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Rob

12:21 AM

Hot would certainly hurt more.

Rob

2:14 AM

@Feeds Current model, for reference:

rene

7:06 AM

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Sonic the Masked Werehog

7:23 AM

I wonder what's going to be featured now...

When was the last time a question from this site was automatically unfeatured after 30 days by the Community user, and not by a human?

Yaakov Ellis

@SonictheMaskedWerehog you have a few minutes to figure it out

Mithical

new syntax highlighting announcement

Yaakov Ellis

@Mithical nope. not yet

Sonic the Masked Werehog

Was it because of the recent answer to my question that it was noticed by the team?

Yaakov Ellis

@SonictheMaskedWerehog about syntax highlighting?

Sonic the Masked Werehog

7:30 AM

@YaakovEllis Yes

Yaakov Ellis

no. this has been in the works for a while. coincidence.

Sonic the Masked Werehog

Would have been nice to have a status-review tag, or at the very least a comment indicating "we're aware of this and are working on it". Prior to yesterday's tagging, it seemed like it had been ignored as there was no outward public indication that it was being looked into.

But it's nice to know now that it was indeed being looked into

Yaakov Ellis

@SonictheMaskedWerehog yup, agreed. A bunch of moving parts on this, but that would have been ideal. At least we were able to status-planned things in advance this time.

Yaakov Ellis

7:56 AM

@SonictheMaskedWerehog posted

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Q: Hot Meta Posts: Allow for mod removal, and thoughts about future improvements

We have just released a new feature for Moderators across the entire network: the ability to remove a Meta post from showing up in the Hot Meta Posts (HMP) section of the Community Bulletin on the parent site. Some details about this feature: Moving forward, any meta posts that are added to HMP ...

Just passed 30k on MSE

Meta Andrew T.

8:49 AM

@YaakovEllis woohoo! thanks SE team! :)

Journeyman Geek

9:45 AM

@YaakovEllis technically.... One usually plans in advance 😁

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek It's can be bad practice to share such plans though :P

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell it depends. 😁

Tinkeringbell

I'm not sharing my evil plans before I get to my evil monologue.

Journeyman Geek

(might be popping in and out. On medical leave the rest of the week cause my eye decided to go all emotional on me, which lead to finding out I have a blocked ear, and my doc had an unexpectedly easy time convincing me I had to go on BP meds 😁)

John Dvorak

Make sure that you have enough fluff that the protagonist be given a fair chance to escape... and some more if they fail at first

DavidPostill

9:53 AM

@JourneymanGeek Sorry to hear that. Get well soon. Note that BP meds are a good thing if you need them and will prevent more serious problems later on ...

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill runs in the family. 😁

I am more muffed by the recurring sore eyes tbh

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Can also be caused by stress, irregular working hours and/or sleep patterns, excess weight ...

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, this isn't the first time you mention those... Are you doing anything weird that causes them?

@JohnDvorak Of course! Have you ever seen me write on here? I can do fluffy :D

John Dvorak

But can you monologue long enough for an average D&D rag-tag team solve a typical riddle of the sorts that would be normally found in an ancient temple turned into an evil overlord lair?

Tinkeringbell

10:16 AM

Hmm. I have no experience with average D&D rag-tag teams, sadly. But if I run out of monologue, I can always start singing and introduce another problem :P

John Dvorak

10:31 AM

Alternatively you could be a lawful good antagonist. Witness after witness after witness after witness... all scrutinized to the tiniest detail. That's gonna kill some time.

John Dvorak

10:41 AM

... or just tons of paperwork, but it's harder to create enough tension that way... but I'd certainly be interested in a realistic d&d battle of law one-off

Journeyman Geek

10:55 AM

@Tinkeringbell not really. There's really no common thing that triggers them

@DavidPostill uh. I usually say yes for all questions... But it's literally all of those 😁

M.A.R.

@JourneymanGeek Oh, so increased CSF pressure?

Journeyman Geek

Csf?

Maybe. No idea

M.A.R.

11:10 AM

@JourneymanGeek well what did the doctor say?

Mithical

NO MORE MONKEYS JUMPING ON THE BED

M.A.R.

