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12:41 AM

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Success

1:55 AM

> Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm talking about. -- Jeff Atwood's intro text

I guess just like all other Twitter users...

user315433

2:10 AM

Twitter should have a feature to block @- for a particular tweet, or globally.

user315433

Meaning no notifications, and any attempts to @reply do not get linked under the tweet.

user315433

I know that hiding notifications in the topbar is a benefit to my mental health, especially after posting on meta.

user315433

TIL Sandwich Training Educational Programme is not about working at a Subway or such.

user315433

It was from an email "New funding opportunity matched based on your profiles". Academic version of "We really like this job for you"

user315433

Suggesting a PhD fellowship to me is just a little (12 years) too late, though.

user315433

2:39 AM

So we've passed the mark of 1 year without site designs. Updated list here.

user315433

Sure, it makes sense that the design efforts should be focused on rearranging buttons on the Jobs sites, maximizing clicks and conversion rate.

user315433

But maybe an announcement is in order, "no more custom site designs", similar to "no more X" in the past where X is in "Twitter bot", "blog", or "s.tk URL".

Success

Poor Anime & Manga! I wonder what the special challenge there is. — Monica Cellio 1 hour ago

The special challenge is not to become like

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Q: The Anime and Manga "Unofficial" Design! [WIP]

In the chat room a while back we discussed possibly of jump starting the whole design thing ourselves by creating a userscript, one which we can then alter to have different themes so that way those of us who wanted a Naruto or Dragoball Z can still get it without people getting upset. well i had...

user315433

Although if "no more designs" is made official, there'll be an issue of when, if ever, privilege levels switch from beta to normal.

user315433

2:54 AM

As grateful as I am to get a "new answer" notification at 3am, it falls on me to tell you that either half of your answer glitched out as you were posting it, or you need to take another quick read of the stack exchange rules :) — Mikasa Pinata 8 mins ago

user315433

See? Notifications are evil.

user315433

The answer is red-flaggable, I think.

Success

Notification is the next nightmare after waking up from sleep

phone's alarm rings, wake up, dismiss it, see phone's notification bar, THERE'S SE ICON OVER THERE, sleep again

user315433

But what if the notification is from a meta argument?

user315433

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

Success

3:02 AM

That's beyond nightmare!

bwDraco

user315433

> We really like this update for you

Journeyman Geek

4:06 AM

@Desire I just turn off my phone at 11

Catija

Do not disturb. I don't see anything until I wake up.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija also saves on power ;p

Catija

@JourneymanGeek Oh... I mean the iPhone feature. I have it stop alerting me of anything between 10pm and 7am but it's set to let in repeated calls from the same number and it allows me to whitelist numbers that need to get through.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija android has it too

but my specific phone will turn on and off on a schedule too

Catija

But I don't think that saves any power.

And I charge my phone while I sleep, so it's sort of moot.

Journeyman Geek

4:19 AM

sometimes I forget ;p

Success

OTOH, notification sound itself doesn't wake me or even annoy me while I'm sleeping... If that's a good thing or bad thing :-|

Meta SE chat sound, on the other hand...

Catija

@Success You mean the main chat server or this one? I like this one.

Success

Unfortunately, the screeching(?) sound is frightening me

Catija

Screeching? It sounds like the doorbell on Star Trek.

star trek TNG door personal ringtone

►

Success

As someone who doesn't follow Star Trek, it's always surprising me ;p

Journeyman Geek

5:01 AM

I prefer it to the main site BONG!

also my phone notification tone basically goes CHOO CHOO

Journeyman Geek

6:10 AM

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Sha Wiz Dow Ard

7:48 AM

plz-delete open ports meta.stackexchange.com/questions/301791/… @Bart @rene

@Catija congrats, I see your kid grew up... :D

rene

@ShaWizDowArd needs Bart ...

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@rene maybe @Bart needs coffee?

rene

We could see if Smokey is up for coffee?

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd 395 to go ;p

rene

Or we could have kenny vomit some ...

