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Just trying to snuff out spam in StackOverflow!
stackoverflow.com/questions/26584948/… clearly looks suspicious. He is attempting to give out a key for free
 
 
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4:19 AM
@rene @Shadow If you could please add meta.stackexchange.com/questions/336024/… to the duplicate list of meta.stackexchange.com/questions/340868/…; see my comment on the dupe for why, the question I linked here is the one the answer linked there is answering
(Speaking of which, I've way exceeded the required score for the gold badge, but am way behind on required number of answers - not even enough for a silver badge)
 
 
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Rob
6:29 AM
Probably due to CW work. Silver: You must have a total score of 400 in at least 80 non-community wiki answers to achieve this badge.
 
6:55 AM
@SonictheReinstateMonica-hog and done
 
7:07 AM
morning
 
JAD
hai
 
@JAD speedy recovery to your snek. I saw the post but didn't really have time to respond this weekend
 
JAD
no worries. She seems to be doing a bit better already, but for now she has mostly been royally pissed off due to the doctor's visit
 
7:22 AM
that tends to happen
 
JAD
yep
 
@JAD How does that manifest?
 
JAD
when we got home and I put her back in her tank, she was pacing it like a madman. Later she would take a defensive posture whenever I moved
 
did you get bit?
 
JAD
nah, I didn't bother her after that
 
7:25 AM
here's hoping she'll get better soon
 
JAD
maybe scared is a better word than pissed off
 
on a related note I'm convinced the office dog is a reincarnated saint
I've never once seen him bark or be agressive at anything
 
JAD
that was right after we came home
 
that's a luxurious tank
 
JAD
8:06 AM
It's not bad, but she'll probably grow out of it eventually
 
seems like you really like your snake a lot, considering the accomodations and care :D
 
JAD
I'd hope it's what any keeper would do :)
 
I know someone who dedicated most of a room to a pair of lizards
 
JAD
I'd hate to find out what that does to the resale value of your house though
 
there's a youtuber who dedicated a whole room of their house as a makeshift enclosure for their rescue miniature alligator
and some snapping turtles
That probably needs deep renovations when they sell
 
JAD
8:20 AM
I think moisture and smells are the biggest danger. Snor's tank is a second hand tank that I bought of someone that kept bearded dragons in them. The smell of piss was firmly stuck into it. I completely remade the interior to get rid of it
 
bearded dragons and lizards and snakes are so cool but I could never keep them
they are a lot of work and commitment. I think I'd be at capacity with a housecat or dog
 
JAD
tbh, snakes are much lower maintenance than cats or especially dogs
you don't need to walk a snake. enough said
 
you do need to keep a specific temperature / moisture / substrate and all that in the enclosure though. And keep track of shedding and feeding cycles
a well behaved housecat needs emptying of the litter box and some food every day, and will not care about what temperature your house is as long as it's livable, and will sleep and stay wherever you let it
 
JAD
but that's what thermostats are for
pretty much, I could leave for a week's vacation without a problem for the snakes, just make sure their lights work and waterbowl is full.
 
8:45 AM
Snakes can survive without eating a whole week?
Or do they also have mice supply?
 
iirc some of the bigger snakes are supposed to be fed every 2 or 3 weeks
or even only once a month
 
JAD
@ShadowTheBurningWizard What Magisch said. I feed mine once every two weeks
and one of them will pretty often refuse to eat. They can easily survive half a year or longer without food.
 
wow didn't know
 
JAD
(if they're properly fed before that)
 
Can be useful.
 
8:49 AM
I mean most (all?) snakes are opportunistic predators. And they eat meals very large in relation to their body size and weight. If you tried to feed a snake an appropriate meal every day they surely wouldn't eat it. They need a while to digest. They're adapted to the "slither around and wait for something that you can eat to pass by" lifestyle
 
JAD
@Magisch well, since they are opportunistic, it also means they take any chance they get. So they might accept daily food for a short while.
 
wouldn't they regurgitate that quickly though
 
JAD
maybe, or they might rupture their intestines
it'd be a sad affair, that's for sure
 
I heard that some snake breeders feed every week to make them grow quicker, but it supposedly shortens their lifespan by more then half
so that's pretty cruel imo
 
JAD
Breeders, but many keepers too. People like their snakes big
 
9:48 AM
:/
 
10:09 AM
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12:35 PM
@JAD I lived near Coffs Harbour, in northern NSW, Australia for several years (I'm back in Sydney now). Here's a lovely coastal carpet python who decide to estivate in our north-facing rock wall one winter:
 
annnnnnnd i'm back, that was not fun :<
 
snaaaaaaaaaaaaake
 
Sorry about the Photobucket link. :(
 
JAD
Awesome. Australia is still on my list of places to go to see snakes. So many species that are so hard to get over here
 
12:40 PM
@PM2Ring all pythons are non venomous right?
 
