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1:03 AM
I hope we'll have a chicken quest this Winter Bash
4 hours later…
5:09 AM
Hello! I have a question: Can someone please edit the sentence in this post to make sense?
It says: Votes reversed by the detection script can be re-cast by the user at a later time,
so long as the user does not again engage in serial voting which causes them to be reversed (yet again).
Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand the *so as long as* part, because it just stops there, then don't say what happens.
5:23 AM
@AnnZen It already makes sense. "So long as" means, in this case, "only if"
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7:55 AM
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog doubt it. Yaakov doesn't seem very fond of chickens.
But I'm pretty sure he did plant Easter Eggs in winter bash, somewhere.
@Pandya watch your steps clicks! ;)
8:10 AM
if you are talking about the hunt by itself, perhaps, but keep in mind I don't even think other users noticed them adding other "joke" urls to the Bash site last year, so it doesn't seem like users look for them in the first place.
If instead you were thinking about my old tradition of posts on Meta.... nope.
@Shadow What happened with the history of the post you edited? Somehow you added the "content dispute" post notice, which was removed by a then-dev.
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog see Den
Though I'm not 100% sure about what I said there, but it make some sense.
Q: Bounty can be started without a reason, while adding a moderator only notice in revisions

Shadow 10 Years WizardI noticed here that a fresh bounty has been started without a notice, and suspected I know how it was done. It was easy enough to reproduce on one of my questions: No reason is displayed, and even worse, the revisions list is showing a moderator only notice, "Content dispute": Can...

