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12:23 AM
That's why I'm wondering if it might be possible to extract some data based on API requests from existing scripts, as that wouldn't require script updates
Though it would have the downside of only finding scripts that actually make API requests, which not all of them do.
12:59 AM
API usage is logged: api.stackexchange.com/docs/throttle - so that data is available. It's the hacks that use undocumented properties (meta.stackexchange.com/a/372592/282094) that can't be recorded, where the breakage will (and has in the past couple of months, and many times before) occur.
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2:53 AM
One great thing about the new UI is that I can easily see the status tags on my answers to feedbacks without having to click through to each one
3:06 AM
I'm personally okay with list view, but I guess the font size is a bit too big for the Summary page on desktop :S
As for the "recently deleted questions/answers" link... I think it's more prominent now (which hopefully helps those who get post ban), but for those who have many posts, it's almost unnoticeable...
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7:07 AM
... thanks (-:
I got it but the MetaSmoke page doesn't say it's deleted.
it can be slow, it stops checking at some point and only revisits like once per hour or so IIRC
7:42 AM
Frequently, when I use the "spam flag" link 6th, when the pages reloads it says that the post is deleted and the flagging option is removed. In this instance the page has not updated (1/2 hour later).
I believe it gets the updates via websocket, which can be unreliable (and, as tripleee correctly notes, it stops listening after a while).
8:19 AM
@rene Wine? No, I like wine. Why? ;)
@SPArcheon Scold Button you mean? :D :D :P (Sorry! Could... not... res... ist...) :D
It's just... there! So tempting!
@Tinkeringbell that's so silly.... poor kids. Born to wrong parents. :(
Well I fixed the new activity page for SE: meta.stackexchange.com/a/372689/361484
@Sonic, if you like explanations of reviews, perhaps you could explain this one: meta.stackexchange.com/review/close/80292
@Rob I tried to review as Close, but the question was closed before I could submit my review and the system would not allow me to submit a Close review. So the only option for the review to count toward my total was to cast some different review.
It seems @Glorfindel fell into the same thing. I wonder why you didn't also ask them, given that an Edit review counts as an implicit Leave Open.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so for the sake of earning a review you cast wrong review on purpose? Sorry but that's just bad.
Just don't review, the world won't fall apart.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 The question was already handled
8:28 AM
That's what the "Skip" option is for
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog so why cast false review??? Sorry, don't get it.
I was presented the review when there were only four close votes; it got the fifth before I could submit.
@cairdcoinheringaahing exactly!
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 So an action that's not within my control doesn't count negatively towards me
Given that a site mod did essentially the exact same thing after me, I'd say it's valid.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog casting a false review count much worse.
8:29 AM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Reviews that come in after review is completed don't count for anything
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog no.
Brining "but he did it too!11!!" as excuse isn't valid.
meh never mind.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Didn't Glorfindel Edit, not choose "Leave Open"?
@cairdcoinheringaahing Counts as an implicit Leave Open review.
@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, which is even more weird. @Glorfindel what did you edit there and why?
I mean... it's just one of many obvious off topic questions.... what's so special about it?
So you made an incorrect review on a closed question simply to obtain a reviewing credit; for an activity that you didn't do. Reloading the webpage is the correct action. --- As for @Glo he may have made a one character edit to indicate that he has seen the post, appearing as the last editor.
8:31 AM
I never close them through review, I don't care a bit about my review count.
Not choosing Skip seems like completing a review, just for the purposes of getting 0.1% closer to Steward
A: The Edit action should not kick a post out of the Close Votes queue

Sonic the Anonymous HedgehogThis has since changed to being status-completed as of yesterday: the action was changed to count Edit reviews the same as standard reviews to leave open, rather than dequeueing the question immediately. It seems the expected outcome Shog expected in their answer (that the edit would bump the que...

slip of the finger, sorry ...
@Rob agreed.
@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, which is just bad.
@Glorfindel hmm... as a punishment, cut that finger! :P
!!/cut finger
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 No such command 'cut'.
@Sonic, thanks for your answer.
well that new activity page introduced loads of whitespace
@Luuklag yeah 16px padding, it's quite insane.
It means 32 pixels of... nothing, between each two items.
