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1:00 PM
Nespresso Einstein?
:D
 
@Magisch Oh OK, my mind immediately changed that to "Guts" and I was thinking PP is related to gastronomic or intestinal problems
Thankfully Pokemons are not gross. Maybe
 
Gust is a flying type attack that is usually actualized by a feathered pokemon creating a gust of wind (sometimes containing feathers) depending on the version of pokemon and the animation
 
Oh I call that laser feathers
 
@Magisch I'm not sure where the Einstein came from, but as that co-worker always makes me go 'who else' I named him Nespresso :P
 
Ha I like this one
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Q: Everyone is off line on SO

Julian TiemannI asked this question which did not get any answers in a while. I need answers asap How can I get answers fast and why is noone online? or am I just fake news it is not the same as the other one

I need to check my meta.SE clan to see how many people are online
Maybe we can do raid someone's castle
@Tinkeringbell Well the Einstein label in my creation. You said he's a great thinker and spends most of the time alone. Well, only the second part.
 
1:06 PM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Was about to close that one as site-specific, but decided to be a bit "nicer" and close as dupe instead
 
Oh, yeah, that was it. He was used to working alone and not so good about working in a team
 
The interesting thing is, that question was posted only 30 minutes after the question it's referring to. How impatient.
@Tinkeringbell Is this situation applicable here?
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog but . . . but . . . the exam ends in 20
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ If their teacher doesn't take steps to make sure students aren't accessing the Internet during their exam, I'll be astonished.
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog Not really.
 
1:10 PM
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog Maybe the teacher is on a wheelchair and can't take steps
Rimshot
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Then they can get a TA
 
Also you're underestimating the ingenuity of students when it comes to slacking off
 
One of my professors allowed students to use computers during an exam, which was open-resource. They ran a script that kept scouring the web for code similar to expected answers to the questions, and ratted out people who asked on SO during exams.
> Rick was a very talented developer. He could solve complex business logic problems and create sophisticated architectures to support his lofty designs. But he could not solve the problem of how to work effectively on a team.
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ that might get me another reversal badge
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer (171): What is a payment ID, and why is it used? by Abdoune hani on monero.SE
 
1:17 PM
@JourneymanGeek Huh, checked the badge FAQ and it seems like closed questions aren't excluded. But even if they were, you could just reopen the question, wait for the badge script to run, then re-close it.
@Tinkeringbell Does that paragraph (beginning with "Rick") apply though? 'Cause if so it might be worth reevaluating his role.
 
I'm not in a position to reevaluate his role. And I'm no snitch either.
He's just not great at working in a team, doesn't mean he needs to fired right away
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog naw
 
@Tinkeringbell Didn't say he needs to be removed; just that your team needs to have a discussion with him
 
I have like 12...
 
@JourneymanGeek Doesn't matter; they aren't excluded anyway.
 
1:21 PM
Type: spider - poor team attitude, mostly nocturnal with poor eyesight, but an excellent web designer and an invaluable companion as long as you don't invade his personal space?
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog also needs 9 more upvotes which is unlikely. And reopening to get a badge just isn't cricket
 
Rob
Without clicking on "Everyone is offline ..." it seems rather self-evident: 20+ people are not offline, thus "everyone" is not offline; there's simply a limit on the time spent with them, they ought to have asked about how that works instead.
 
@Rob also less popular tag, code dump...
 
@Rob they did specify "on SO" though, and the votes came from MSO.
No contradiction there.
s/(?<=MS)O/E/
 
I was a very similar person like that in high school. I was the lead coder for an autonomous robotics competition. In the end, my code ended up very convoluted because it was the result of fixes applied at each test run, and it wasn't very well understood by my teammates.
 
Rob
1:24 PM
Sometimes people come to Meta, or here, to vent or question their suspension.
 
questioning should probably be allowed if they keep their civility
 
Absolutely
 
venting toxic fumes is an EPA violation though.
 
Rob
Yesterday there was someone whom seemed quite civil about their week suspension. As soon as my avatar appeared in the lineup they were asking if I was the mod where they were suspended.
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog Had to follow a course some time ago. Never saw the professor once - 90% of the lessons where done by his assistant, the rest... videoconference.
 