@Mithical Excuse me, are you a doctor?

Tells the monkeys to ignore Mith and continue jumping

Hmm, am I imagining the monkeys because the bed doesn't seem to move

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R. just thaty ears and sinuses were clogged 😁

Have me ear drops, antihistamines and no meds

M.A.R.

@JourneymanGeek so where do the hypertension drugs come in?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

11:33 AM

@M.A.R. you don't jump enough.

@Rob I think @M.A.R need the monkeys to jump on his bed, can you please help?

@YaakovEllis soon you'll have much more... ;)

Journeyman Geek

11:44 AM

@M.A.R. oh. My gp noticed when I went in the time I got bitten

Rob

12:40 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Have the person who put them in the trashcan retrieve them if you're feeling blue.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

12:52 PM

@Rob red parrot will get mad, better have @M.A.R jump alone.

I can't join and help him due to Corona and other reasons.

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Just so you know, I wasn't the one that minded the monkeys. But yeah, I do get mad when people drag things out of the trash ;)

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Tinkeringbell I know, didn't even bother to check who put it there, since knew you'll pop first. :P

Dog's bite isn't less sore, but your eyes are sharper!

:D

!!/jump bed

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizardWearingMask No such command 'jump'.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

:(

Hey just thought of something!

!!/coffee Ollie rhymes

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Ollie

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

12:55 PM

And so is

!!/tea Shree

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of passionfruit tea for @Shree

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

You're welcome. ;)

@Tink probably it was moved by one of the RO's around, no? Mod would likely just delete it, not bothering the whole process of moving. :)

Tinkeringbell

Probably, yeah... no worries, just didn't want people to think it was me that moved them ;)

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

yeah it was @Mith. Duh. :P

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizardWearingMask It's Yaakov Ellis's fault.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

12:59 PM

Smokey!

No!

Yaakov isn't to blame, now say you're sorry. Smokey.

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask You're in the blue, it wasn't @Tink ell

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Ollie thanks for the ares!

@Rob actually wearing orange today.

Orange and black to be accurate.

Let's see... nothing blue today.

Except my sunglasses and water bottle, but those are permanently blue.

Mithical

@ShadowWizardWearingMask ?

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask ಠಿ_ಠ [suspicious gaze] tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrangeBlueContrast colorpalettes.net/tag/dark-blue-and-orange

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Mithical you moved blue monkey to trashcan... cries

:D

(about a week ago? Maybe two)

@Rob no, still not blue.

Rob

1:11 PM

Half of 6-8 weeks.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

yup

Spevacus

ಠ_ಠ

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Oh hey @Spe

Spevacus

Hallo hallo

How are you @Sha?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Spe rhymes with תה which is the Hebrew word for tea. ;)

Spevacus

1:18 PM

Oh, really?

!!/tea

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus brews a cup of mint tea for @Spevacus

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Yup

Spevacus

Lovely

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

תה sounds like "Teh"

@Spevacus fine, thanks! You?

Spevacus

Just fine! ;D

Rob

1:30 PM

and ... :)

Was just making some Kopi Harimau, want a cup @Sha?

Meta Andrew T.

Tiger coffee???

Rob

ala Kopi Luwak

Meta Andrew T.

Oh, it's interpreted as "Hari-hari Mau" (the day when you want to ...), not "Harimau" (tiger)

Rob

!!/coffee Sha

SmokeDetector

@Rob brews a cup of Ristretto for @Sha

Meta Andrew T.

1:38 PM

@MetaAndrewT. wut is this coffee XD

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob sure!

@MetaAndrewT. coffee that makes men strong, from what I've seen. :D

Kind of like the spam we get on MSE, but served by @Rob so I'm fine with it.

Rob

Google translate not always successful, for example: Kopi Hari-hari Mau Kopi (tried both ways is still) Coffee Everyday Want Coffee - which really wouldn't be the same thing.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

I'm not very strong, but my kids are impressed I can lift them both together. (each weight around 22 kg.)