(in .s-post-summary class)
Yeah I fixed that in my answer
A: New responsive Activity page

Luuklagfeature-request I suggest some tweaks to the CSS of the post summary class: On the left I changed the border from 16 to 10 px, and the font-size from 1.46...rem to 1.16....rem (only changed the 4 for a 1). This makes so much more room available on the page. Another great option would be to preve...

managed to half the size of the answer / question boxes there
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 It's a padded cell:
8:47 AM
yeah that's going to need a bit more padding @Rob
Even padded 12 feet in the air, in case you are a jumper.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Yeah, another point in favor of "There should be a license you'd have to get before you'll be allowed to parent"
Calvin and Hobbes said it right when Calvin was shocked that his dad didn't require any training or instruction before becoming a dad :P
9:09 AM
Well, if you see some parents/kids these days...
^^ both still up
Aaaand MSE rep cap hit for the day.
New personal record for time of day, I think...
Too bad for you, you can't earn more, you could report that the Graph Tab is broken:
What's broken about it?
9:24 AM
The list is long, and I'm in the middle of something for several hours.
@RyanM If you repcapped, the left-most line (looking at it) should be at the 200 line, but it's noticeably below it
@cairdcoinheringaahing It is for me, at least. Not sure why it's not in that screenshot, though a bit of playing with it suggests the selection feature is a tad finicky
9:51 AM
@Rob LOL :d
@Tinkeringbell yeah, that's true. :/
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 ;) It'll probably never work anyways. You fix one situation and test for it, and people come up with another. Just like all those requests each SO election to make the system stop people from doing stupid thing X during elections :P
Next election, the drama is about mistake Y instead XD
10:10 AM
@Tinkeringbell yeah and to be honest, there are just too many cases of awesome people born and raised to awful parents, we can't afford to "lose" them.
Just... this case really makes me sad inside.
Well, Hummus arrived, this will cheer me up a bit...
@RyanM Here are two examples of prior reputation graphs, one OK and another broken: meta.stackexchange.com/a/82872/282094 meta.stackexchange.com/q/304490/282094 - the width of the displayed and selectable area is a single example of a difference between those and the image above. You might notice that it appears as though you gained no reputation between 2012 and the first couple of months of 2020, that's not correct. Three years is selected but more than four is shown, mostly
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Yeah, it can go on the pile of all the other stuff humans do to make one lose faith in humanity.
@Rob But I did gain no reputation between 2012 and May 28, 2020.
10:34 AM
@Tinkeringbell People would ignore it, go overseas to have kids, MUH FREEDOM...
Of course they would.
10:50 AM
@Tinkeringbell not lose faith, just maybe be ashamed to know we share similar DNA...
XD isn't that sort-of the same? :P
Nah being ashamed and lose faith are quite different. ;)
I am proud of others, which balance it. :)
@JourneymanGeek or claim they made the kid while outside the country, now go prove them wrong....
@RyanM shame!! :P
8 years without rep?!
11:22 AM
@tripleee 🚩
11:49 AM
You changed the look of the user activity pages?
The questions and answers list are no longer tables with the answer count and votes and views in separate columns from the rest
@b_jonas me? Nope.
But yeah it was changed, you don't see it because it's heavily downvoted.
Q: New responsive Activity page

Dan CormierUpdate: This was rolled out on all network sites December 7, 2021. After receiving and incorporating feedback the community (thank you!) we’ve launched the responsive Activity page! The most common feedback we received was that we’re straying too far from a summary for the summary view. This feed...

We really need to make it so that questions will show even if below -8, it's silly people can't see it.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 On the other hand, it is in the sidebar
Q: Show MSE posts authored by staff members on the homepage regardless of the vote count

Anton MenshovI strongly suggest to always allow showing posts created by SO Staff members on the frontpage of Meta SE. Currently, if the post reaches "−8" vote count, it is hidden from the frontpage. While this might be (or might not be) the desired behaviour for certain posts, it is certainly a bad idea to h...

@Luuklag meh, only few look there. :/
Well the above request isn't exactly what I said but close enough, so it will suffice. :)
Everybody wave!
"Unlock this answer and browse ad‑free by joining Quora+"
umm what?
