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2:01 AM
morning
nah, no spam please, thank you...
 
2:36 AM
17 hours left for Korean.SE' nomination phase...
> I have a very good informations of Korean, and I have Sincerity and I am faithfull. So I can be a dominator.
 
 
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4:19 AM
@Somewhat Maybe if on pro-tem elections we set a minimum candidate score requirement in case a user would become moderator due to a non-competitive election?
The user seems inexperienced in my opinion.
 
is "dominator" the male version of "dominatrix"?
 
4:55 AM
It is
And "moderatrix" is the female version of "moderator". Why?
Oh, I see. :)
Is "What the hell are you talking about, fool?" polite? stackoverflow.com/questions/52584737/…
I don't even know what to close-vote it with...
 
It's so unclear that I vote as unclear
 
5:53 AM
@Somewhat clearly
 
6:08 AM
morning
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[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer (51): Two easy questions for arithmetic progression by Ib Elite Tutor on math.SE
 
6:33 AM
@Amadan imperator imperitrix is also a thing
 
Just read the post about the ideas for a new election system
seems like the CMs are tired of handpicking candidates on all the beta sites
 
Carmina Burana's first movement is called fortuna imperitrix mundi g.co/kgs/aQza8T
 
mator and matrix... wut
 
6:52 AM
When there's a chat flag, how many approval does it need? AFAIK, only 1?
 
Ya
I thought I cleared the one here
 
thanks!
 
@Magisch tbh I really think the initial batch should be picked
 
I just realized this sentence by Shog...
> Bad: Magisch ruined it for everyone. Now no one gets to talk.
 
hey :(
 
6:58 AM
Lol
 
I have been tempted to do that
:)
But ya. Like site flags I think we can look at those and decide appropriately.
It's less annoying than flags in non English languages
 
Hmm... if I may know, what's the craziest mod flag you have seen? Has someone ever asked "a/s/l please?"
 
The Russian/pt ones
:p
Other than that IDK if I can talk specifics. Mainly cause I don't remember off hand
And personally if you're offended by something it's actually good to voice it out I think
 
7:17 AM
 
makes sense
the rep limit is mostly to prevent spam I think
 
if you're gonna pay SE money every month to get spam banned then be their guest I suppose
 
Nefarious plans hatching here :P
 
7:28 AM
@Magisch The rationale is that users should generally have at least some site experience before being able to participate in a site's governance.
@Somewhat Thanks; edited the FAQ.
 
We finally found an "post image of code" offender that talks back: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/374741/578411 One of the SE UX researchers might want to interview them to see if there are more valuable insights.
 
considering the scale of elections I could easily see joke candidates winning on smaller sites with small meta participation
And then SE would have to once again get into the business of vetting candidates to prevent that
 
@rene Hey nice! And it makes sense too... if you don't know about code-formatting, you might just post a picture because that has the right formatting, and copy-paste might've just messed everything up!
 
7:54 AM
@Tinkeringbell When I first read the help page on how to post code, it said I have to indent code by four spaces. This seemed like a very daunting and extremely time-consuming task. But luckily I happened to notice the button to format the code and add in the required spacing.
 
@Magisch if this is about Korean.SE, then I'm afraid you're correct
oh, nvm. The only candidate's gone
and both Korean.SE and Emacs.SE back to 0 candidates
 
@Magisch A simple criterion would be to only appoint candidates with a minimum 10/40 candidate score should the pro-tem election become non-competitive.
What do you think of that?
 
and since Korean.SE is still pro-tempore... you can even be the sole candidate 1 minute before the nomination/election end
 
@Somewhat SE said that for pro-tem elections, they have the right to remove a candidate at any time for any reason
@Somewhat The appointment process is completely manual, so SE could simply decide not to give them a diamond
The official documentation is here:
 
^ wrong link, maybe delete?
 
8:05 AM
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Q: Announcing a Pro Tempore election

Jon EricsonSummary: Parenting will begin the nomination stage for a special election on April 30, 2018 to bring in one more moderator. Last year (has it really been a year?) I broached the idea of beta elections. As a pilot project, we're going to attempt running an election here on Parenting. This commun...

@Derpy bad clipboard
Apparently I keep pressing Fn+C instead of Ctrl+C
Used to using a desktop keyboard
@Derpy I deleted that pretty much a few seconds later; it's just caching on your end
 
Yay again for the "User was removed" message... Can I at least know which post was affected?
 
@Derpy Query SEDE for all your posts with scores; you'll know because it'll mismatch. It's only updated on Sundays.
 
