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1:00 PM

@JourneymanGeek Hmm... I reckon it must be. Rude and abusive flags were in the tens of thousands per year in 2015 (on SO, but I assume that is where the vast majority of them are): meta.stackoverflow.com/a/302786/1709587

Unless there's been a 50-fold increase in flags since then, the claim isn't true

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@MarkAmery Let's say an average of 5 R/A or spam flags on a post before nuke, and 400000 all over the SE network makes some sense to me

Couple of biggish sites have been around since SO itself took off, like Journey's site

ArtOfCode

35636 spam posts alone, that's already 213k flags just on spam

Shadow Wizard

@MarkAmery umm.. no? Why would they lie about it?

Journeyman Geek

All time makes sense

Derpy

self-reminder: never search "inurl:_layouts/15/viewlsts.aspx" on Google. It is always worrisome to see the results

Journeyman Geek

1:04 PM

Also we will never see a large number of comment flags with blacklisted words I suspect

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Yeah, there's no need. A big number is a big number and it intends to shock and awe the audience. 2 million or 500k wouldn't differ to an outsider

@JourneymanGeek Thanks in advanced

Tinkeringbell

@MarkAmery Also... inappropriate can mean a lot.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy why?

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@Derpy Nice try, I'm not Googling it

Tinkeringbell

NAA's are inappropriate for SE too

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

1:05 PM

@ShadowWizard Derpy's real life name is inurl

Mark Amery

@ShadowWizard To make the welcoming drive sound like it's caused the removal of more content than it really has

@Tinkeringbell Fair enough; I guess that's vague enough to conceivably cover every flag.

Shadow Wizard

@MarkAmery no, SE isn't Trump, and don't use fake news to boost their power and affect people. As far as I know, and still believe that. :)

Maybe it's not 1,999,999 flags, and even not 1,900,000 but I'm sure it's also more than 1,000,000

Mark Amery

@Tinkeringbell Including flags on obsolete comments, I guess - they're just on content that's... "no longer" appropriate :P

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@ShadowWizard A wheel is older than a wall

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ a bird is bigger than an ant.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

1:08 PM

I wonder if he watched too many cartoons about Egyptians making a pyramid

Tinkeringbell

@MarkAmery You got it! :P Though I understand the confusion, and this makes it sound like that's 2 million flags on real nastiness instead of general janitorial tasks.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Nastyness is a nasty spelling

Nasti is nice

Feels like some chocolate brand

Tinkeringbell

No clue what you're talking about ! :P

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

I want 70% Nasti dark chocolate

Rob

Nike HyperAdapt self-lacing shoe after parkour:

Mark Amery

1:11 PM

@Tinkeringbell Yes, and I think that's an intentional misdirection, given that the stats are given in the same sentence as a mention of the new code of conduct

Rob

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Nestea is better

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Self-lacing shoe? Jesus 1st world, let us at least catch up a little bit

Magisch

@ShadowWizard But then you're supporting Nestle

The EA of food manufacturers

Tinkeringbell

@MarkAmery Well, that's constructive feedback on the next blog post for next year then ;)

Shadow Wizard

1:13 PM

@Tinkeringbell I think @M.A.R. try to be the new @Derpy. So far he's doing a good job towards that. :P

Derpy

@ShadowWizard that is the url of an "internal" page for a SharePoint web site.

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch Nes is good, it means "miracle" in Hebrew. ;)

Derpy

any results in that google query is a public facing site that forgot to remove anonymous access to that page

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@ShadowWizard No way, I'd be damned. And so will you. Can you tolerate TWO Lewis Carroll quoters?

Shadow Wizard

Funny trivia fact: in Hebrew, instant coffee is called "ness coffee", as if it's a miracle happening. :D

@Derpy OK, and? What's wrong with that? How a web page be "internal"?

Derpy

1:15 PM

that specific page "only" shows all of the site content, including list names and number of items - yet the fact that the query returns 18k results....

a potential sign of much worse issues

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Fun new question in the new question page

Wait, it's actually not fun. They already plead guilty

I want a rant. I WANT A RANT

Is it so much to ask? :'(

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ +5 points to you in the "Unclear Chatter Contest". So far it's 560 for @Derpy and 420 for you. :D

Derpy

@ShadowWizard that page shows the structure of the site collection. Doesn't make much sense to have it configured with anonymous access.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

@ShadowWizard Dude. Doood. You should see me when I'm being REALLY unclear

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Hey, if you don't try... I did the same when they banned my Neopets account XD

Shadow Wizard

1:18 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ rant for rent. It cost 10 rants to buy five!

Derpy

It is true that that specific page doesn't really give much attack surface but it is a clear sign of potential issues.

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ show me! :P

@Derpy lazy programmer? ;)

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

Undo's call for higher quality spam and rant has never been more relevant

@ShadowWizard It mostly happens when my attempted jokes end up too brainy

Derpy

@ShadowWizard that's not SharePoint programmers fault but yep, that basically sums it.

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

That was, hmm, early 2017?

Shadow Wizard

1:20 PM

oh, BTW, the cheese board is perfect fit in my kitchen!

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Finally!

Glad to see it arrived :P

Derpy

@ShadowWizard to give you a not-so-good comparison, leaving that page viewable with anonymous access on a public site is somehow similar to leave directory browsing turned on on an asp.net internet facing site.

Shadow Wizard

Who is alpa chino?

And why there is zippykid in the image URL?! lol

Image will surely rot soon.

(i.e. when SE will switch blog platform again, which might be couple of months, maximum couple of years.)

Derpy

Al Pacino

Alfredo James Pacino (; born April 25, 1940) is an American actor and filmmaker. Pacino has had a career spanning more than five decades, during which time he has received numerous accolades and honors both competitive and honorary, among them an Academy Award, two Tony Awards, two Primetime Emmy Awards, a British Academy Film Award, four Golden Globe Awards, the Lifetime Achievement Award from the American Film Institute, the Golden Globe Cecil B. DeMille Award, and the National Medal of Arts. He is one of few performers to have won a competitive Oscar, an Emmy, and a Tony Award for acting, dubbed...

Shadow Wizard

They're now back to WordPress, for the third time or so, right? (After failed attempts to make their own platform)

Derpy

1:23 PM

al pacino + alpaca meme == alpa_chino

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy cheers! Now it's 540:420 for you in the contest. ;)

@Tinkeringbell thanks! :)

@Derpy well, assuming it's anonymous on default, it's Microsoft fault, But yeah...