1:28 PM
Well if you have a valid problem that you're willing to bring up assuming reasonably good intentions... Sure
 
Rob
Others and myself went on to speculate, based on what little we could see and what they told us, about the reasoning behind their suspension. So being polite doesn't mean you are not Sealioning.
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog At the exam, he came just to give us the exam papers, then left leaving us with the assistant .
some days later, we went to the campus board to see the exam results.
Many of us got a L.I.T. as the result.
 
@Rob .... Did they confuse you with other Rob, or did you get shanghaied into being a mod?
 
Rob
Turns out their mind-reading twin had used their computer without permission, thus they ought to have the suspension lifted.
 
Robception: They were Robbed
 
1:31 PM
Oh that
 
Rob
No, I don't impersonate the other Robs.
 
So, in a F instances
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog when asked what L.I.T. meant... the teacher said "Lost In Transit". He had the exams papers sent to him via snail mail. Some were lost. Those had to take the exam again thanks to HIS "error".
 
So, in a few instances- you can get a suspension reviewed with contact us
 
Rob
Robbery is more common than you think.
 
1:33 PM
You do probably need a great story though
 
to rob or not to rob, that is not rob's question about the other rob
 
Better than psychic twins
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Messaging number in answer (88): Schematics vs PCB designs by Nyakare on electronics.SE
 
My grandma's dog apparently hunted and brought back a coconut
 
'hunted'.
 
1:36 PM
I do wonder about domestic dogs sometimes
 
I'm sure his lupine ancestors would be proud. Or confused to what a coconut was
 
They've gone from fearsome hunter-companions employed for protection and assistance to basically just companions for companionship
 
This is a German Shepherd
He is a big sweetie
 
like a small terrier is probably getting cuddles every day and walked just for their benefit, not a real need to patrol the neighbourhood with your fearsome dog
 
Rob
The person should have said it was their coconut hunting dog.
 
1:38 PM
@Magisch actually terriers are pretty fearsome.
 
@Magisch when lucky. Otherwise, living doll toys to play with
please, notice the "Why are you doing this to me" eyes.
 
Corgis are amazingly badass
 
@JourneymanGeek When I see a terrier, my first instinct is to cuddle it
Even angry barking terriers are more cute then angry
 
@Magisch they're proper hunting dogs. Basically went into burrows to hunt things... Including Badgers
 
1:59 PM
I just want to woof for no reason
 
a small dog can also be called a puts on sunglasses subwoofer yeeeeeaah
 
Totally made that joke
 
How many got rejected? :thinking:
 
"Dear" Microsoft.
That's Angular logo.
The library is for AngularJS.
I know you may think this is the same... but no.
 
user302202
2:17 PM
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Q: I think I know why

SinatrAnd YOU know it! That feeling! That amazing feeling of being a part of community, belonging to that society, proud member of that group, dedicated helper and all-in-all right person ... when you are downvoting! You read the question and it has -5 score already!.. And you click downvote and are ...

 
user302202
Great title
 
I think I know why I downvoted that meta post...
 
user302202
I think I know why you did last summer
 
@SonictheIntrovertedHedgehog I'm just now reading your comment; somehow I didn't get notified via email. I do have some subroutines to make this possible, but it's probably just easier to edit the post manually.
 
@Glorfindel this is somewhat funny because it reads as if you were an AI with subroutines
which of course fits the narrative :p
 
2:24 PM
@Mrs.Robinson forgets golden rule about meta discussion.
 
@Magisch D'Arvit @Art, your creation will yet doom us all
 
> if there is ground to use "reductio ad ridiculum" against a post, it will be done
 
 
@Feeds Use Markdown
 
@Magisch another Turing test attempt foiled
 
2:41 PM
I am impressed. I go for 30 minutes and two downvote rants appear on meta.SO
Not to mention neither is aiming for a constructive discussion. Those are the worst rants
I'm talking quality stuff here. And from a guy that has more rep than my top two sites combined.
 
