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7:00 AM

!!/morning

SmokeDetector

@Shadow9 No such command 'morning'.

Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog

:(

@Rob Halo

(winning song for Eurovision 2020 pre-contest)

7:21 AM

@JNat Cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/17542038/tapan-patni

7:54 AM

@Shadow9 you're welcome in Rotterdam

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Q: I have accidentally deleted dpkg permanently from linux mint 19.3

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And sudo is not working to update, upgrade and install things... Please help me to resolve this...

support

build from source ...

Linux sounds like a pain. — Layman

well, Mr. Layman isn't necessarily wrong

@Shadow9 hmmmm.

7:57 AM

it kinda is more unforgiving than Windows

I guess anything that gives you more control is

well yeah

Sometimes I do wish to be a sheep

Chews on the screen

I'm not saying it necessarily is a bad thing, but it is a valid reason to not use Linux

If someone doesn't want/need the additional control, that is

Mhm

There are so many things to learn in life that I'm not sure Linux will make it

And I'm too jaded to pretend to be a script kiddie

Types randomly on keyboard, Matrix music in the background

@Sha I still almost read your name as "Shog9" :(

OK, I'm getting around to reading Jon's blog post . . . Just found it

Mithical

8:12 AM

As long as I don't touch anything, Ubuntu works fine

I have this aura around me with pcs. Nothings ever works exactly like documentation would lead me to expect

So you go in with a hammer to mend them?

@rene thanks! Will you be there? ;)

morning

@Shadow9 If you saw a dandelion that's bending in the wind like it's being snarky at you, it's him

@Magisch Morgen

8:27 AM

@It'sOver that's unclear.

ur unclear

Even though I did see what you did there.

Bad dog.

Don't do things there.

No @rene is unclear. I am perfectly focu... SQUIRREL!

Q: What to do with broken avatars generated by Google?

heh, found the source of Google imported avatars not showing. The raw URL in SE database is, for example lh3.googleusercontent.com/a-/… the double =k-s cause the image to break, if you omit one it works, e.g. lh3.googleusercontent.com/a-/… for 128x128 and lh3.googleusercontent.com/a-/… for 328x328 /cc @YaakovEllis

Is this an easy fix, Yaakov? ^

Already reported, and turns out someone found what I told and posted as answer...

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Recently, some users that have their avatar generated by (or just imported from?) Google have a broken avatar, since Google no longer provides an image at the given URL, but a 404. See My picture is missing on my profile page, for an example. Now, this isn't really the fault of SE, but there ma...

bug profile-page profile-picture google-plus

Anyway, 100 rep bonus if it's fixed. ;)

SE is turning off TLS 1.0 and 1.1 soon. If you are still running this, here's an ISO kid, get a better browser

ISO?

8:33 AM

@Shadow9 I certainly won't be in Ahoy but are happy to show you around ..

....

@It'sOver image format :D

Oh

The joke is penny but browsers are free

@Shadow9 this is the type of thing that is easy if you have 1000 users, and an enormous pain in the butt at SO/SE scale. I'll see what I can do

Well, there are so many abbreviations like that you have found my weakness

8:33 AM

@rene will keep that in mind! ;)

To confuse me with things like ISO and PERI and SO

@YaakovEllis how so? Can't it at least be fixed at the source so the double scaling flag won't be added to future users?

@It'sOver GOK

OMG WHAT DOES IT MEAN

POC

AYMWM

8:36 AM

LEK

Which brings me to the next question, why do people use txtspk anyway. Just abbreviate everything. Much shorter, and just as incomprehensible

too boring

txt spk is abbv!

D00D!

u nrd

:3

8:37 AM

Also, everything hurts

R.E.M?

Naw, had a state mandated fitness session

haven't one in a while

EVERYTHING HURTS

HA HAHA

Not everything hurts over here and it means I should laugh at your misery

Kidneys are fine? Not hurting?

(including the ghost kidney)

@It'sOver well when Shog will be back guess I better change my name again. :P

@It'sOver and?

@Shadow9 at least the user seems to have found out the source of the bug by themselves. It would be worse if someone used his gold hammer to close a bug report as unclear and then reposted the same bug report 5 minutes later under their name (happened)....

8:41 AM

@It'sOver dande who?

I have random places hurting every now and then, said to be yet another side effect of the drugs

@Shadow9 Dan De Lion

Rene's real name is Dan. Who knew.