Welcome back @Mazura :)
12:02 PM
Also, YouTube sending me emails because I have Gmail... ffs
But anyway, context for what you said will be welcome.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 (waves ;)
Quora sucked in the first place, now it's like printerst; might as well be blocked
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Try reading something on Q
... w/o siging in or w/e
@RyanM Fair enough, the other bugs remain.
Nov 12 at 3:47, by Meta Andrew T.
I just realized there's now Quora+ and I have to subscribe to read some of the answers... Thanks Quora. Not.
I don't have to sign in to SE to read SE. I give it two years at most.
YouTube Preamuin + !!111 .... Freaking no
Hey, you wanna pay for some free stuff? eh?
12:12 PM
@Mazura Of course I do. Free stuff is great, but you sometimes have to pay taxes to get it :P
@Rob It's also limited to showing up to -50, which doesn't leave room for big bounties (or blunders) - to it's credit it shows "unupvote" (and presumably undownvote) separately:
@Mazura I never liked Quora. Still doesn't like and most likely will never use it, with or without a plus. :)
Now if it had pus, that would be different.
@Rob That would make it Queera.
Different platform.
No. :)
The fact that Quora makes you log in/sign up to see another question (if you click on the "related questions") makes me hate it
12:22 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah, and I never liked its UX anyway so not a big loss for me.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Huh: merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pus
@Mazura Oh and youtube music - they basically replaced google play music with a worse app that can't do the basics like play music with the screen off without paying
@cairdcoinheringaahing I open in new tab, did that quit working?
@JourneymanGeek yeah, I was really annoyed when it happened, I was using it daily to listen to songs in the car, as the car radio is ancient. Luckily I found even better alternative, Pulsar.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 uh
I run my own alternative :D
12:31 PM
@Rob oh, this pus.
Well was, I need to find time to set up the server on the new ute box
@JourneymanGeek you wrote your own music app?? Nice! :P
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 write no
Run, yes
I was running lightweight music server with a dsonic front end on my phone
next iteration I'm trying koel
Well server won't do what I need, which is something to play music stored locally on my device.
In some recent update Pulsar decided it's also playing voice messages from the various social apps (WhatsApp, Telegram, etc) which is annoying, but too lazy to remove and look for yet another one.
I just delete the voice messages. :D
1:02 PM
It's not clear what the problem being solved is: 1. Your phone already comes with a player APP that shows album cover art, 2. most phones have an FM Radio (might be hidden) if you want Top 20/100, ...
@Rob on android, that was GPM and now youtube music
the former was great
the latter is unfit for purpose
@Rob no, Realme added Music app only in some recent update, before that there was none.
@JourneymanGeek YouTube music is awful.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 I'll be polite and unsweary. unfit for purpose
I also have too much music I might want to listen to for local playback
and unlimited network on both ends
@JourneymanGeek awful isn't swear word. I think? ;)
@JourneymanGeek huh, good.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 my actual sentiments ... probably would turn a nun magenta, and cause surrounding shrubbery to catch fire
1:13 PM
@JourneymanGeek I used to use Google Play, after it was removed I mapped the system sounds to play through the default APP, but since I have a Samsung phone I also have Samsung Music; each brand of phone probably has their own. Plus I have these great APPs which play virtually every possible file format and encoder combination of both videos and music:
All open source.
@Rob so... uh...
That's the problem we were talking about!
@Rob playing the music isn't the problem, what was missing is app showing all media on the device in one place, as a playlist, and let you shuffle it.
So "this is a music player I use, and like!"
and IMO foobar2k does playlists best
Well would use other than having a music collection too big for my phone...
1:16 PM
If I'll get tired of Pulsar I'll check foobar, thanks. :D
Samsung Music does that, and shows the image of the album cover of the song that's playing.
Also google has broken my heart more often than it should :D
first google reader, then GPM
@JourneymanGeek Google+?
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 didn't care that much for that
@JourneymanGeek Google Wave?
Google Buzz?
1:18 PM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Lovely concept but a problem looking for a solution
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 I think I used it, but I hardly remember what it was
Oh yes
the OG jabber based google chat
just for the buzz...
Well all of those were Google miserable attempts at social media, no?
1:29 PM
Googly Eyes™
(huh, I just realized it's a Google easter egg)
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 The ability to control from the AOD when the phone is in sleep mode is another great feature.