Let's run an experiment: Go for 30 years and we'll see what happens in the meantime.
 
I bet he gets another kidney
 
Or 10
@Alex cats and dogs living together.... Mass hysteria....
 
@JourneymanGeek Sounds like fun!
 
A new kidney every three years? He's gotten only one extra one in the past twenty or so, so either another one or two in the next thirty years
 
2:47 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't understand where all these additional kidneys are coming from?
 
@Alex So, you get yourself some kidney beans... then there's this whole ritual of sowing them under a full moon and growing them, adding potions and the blood of virgins and stuff... and then after a year or twenty... :P
 
His kidneys don't work, so he had to get another one, so now he has technically three
 
@Tinkeringbell Cool... does this ritual work for anything else besides kidneys?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer (86): Blogspot website not opening on Browser by user922636 on askubuntu.com
 
@Mithrandir Which explains how he'd get another 10...
 
2:50 PM
@Alex Hmmm. Perhaps, but adapting rituals is always a bit fickle. Before you know you've awoken something else :P
 
CTHULHU FTAGHN
 
I'm going to need a large budget and an R&D department :P
 
@Alex @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ what are the chances of you getting more kidneys?
 
@Tinkeringbell And helpful coworkers?
Or at least bearable coworkers?
 
@Alex A few unhelpful ones are okay too, we need sacrifices :P
 
2:51 PM
I volunteer to be the unhelpful one.
Wait... I think I misunderstood that. I unvolunteer.
 
Too bad. You've already entered this contract now!!! Muhahaha
 
Do you need a knife?
 
A silver dagger :D
And I need an astronomer on the team, as I don't know enough about stars and stuff.
 
B-blood of the enemy... forcibly taken... you will... resurrect your foe.
 
I need a lab, preferably something with underground facilities and a church nearby
 
2:54 PM
You've got HDE...
 
Did someone unvolunteer to not to be the unhelpful one?
 
True! :D.
 
@Tinkeringbell Take your pick.
 
Do I need a facade? Some kind of company to make things look legal?
 
Meh. You're a parrot, who cares about legality?
 
2:55 PM
@Bookends No. I unvolunteered to be the unhelpful one.
 
@Alex Oooh! This person looks dresses appropriately for the job! :P
 
That said, I think I need to catch up the rest of the fun downvoted Friday meta posts...
 
@Mithrandir I don't want to end up in parrot jail ...
 
@Tinkeringbell Especially this part: ʎzɐɹɔ ʎןʇɥƃıןs
 
Parrots have jails?
 
2:57 PM
@Mithrandir Apparently? Or madhouses, your pick :P
 
@Mithrandir google.com/…
 
Welp.
 
THOSE ARE GREEN!
 
subtly shuffles out of the Tavern
 
ok time to stop the demonic zealots ritual with something even more fearsome
have fun.
 
2:59 PM
@Tinkeringbell Don't the green ones deserve to be in jail?
 
@Mithrandir You can't shuffle out of a tavern.
 
runs out of the Tavern because I'm out of time
 
@Mithrandir Yeah, kinda. You're right ;)
@Derpy You show no understanding of proper demonic zealous rituals. That's an addition to it, not something to stop it!
 
Wow. For some reason I thought that said "democratic zealots rituals".
 
3:26 PM
@Alex one does not Morris dance into Mordor
 
@JourneymanGeek Why not?
 
Cause it's silly
 
@Mithrandir Legends of transplant manage to keep their kidneys for up to 30 years, so 1 or 2 more in the span of a lifetime
Really, it could stop working this very moment
But lifestyle can tinker with the probabilities, and that's what I should be doing
 
3:49 PM
Hmm... the feel of pressing the "lost soul" links multiple times~
I just realized that some of the meta posts were missing on SE Filtered Question... are there any criteria for the question to be listed on there?
I think the most obvious one is, it doesn't list any closed questions :(
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Remote desktop defeating inactivity timeout by eromrab on superuser.com
 
4:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer (80): Gerando Pagina HTML por PHP a partir da base de dados by Augusto Pantaleão on pt.stackoverflow.com
 
