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3:00 PM

Can I set the CPU on fire by reading a value from HI:LO and then writing it back immediately? :P

@JohnDvorak probably not? My guess is they have a very primitive MUL and DIV implementation and basically they rube goldberged it together

John Dvorak

I want to see the circuit diagram that can cause a register read to be delayed - but also used immediately even before the read actually happens.

Mgetz

@JohnDvorak go look at VHDL, unless you put a read and write enable line on the register anything can happen

John Dvorak

Oh, VHDL. We wrote some back when I was at a university

Journeyman Geek

also... halfway to 100k ;)

John Dvorak

3:17 PM

Currently starting to read: gmplib.org/~tege/divcnst-pldi94.pdf

user302202

3:33 PM

Speaking of the future...

user302202

> I've come to believe that direction #2 is the future of Stack Overflow, the area that both askers and answerers will find most rewarding in years to come. meta.stackoverflow.com/a/374490/9679969

user302202

A pretty good post, that one. I haven't seen a design decision that would support Direction #2 yet.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

I just reloaded the newest questions page, and now I need to wash my eyes

I’m a registered user and I’m still annoyed by this so+called joke. It’s a pain anyway and it’s buggy which does not help. — Rob Moir 28 mins ago

Oh boy there we go again, killjoys

Olivia

@EKons it will, yes.

@EKons No

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

I agree with the question, but making an April prank opt-in goes right against the idea of pranking eye roll

John Dvorak

3:37 PM

I don't like it either

Olivia

The regex (repeated for context: matteorusso\W*(?:dot\W*)?business\W*(?:at\W*)?gmail\W*(?:dot\W*)?com) includes a ? after the dot and at group, which means it's optional

user302202

The previous ones (unicoin, etc) used to be opt-in.

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard honestly - I'm a little annoyed at the people getting grumpy over the AFD joke but...

Olivia

A side effect is that it will catch .dot, but a good thing is that it will also catch <space>(dot)<space> and <space>(at)<space>

EKons

@Olivia hm, looks like I missed the preceding \W*s

Olivia

3:39 PM

Basically, it covers email obfuscation

Journeyman Geek

I can't really think of any productive way to express that

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@AskQuestionWizard Would you please allow me to pour salt into your tea?

user302202

People have feelings. They can express them.

user302202

They don't have to be positive feelings.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

In 140 characters

@JourneymanGeek Arguing about whether a prank has merit doesn't seem to align much with productive-ness thing

Journeyman Geek

3:40 PM

@AskQuestionWizard one can choose not to, if it does no one any good.

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard it does not

hence I shant

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

So it's a self-fulfilling prophecy at that

Olivia

@JourneymanGeek How would you feel if someone replaced the content of every website you visited with a broken, randomly toggling, over-animated undisableable "feature" that you can't remove?

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

You can't remove it?

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard it was broken for a bit

@Olivia for a few days... and it isn't the end of the world.

Olivia

If you're gonna add a that intrusive feature, you better make sure it's possible to disable easily...

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

3:41 PM

OK whatever

Journeyman Geek

@Olivia I've been clicking on that button every page

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

I digress before making a moletain out of a mounthill

meta.stackoverflow.com/a/374490/5210517 @Ask TL;DR;? I dunno if I've read it or not before

Oh, I've read it before

> What are your favorite colors?

Green and yellow purple.

Now we know who to blame for the coloring

user302202

It's notable as possibly the last gasp of moderation-minded approach from the SE side.

Journeyman Geek

My question is who are Meg, Jane and Lisa.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

That sounded too much like dinosaur documentaries. Don't be grim

EKons

3:45 PM

pretty sure the "Guestbook" is fake...

Journeyman Geek

@EKons the names might...

OH

Olivia

@EKons There's a post on it

user302202

11

A: Why does the guestbook chatbox not produce any network activity?

Because all happens client-side and the messages are not comments from real people, but autogenerated with javascript. If you press Control+U in Chrome you will be able to look the code of the website that is rendered by your browser. Go to lines 478-525 and you'll find the following javascript ...

Journeyman Geek

Ok, who are Jane and Lisa. I worked out who Meg is

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@JourneymanGeek Meg is the big shark thingy who seemed to have an aversion against little girls as far as the trailer was concerned

Olivia

3:45 PM

The content is randomly gen-... ninja'd

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Now, I don't have anything against the badass bald British guy trying out new things

John Dvorak

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 32 secs ago, by John Dvorak

The cynic in me says it's because now every question has to load twice. Once in the 90's mode and once the legit version.