Rob

This is as close an equivalent as is programmed into Smokey:

11 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

@Rob brews a cup of Ristretto for @Sha

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

> Ristretto is a "short shot" of a more highly concentrated espresso coffee

Yup

I have one every day at home, when not at office.

No coffee machine at work. :(

I had to order 100 more capsules.

Rob

1:52 PM

We had an espresso machine at work, that could make half a dozen different types, coin operated.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

wow

"Had"... what happened to it?

user400654

🚽

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Some people used it normally, like a human being, and some OCD'd it; when their fascination with the whirling, clicking, and buzzing wore off the number of users dropped dramatically; resulting in the vendor pulling the machine.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

2:10 PM

@Rob sorry to hear... but there are cheap machines as well, couldn't you buy one with the few others who share your love for a good and strong coffee? :)

Rubiksmoose

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Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Here it's just me and maybe one more, not enough to buy it ourselves, as it means hundreds of dollars for each. Even 100 is too much, probably.

I did buy a toaster.

Rubiksmoose

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Does it make good coffee?

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask It was the cheapest machine possible, not one of these soul suckers that hypnotizes the person; they were just simple, and fascinated easily.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rubiksmoose no :(

@Rob well, what's done is done...

Best coffee machine I remember was at the university. It also made awesome hot chocolate.

And it cost half a NIS, which is about 15 cents.

Rob

2:19 PM

Those are better, when they make creamy whipped HC too!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

No no, no cream.

Just tasty coffee/chocolate.

Time and not knowing anything better back then might skew the memory though. :D

Rubiksmoose

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Dang.

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask No no no, no. It wasn't about adding cream, it was whipped hot chocolate:

Like at a '70's gas station, near the rest room, for the Flavor Flav

user400654

2:37 PM

"fresh"

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob heh, never saw such machine.

@Rob only machines I saw next to rest rooms are for condoms.... don't remember seeing coffee machines in such location. :D

Anyway, how the machine whip it?

Rubiksmoose

2:58 PM

I think that might be my first bug report on MSE. And all because I have not seen the classic(?) 1995 film The Usual Suspects.

Apparently.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask I'm assuming something like this inside the machine.

Tinkeringbell

@Rubiksmoose I don't like it. Somehow the letters are weird and different and there's even more whitespace...

XD

But that's probably not a bug

Rubiksmoose

@Rubiksmoose And now my first unexplained downvote on a bug report XD

@Tinkeringbell Alas, I suspect not.

Tinkeringbell

I did hit up, right?

yes, yes I did.

Rubiksmoose

hahaha

Tinkeringbell

Is it just me though? I don't really like that much whitespace between lines, it somehow makes letters 'dance' a bit more?

Mithical

3:04 PM

in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 6 mins ago, by DavidW

Ugh, that's ugly. I hate the bloated 1.5 linespacing. Didn't we have studies already 20 years ago that linespacing should be either 1x or 2x line height, but most definitely not 1.5x?

Rubiksmoose

@Tinkeringbell I've actually not spent much time mainsite yet. But from the comments I say you are not imagining things.

@Mithical You're not wrong :)

Tinkeringbell

@Rubiksmoose Heh. Rep will be mine, I made it an answer :P meta.stackexchange.com/a/353529/369802

If only I hadn't rep-capped already today XD

Rubiksmoose

hahaha. Well then you are just donating rep to the ethereal SE gods ;-)

Tinkeringbell

Such a selfish way to spend the most boring meeting.

Rubiksmoose

Also hopefully my gif alt text was good enough.

Rob

3:14 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMask In North America the 'washroom vending machines' are inside the washroom - IE: If it's something you would buy in the washroom (male/female) the machine in question is located inside the washroom. The coffee and coke machines are outside because it doesn't take up space in the store and it's quicker for the vendor to affect repairs or swap out the machine.

DavidPostill

@Rob Being outside means that 1 coffee/coke machine can cater to all genders ...

@Tinkeringbell It has been marked [tag: status-bydesign]. This is a disaster.

Tinkeringbell

@DavidPostill Yeah, my inbox is kinda blowing up with all the sympathising. It's appreciated and annoying at the same time.

