of "assimilation": forcibly transforming individual beings into "drones" by injecting nanoprobes into their bodies and surgically augmenting them with cybernetic components. The Borg's ultimate goal is "achieving perfection".Aside from being recurring antagonists in the Next Generation television series, they are...
3:22 PM
@Wolf ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
sdc coffe shadow
@Wolf No such command 'coffe'.
3:34 PM
sdc coffee Shadow
@Ollie brews a cup of jQuery for @Shadow
I like the return to the "wearing mask" name, @ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2
sdc coffee Shadow
@Wolf brews a cup of Espresso for @Shadow
sdc privileged
3:36 PM
@Wolf No such command 'privileged'.
@Wolf ╳ You are not a privileged user. Please see the privileges wiki page for information on what privileges are and what is expected of privileged users.
sdc coffee me
@Wolf brews a cup of Mocha for @me
sdc alive
3:39 PM
@Wolf Of course
@Wolf Running since 12:45:58 UTC (2 hours, 53 minutes, 43 seconds)
@Wolf metasmoke is up. Current failure count: 0 (teward/Osiris)
3:40 PM
@Wolf Current ping failure counter value: -174
@Wolf Posts scanned: 424; Scan time: 409.3741183280945; Posts scanned per second: 1.0357274214882914
3:42 PM
@Wolf I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
@Wolf can you take your testing elsewhere, please?
4:00 PM
@Ollie He looks like Darth Vader now:
@Sha ha
@Rob He needs some rainbow colored Oakleys and a biker helmet still
Gascan, Fuel Cell, or Plazma Oakleys?
@Rob how come your privileged
sdc coffee Rob
4:15 PM
@Wolf brews a cup of Latte for @Rob
4 messages moved to Trashcan
Because I don't randomly spam Smokey or goof around with the Bot, and I've demonstrated trust with the Admins.
4:20 PM
@Wolf I asked you before to stop the experiments.
2 messages moved to Trashcan
I could do a quick photoshop and give him these..
not the okaleys. goggle shaped
this is the 4th time being kicked
then quit already.
The point of a kick is to give you an indication that your behavior needs to change. If you find yourself being repeatedly kicked, it means you haven't made those necessary behavior changes.
@Wolf well, with me it is very easy: If I ask you to stop doing something and you said "ok" then I don't expect that same action to popup within the hour. So going forward maybe make clear that you understood what we wanted to stop you doing.
4:27 PM
@Rob Anyone else thinks @Sha looks like an underage user in that picture? I find he looks much younger with a mask, and reminds me of a 12-year-old classmate XD
If things work out, I'll let you know tomorrow.
@Tinkeringbell is this your mask fashion advice channel?
4:43 PM
@Tinkeringbell He looks the same as his "too much coffee" picture; where I'd guess he's 32-36 (/2)
@Mithical Have fun, and tell him I said hi! :P
@rene I'm the last person you want fashion advice from. My advice is always: Wear whatever you find that you can fit in :P
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 fits in his mask so that is approved then
I guess so :P
@Tinkeringbell I'm sure he'll see it in here first ;)
@Mithical That's half the fun ;)
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