@BlueSoul hammer can't be used to close as unclear, only dupe

@BlueSoul When you put it that way, lol

@It'sOver Lion Flower?

@Shadow9 The lines are blurry

8:44 AM

> So when I wrote the blog post, I was in the odd situation of announcing a feature intended to make the site more welcoming that was largely designed by the very community that was labeled (by other employees) as particularly unwelcoming.

I'm just gonna post parts of Jon's blog post that are very bah dum tiss-y.

Except the starting quote. That speaks for itself, and holy crap, it hit close to home

@Shadow9 will have to check. I remember it was a single-hand closure, and now that you mention it.... it probably was a gold-hammer closure on the bug tag.

I seem to have a vague memory of the original poster commenting that their question was not a dupe... so probably you are right.

@Shadow9 not all of the avatar failures fit this pattern

Yet... I fear that this version would only make things worse since then the "theft" only seem more deliberate (first I claim this is a dupe, then i repost it as mine)

@BlueSoul I am ;)

8:55 AM

@Shadow9 now I kinda wonder if you say this because that is the only way that could have happened... or because you remember this specific instance.... :P

@BlueSoul maybe :D

@YaakovEllis maybe this one is because he deleted/changed his Google profile pic?

@Shadow9 I am sure that there is a reason. but it is not as simple as "there is one reason for all of the failures"

well... there is a single reason actually. Using google avatars :P

@YaakovEllis I see you're a man of philosophy

@YaakovEllis true. Let's see who's to blame...

!!/blame bad avatars

SmokeDetector

9:03 AM

@Shadow9 It's rene's fault.

3

Yup

@JNat daily cross site spammer for you. Thanks! :)

@SmokeDetector Smoke, you have grown

@Shadow9 :/

@Shadow9 wheel of blame is so much cooler than that

@rene I am... Impressed

9:16 AM

Wow! Thanks!

/me has no idea how someone manages to accidentally their package manager

actually, they accidentally python3

Well, if you can manage to accidentally rm -rf / , I suppose all is possible

They probably thought they were snaked

I vaguely remember there's things in linux to stop you shooting yourself in the foot

@JAD funny story that

independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/…

@JAD This is like the most common trolling in history of computer science, no?

9:21 AM

@rene \:

@YaakovEllis so bring it here... let us enjoy its never ending blaming. :D

@Shadow9 that is the problem. it would be on almost all the time. someone would write a script to run it once every 30 seconds or so. Would ruin the fun.

and if we brought it over, then you would have no motivation to figure out what song plays in the background

@It'sOver think this one is:

> Alt+F4 is a bait and switch trolling technique used against users who lack knowledge of operating system shortcuts and features. When asked how to perform an online action (i.e. "omg how do I use colourz?!?!") a helpful troll will offer advice in the form of "press alt+f4"--this keyboard shotcut command closes down the active window in most Windows applications, at which point the successful troll wallows in their own crapulence.

wait. Song playing in the background? :D

I fell for that myself in my first day into Windows.

alt+f4 is a lot less destructive though

9:28 AM

@YaakovEllis ugh, thought you weren't around then Marc brought the Translator here... just to close it down when heavily abused. lol

ooh

but yeah, I saw the suggestion recently that linux runs much faster if you remove the french language module

I remember that vaguely

@Shadow9 Well, your generation, not mine

:D

9:28 AM

the command for that of course being rm -fr /

@JAD well, whoever convinced him to remove python 3...

@JAD that dosen't work any more

ah

there's literally a thing stopping you from deleting root

@Shadow9 You're supposed to hold the button, grandpa!

sounds sensible

A: How far will you get with an 'rm -rf /' command?

9:29 AM

sudo rm -fr - -no-preserve-root will properly hose your system

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How far you can get, it's basically depend on the specific Unix/Linux distributions. But to answer your base question, yes - rm command would be removed with it as well as any other standard command in /bin and other folders. Here is the simple test which I've performed in Linux Ubuntu 15.04 us...

Someone tried it so you don't have to. Unles you're feeling nihilistic

@Yaakov is this your doing? Any feature request leading to the change? :)

@Shadow9 what do you think?

@YaakovEllis it is your doing, but done as part of internal project

Missing punctuation

Just want official place to link to instead of a screenshot, here.