@SonictheInclusiveWerehog good to know, yet it seems too much work for too little gain.
I was just suggesting that the message in the rep tab probably shouldn't be just an "one line" thing in the first place
I mean, they clearly have the data on server side - I don't know why it was deemed simpler to generate one single "summary" message instead of just generating a separate message for every affected post
Seems once again a "try to make it so they won't notice => won't rant" approach.
Hide stuff to make moderation simpler? Yeeeks, we must be really horrible if the staff had to come to that
 
8:34 AM
@Somewhat There'd surely be people with lots of meta experience but little site experience willing, but the mod elections aren't targeted at them. SE wants people with both
doesn't mean there'll be any willing
 
9:08 AM
so beautiful.
Find a question with very few details
Interpolate the problem by crossreferencing the code posted and common pitfalls in javascript Promise handling
write reply.
In the meantime the OP posts a link to a stackblitz in a comment.
Said stackblitz:
a) doesn't run properly - gives out parse error
b) doesn't contain anything that resemble the code originally posted - There isn't any .subscribe in the first place
Abandon thread. This is not a drill. Evacuate immediately
 
do the panic dance
 
@Somewhat to be fair, it's my fault. I should have read the sign of a cursed question and just skip to the next one, but it seemed so easy to answer...
I was tricked by the Dark Side's promises of easy reps points
 
9:32 AM
oh, well, time to continue the "unicorn swag promotion tour"
 
10:34 AM
@Derpy guess you could say you were acting derpy
:D
 
@Magisch be careful with that word. I obviously won't care since it is pretty evident that you just meant "silly". But some "smart guy" could flag it since sadly "Derpy" has an offensive connotation too - that's one of the reasons Hasbro almost never uses that name (to the point of labeling Derpy toys as "Muffin")
by which I obviously don't mean that it was a mistake to say that - it's a good joke. Just that lately there is an abundance of "out of context message flagging"
 
10:57 AM
so... all clues seem to point ad Tim Post as the lucky guy that gets the privilege of free extra work handling the Anniversary.
Now, if we cross this info with the latest events in Stackexchange history..... and the lucky roles Tim had in those
I do wonder...
@TimPost Am I guess correctly and one of the swag items Catjia was talking about is a shirt with the new CoC printed on it?
 
@Derpy It's literally a wordplay on your displayname though :p
I don't really think derpy has any negative connotations. It's usually used in an endearing way
 
11:30 AM
.... I need some CCG card generator, preferably super hero themed. I know and used some Magic/Yu-gi-oh card generators in the past, sadly they don't fit the call
 
11:55 AM
Free question of the day.
Visual Studio Code has recently moved from a system-wide installation model (ended up in c:\\Program Files) to a by-user one (C:\Users\name\AppData\...)
so... It is really a smart idea to have the installer add the executable to the PATH variable by default? ^_^
kudos to the happy day two different devs install Code on the same machine and one of them finds out his PATH now points out to the User folder of the other one, which obviously is inaccessible....
 
This "question" was put on hold, but it's spam in my opinion, although it contains no link.
 
@AnneDaunted does feel like a spam seed
 
@Derpy sounds stupid
 
12:23 PM
@Magisch that's why I posted it in the first place. Gave me the same felling
 
12:43 PM
@Derpy put you in the mind to fell a couple trees?
:D
 
1:38 PM
corporate internet connection is going at about 0.7mbs. Or at least that's what google claims
which probably is very true....
Update manager trying to download a 7455kB gcc-7 for a while now....
35 kB/s reported
 
Kilobitten
 
kilokitten
 
2:05 PM
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3:50 PM
you shouldn't be here Catjia. You should be packaging unicorn plushes.
they are winning the race. You have to :P
 
yesterday, by Catija
@SonictheInclusiveWerehog You don't get to tell me what to get to eventually.
@AnneDaunted Out of curiosity, are you trying to become the next Peter Mortensen? ;)
 
4:13 PM
 
4:27 PM
@Feeds I... I don't receive any calls ;_;
 
4:39 PM
i only receive cold calls
"Hey we can get you on page 1 of google!"
 
@Somewhat Get a manager :P
They are missing on that chart, managers.
 
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5:12 PM
@SonictheInclusiveWerehog Why are you asking? I edited one question today, removing .
 
@AnneDaunted Just jokingly referring to your overall editing patterns lately
 
My editing patterns? I do not edit everything I come across, including closed off topic question soon-to-be deleted by Roomba.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, toxic answer detected (164): What are the highest and lowest precision Coordinate Reference Systems for US East Coast? by reet on gis.SE
 
@AnneDaunted Meaning the types of edits you make.
 
Tags and typos? Unlike your edits?
 
5:25 PM
@AnneDaunted Yeah, the fact that you tend to make many minor, grammar edits here.
 
Well, that's my editing philosophy: Typos, grammar, formatting, tags, maybe clean upa bit, but leave the post itself intact.
 
6:30 PM
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a daunting task
 
7:27 PM
Are year-old questions with no votes on either the question or any answer useful?
I don't really see the benefit of keeping those 3 million questions around.
 