4:43 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive title detected (53): Am I butthurt or do I reign in my players? by Julian on rpg.SE
 
user302202
5:00 PM
@Feeds That's nothing compared to WYSIHYD HTML+CSS generating editors. :(
 
user302202
A couple of keystrokes => tons of markup
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer (60): Lithium charge module on NiMh batteries by Andy goode on electronics.SE
 
 
1 hour later…
7:16 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Body starts with title and ends in url (98): Playing computer games makes kids smarter? by friv on academia.SE
 
7:56 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer (80): elementary OS installer crashed at choosing partition screen by Gabriel Lefundes on elementaryos.SE
 
user302202
Sometimes I think it would be nice to have mandatory retirement age.
 
user302202
In real life (with occupation-based exceptions), and for Stack Exchange in particular
 
user302202
Like, if your account is 3 years old or more, you can no longer log in.
 
user302202
If you still want to participate, make a new one.
 
y
 
user302202
7:58 PM
Think how different Meta discussions would be.
 
user302202
Instead of being dominated by the same people since 2010.
 
why wouldn't it be?
i mean, i'm sure such a change would drive a number of people away, but you'd still have long term users around.
 
user302202
At least they would not have the same privileges, unless they actually participate.
 
right... but... what privileges do long term users get that give them "domination" over other users?
i mean, yeah, i can cast downvotes, but so can anyone else with 125 rep
there would be less gold badge dupe closing, but... a dupes a dupe, one person closing it just makes the process faster, not having 1 vote dupe closure won't necessarily result in less dupe closure
 
user302202
I recall the chart with SO answers tracked by account creation.
 
user302202
8:10 PM
And compare it with the same for MetaSO.
 
user302202
 
user302202
Accounts created in 2011 or earlier post > half of all MetaSO answers, but a relatively tiny amount of SO answers.
 
user302202
What if the site was "governed" by the same people who are using it....
 
Are you saying users who have been here 10 years aren't using it?
 
user302202
The chart I linked says they mostly don't.
 
user302202
8:13 PM
Or, more accurately, their activity is a small portion of site's activity.
 
that they're somehow out of touch with how the network works now compared to years ago?
I mean, that just means they're contributing less answers.
 
user302202
Well it's a Q&A site. If a group does not answer much (and they don't ask much either), then they don't do much.
 
If you instead looked at moderation, votes cast, reviews/edits, You'll also see a large amount of activity from new users, but the drop off toward older still active users will be far less dramatic. What happens is as users participate here over a longer period of time, you begin to realize that most of the questions that are being asked have already been answered, and we instead reach for the tools to deal with that.
 
user302202
Hence, a divide between those who use and those who moderate.
 
dupe closure, downvoting for poor reasearch, etc
imagine an SO with no moderation
ouitside of comments and downvotes, (keeping in mind that the majority of new users simply don't use downvotes)
 
@Mrs.Robinson Agree.
I think that usage privileges should be tied to a sliding window of reputation.
And if you really like downvotes, you will create a FR for it :P
 
i mean... again i don't think that'd really change anything, unless said window was absurdly small. Even at a year i'd still retain the ability to downvote as much as i want
Oh, that's just YTD
lol
so month.
 
lol yeah, well its not meant to be exclusionary
 
who are we excludiing though?
my point is, the "older" members that are still around tend to have passive rep gain
 
You wouldn't be able to vote to delete unless the window was large enough. I think that a two year window would be fair.
 
user302202
8:25 PM
Which is why I proposed mandatory retirement. You have done so much, thank you thank you thank you. Your account will be enshrined in our archive forever.
 
Yeah, disagree with that though.
 
in the past two months I've earned 546 rep without a single answer. A sliding window won't do much
 
@KevinB - Have you earned 20k rep in the past 2 years?
 
I'm probably 2-3k short
eyeballing the linegraph
 
I mean, maintaining 10k a year does take a little bit of work
 
8:28 PM
so i post a crappy jquery answer or two
 
In general I try to average a base of 1k a month, although I am a little short lately.
LOL
 
as it is people don't downvote posts that aren't going to be useful to future users. If they are "correct", they by default get upvotes regardless of whether it's the 200th dupe
 
Meh, don't feel like debating that issue
For the 200th time :P
 
;)
I don't think i really use my deletion privileges that often
don't use them at all on meta.so
 
That is because meta gets less traffic, so you see downvoted closed questions more often.
 