JAD
yep
 
in that case that is cute and not so much "wondering if deadly"
:D
 
The pythons are quite popular with the banana farmers in Coffs, since they're pretty good at controlling rodents in the banana storage sheds.
 
well constrictor snakes usually aren't aggressive towards humans either
 
JAD
At very least they aren't likely to chase
 
12:41 PM
or at least, that's what I heard.
 
We do have a few venemous snakes, though. I saw a juvenile King Brown in our yard once, which was a little bit scary.
 
I'd probably keep my distance from a wild constrictor, but wouldn't be particularly scared or on edge
 
JAD
@Magisch there's assholes in any group :P
 
if it was an actual venomous species I want solid glass or a couple hundred yards between us
 
I tried to get a better photo of that carpet python, but it hid in the rock wall if I got closer than about 3 metres.
 
12:44 PM
@JAD yeah but even something like a green tree python will at most bite you and try to constrict your hand. Not pleasant, but nowhere near deadly or even seriously injuring. The "event horizon of hurt" is a lot smaller when near a nonvenomous snake
 
In most parts of the world, the most dangerous species is generally homo sapiens.
 
idk maybe I just never developed a fear of snake because we do not have any dangerous ones in germany
 
seeing a snake here is a rare and cool find, and they are mostly very scared of you and leg it instantly, like a small lizard. There isn't really anything agressive here
 
In Australia, a lot of people in the big cities are overly paranoid about snakes, and they're very unlikely to encounter a snake in the city. :) Kids in the rural districts learn about them in primary school, so they know which ones are venomous. Still, if you're walking through the bush, you don't want to startle any snake, even a constrictor. But generally, they'll feel your vibrations long before you see them.
 
12:52 PM
I've seen snakes out in the woods maybe a total of 3 times in my life
each time, the snake was already moving away hastily when I saw it. It seems like the wild snakes have no interest in befriending me
or attacking me, for that matter
 
Snakes are usually more scared of you than you of them
 
@terdon I would call France, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium (and Luxembourg) Western Europe. Austria probably belongs with Germany culturally, but both west and north is a bit of a stretch geographically. North Europe in my (dutch) mind is more like Scandinavia. — JAD 27 mins ago
@JAD (thought I'd move it here instead of cluttering the comments) Fair enough, I just think of these divisions as being more socioeconomical than geographic. But there's nothing surprising in this division, it's certainly common at least in the, ehm, south ;)
 
JAD
@terdon-stopharmingMonica I don't think the grouping is necessarily bad, just the name North surprised me
@Magisch I've only ever seen snakes in the wild during vacations in France and Gambia
 
1:12 PM
we have quite a lot of deaf adders here, who are not really snakes
they are legless lizards
also 250% harmless and scared of everything that moves
Anguis fragilis
 
@JAD I know. I'm just surprised at your surprise, so to speak, because that is the "standard" grouping as far as I know.
The dividing line between North and South Europe is usually (in my experience) drawn just above Milan, more or less.
 
JAD
interesting
 
2:08 PM
@JourneymanGeek if you're still around here's one for your tender attention: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/340884/…
 
@Magisch Oh, that one
@Magisch It appears I was too slow :D
That was a 'fun' one
 
burn it down with fire and salt the earth it was standing on it doesn't seem constructive and perhaps needs a delete vote by canine overlords to prevent disruption to MSE.
 
@Magisch It seems the community has spoken :D
 
ah, just as well
 
yup
I would have deleted it but got distracted :D
 
2:17 PM
Hmph.
 