@It'sOver missing face

:P

9:39 AM

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Showing 12 community out of 165 visible communities ...

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@rene :grabs the giant S:

right

9:42 AM

oh

calling @Jeff

@JAD you grabbed the R by mistake

grabs the s sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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Do I have a SEDE query that tells me which community I don't have an account for?

I think there was one

Q: Planned Maintenance scheduled for Wednesday, February 5, 2020 for Data Explorer

@rene no SEDE today

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9:45 AM

@It'sOver it's pacman

eating cherry

You're the one with uncouth mind ;)

@Shadow9 Here you go. Yes, I worked on it. Something left over from the original launch, plus cleans up some tech debt needed for net core move.

Cherries are uncouth

@It'sOver depends where they are located

I was going to update that today. you are too fast

9:47 AM

@Shadow9 Facepalm

@YaakovEllis yay! Thanks!

There is a concept called SUBTLETY, dangit.

@It'sOver now take the cherry out your pocket

And slowly murmuring and giggling behind @Blue's back

@Shree nice new avatar! going to visit Nepal

Shree

9:52 AM

:D A National Tourism Campaign, 'Visit Nepal 2020'

You're part of it, or just feeling patriotic? ;)

Shree

Just patriotic.

@Shadow9 not yet 14:00 UTC. @Taryn needs to wake up first and grab a coffee ...

@rene what?! Was sure she's going to do it while sleeping.

:D

She wished ;)

9:54 AM

My son can bathe and brush teeth while sleeping. Really.

Chronic sleep deploying

@Shadow9 awesome

Might take vid (of the teeth brushing) to prove. ;)

@Shadow9 Nah, I think it's a case of team dad underestimating team son

GO SONS

I feel patriotic

9:56 AM

@It'sOver hey don't go Derpy on me

:P

I will always be a son in spirit

@It'sOver Sons of Iran?

Sons Of Iran League

First Google image result...

So you're there? ;)

@Shadow9 disclaimer: the word "Derpy" managed to cause a lot of problem to Hasbro once, and they didn't even had a welcoming wagon hanging on their head at the time. You may want to avoid using that as an adjective.

9:59 AM

Sons Harmonized, Institute of Tavern

@BlueSoul you're not Derpy here... :(

@Shadow9 heh, what's the context

@Shadow9 Not that I would care or get offended, but Hasbro history shows it is quite easy to use that word as a pretest for nitpicking. Wouldn't want anyone here to use that to troll-suspend random users.

They keep digging down but they wouldn't go that low

I am beneath their contempt. Way too many eloquent people doing their thing on metas.

@BlueSoul meh, doubt anyone will use it except me

@It'sOver Sons of Iran

Q: Isn't the notion that everything will occur in an infinite timeline an example of the gambler's fallacy?

10:04 AM

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I've seen a few different formulations of this, but the most famous is "monkeys on a typewriter" - that if you put a team of monkeys on a typewriter, given infinite time, they will eventually produce the works of Shakespeare, and indeed every text ever written or even conceivable. (Other argument...

logic philosophy-of-mathematics fallacies probability

I don't get the logic of the asker

@It'sOver things get weird when Infinity is involved.

Same as Time Travel in movies or TV shows.

I'm surprised GoT didn't use time travel in the last season, bet they considered it.

Jon Snow travels back in time, killing the Night King before he became White Walker

@Shadow9 lucky you - I am just surprised it survived until that season.

@BlueSoul what survived?

@Shadow9 GoT

I "GoT" bored far before that.

@BlueSoul umm... sure it did? The most viewed TV show in the history... why not?

It could have survived even 10 more seasons.

10:10 AM

@Shadow9 Yep, exactly what I meant :P I don't get what people find in that series. ^_^

but... I am kinda weird I guess.

@BlueSoul violence and nudity

The last season was so badly greeted not only because it had a terrible plot, but also because it lacked both of those.

@Shadow9 yep, and that is kinda what I meant.

"Greatest fantasy book series EV4R!"

@Shadow9 and it was kinda rushed endingwise

so great that it dropped like a rock when fanservice was toned down?

(spoilers?)

terdon

10:21 AM

@Shadow9 huh?

I admit I don't remember if it lacked nudity or not, but it sure as hell didn't lack violence!