"Switch to YouTube TV for 85+ channels, unlimited DVR space, and over $500 annual savings" - how can I save money that I don't spend? 85 channels? Mind blown....
My TV has like 200 news channels....
Cost? $50 a month for ISP
@Mazura $50 a month is more than $500 annual, so that's still possible
1:47 PM
@b_jonas *over * $500 annual. It'd better be $500.01 - borderline false advertising.
Now I can't get it to pop up and see if there's an astrix
Also, the Net is all messed up today?
cant open xfinity mail and firefox has blank, new tabs, with no thumbnails
Google should team up with Amazon and pay my cable bill, so I can spend money on the internet (jokes on them... I don't ;). Electric companies used to give you free light bulbs...
"cable bill" pffft. That reminds me. I'm still paying for a "box" that does nothing. I watch "TV" with Cat5, not coax. ... People still use DVRs? My god.
2:03 PM
@Mazura If you want to pay nothing there's a dozen free TV channels: nocable.org/availability-report/zip/60619-chicago-il
Ah Dan woke up, and is handing out status-* tags
@Rob My locale even. That's good stuff ;). Yeah, one of these days I'll get an antenna. But I barely even watch the news though. If I want to see the riots downtown I can use the internet... or just look out my window
Window TV is great, if you are in a good location.
2:26 PM
@Rob Mazura meant this window, not this one.
@Mazura In the Spring of 2022 you will be able to watch 4K TV for free: watchnextgentv.com/nextgen-tv-markets
I already watch 4k for free... for $50 a month
avast me hardies!
I saw an 8K... hoyl molyl
I want 42" 8k though. Not eight feet tall
OTA is uncompressed, way better than cable or Internet TV.
I'm three feet from over 8M pixels. Some times I just sit and stare at my desktop with a 4k Milkyway and try to pick out a pixel. Which I can't. I think back about playing games at 640; that would be the upper 2 square inches of my screen...
2:41 PM
@Mazura UHD screen? :D
I think (hope) we skip 8k and start doing whole rooms like in the deleted 'forest' scene of Aliens, because VR sucks. 1024k @10k fps.... mmm can't wait.
@Mazura I think I have a spreadsheet somewhere of optimum distance/resolution/size
@JourneymanGeek yep. Was $300; can't find that today. LG-something. 120Hz HDR
@Mazura that's... cheap
freaking amazing even if it crap quality
smooth-motion or w/e
2:43 PM
I think my 60hz prisms (basically rebranded chinese monitors ) were around that price range
granted I bought 2 ._.
And there's no screen door. Not one little bit
yeah :D
It's like looking at an iPhone that's 3' wide
but the problem is every other display looks garbage :D
Just got my parents a comparable one. Was about $1k
2:46 PM
I think the dells I was looking at in future were around that range ._.
after 'discount'
My first 4k monitor was $300. The next one up, $350, had HDR but also a screen door. No door is more important to me than HDR, but there's no going back after HDR...
(course after 2023 when I move out, and models would be different)
I had a dell (<3) and a crossover. Dell died, and I got a pair of prisms which are "ok"
Crossover was around your price range
No HDR yet
(friend still has it)
HDR makes LCDs look like warm CRTs
Well I'll find out next upgrade cycle :D
I still got no ray-tracing tho ;p
2:50 PM
My last upgrade was a 3080
My last upgrade was an entire computer ... with nothing left to upgrade (sad face)
$300 vid card that , again, you can't buy today
I'm in the Ryzen club now. Intel can suck it
Now's a bad time for PC purchases
There's very little 8K content, you'll need to pay for a great TV and if using cable an expensive converter (for only a few channels), and you'll need a 40 Mbps Internet speed: forbes.com/sites/robpegoraro/2021/01/14/… 8kassociation.com/industry-info/newsletter/…
Bought my Ps new computers. They were better than my gaming rig.... that had to be fixed ;)
I'm probably waiting till I get the new apartment (at the moment ~2023... was delayed cause of covid)
2:54 PM
Oh my dad ran an old thinkpad for ...14 years until it totally died
picked up a SFF dell box
my current upgrade was mostly "Its been 6 years" :D
@Rob Internet speed doesn't matter when you don't stream.... and instead DL, for use later, and the rest of all time.