Rubiksmoose

Speaking of numbers @Glorfindel is all over that. His numbers are definitely not rookie numbers. Leave some for the rest of us! ;-)

@DavidPostill I think disaster might be a bit of an exaggeration maybe? Certainly not ideal.

DavidPostill

Well I hate it. I cannot think of 1 nice thing to say about that particular change. For a start it reduces my screen vertical real estate by what 50% or something?

Tinkeringbell

26 mins ago, by Tinkeringbell

@Rubiksmoose I don't like it. Somehow the letters are weird and different and there's even more whitespace...

Same here! But just saying 'I hate it' is probably not going to convince people to change it back :P That said, I do hope to learn the reason why this was changed, that might make it easier to make a case for changing it back :)

DavidPostill

3:29 PM

For me it is less readable.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rubiksmoose lol :D

@Rob interesting. Here the washrooms are usually small, so not enough room for machines.

What bug are you all talking about?

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Here is the whipper in that machine, but the image is small and it's hard to see. Here's a way bigger image of a different machine, with a different but similar design.

DavidPostill

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A: New post formatting

status-bydesign The amount of whitespace between lines of text (line-height) has changed. I don't know if this is intentional, but I liked the old one better. Was there a good reason for changing it, or can we have it back? I for one liked the old one better, because the new one makes letters 'da...

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob oh. Eh. Nice! How... did you get those pics? Oh, found the source. rozum.com/robots-coffee-maker

Rubiksmoose

Darn impressive to find the pics and know which part is which.

@DavidPostill Fair enough :) To be clear was not trying to undermine your opinion on the matter, by any means.

Tinkeringbell

3:35 PM

Sorry folks, I was in a meeting. Our line spacing is ~1.6. W3C writes the following: "Many people with cognitive disabilities have trouble tracking lines of text when a block of text is single spaced. Providing spacing between 1.5 to 2 allows them to start a new line more easily once they have finished the previous one." We prefer more spacing between our lines for better readability. I think there are possible refinements between block level elements though, and plan on further refinement to header spacing now that this is in production. — Aaron Shekey ♦ 2 mins ago

Rubiksmoose

Well on the face of it that seems like a fairly noble rationalle.

Tinkeringbell

We're a question and answer site, when I think of cognitive disabilities I think of sites the government makes for these kind of people, not a site where experts answer questions?

I should look up what those guidelines consider a cognitive disability.

Rob

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M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell "I understand people may be disliking this a lot, and I'm curious to hear if they have any good reasons" Because it makes everything harder to read?? — j08691 20 mins ago

Unpopular opinion: It makes text easier to read

But it's bad for code, that's for sure.

Meta Andrew T.

@Tinkeringbell 1.6... that's why it reminds of me final year paper (12pt, Times New Roman, 1.5 line spacing) :/

Tinkeringbell

3:48 PM

@MetaAndrewT. You're right! My thesis had 1.5 too!

M.A.R.

Notably, those things are supposed to be typographically superior. Still, they're papers; different rules apply to webpages I think

user400654

today feels like a taco day

Meta Andrew T.

Yeah, I'm currently searching "line space print vs screen" now...

and taco

Baba Yaga

M.A.R.

Content density now seems not to be a new problem but one that has been amplified to me, but I never paused to ponder typography in SE posts anyway

Baba Yaga

3:51 PM

See that cheeseburger 🍔

M.A.R.

I just had chicken burgers for lunch

Baba Yaga

How many? One is not enough for me;)

M.A.R.

@BabaYaga If he has clothes and sunglasses on, does that mean they have souls too?

Looks skeptically at own pants

Baba Yaga

@M.A.R. that disc above his head represents soul maybe

Rob

@Tinkeringbell That's for underlining and margin notes; the final approved copy is going to be publication quality (and make a nice .PDF).

M.A.R.

3:55 PM

Also he might be dead then but I'm pretty sure they're going to squeeze as much Iron Man as they can out of the actor.

Lots of prequels or flashbacks

Baba Yaga

@M.A.R. that's the only way I am gonna watch the movies

M.A.R.

