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7:00 PM
I seem to recall the literature on note taking is pretty solid in favor of paper too
 
Well, there you also have the very important difference between using your hand to draw a letter and pressing a key.
 
(I would also like to check out any long-term studies that follow up and see if these participants went on to work or have a hobby in a related field or not)
 
@terdon yes it's way more flexible...I know if I'm working on something important I'll always print to review it first... seems to give me fresher eyes
Also I often change rooms or just go outside
 
@Mithical when you remember things from the paper source, do you visualize the page and the text layout on it?
maybe the room and lighting conditions while you were reading it or something else you were doing at the time?
 
No. I tend to remember a broad overview of what information exists and where this information is (what book, for instance).
 
7:05 PM
do you have any guesses on why you retain information from paper better than from displays?
 
I'll remember "there's a 2015-2017 Muse magazine from the first half of the year with a red cover that talks about retaining information from paper VS ebooks", for instance, but not remember the details of the article all that well.
@user1306322 No idea.
 
@user1306322 Interesting question, why do you ask? I certainly remember the physical position of something on a page, yes. But I think I only do so when reading from paper. I hadn't thought of it before. But I can remember that I read something on the top right of the page, for example.
 
Well, paper is harder to search, but usually has more information about what you've been searching for.
 
And I know that since I started reading e-books, the books I read get very jumbled up in my mind. I used to remember author, title, cover etc. Now, you ask me what I'm reading and I need to look it up.
But that's probably cause I don't look at the cover every time I pick up my book.
 
@Sha Chapter 15 or 20 or something
 
7:08 PM
@terdon interesting, distinct or memorable layouts help some people remember the information visually. Could be better for people with ADHD, idk I'm not a psychologist, I'm just a bullshitter engineer :p
 
but also, the availability of being able to just look it up may affect how much of it you remember.
 
I don't keep track, the names come and go
 
@user1306322 Nothing distinct or memorable though. I just often remember a visual image of the thing I read, so I'll recall that it was at a specific position on the page.
Ha!
Which is mentioned in the paper
> Another navigation issue is related to the ways in which the two types of media determine and restrict one’s access to the
texts in their entirety. Evidence suggests that readers often recall where in a text some particular piece of information
appeared (e.g., toward the upper right corner or at the bottom of the page) (Piolat et al., 1997; Rothkopf, 1971; Zechmeister &
McKillip, 1972). We know from empirical and theoretical research that having a good spatial mental representation of the
physical layout of the text supports reading comprehension (Baccino & Pynte, 1994; Cataldo & Oakhill,
woah
 
I've heard people recall specific memories from the times they read and finally understood some concept from a book or a digital source (programming, maths, physics, others) like when they read it their dog really wanted to pee, or it smelled like pancakes, or it was raining pretty hard. People are interesting.
 
7:11 PM
I just think it's neat :p
web page content scales and wraps to fit the window
PDFs are pre-set
 
Ah yes. For some reason, I still remember very clearly that I read a particularly sad passage in one of the Narnia books while sitting under Aphrodite of Milos in the Louvre when I was 8 or 10 years old.
 
but not many people read them these days, you can mostly find answers on web pages
 
@terdon science schmience!
 
@AndrasDeak grrr
 
did anyone else do multiple choice vocabulary questions without actually reading the question?
 
7:13 PM
@Dragonrage what do you mean?
 
@user1306322 just sort of glance at the question and answers and see which one looks right without actually reading it
 
What are you wondering about since nowadays science is dealt as fake news / science?
 
I did that all the time with "change the tense of the verb" in English class, teacher hated me for it
 
@terdon I read a delightful quote from our prime minister (of what he wrote in 2012): ”…the order of faith, religion and creation is diverted towards a godless cosmos by irreligion and the scientific world view…”
 
worked great for me when the answers where straight from a textbook
 
7:14 PM
i always felt like multiple choice quizes were... flawed
 
@AndrasDeak Oh, hey. So he does get things right every now and then!
 
heh
 
Of course, he probably thinks it's a bad thing...
 
Yyyyeah.
 
7:15 PM
like, given a sufficiently sizable quiz, it's pretty easy to get a passing grade without sufficiently knowing the content
 
if i skimmed the chapters beforehand, i didnt actually need to read the questions/answers, i would just match series of symbols i saw together
 
ABBACBABD
 
exactly
 
I think multiple choice quizes are designed to guide every students to at least remember the information from how obvious the answers are in them, kinda of a "last resort" studying method
 
I don't think I ever had a multiple choice test. If I did, they were very, very rare.
 
7:16 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ we always quoted ABBA EDDA ACDC (we have a band called Edda)
 
like, you could just skim titles and hear a few terms from the book, and with that answer most of the questions because you knew which terms were associated to which concepts
 
No, we did sometimes but I can't remember when or what subject. It certainly wasn't common.
 
like the excitement from having "figured out the pattern" or "breaking the test" could help students remember the actual correct answers, and thus finally learn the material they were supposed to have learned by then
 
i placed in a national competition for a subject i had never focused on just by skimming the chapter titles the day before, i feel it was because it was just a massive multi-choice quiz. There were many questions throughout the quiz such that given previous questions you could use the process of elimination to come to the right answer
 
@AndrasDeak Hey, that's cool. I didn't even notice. It was an example how to randomly fill out a multiple choice test. :D
 
7:18 PM
Yes, that's also what I was talking about
 
@user400654 there's also a pretty cool method of cheating on exams - check out the questions of your neighbours and chances are they'll have mutations of your question but with hinting information that allows you to deduce the answer to yours
 
I just remembered about that stuff mentioned at Big Bang Theory, when Sheldon made up a multiple choice to find out who's their real friends.
And blatantly failed of course.
 
my favorite way of cheating that i saw was people finding out that certain scant trons had predetermined right answers. like based on the serial number, you could figure out the pattern of predetermined right answers,
 
@user1306322 A "cool" method to cheat is to look at the work of those around you? Isn't that the most basic, bog standard method there is?
 
normally in state exams they take care to give out variants in a pattern where you'd have to look 3 seats away to see the same variant as yours
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7:49 PM
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Rob
8:09 PM
 
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Maintenance that actually affects chat. That's rare. ;)
 
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Q: Manager will continue work on a project cancelled by the CEO

anonyrodentMy team's project was cancelled directly by the CEO, but my manager has decided that we should keep working on it. In the headcount request spreadsheet for the next quarters, my manager is inflating the amount of time necessary to do the projects we are supposed to be doing, so we can still keep ...

read that as Manager will continue work on a planet cancelled by the CEO
 
When your CEO cancels a whole planet but he hired managers that are so devoted they will continue to work on it.
 
What happens when the project is finished?
> Oh, btw, that project you canceled, it's done
 
9:48 PM
@user1306322 Magrathean managers are the worst.
 
Wait, what did they decide about the Fjords coasts actually?
 
@Mithical Thank you! I was hoping someone would make a joke along those lines :)
 
Rob
10:31 PM
Why did Zaphod go to Magrathea?
 
 
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