2:47 PM
@JourneymanGeek wrt screenshots of deleted stuff, I always thought it was generally ok
 
@Magisch eh, kinda sorta
 
I've been making free screenshots for people on request for a long time, as have people done for me, e.g on SO
 
On request, sure
 
if it's not something that really shouldn't be seen
 
Posting it back on the same site it was deleted from....
 
2:48 PM
ah I get what you mean
 
Especially in the context of stuff that actually shouldn't be reposted and gets reposted in various imaginative ways...
 
All depends on the context. If I feel there's a reason to share something deleted, then I will; otherwise, if you can't see it... tough luck; stuff gets deleted for a reason.
 
Yup. But I can ask nicely and suggest we start with just the essentials
Also if I get any politically motivated harassment, I'm going to blame OP :D
 
@JourneymanGeek You alt-middle Godwin laws!
 
alt... what?
 
2:53 PM
Pfft, meta should be fun, but it's not
 
@JourneymanGeek shift
 
Del
Well, being offended by an SE site is so 2018
Can't people be more imaginative at the dawn of the next decade?
 
Well of course you would say that
Oh, the recent one
Now I see what you're talking about
But meh, that's more like some SciFi.SE leaking over to meta
 
oh that happened a while back
 
2:58 PM
It did? Good thing I'm not following meta
 
wheels out the giant notice board
boo
There we are!
Also is @M.A.R. the DUDE now?
Does the M.A.R Abide?
 
I abide
Maybe not your or @Mith's orders though
I'm more like Zemo from Capt US: Civil War
I'm watching an empire get torn to shreds and stuff you know. The recent Star Wars.
 
I need to watch that in a week or two
when the crowds are less, and I probably have a weekend afternoon showing mostly to myself :D
 
That sounds fun
Almost makes me want to envy you
If you were watching a real movie that is.
I mean, a critical approval rating of 50% for a Star Wars movie is like 20% for any other movie
That reminds me, I should go and contribute a bit to Google Translate after so long
 
Scott C Reynolds on December 23, 2019

Marla was dead to him, to begin with. There was no doubt about that. Marla had been his best partner, the back-end architect yin to his senior front-end engineer yang. But she quit a few weeks ago, leaving Stu, possessed of only the faintest knowledge of services (both serverful and serverless), to implement the new API.

Stu watched as the Slacks dwindled to a light trickle of GIFs and his coworkers left for the holidays, strains of the favorite joke of office comedians around the world filled the open floorplan. Yes, I will see you next year Tim, because it is almost New Year’s. How droll, Tim. How droll. …

 
3:07 PM
. . . Wat.
Why is it that every time I take a littlish break and come back everything here feels so extraterrestrial?
Except maybe @rene. And @Sha
 
It's because you have a face now. And a fancy scarf
 
Which is apparently a crispy wizard now
@Tinkeringbell That's not a scarf!
 
Oh. Then what is it supposed to be? :P
 
Rob
Probably need to wait more than "a week or two", to get a "showing mostly to yourself" - the secret is go during school and work hours.
 
@Rob I work shifts, and they switch around
 
Rob
3:12 PM
Bonus
 
so midweek, afternoon
though its the school holidays now
 
Rob
If you wander past on the way to somewhere else from time to time you can guage the line shrinkage and estimate when to go before it rotates out to the secondary theatres (that don't get first showings).
 
gotta admit though the holiday carol for coders post is cool
if dripping with clichee and so cheesy I need lactase tablets to digest it
 
Rob
@Tinkeringbell Lapels. Drawn in this style:
 
user245382
@JourneymanGeek I'm here if you want to talk about the Take A Stand thing without cluttering up the comments
 
3:26 PM
@House-'ReinstateMonica'-man eh. no
 
user245382
okay
 
@Mithical when you have time, a strange question.
Yanno the
"That's a foo!,
A bar is a whatsit that does whachamacallit" game where you get it wrong? ;p
Is repeating allowed?
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm here
:D
 
@ShadowTheBurningWizard you probably know the context too :D
 
@Rob looks like a pee gun 🔫
 
3:34 PM
Oh man
that looks like a super soaker
 
Rob
Urine the ballpark
 
I have a spray for that
 
@ShadowTheBurningWizard is your rename in protest due to the denial of the vreugde vuren in Duindorp and Scheveningen at new years eve?
 