Meh

Baba Yaga

Just for Fun, I am the guy who had iron man and rocket as his avatar

Rob

@user400654 Why just have a taco, when you can have:

Chicken Tikka Masala (with black pepper rice)

Baba Yaga

@Rob where'd you get that?

M.A.R.

3:58 PM

That stew looks yummy except the pepper part

Rob

Homemade

M.A.R.

Seriously, they overdo it with the spices

Baba Yaga

@Rob chicken tikka masala is exclusively indian dish

Meta Andrew T.

I miss this...

Rob

It's not all just pizza here :D

Baba Yaga

4:00 PM

Served with drinks ;-)

Rob

Coffee

M.A.R.

@BabaYaga It may be originally Indian, not exclusively

Meta Andrew T.

Biryani With Goat Meat

Baba Yaga

@M.A.R. atleast I used to think that until today

M.A.R.

@Rob Coffee with rice and stew sucks

Baba Yaga

4:01 PM

@MetaAndrewT. mutton biriyani

M.A.R.

In fact, since I'm now full, every food sucks

Baba Yaga

Looks just right

Rob

I don't like Stew either, he smells.

M.A.R.

@Rob That's nutritionist

user400654

@Rob i mean, the tacos at the place i go to are really good

M.A.R.

4:03 PM

Good for that place

Isn't it a lockdown where you live?

user400654

no

lockdown ended may 1st

DavidPostill

So riddle me this (Firefox on Windows):

> SE rendering:

font-size: 15px !important;
line-height: 24.2333px !important;

w3.org rendering:

font-size: 15px !important;
line-height: 21px !important;

user400654

we don't even have mandatory masks or shut down dine in

(this is mississippi)

DavidPostill

If W3 can use 21 why can't SE?

M.A.R.

So jealous much wow

OK, less jealous

user400654

4:04 PM

where we have more daily cases found than some countries

M.A.R.

It was never really an official lockdown here, like in France and such where people needed warrants to get out

Meta Andrew T.

still reading something-something about line spacing on totallytype.com/line-spacing.php ...

user400654

our positive test rate hovers between 20% and 30%

M.A.R.

@user400654 USA, USA, USA

Rubiksmoose

@AaronShekey There are just as many people (if not more) who find the current spacing harder to read. A profile setting is probably needed here. — user289905 10 mins ago

Baba Yaga

4:06 PM

@M.A.R. where do you live?

Asia?

M.A.R.

Our asshole government never locked down anything much

Rubiksmoose

@Rubiksmoose Anybody have any idea if this is true or if it is just a case of "I don't like it therefore I assume the vast majority of people agree with me" type of thinking?

Baba Yaga

@M.A.R. definitely Asia

M.A.R.

So the cases seem really inclined to stop but they don't because of people that only do as they're told

@BabaYaga Iran

@Rubiksmoose IKR, I do notice the new space but it's no way like a new paragraph to me

user400654

i'd prefer to work remote, but not allowed. at least i have on office space to myself

Baba Yaga

4:07 PM

@M.A.R. I win, that's border westen Asia?

Rob

@M.A.R. He made us two meals:

M.A.R.

I'm saying it might even be better in terms of typography and UX, if it wasn't for the extremely low content density

Rob

M.A.R.

@Rob Well, you. I don't eat bacon

@BabaYaga No, that's Middle East. We're kinda special in the whole world.

Rob

That's not bacon, it's Stewart.

Meta Andrew T.

4:10 PM

@M.A.R. also extremely low quality content (but that's usually one-liner)

M.A.R.

@Rob Knowledge is power

Baba Yaga

@M.A.R. should have taken more geography. Nevermind! Iran seems like a good place.

M.A.R.

Besides the occasional assumption that we're violence-condoning cultists, yeah it's alright

Rob

Keep that up and we'll be having baba ghanouj

Meta Andrew T.

baba is you?

M.A.R.

4:14 PM

@Rob stop reminding me of food, I hate food right now

Rob

> "The game centers around the manipulation of "rules"—represented by tiles with words written on them—in order to allow the player character, usually the titular Baba, to reach a specified goal."

M.A.R.

@Rob the world revolves around people that don't have anything to do doing weird stuff

John Dvorak

Ooh, like a court room /s

M.A.R.