8:33 AM
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog ohhhhhh.... yeah, that was it. Nice find! :-)
9:09 AM
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе please?
Last resort ^
Haha my daughter loves those creepy creatures
They're cute
The message they try to send is important, and they're doing decent job. :-)
I never pay too much attention. But I guess their all about being nice to each other
9:31 AM
@Luuklag yup
It's about the good "F" word. Friendship. :)
9:50 AM
@Shadow10YearsWizard 404 error: "Friendship" not found. Did you mean "Flame"?
10:03 AM
in Shadow's Den, Sep 29 '14 at 10:37, by SPArchaeologist
@DroidDev Friendship is Magic
haha nice one
@Luuklag Yep, I should also make a new one.
> I posted something funny on RPG
And I was welcomed.
I posted a pluralisation bug and survived xD
I moderate Meta and survive? :P
So, ....why is it not on the site. I am still roaming review queues with 1k rep....XD
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11:43 AM
oh, nice, didn't remember this one
> A random parrot in a random chat board just pointed out another interesting option: ugly sweaters. I think that could work too - basic idea would be the same: sweaters could be procedural generated based on a random seed (similar to how gravatars are generated). They would still be bought with coins you would get from various task/trigger. The fun part is that we could then implement a "gift an ugly sweater" feature to give out sweaters you own to other users. That would basically be the SE version of the old Christmas tradition of getting ugly sweaters as a present and then trying to get
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе I wonder who would appreciate a sweater with loads of previous owners?
@Luuklag leader board should be reversed, with the top users being the ones who managed to give away all their ugly sweaters.
@Luuklag anyway, the quote comes from this old post of mine here
The same post also contain a reply by animuson.... they were proposing to add Gatcha to hats.
Wasn't a thing last year because recycle, maybe this year they actually used the idea?
12:10 PM
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе nice shirt!
Well, I will not give up on you, @Derpy. I'll keep trying to convince you. ;)
@QueenieGoldstein what do you mean "not on the site"?
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе oh
@Shadow10YearsWizard ^ proof.
Was Tink idea. If the sweaters will be very ugly or even itcy... blame her
12:44 PM
I said ugly sweaters, not itchy ones. All biological cotton, washed with detergents with less than 5% non-ionic surfactants.
@Tinkeringbell What scent?
I'd say lavender, but since these are for christmas... christmas scent :P
@ert What I mean is, it says "only if", but not "then".
Like it says "so only if you stay." instead of something like "so only if you stay, then you can play"
@AnnZen I don't understand you. In your example, it's "you can play, only if you stay"
You can re-cast the votes only if those votes are not part of serial voting (again)
1:00 PM
@Tinkeringbell winterglow tea scent ;)
What even is "Christmas scent"? Pine, dying?
@ert There's a so in the post: You can re-cast the votes so only if those votes are not part of serial voting (again)
Yes, it's a common phrase
... which is the same as regular pine plus a hint of decaying needles?
"You can do A, so long as you do not do B", essentially means, for the duration that you do not do B, you can do A
1:03 PM
So "You can do A, so long as you do not do B" mean the same as "You can do A, just long as you do not do B"?
thnx, bye
@JohnDvorak Pine, cinnamon... I don't know :P The store I used to work sold those little bags of fragrance stuff and scented candles, and one of them was named 'Christmas ... '
I think it smelled mostly like cinnamon.
Found it! Christmas Bliss smells like vanilla, cinnamon, and nutmeg.
1:23 PM
@Tinkeringbell nice. And let me guess, it costs double just because it's labelled "Christmas"? ;)
Same as jeans, stick a name to it, and you can charge double.
And people pay. lol
1:36 PM
Nope, not even. All of them were 4,99 :P
@Tinkeringbell not "Sugar. Spice. And everything nice"?
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе Nope ;)
@Shadow10YearsWizard Unicorned spam
Potpourri is a mixture of dried, naturally fragrant plant materials, used to provide a gentle natural scent, commonly in residential settings. It is often placed in a decorative bowl. The word "potpourri" comes into English from the French word pot-pourri. The French term has two connotations. It is the French name for a Spanish stew with a wide variety of ingredients called "olla podrida", a specialty of the city of Burgos. The word was taken and copied by the French military during the Napoleonic occupation of Burgos (1808–1813). The word pot in French has the same meaning as it does in English...
The t is silent
@Rob nah. Yaakov is the poetic type.
@Rob No, it wasn't Potpourri. One of those things burst open once, and it was more like cork drenched in essential oils.
1:53 PM
Christmas Bliss, what they will name stuff.
Oh, I think the names for those fragants things were nothing compared to some of the names they gave yarn :P
@Shadow10YearsWizard Which equates to his dislike of chickens
@Tinkeringbell or perfume and makeup.
2:19 PM
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 2 days ago, by rene
let's not parade it here. Just flag and move on. disengage.
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@Luuklag please take note of what @Rob linked to here. I think that is important.
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5:04 PM
Something is odd... isn't this SE hat?
So this is sock of some familiar user... but who? And why sock?
Another option is copying the picture of other user, let's try to see...
Reverse image search brings nothing.... any way to use SEDE to search avatars? (probably not, lol)
Wasn't that the name of a mod?
a prior mod
Former Workplace mod
5:20 PM
Wow, so he's back on low fire... guess it's impossible to stay away from SE. ;)
Anyway, I've exploded a bank!
utils.explode(payment, 'bank');
Saves me few lines every time I need to use the bank fields.
(that's not like the PHP explode, it's my own method that "flattens" a nested object into ordinary fields in the parent.)
More proper name would be flatten but it's boring.
even more proper would be to keep the object as is :D
@Shadow10YearsWizard how's that?
@JohnDvorak but then I'll have to build a new object for the query data.
This is the query:
var qs = 'Insert Into PAYMENTS (BankId, BankBranch, BankAccount) Values (@bankId, @bankBranch, @bankAccount)';
And the data object that I get is:
    bank: {
        id: 1,
        branch: 999,
        account: 999999
ah, makes sense then
5:35 PM
So after exploding it, the data object will have the fields I need. :)
@motosubatsu Just thought the same - winter is slowly settling in and suddenly - Snow!!..;) — iLuvLogix 3 hours ago
@Shadow10YearsWizard Good choice to be a black lab with that name, as opposed to the other color choices.
5:54 PM
@Shadow10YearsWizard It's still 60 degrees Fahrenheit and rainy here. Grr...
better than just above freezing though
@JohnDvorak Is it, though? I live in Vermont; it should be -7 with four feet of the white stuff now.
@Shadow10YearsWizard former mod, and that'a a mod hat :D
I started a trend :D
I do like the ability to walk instead of skid-walking
5:57 PM
@JohnDvorak Knobbly-treaded Bogs help there.
6:34 PM
A question:
Is the "X new active questions" label shown on the Active page on SO? Answers/questions get posted seemingly every 15 seconds there, and I haven't seen it once.
@JourneymanGeek I was on a break. And boy did I need that year.
@Snow 2020?
Caching is still a thing, I see.
@Snow Wave!!
No better year to hide under a bed
6:36 PM
@Tinkeringbell backatchya.
Hope the year has treated you relatively well?
@Tinkeringbell Apart from spending most of it sat at my dining room table, yeah..! Thank you.
Glad to hear that :)
Hopefully things are ok with you as well. Good to see the same faces around.
A: Running vs. walking in slippery condition

user222463https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/03/110324103610.htm "Biomechanics researchers Timothy Higham of Clemson University and Andrew Clark of the College of Charleston conclude that moving quickly in a forward, firm-footed stance across a slippery surface is less likely to lead to a fall tha...