@Mazura then you need lots of hard disk space :D
I'm at 20+ G
20gb is... not much
2:56 PM
erm, T yes\
that's 6 HDD
One of 'em is an 8T... don't remember dropping $300 on a drive.. again, stuff you can't get
Blame Chia
12 and 16s are like 1k
Well and covid, but nearly everything is covid's fault
Damn it China, send me cheap stuff.
@JourneymanGeek And covid is China's fault, so blaming China will do ;)
2:58 PM
@Tinkeringbell at this point, I think its gone beyond that
SARS started there too
and it didn't put everyone's life on hold for 2 years
Same thing
@Mazura You'll still use up your quota, even if you have 1/4 speed. If you have 1/10th speed you can only watch one show per day; which could easily be all that is available - there's certainly not 365 8K movies, so you'll run out of stuff to watch pretty quick.
.... quota?
DL cap... some BS
On my home internet
They slipped that in sometime last year
@JourneymanGeek Root cause analysis ;) SARS started there too, so they're to blame for SARS as well. Doesn't matter that SARS was handled better than COVID, or less contagious or deadly or whatever
3:00 PM
Once you hit it you'll either have 🐌 speed or be cut off.
go over the cap it goes up, up to, $100 a month
No one but people who DL 128g BRs is going to care
I think that's a reasonable approximation of my monthly network usage :D
@Tinkeringbell It wasn't
@JourneymanGeek how to see that
It didn't have the incubation period
@Mazura uh
I built my own router - and use vnstat to get my monthly data usage
I'm going to pull over 20g... today.
I mean, already. And it's 9AM
3:05 PM
This is just my phone:
Ryan Donovan on December 08, 2021
Vision AI used to be something only specialized shops could add to projects. Now it’s accessible to any software developer out there.
@Rob I share 10g (?) with my two parents and we only run out in July when I'm at the cabin for the 4th and the wifi sucks. You and I don't use our phones the same way ;)
I browse Imgur and make phone calls. I don't let myself sign in to SE on the phone anymore.
Try it sometime. You'll find a lot more work gets done ;)
Some months it's several G higher, ~32G would be about the lowest.
More work?, sounds like more TV time. :)
@Feeds Vision AI hardware for onebox developers
Is there a way to get the old interface (activity page)?
3:17 PM
@Wolgwang no
I am assuming it was some SE's easter egg.
You really never saw it until today?
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Welp
There is a third, I think, forgot which though.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Third?
3:22 PM
@M.A.R. might know
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 What's first/second?
He has three kidneys, after all.
Ever had a computer up for a year and a half?
Windows 2000 FTW
@Mazura yeah
Think record was two years and something
The pinnacle of human civilization: c. 1999
3:25 PM
@Mazura As mobile is technically a computer...so yes
Bet DOS could stay up for 10 years.
more sponsored BS that isn't clearly marked as such
This speaks more about Chicago's energy grid than anything else. DT Chicago hasn't lost power in 20y. No BS.
Texas, man wtf you guys doing
@Luuklag Is there a way to remove the whitespace here?
3:31 PM
@Wolgwang run this in your browser's JS console:
$(".s-post-summary").css("padding", "3px");
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 16 years. lansweeper.com/news/…
@Mazura :)
@Wolgwang :)
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 :)
@Wolgwang make smaller padding in your CSS
3:34 PM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 Do I have to run it every time?
@Wolgwang yeah, or integrate into a userscript.
Firefox got Greasemonkey, dunno about Chrome.
I wanna open a meta question about what Harper does for a living. AFAICT he was a machinist, now a lawyer who works for a bank and knows how to fly.
@Mazura Harper?
Do you read SE ffs? ;p
If it's a well formatted answer outside of SF&F , it's Harper
He's been wrong twice AFAIK.
And went from 0 to 120k rep on DiY in like 8mons
Dude can write.
6k answer....my god.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 I know all teh things
I just forget most of them
3:59 PM
nice job on organising that table @JNat
must have been a fun job ;)
4:23 PM
@M.A.R. so what's the third easter egg on this chat?
@Shadow a full list should be here.
Feels like cheating, but hey I know the third. ;)
lol they even randomize the amount of stars... good job, balpha! :D
(or was it Jeff? It's ancient...)
I wonder what mods see when clicking on the transcript link from that search (if it's even a valid link).
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