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@Dukeling nor do I see much benefit in removing them. The on site search is working to give me q/a's with value (if voting is the measure for that)
 
7:49 PM
@rene If nothing else, it might help the existing users focus more on moderating and answering the more useful questions. It might make a dent in the close vote queue. Even if most of that is mostly focused on the endless and overwhelming stream of new questions.
 
You could ask to have another roomba category, if that is where that endless discussion is leading us
I'm more concerned that we don't have users left that are prepared or willing to push a Q/A pair into a roomba category at all
 
Meh, I don't have much faith that the request will be received well, never mind that it will get implemented. I prefer to just throw my ideas into the void that is chat.
 
You can't ask for a site to be cleaned from junk without users giving some signal to indicate something is junk
And I get pretty pissed-off if I have users demanding that we do something about site quality and clean-up while their own record show they didn't contribute much in that direction
 
I've been demotivated from downvoting by the fact that voting totals are shown on one's profile.
Food for thought.
 
checks stats and prepares to rant
well, at least your vote balance is okay
 
7:56 PM
I'm already sitting on almost 90% downvotes.
 
nobody needs a ranting flower
...
when rene shakes his petals, razorleaf is cast
 
I've been demotivated from flagging because I don't like the new flagging UI (and it also seems pointless).
I've been demotivated from answering due to the low quality of questions.
Am I just looking for excuses, or is everything terrible?
 
Yes
 
Why not both?
 
embrace the void
 
8:16 PM
just resort to voting
the voting ui hasn't changed yet
What's wrong with voting totals being shown in the profile?
like, yes, i've cast a lot of downvotes, but i've also cast 3950 upvotes
 
You might be considered to be in violation of the CoC
 
I suspect the three downvotes i've received in the past 24 hours are revenge votes
 
@rene ???
 
I have a hard time finding posts that I find useful and that meet my standards, so I rarely upvote. And having a very high percentage of downvotes probably won't look good to anyone looking at my profile, and may create a false impression of what I'm like in real life.
 
8:20 PM
Depends on who is looking
 
don't care about those people
if they're looking for something wrong, they're going to find it
whether it's your voting ratio or something else
 
I'm jealous about 90% down votes
 
8:37 PM
@Magisch That seems to be the theme of the latest WoW expac
 
> I was tricked.
 
When a question is closed as a dupe of multiple questions, does it auto redirect search traffic to the first one?
 
@KevinB You mean for non-logged-in users?
 
yes
 
I thought we only had auto-redirects for merged or migrated questions.
 
8:49 PM
stackoverflow.com/questions/52596459/… for example if opened in incognito will send you to the dupe
but it's really a combination of two separate questions, how does this work, and arrow functions vs non arrow functions
but i think that distinction gets lost if it just redirects to the first one in the list
 
I'm not sure which one gets picked, actually...
 
nobody knows ...
probably the first one SQL Server dreams up
if no order by is present on the sql statement
which is true for a lot of sql in the SE codebase so I'm told
 
It used to be (more) difficult to have more than one dupe target, so it was pretty rare...
 
9:06 PM
So, in some ways the user experience is worse if you're a registered user...
 
i dunno bout that
when i open up an incognito tab, i'm bombarded with ads and banners
 
Not in a lot of ways, but in some ways.
Food or sleep, that is the question.
 
@KevinB It only redirects if there's only one dupe target.
 
cool
 
9:18 PM
@Dukeling I'm going for sleep myself. Cya.
 
9:46 PM
Question on voting reversal scripts. If a user posts a bad question with several bad self answers would a down vote on the question/answers possibly trigger the script?
 
possibly
if there's enough self answers
 
Possibly (probably not?), but I'd say you shouldn't worry about it in that case. Reversals are more about the user receiving them than you, unless you're not doing what you're supposed to, which doesn't apply here.
 
Not worried about votes getting reversed, just have never seen something like it before so was wondering.
 
If you're particularly inclined to make sure they don't get off scot-free, downvote only one post and move on. But you shouldn't be.
 
be interesting to know if for the scripts it looks at votes overall or on the number of questions/answers where they happened. if they treat self questions/answers like a single answer/question elsehwere
 
9:54 PM
i doubt such specifics would be revealed
 
I imagine they care a lot about how you get to the posts you downvote. Visit someone's profile and the script is much more likely to kick in. Just browse random question lists and vote according to quality and it should trigger very rarely (unless you're specifically looking for someone's posts when doing this).
 
@Taryn hey, can you please take a quick look on this answer and confirm or "unconfirm" it? Just to close that small SSL corner? Thanks a bunch! :)
@Dukeling food! This is always food.
Going to sleep hungry is bad! :)
 
Maybe I'll dream of some nice juicy ... burgers.
Eating too much is also bad.
 
10:49 PM
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@Dukeling I was always under the impression it was very simple. Proportion and velocity...
 

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