10:38 AM

@Shadow9 there was plenty of violence

10:49 AM

I feel bad because I could never get into GoT

Every time I wanted to sit down to watch the series or read the books I thought about more interesting fantasy series and read those instead

you should be glad

less grief about the horrible ending of the show

less hopeless hope that the books will ever be finished

I read about the ending of the show

and saw a couple scenes

did not look worth watching the whole series for

I have the gist of the show because my friends keep talking about it and I think I watched part of a couple of episodes

@Magisch Was that the scene with Arya in front of an old abandoned house on a sandy planet?

Oh, no, wait.... wrong horrible ending

no the one where the blonde woman with the dragons got stabbed

dae something

hmm, I wouldn't recommend the show to anyone so they can see the last season. At best it would be despite the ending, since until like S5 the show was great

10:53 AM

..... seems my joke was either too obscure or the parrot isn't a fan of Stellar Conflicts Episode 204: Disney Needs Cash Again

@BlueSoul hmm, I haven't seen SW9 yet, but I'm guessing you're referring to SW9?

@JAD whistles

blog.discordapp.com/…

old.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/eyuebc/…

help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/115011350967-Claps

anyway.... only one more week and we will know if the Super Mario movie will finally lose its status as worst videogame based movie in the history of humanity.

how would you feel if you could upvote any post up to 50 times

11:00 AM

interesting stuff

you mean sanic the hodgepodge?

that's on feb 20

@user1306322 sadly, the design was fixed. I still hope that they leave the old design as a bonus on the Blu-ray version

yea I'd watch them in dual screen setup to compare in real time

@user1306322 the movie is probably going to be bad. Really bad.

But .. that design... that could have turned things in the "So bad it is good" zone.

think of all the memes we lost.

all the parodies that will never be made

the arbriged version that won't be.

in all seriousness though I think it's going to end up being exactly like detective pikachu for me, insofar as I have yet to watch it

11:05 AM

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

I did rewatch the OG movie recently though, and it's okay I guess :p

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

@Shadow9 gone

it's a fun place where you can post a comic about Megaman and discuss sonic and then Megaman comes in and announces that Sonic is gone :p

@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog gone

@user1306322 well, Sera is still better than Elise.... and that alone is a reason to prefer that movie to Sonic 06.....

Q: Why do Counter-Strike players switch weapons so frequently?

11:10 AM

(no idea about Sonic lore or any of the extra character names)

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When I watch pros play, I see them constantly switching from main weapon to knife in almost every situation (i.e running, walking, entry, etc.). In match-making, ESEA, etc. players will also do this. I have seen people die because they were in the middle of the 'switching' animation and thus una...

counter-strike-global-offensive

thank god I stopped playing CS when there was just 1.6 (actually still plays TF2 like madman on the reg)

@user1306322 you remember the Aerith cat-impersonator from the movie you just mentioned?

(a side comment from the devs on one of the TF2 update posts hit me in the depths of my soul that we'd still be playing de_dust if it wasn't for TF2)

That is Sara/Sera based on the translation you got.

and Elise... it is a character from Sonic 06 that everyone prefer to forget.

oh well I remember how it started with "the president" and his daughter(?) with cat ears and then the movie actually begins for real when Sonic goes down into the city :p

I prefer to think of it as a nostalgic atmospheric experience

plot and characters don't really matter

just the art, music and sound effects

@user1306322 oh, trust me, I'll take the movie plot over Sonic 06 one any day.

11:17 AM

I guess I wasn't hurt by that experience, so I can't relate :p

Dec 11 '18 at 9:47, by Derpy

And before you ask who this princess is, she is a character from a game that should never have been made

Dec 11 '18 at 9:47, by Derpy

a game that is so bad even the game is ashamed of itself

Dec 11 '18 at 9:47, by Derpy

so ashamed that it retcons itself out of the timeline in the ending.

@user1306322 you can still watch a let's play video on Twitch/Youtube I guess, but I would suggest less painful uses of your time.

thanks :)

I've been trying to get into some things which others have deemed similarly wasteful, and then I started thinking better of it, and I gotta say it's a real improvement over my past stubborn decision making process :p

Sitting on a cactus, putting your hand in a lit fireplace, washing your hands in ghost pepper powder and then rubbing your eyes....

oh I did have a pepper-all-over-your-body experience before, not recommended

@JourneymanGeek true, not sure why.

@terdon don't think it showed heads flying like the first episode showed.