6:40 PM
There's been a few ups and downs, but mostly it's the same as yours: Sitting at a desk ;)
@Tinkeringbell Do you still get out and about, or does your desk follow you wherever you go?
@Ollie I do get out and about from time to time, mostly to do some personal shopping that I don't want to do online. Now that it's autumn and the days are short and cold/wet, I bought a treadmill so I can do my exercise from the comfort of home ;)
@Tinkeringbell You want exercise? Sub 6-year-old kids do just as well as a treadmill, in that case ;)
The dogs help me get out and about.
Sorry, fingers are cold ;)
6:43 PM
@Ollie I've never heard of using six year olds as treadmills. I do wonder if that'll get me into any legal trouble.
(I don't like kids. A dog might work, though if not trained well even those annoy the heck out of me).
@Tinkeringbell *looks reprovingly at @Tink*. Not as treadmills! Keep you on your feet.
I like the treadmill. I can listen to podcasts and just walk.
@Tinkeringbell Does it have a laptop holder?
No worrying about traffic, no diving into the bushes at the side of the road just to be able to keep 1,5m of distance between me and others...
@Snow Give me a call. Anything's possible.
6:45 PM
@Snow Hmm. It has a thingy where I can put an e-reader or my phone, but I don't think it'll hold entire laptops.
@Tinkeringbell Really?
I should do that
@Ollie Yes :)
Though I find the e-reader is bad for my posture while walking.
@Tinkeringbell CrossFitting with huge beams and ratchet straps works well. Doesn't cost anything either.
6:46 PM
lay it next to the treadmill with bluetoooth headphones?
I mean if I'm still stuck here. I believe one of the SE folks had a underdesk cycle :D
I took up golf. aka "swearing at immovable small white spheres".
I'm now walking to the train station after work
its faster than waiting for a bus :D
@Snow That sounds fun XD
@JohnDvorak Sure, but at that point I can just as well turn on the computer and use that ;)The Bluetooth will get that far :)
@Tinkeringbell You're lucky then. My Bluetooth is terrible.
6:49 PM
@Ollie you might want to find a dentist
@JourneymanGeek Recommendations?
Well, I know a good vet for that... :D
@JourneymanGeek I'll pass, thanks.
@Tinkeringbell Your jaw must stretch a very long way then.
@Tinkeringbell My experience is that sound quality drops with distance.
Which is why I usually put my phone on the treadmill and then listen to podcasts using Bluetooth headphones ;)
6:53 PM
Through one wall and a few metres of air already drops out
putting your heaphones through a wall would likely damage the headphones. And the wall.
the air would be fine
no, not the headphones. The headphones went around, just the signal went through.
I'll be going now
@Rob unonebox pls
6:57 PM
actually ...
bluetooth was named for harald bluetooth, who probably had a bad tooth :D
@JourneymanGeek No, it's because he had a habit of chewing Biros.
7:34 PM
Seems weird wearing the black hand of "Don't hit my face, don't hit my face!".
1 hour later…
8:55 PM
@Snow Hey you!
Welcome back, Snow.
@user400654 mind your timing! That one doesn't look very nice. :)
Oh, i hadn't clicked show posts yet
9:34 PM
@Catija hey there. Hope you had a good turkey day!
@Snow I'm really glad to see you back. :)
@Spevacus Thanks very much!
Is it possible for staff members to internally expedite bug reports and feature requests that they themselves filed prior to becoming employees?
9:53 PM
@Catija. Thank you. It’s good to be back, and it was worth taking the year out and starting fresh. Last October and November were intense.
i mean, it's possible for people in a position of being able to communicate with other people to communicate with said people their thoughts and priorities
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog eh. Thinking of applying? 😁
Well, a couple of feature requests I'd like to see implemented were filed by Catija before she became an employee, and nothing has happened with them since
10:08 PM
Well that's probably a partial answer
I haven't really made an effort to review my historical bugs or FRs... but some have been fixed/implemented.
@Snow I hope your break has helped! I'm glad to hear that you're glad to come back.
@Snow You left too late or too soon, and came back too soon or too late - long story
A really short version is: Some more people left, some new people joined, there's been an influx of cash, equipment, and fixes.
and a lot of handwaving/talking past each other
10:23 PM
You know you want to do it ...
Oh. Yeah. I read a couple of meta posts on the subject. Hopefully it’s a better place, but I know deep down that a leopard has spots.
10:41 PM
It easy to try to reduce it to The Tortoise and the Scorpion, but I suspect that's not only a CoC violation but far from correct too. --- The most consistent people seem to be the ones who return to tell you that they are leaving.
10:58 PM
@Rob I think the most accurate thing is "Its messy"

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