Journeyman Geek

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard and IIRC the new PM

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@JourneymanGeek What?

Journeyman Geek

Also two possible Jons

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard product manager

she didn't replace Theresa May

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

3:48 PM

I like that both of us are probably confused right now

Not much else can express the balance of yin and yang so eloquently

The Comic Sans reminds me of my earliest PPT presentations, so kinda nostalgic

John Dvorak

In before the time machine announcement hits double negatives :P

Tinkeringbell

@JohnDvorak Poor Jon. Be nice! He probably didn't even have anything to do with making that atrocity :P

EKons

alright, newest meta post...

John Dvorak

I'm not saying what should happen, just what is inevitably going to :P

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

HA HA HA

I FRIGGING KNEW IT

Tinkeringbell

3:52 PM

meta.stackexchange.com/q/326037/369802 I want this one to happen!

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

See, people just need to cheer up

Before Trump's next drama show, of course

EKons

1 min ago, by EKons

alright, newest meta post...

Tinkeringbell

@EKons Go Go GO newest meta post! 😛

EKons

GO TO THE BOTTOM :D

Tinkeringbell

NOOOOOOOO!

Catija

3:54 PM

@JourneymanGeek Dev and designer on DAG.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@EKons ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽▬▬ι═══════ﺤ

EKons

nice sword over there

@Tinkeringbell hm, has there been a rise of off-topic questions today?

Tinkeringbell

@EKons More of a decline: haven't dealt with a single one yet.

EKons

surprising, given that the banner says "WELCOME TO STACKOVERFLOW"...

or maybe that means some people just thought SE is a playground and didn't bother to ask serious questions...

Tinkeringbell

Well, then the new design had a good side-effect

EKons

4:09 PM

for us yes, for SO... no

user302202

Wisely kept MathOverflow out of this.

EKons

lol yeah they would have just scoffed SE and start their own domain immediately

user302202

I actually don't think MO has enough energy left to leave SE network. The mostly young mathematicians who were its founders grew up and have more things going on nowadays.

John Dvorak

Leaving is always a possibility. Consequences are matter for the future.

quartata

4:37 PM

emergency psa

the guestbook

is not real

it is an illusion

do not be fooled

John Dvorak

4:49 PM

> Give me guest book, make it real or else forget about it

Tinkeringbell

@EKons I jinxed it. Now there were two :P

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

3

Q: Why was my edit rejected even though it complies with the guidelines?

I read some posts about this question, and still it doesn't make sense that my edit suggestion was rejected. Posts that I read: Why was my edit rejected? Why was my suggested edit rejected repeatedly? Why was suggested edit rejected? Why was my suggested edit rejected? Here is my suggested...

What do you know, these posts do happen

Get Answer Wizard

doesn't look like a joke. voted to close as off-topic

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Hmm, more like off-time. Overtime?

Now you know what would be a hilarious April fools joke? Every meta posts starts at -5 by default

John Dvorak

That's actually a very good idea

EKons

5:29 PM

@Tinkeringbell um... what

still a bit low :P

user302202

Weekend

user302202

@JohnDvorak Might happen when it starts hitting people in the middle of their busy work day.

user302202

6:02 PM

> Does anyone have any sense for what the next #StackOverflow is? I don't want to miss that train, but I don't see which one it is yet... Meanwhile I'm thinking about putting more material on other Stack Exchange sites... -- Aaron Hall, 🐍 Professor, NYC, 🇺🇸 at 10:45 AM - 31 Mar 2019

user302202

Meanwhile, Quora doubles the number of languages they support, which is now 17.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@AskQuestionWizard YMMV but collaborative but non-English parts of the internet are absolutely incomparable to the English side so it doesn't seem much of a leap

user302202

RuNet has something of its own... Notably, Russian is missing from those 17.

Tinkeringbell

Do revision histories look kinda broken to other people?

rene

the whole site looks broken ...

2

Tinkeringbell

6:15 PM

Hahahah

Catija

@AskQuestionWizard how do you support half a language?

Tinkeringbell

That's what I see, with a humongous scrollbar on the bottom to scroll right, towards which user did it.