@rene some of those letters are in a strange configuration
 
they look fine to me.
 
Rob
3:39 PM
It comes from a Yellow Pages commercial where a Convenience Store is robbed. The victim goes to the Police Station and is asked a series of inane questions. The Sketch Artist sketches furiously on his pad. ~5 seconds before the end of the 30 second spot the artist holds up the pad and says: "Is this the man whom robbed you!?" (proudly). To which the clerk replies: "You not an artist!, you can't draw!". -- Lesson: Always check the Yellow Pages first.
 
4:03 PM
@JourneymanGeek I have absolutely no idea
I doubt anybody's checking the whole rabbit hole
 
4:30 PM
Two clearly spam posts detected
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A: at least one field is required in angular 4 forms

Shikhar KeshriBALANCE IS BENIFICIAL . While we plan our causes and important moves in life,we do not realise the fact that lifes takes back a lot in return for all the good things it gives us

 
@Ṁűỻịgǻṇạcểơửṩᛗ Flag them as spam :)
 
5:19 PM
🍔
 
5:39 PM
Wooaaahhh, they're featuring it? After stating that they're not saying anything about the matter? That's unexpected.
Reserving judgement until I hear what Monica says, though.
 
@Mithical Sounds to me like they've come to an agreement, so that's probably also an end to 'not saying anything about the matter because legal'...
 
I guess.
 
@Script47 and @Fermiparadox You both know we don't discuss other user's suspensions, and commenting about someone else's suspension on an unrelated thread robs the person suspended of getting a clean slate upon return. That's why those comments were deleted.
And that's all I'm saying about this too. This is not going to be a discussion.
 
@Tinkeringbell if it is anonymous, is it still forbidden?
 
You were both naming names...
 
5:45 PM
We were supporting them. I don't see how this can be harmful to them. On the contrary it might help them. Anyway.... can I repost that without the names?
 
Besides the fact that it would also still be unrelated to the post you were both commenting on: If it's anonymous I don't really like people coming back and flagging stuff as 'it's about me, can you please delete it? I don't like seeing this'. It means someone was reminded of stuff they didn't want to be reminded of. You might want to think about if your conscience can live with that.
@Fermiparadox On that post? No. Unrelated to the post.
Honestly, if you want to talk with users about stuff like that... get an off-site venue.
Which I somehow think most people already have for exactly that kinda stuff.
 
Correct me if I m wrong, but a user asked "this is the screenshot of the post that got someone banned, what was offensive about this?" and then got a ban. How is that unrelated to a question titled "Is posting a screenshot of a deleted post against the rules?"?
 
....
 
Think. You can figure it out, I'm sure :)
If not, you might want to re-read the first message.
@ColumbiasaysReinstateMonica we truly can't for legal reasons. — Sara Chipps ♦ 55 secs ago
Seems there's still a bit of 'no comment' around :)
 
Hmmmm, can i ask offensive questions because I'm truely stupid?
 
6:00 PM
We'd first have to assume you're not stupid, but since you already disclosed you are... Nope.
 
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Q: Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

Sara ChippsStack Overflow and Monica Cellio have come to an agreement. We believe that Ms. Cellio was not acting with malicious intent. We believe she did not understand all of the nuances and full intent and meaning of our Code of Conduct and was confused about what actions it required and forbade. We ac...

Breaking news!
 
@djsmiley2k-CoW You also might want to rethink this... it's not just her fault, so making it that personal by saying to put it on her wall is kinda mean.
@Ṁűỻịgǻṇạcểơửṩᛗ You're late. (but welcome, don't think I've seen you here before?)
 
@Ṁűỻịgǻṇạcểơửṩᛗ ^ That
 
I ain't that active recently in SOF or SE until recently. I have been off to wor
Please enumerate the policy changes and make it transparent. We do not want to encounter another unexpected mess.
 
I'm... fairly sure the policy changes have all been announced and beaten to death already.
3
 
6:06 PM
In fact, where can I even find the policy change evidences?
Like, this post is just super controversial
 
summed up: a no-comment policy when talking to the press, a moderator removal process and a moderator reinstatement process were the biggest parts.
 
even my response is controversial
 
Meh. It's just not telling SE how bad they are enough. People want to be mad ;)
(Please don't edit your post to be more angry)
 
@Tinkeringbell hmmmm.
 