@JohnDvorak this guy gets it

Meta Andrew T.

objection!

Rob

4:17 PM

Kung Pao Chicken

user400654

🌮

Rob

🤜 Pow @M.A.R.

John Dvorak

(disclaimer: not mine)

Tinkeringbell

@Rob Nope. 1.5 for everything.

Rob

@Tinkeringbell Some are double: gsas.harvard.edu/degree-requirements/dissertations/… and some single: grad.berkeley.edu/academic-progress/dissertation/…

Some simple, some very complicated set of specific requirements.

DavidPostill

4:29 PM

77

Q: Is there an optimal font size / line height ratio?

When styling text on web pages, both font size and line height can be set. For example, the text of this post will be displayed using a font-size of 14px and a line-height of (about) 18px, set using the value 1.3em. Looking at other websites, it seems that a ratio around 1.2 is a common practice...

accessibility html legibility font-sizes

Tinkeringbell

All in all though, I do like that quotes are now also a bit greyer? Though with the whitespace it's not that nice, I do like the grey color in general :)

Rob

Hehe, mandatory MathJax:

3152

Q: MathJax basic tutorial and quick reference

(Deutsch: MathJax: LaTeX Basic Tutorial und Referenz) To see how any formula was written in any question or answer, including this one, right-click on the expression it and choose "Show Math As > TeX Commands". (When you do this, the '$' will not display. Make sure you add these. See the next p...

support faq mathjax reference

[Note the credited author]

DavidPostill

twitter.com/MonicaCellio/status/1299019468593606657

Rob

MJD, Philadelphia, USA

57.4k 8 38 60

discussion bug support mathjax undeletion big-list re-open

DavidPostill

Why you no onebox?

> Stack Overflow has again made an optional design change that's hostile to the vision-impaired & quickly rejected complaints. They say it's for cognitive disability; to those of us w/vision disabilities they're saying "write client-side overrides for yourself, again". Inclusion!

Mithical

4:37 PM

Twitter oneboxes have been broken for... years

Rob

Inclusion:

16

A: Shouldn't the "English only" policy be mentioned in the FAQ?

Do we really need a NO ELEPHANTS sign? I mean, isn't such a thing obvious? Would you go to a forum where everyone was communicating in French and type Hey French Dudes, I got a question but I don't know French so I'm just going to go ahead and ask it in English anyway?

1 hour ago, by Tinkeringbell

We're a question and answer site, when I think of cognitive disabilities I think of sites the government makes for these kind of people, not a site where experts answer questions?

We can't afford to fund sending a teacher to people's homes, to provide them with years of schooling necessary to understand what's being said.

Sometimes I can't understand a question on an SE site, that's one I have to skip. It happens.

M.A.R.

4:51 PM

OK I'm convinced it does look better, reading this post

10

Q: Does Théoden actually say that he misses Gríma (his "old advisor") at one point in The Two Towers?

At roughly page 155 of The Two Towers, assuming that the English original follows roughly the same page numbers as my rather sloppy Swedish translation from 1970, king Théoden mentions that he now misses "both my old and new advisor", as Gandalf is away at the moment, rushing around on Shadowfax....

j-r-r-tolkien the-lord-of-the-rings

The only thing that seems eye-jarring is the quotes are too gray, maybe I'd get used to that, maybe not

John Dvorak

Hypothesis, it works better but only for long paragraphs, but worse for short ones?

Meta Andrew T.

Conclusion, users are expected to write 10000-character (excluding source code) posts from now on?

M.A.R.

It'd admittedly look better with one of the badass serif fonts, but honestly, only now I'm noticing how bad the initial spacing really was.

@MetaAndrewT. Which post there has even close to that number of characters, good sir

Meta Andrew T.

probably not that much...

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A: Is $\frac{\textrm{d}y}{\textrm{d}x}$ not a ratio?

Historically, when Leibniz conceived of the notation, $\frac{dy}{dx}$ was supposed to be a quotient: it was the quotient of the "infinitesimal change in $y$ produced by the change in $x$" divided by the "infinitesimal change in $x$". However, the formulation of calculus with infinitesimals in t...