8:32 PM
profile says i have 487 total delete votes
 
On main usually the downvoted closed questions tend to disappear quickly. It also takes a lot longer to close on main. So you are probably casting a downvote and close vote instead of seeing the option to delete.
 
o/
 
my issue with delete votes is 1: they often feel pointless, they're usually on posts that will be deleted by roomba and 2: the posts i'd like to use them on often aren't closed, and therefore i can't cast said delete vote anyway
 
beams
 
8:34 PM
Flip side here is... Much of the difficulty for new participants on both SO and MSO is knowing what to do, not lacking the privilege to do it.
 
Totally.
 
Spinning up a new account with well-received answers ain't reflective of what it takes to join the site and do well
 
if anyone knows...: in what way is UCS1 related to latin-1?
 
Is this related to that user name display bug?
 
(if UCS1 is a thing outside of my little domain...)
 
user302202
8:37 PM
Ah, Roomba... an unclear, likely off-topic post, no votes no answers. Comment 1: asks for a clarification, in vain. Comment 2: suggests to ask at another site. Roomba: two comments, let's keep this forever.
 
roomba doesn't look at comments does it?
 
It does
 
...
 
For 0 scored posts I think
 
Over 800K questions on so retained by comments
 
8:39 PM
i actually cast a good number of delete votes last year, more than i expected, and the majority of them did end up deleted
 
Is there really an issue with a post that sits for 2 years and get s 50 views though? Are those posts the ones which are somehow creating risk for the site?
I don't think they do anything except add to the database filesize.
 
@Shog9 What does that chart do if you exclude yourself? :P
 
most of these were bad answers
incorrect, spam, or general bad ideas
 
@Catija Hide away in shame
 
late answers
copycats
 
8:42 PM
Copycat answers annoy me
 
I just don't see what problem having more longer-term users around poses. Obviously if one is problematic and being unwelcoming they need to be dealt with, but that's the same of any user, not just older ones.
the privileges we gain aren't powerful enough to make any significant change on our own at the scale of SO
 
@AaronHall I only know of UCS-2 which seems to be used by SqlServer as an encoding but that is all I can offer.
 
@KevinB For me the difference is perspective. So many users have switched away from focusing on creating content and towards maintaining content. There is nothing wrong with maintaining content.
However, the outlook towards going forward from the perspective of maintenance often fails to focus on creation. As a result, there is more of a spiral towards how to maintain versus how to create. You can see this overwhelmingly in the features that were requested over time. At least now, after a decade, we are finally getting a feature which will influence content creation (the wizard).
 
that's definitely valid. The more long term users that stick around, the more that will be available to moderate that aren't necessarily creating new answers.
what really bothers me is the number of questions we're getting where people just don't seem to be doing the most basic of research. Like, "What does the % symbol do at the end of a string in SQL?"
 
Yes, honestly... wtf
I can only attribute that to the rate of failure in the field I guess.
 
8:54 PM
said question has 4 answers, all from sub-100 users. I don't blame those users for answering, they're new here and may not know that that has probably been answered here before
not to mention, noone's required to moderate the site
 
When I was going to school for my bachelors, we had a final keystone class where we had to create a piece of software for a non profit in order to graduate. The class started with 50 people, 4 per group, roughly 12 groups. In the end of the class, only 3 presented. And that was from a group of people who only had just that class to graduate!
Almost every CompSci class I took started full and ended with a dozen or so.
 
yeah, mine too. we had a group of 30 or so people the first year, by the end of the second, there were 4 of us, and only i made it out
 
Yeah, well, you probably didn't need to get help for the % symbol in SQL :P
 
funny you say that...
we had one sql class
and we never made it out of database normalization
 
jeez
 
8:57 PM
an entire semester, doing nothing but database normalization
this was 10 years ago
 