Hahaha. That is probably the most intense I will be normally.
 
6:10 PM
@djsmiley2k-CoW nudges to do the right thing, pretty please...
 
I just edited it
better
?
 
Marginally.
 
btw only changing it because I hope it'll cause you and @JourneymanGeek less trouble
I honestly believe it's her fault, and she was the main instigator of the whole thing
 
Who else was resonsible for this dismissa
 
@djsmiley2k-CoW Given the amount of comments coming in, we'll be cleaning them up for the next few days while that post is featured anyways.
 
6:12 PM
feel free to nuke it at any point I won't be upset.
words are dust.
I imagine the answers are going to suggest a lot worse.
So, good luck :S
 
@djsmiley2k-CoW I have a very strong feeling that's not true, that she only seems the public face of this because she made certain posts... but... it's only feeling and circumstantial stuff I can't tell you ;)
 
...given what I know of about how CM and staff powers work, and who has the abilities to do what, I can say almost positively that it was not her working alone.
 
@djsmiley2k-CoW Thank you :)
I appreciate you editing that comment :)
 
 
And... making Sara a scapegoat is a very bad idea. We'd be doing the exact same thing that people are criticizing SE for.
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6:13 PM
what do you think is the trajectory of Sara's post?
 
Honestly? AND THIS IS JUST OPINION NOT WORD OF LAW OR FACT OR TRUTH: one demand I've seen is for something of a public apology. The language this is written in (it seems carefully drafted) make me think the post is just as much *part* of the agreement as it is announcing there is some form of agreement reached.

I think more people might pick up on that, find the agreement 'unsatisfactory' and downvote it again.
 
What happens if Monica decides to regain her diamond?
 
If you want to do something right for Monica though: Consider heavily upvoting it. That way it'll appear highly ranked in Google results, and might be seen by future people searching for her name as the antithesis to the registry post.
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Then she'll go through the reinstatement process and... might get them back.
 
Rob
Huh, wears the hat.
 
guess the lawsuit got a lil too real
@Mithical Sounds like their lawyers realized a lawsuit is costly and lengthy and has large PR implications. In that vein maybe also that she has the funds to actually sue.
 
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A: Update: an agreement with Monica Cellio

Monica CellioI cannot comment. I've written previously on meta about removal and reinstatement.

Why can't Monica comment here?
 
Presumably legal reasons.
She's previously stated that she is unable to speak much about what's happening due to legal reasons.
 
@Ṁűỻịgǻṇạcểơửṩᛗ Most probably that was part of the agreement.
 
settlements often contain NDAs
I do hope though that she got a bit more out of the deal then the terse apology considering what she went through
 
6:33 PM
@Magisch I think that's a given, otherwise there'd be no agreement?
 
we obviously don't and can't know the details
 
She's got no reason to agree otherwise.
 
Here is a problem. Estimate the probability she will get reinstated.
 
but at the start she seemed very much happy to get an apology and retraction. I realize this sounds vindictive but I really hope this hit SE in the wallet hard enough that they'll think twice before even considering anything resembling a repeat
 
6:35 PM
I have posted updates on the post enumeration answer.
 
from a what-I-hope-for-for-the-future perspective
 
The chance all the moderators will come back is nil.
That is likely a true statement
 
> I am awaiting final information on expenses and will provide an accounting in an update as soon as possible. As stated previously, funds raised in excess of costs incurred will be donated to The Trevor Project , an organization that provides crisis-intervention services to LGBTQ+ youth and related resources to everyone.
That sounds like Monica's done with this now.
 
Rob
@djsmiley2k-CoW Funding stalled 5K of the second ask, with another ask on the table.
 
Hold on, let me fetch my crystal ball.
 
@Mithical while you're at it, can I get next month's lottery numbers
 
Yes
Your next month's lottery number is 666 666 666 666 666 666
 
Hey, those are my lucky numbers!
 
@Mithical Me too please (the lottery numbers)
 
6:51 PM
@Ṁűỻịgǻṇạcểơửṩᛗ yes as of a minute ago, btw
 
Rob
If that's his way of asking for a date it looks like he'll have to bring a couple of friends along.
 

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