11:26 AM

@Shadow9 well, no chance of being cancelled

I'd lean towards being out of ifeas

Maybe actors got tired as well...

@JourneymanGeek wait, that is a problem? :P

@BlueSoul its the anime problem D:D

How do you continue a story where the source material hasn't been completed?

you hire screenwriters I guess

FMA did its own take, then FMA:B actually adapted the finished story

djsmiley2k TMW

@Shadow9 it used it prior to that....

So I think in the books, more stuff like this may happen

Jon Snow is his own dad....

not saying anymore, because spoilers etc.

11:41 AM

or you add filler :P

@BlueSoul what is it with people and antrophomorphic cats

why do so many people find the idea so appealing

@Magisch To be fair, I only said I prefer her over Elise.

And this scene from Sonic 06 would be the reason, click at your own risk.

@JourneymanGeek the "filler" problem is actually far less common nowadays than it was during the Dragonball age, you know.

12:05 PM

no, you just get shows like Log Horizon that go on a decennium-long hiatus

oof, it's been so long I'd actually forgotten about Log Horizon

speaking of which, season 3 is announced

:o

indeed: myanimelist.net/anime/41109/Log_Horizon__Entaku_Houkai

Oct '20

might have to rewatch the old stuff first

hmm, we're a few seasons behind on BNHA as well

I ended up dropping that... too Naruto-y for me after a while

And since I'd already dropped Naruto 'cause of the never-ending war...

12:15 PM

fair enough

I read most of Naruto, until at some point I had my fill with the backstabs. Turned out that was like the second to last episode.

Oh, yeah, I dropped the anime but since I'd devoted so much time to it, I thought I'd see the manga through, at least

then you sigh, with relief, because a decade of material is finally over.... and they announce Boruto which is pretty much the same thing

xD

nope!

@JNat has a big advantage on Naruto.

No Sasuke.

I dropped it when Bakugo still had the potential to be the series' Sasuke :P

12:30 PM

Imho it never was that bad. At least, you didn't had to follow a secondary plot that revolved just around him.

but I get your point

12:42 PM

.... time for a little witch hunting.

Radiohead - Burn The Witch

1:04 PM

►

what can I say....

oh, yep, this sums it up.

Rubiksmoose

1:37 PM

@JNat Have you ever watched Hunter x Hunter?

@JNat thanks!

2:09 PM

@Rubiksmoose I haven't, but I've heard good things

@djsmiley2kTMW umm... no? Where did you get it from?

And the ability of Bran to see past events isn't time travel.

:P

Nice kiss though.

Rubiksmoose

2:35 PM

@JNat It's my all-time favorite anime! And if you liked BNHA and Naruto for at least a bit, I'll bet you'll like it as well. I've never watched a shonen anime that was better. There's one arc that is divisive, but it's at the end. Definitely worth checking out if you have the time.

@Shadow9 please, forward that picture to Sonic Team, not me.

@BlueSoul you posted the pic.... so it's on you. ;)

@Shadow9 sorry, if you check I didn't posted the picture.

I linked the picture, with a big disclaimer.

So I can link to any picture too? :D

you can... but while I doubt I could be banned for linking that actual screenshot from a game that even managed somehow to be rated ESRB: E10 ..... I guess that some images you could post could end up with JNat blasting you away :P

2:44 PM

Found it!

in Shadow's Den, Jan 29 '15 at 13:42, by SPArchaeologist

It was posted in response to this. Same as what you posted.... ;)

Just a link, with a warning.

that was.... quite different I would say.... But if you don't trust me we could ask JNat....

hides

@Blue why did you choose JNat as the Executioner? Yaakov can blast people away too, or actually even the dog or the parrot. ;)

@Shadow9 the parrot seems to have migrated to warmer lands for the winter (trad: didn't see her around in the last few days), the dog didn't came to mind but doesn't seem very scary, poor Yaakov isn't scary at all.... naaahhhh

The blue bomber is the most indicated executioner here

Already has a long experience dealing with mad robot masters, mavericks and the such.

Can surely handle a wizard.

Oh, you mention the dog and he appears.... :P

(and furthermore, I fear Yaakov has his very own share of too-much-to-do-too-little-time right now)

(not that that meas JNat hasn't anything to do instead, but he is the one here right now :P)

@Rubiksmoose neat, will look into it :)