John Dvorak

Oooh, that would be clever if the line spacing made people write longer answers (logical size, not visual)

Meta Andrew T.

4:58 PM

but did our castle went taller too?

772

A: <kbd> elements are way too intrusive

John Dvorak

The aspect ratio is preserved, but the right tower is overhanging

Meta Andrew T.

corrosion after a decade...

M.A.R.

More like a bloated corpse, but the only other blatant GoT fan seems to be snoozing at the moment

John Dvorak

I don't mind that, but either the castle is now defying the laws of nature, or uses some pretty bad-ass mortar

... or has been made out of Minecraft

Meta Andrew T.

Ah, I see why the change to line space is jarring... because the question list still uses old line space >_<

John Dvorak

5:03 PM

so does the comment section

M.A.R.

Haha I can't stop laughing

@Aibobot We can't toggle this changeset on and off per site, so it'll go live across the network once the PR is merged and deployed. We did do extensive internal testing, so fingers crossed y'all shouldn't see any actual bugs. — Adam Lear ♦ yesterday

I remember the immediate pang of skepticism when I got to "fingers crossed"

Where else do you get so many free testers though, even if they're recently a bit more emotional about things

John Dvorak

As long as they listen to feedback, I don't mind.

Meta Andrew T.

I further hope to getting hands crossed

Tinkeringbell

5:21 PM

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/353475/… Yes, I made sense! :D

Take that, chatroom!

Meta Andrew T.

Hold it!... uhh... no, don't hold that!

DavidPostill

Stack-Exchange-Userscripts/StackCompactLineHeight.user.js at master · CertainPerformance/Stack-Exchange-Userscripts · GitHub

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Sets the line height back to what it was :)

Tinkeringbell

5:37 PM

Awesome!

Stole that.

John Dvorak

tabmarking - but I do want to give SE chance to revert it on their own

Tinkeringbell

I've put a link to the script in my answer... people had already started adding related links anyways ;)

Baba Yaga

6:03 PM

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Q: Why does Tony Stark not like being handed things?

I have been revisiting old MCU movies and realised that on several occasions Tony refuses to accept things that people are handing to him. While purchasing strawberries for Pepper he paid with his watch and asked the man to put them in the car seat. When Agent Coulson tries to hand him a file ...

marvel marvel-cinematic-universe iron-man

look at my post!

John Dvorak

why?

Baba Yaga

@JohnDvorak no reason

just for fun

John Dvorak

then no look

Meta Andrew T.

I came, I looked, I wondered

John Dvorak

I came, I saw, I left

Meta Andrew T.

6:07 PM

why there's a yellow lemon tree...

Baba Yaga

@MetaAndrewT. where?

everywhere

Meta Andrew T.

LEMON TREE ANIMATION WITH LYRICS

►

Rob

@BabaYaga I find that usually when someone is trying to hand me something it is to justify an interruption that I don't need by offering something that I don't want - a double ripoff. Accepting it then burdens my hands to hold the unwanted object and further the trouble to find somewhere to put (chuck) it. --- Just take your junk and go, it's not like it's a wad of cash.

But if you two are now far ahead, well that's my loss.

Rubiksmoose

6:38 PM

Anybody else getting a "connection is not private" notice when going to data.stackechange.com?

John Dvorak

I get a cert warning that I can override

Tinkeringbell

Same here.

DavidPostill

> It’s likely the website’s certificate is expired, which prevents Firefox from connecting securely.

John Dvorak

Interestingly enough, I can't reproduce it after overriding the warning.

Meta Andrew T.

@Rubiksmoose typo? echange?

Rubiksmoose

6:41 PM

whoops

data.stackexchange.com

Typo indeed

@JohnDvorak Same

Meta Andrew T.

ah yes, certificate expired today (28 Aug)

Rubiksmoose

that'll do it!

Tinkeringbell

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Q: NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID error at data.stackexchange.com

I'm currently getting a "connection not private error" over at the Stack Exchange Data Explorer (using Chrome). I have verified that my date and time settings are correct, and another user has confirmed receiving the same error.