It's a great way of anonymizing stuff, I don't know if that was intended? 😛

user302202

Well, they exactly doubled the number of non-English languages.

rene

@Tinkeringbell due to revision 409, so status-by-design

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

meta.stackexchange.com/questions/326050/… A beginner engineer is a begineer

Tinkeringbell

6:17 PM

@rene Oh, thanks :)

rene

I would call it broken as expected

Tinkeringbell

@rene Fixed it :)

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@rene BAE?

Magisch

@Tinkeringbell hehehehe :D

user302202

There's a proposal to re-create the defunct Operations Research Q&A on SE platform...

user302202

6:29 PM

Apparently the old one (based on QSQA) was "spammed out of existence".

Travis J

This april 1st theme makes my face hurt

Tinkeringbell

@TravisJ Smile more often. That way you can smile about a good joke without hurting your face :D

Travis J

I think it is the rapid pace of facepalm

Smiling doesn't seem to affect that

Tinkeringbell

Aww 😬

I feel it grows on you quite rapidly

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

@Tinkeringbell It's like the least controversial joke any big company has come up with since 2016 but I feel a big portion of complainers would have complained regardless of the joke

So comic sans and purple doesn't seem to be the main issue here

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Q: Network Profile shouldn't be showing comments that were auto-generated and immediately auto-deleted

I closed a question with my Gold Badge a couple of days ago. When I happened to peruse the comment history on my Network Profile just now, I noticed the following comment on that post: Possible duplicate of Why is Gellert Grindelwald considered as second darkest wizard when he terrorised th...

bug network-profile dupehammer automatic-comments

O.o

Tinkeringbell

6:37 PM

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard I understand that for a substantial amount of people the joke was ruined when they couldn't turn it off in any satisfying way.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

Why would it show deleted comments in the first place?

@Tinkeringbell Mhm that is more understandable but still kinda an after-the-fact thing

rene

@Tinkeringbell not being able to turn it off was the joke. The design stays ...

Travis J

The complainers, how quaint. Mostly the issue is that the page causes a trigger for migraines.

user302202

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard Also one of the least original. If I wanted Geocities look, I'd use wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer or "90s web" Chrome extension or whatever

user302202

Having it pop up without me asking, when I'm showing Math.SE answer to someone, is something else.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

6:40 PM

@TravisJ Actually, the visitors of this chat that do dislike the joke just dislike the joke in a legit way but you do not represent the majority of annoyed people

It's perfectly OK to not like a joke. Or anything else. Even ice cream

Travis J

So my disliking of it is illegitimate?

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

OK, it's not OK to not like ice cream

@TravisJ No I meant the other way around, I'm running out of English

Travis J

Whatever. Have a good one.

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

You dislike the joke, but the majority dislike SO making a joke hence they would have complained anyway

That's what I was saying. shrug

Crap. Not fond of how that conversation went or the fact that it was my fault. What's the normal internet thing to do in situations like these?

Deep inhale? Throwing everything in a paper bag and throwing it at my alter ego? Maybe ask something on IPS

Alex

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard It shouldn't. But that might not be because it doesn't inherently show them, but because the deletion is instantaneous (i.e. there is no noticeable unit of time that it should display).

M.A.R. The Chemical Wizard

7:13 PM

Hey @rene today I read an answer that said Zondag met Lubach isn't funny

rene

@M.A.R.TheChemicalWizard WUT! Fake news!

user302202

7:29 PM

It's been more than a year since the last non-blockchain SE site launched...

user302202

384

Quantum Computing – quantumcomputing.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for engineers, scientists, programmers, and computing professionals interested in quantum computing.

Currently in public beta.

user302202

and that one was accelerated because of sponsorship

user302202

8:04 PM

Tempted to stop flagging spam just to avoid dealing with AFD on every site. No preference should ever be per site and per device only

John Dvorak

in Codenames on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 55 secs ago, by Mithrandir

...pretty sure April Fools just crashed my computer

@AskQuestionWizard use FIRE or one of those AFP2019 killers

Olivia

8:16 PM

yay, more uncovered issues xd

John Dvorak

I just assumed the garden variety CPU hog thingie

Olivia

the entire thing is a CPU hog

rene

still cheaper then a miner

user302202

> Dear Stack Exchange: I know you think you're being cute for April 1st, but that's an accessibility shitshow, knock it off. -- Dr Erin Ryan at 3:45 PM - 31 Mar 2019

Olivia

Finally >.>