Did you guys go all the way to like, theoretical 7nf or something?
 
err, 12
i don't recall
i spent most of that class playing wow
 
lol yeah, wow stole some time from me when I was younger
 
i never did finish that degree either
 
I don't really remember any of the SQL stuff I learned because Linq2SQL has spoiled me so badly
 
8:59 PM
i had two classes left, speech, and macro computer applications
but... i got the job i wanted, and decided it wasn't worth taking those two classes
 
hopefully it was because you started a lucrative career
 
still in the same job, happy, etc
 
Nice
Recently I decided to try a startup in order to retire early because working is fine 'n all, but not working is way better. Now I am finding out that in order to retire half way through life you have to work two lifetimes first.
And on that note, I have to go do taxes :D =/
 
yeah... i still need to do that
speech was a real let down... i took it, did really well through most of the class i thought, but then when it came time to present the final speech, there was only enough time for like 25% of the class to present... and i wasn't part of that 25%
i hate speaking as it is, and didn't want to go through it again
 
Rob
9:29 PM
@Shog9 What number would it be if comments 3 years old with no upvotes were excluded. I understand that comments are expected to be transitory, there must come a point where they shouldn't be considered to retain a low scoring question where the OP hasn't been online for years. --- Adjust the variables to find a good line to draw in the sand. --- We could make a rule that 10K's are welcome to undelete seemingly great
questions that are deleted by the Community User on February 28th of each year - if it seems that they serve a purpose.
 
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Q: How lenient are we over the contents of the user profile section?

DebanjanBAll of a sudden I happened to stumble at this user profile where the content reads as: Got Sh1tOverflow exception It seems all the public communities are updated simultaneously with this content and is present with-in: stackoverflow.com askubuntu.com sqa.stackexchange.com superuser.com co...

That is . . . actually not all that entertaining
I was expecting more creative, clearer insults
 
right?
 
Like that drago or whatever guy the other day
 
omg a censored curseword
 
That WAS entertaining
 
9:36 PM
you can find much worse searching through chat history
 
Eek don't search Den
 
-4
Q: How to delete my account NOW

Julian TiemannI want to delete my account forr good and I decided to go to the silly profile deletion page and it says that it was scheduled. I dont what delete in 24 howrs i want it deleted NOW

 
Ah, users. Never change.
 
> -4 How to delete my account NOW 5 mins ago
-11 Was my comment permadeleted? [duplicate] 19 hours ago
-27 Everyone is off line on SO [duplicate] 20 hours ago
1 Google login broken! Jan 31
Well that took an awkward turn.
 
@Asuna Is that comment really necessary?
 
9:43 PM
Yeah it's more like that injury swearing thing
Some programmer insight here could be helpful
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Q: I find closed questions more useful than regular questions - is there a place for them on stack exchange?

Igneous01From personal experience, I get more value out of SO when reading questions that are broad and opinionated than I do ones that meet the criteria for SO. It's difficult to not find SO questions like the ones below when I'm looking for opinions or advice, and I personally am grateful that these q...

 
Because I might not know what I'm talking about
 
I mean... it's a matter of opinion.
I find other people's opinions on programming related topics useless
but other people seek them out
 
I was looking through , which feels like a bloody salad TBH, and I came across this
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Q: Punishment for people trying to learn SO etiquette

asteriI understand why this question was marked as a duplicate, but the huge torrent of downvotes seems completely unwarranted. I also understand the general atmosphere of Stack Overflow isn't really new-user friendly, especially where it comes to the touchy topic of performing research prior to asking...

At first I was about to upvote, until it started showing signs of an empty moral panic
It's really 50 percent panic 50 percent legitimate concern
And to be fair, I'm hard pressed trying to recall an example of a 'torrent' of downvotes on a new user's post on meta that didn't have the wrong tone
 
yeah, i mean... i hate that down votes are so easily perceived as negative. i mean, it's in the name, how else could that be handled. hiding them would make them less useful as a signal, not allowing them... might result in more question closure as people reach for a stick? i dunno.
more often than not my downvotes are countered with upvotes because butterflies
 

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