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

7:51 AM

@JourneymanGeek soon!

Journeyman Geek

yup

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@rene OK, he's pingable in Den. He got fresh hot TEAPOT from Kenny.

rene

awesome

He would be happy

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

happu? Not hippo?

Journeyman Geek

HAAAAAPPPPPUUUUU!

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

7:53 AM

yummy ^

I start with the head, usually.

@Desire huh. So he undeleted the account...

afaik SE doesn't give such second chance, once account is really deleted, there's no turning back.

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd ehhh, kinda

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

(user can create new account and ask to recover ownership of the posts perhaps, but it will still be new account, and all links to old account broken)

Journeyman Geek

There is the cooloff period

IIRC LJ does that too (I deleted my LJ account at some point)

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek not relevant, Jeff account was utterly deleted, giving a generic error message.

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd ah

I'm clearly not following the gossips well enough ;p

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

7:58 AM

lol

What's LJ? @Journeyman

Journeyman Geek

cause it was working when I checked

@ShaWizDowArd old blogging site. New russian owners managed to piss off their entire userbase.

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

huh

Journeyman Geek

Livejournal?

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

Very common... old private site sold to big company, big company doesn't really care for it, users leave, site closed.

Was part of such thing in some big ASP forums.

Same will happen if/when SE will be sold, e.g. to Google or Microsoft.

Journeyman Geek

hm

messier than that

LiveJournal

LiveJournal (Russian: Живой Журнал) is a Russian (originally American) social networking service where users can keep a blog, journal or diary. LiveJournal was started on April 15, 1999 by American programmer Brad Fitzpatrick as a way of keeping his high school friends updated on his activities. In January 2005, blogging software company Six Apart purchased Danga Interactive, the company that operated LiveJournal, from Fitzpatrick. Six Apart sold LiveJournal to Russian media company SUP Media in 2007; the service continued to operate out of the U.S. via a California-based subsidiary, LiveJournal...

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

8:01 AM

Yeah, saw that.

Journeyman Geek

They essentially, retroactively forced users to agree to a TOS that was only in russian (since the english version had no legal standing)

I don't really see the point of making a fuss, but there was little on LJ I cared about enough to agree to that

so I made a stand? ;p

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

lol

Journeyman Geek

I basically left a note so anyone still on LJ and bothered to check could find me

most folks moved over to dreamwidth or facebook

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

I was member of aspfree for 7 years or so, maybe more... became moderator, but then the owner (single person who started it) sold it to some big company for bunch of $$$, and the site died in matter of months.

Success

8:57 AM

I dreamt dancing badgers

Journeyman Geek

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@ShaWizDowArd that's a thing isn't it. Whoever runs a place needs to get it

LJ got big cause it was a friendly place for... everyone

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek yeah but probably being friendly isn't enough to make money...

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd there's different sorts of unfriendliness

basically they went full hostile to most of their old userbase by that - there's a lot of LGBT folk who used to use LJ for example

rene

9:18 AM

You take a stance and gone is the userbase ....

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek huh. So it's like throwing them to the lions... almost literally.

@rene unless you're Joel. ;)

SO userbase is stronger than any stand.

Success

Perhaps it's what is called love-hate relationship? You hate that there's politic on SO, but it's the site where you almost always find the solution for your programming problems...

Journeyman Geek

@Success heh. I was actually kinda sympathetic to what SE was trying to do sooooo

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Success the actual userbase of SO don't really need to "find solutions", they post those solutions.

Those who consume the solutions don't care about the politics in SO.

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd but a lot of the actual userbase tends to complain a lot, and stay anyway

anyone actually against it would just quit ;p

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

9:30 AM

@JourneymanGeek oh. Yup. But not to find solutions, just because... it's an addiction. :D

Journeyman Geek

hah

cough

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

cough

Journeyman Geek

There does come a point where reputation dosen't matter that much...

at... around 100k. though 250k sounds nice... ;p

Success

I bet they also find solutions, but they are also smart in Googling, so they don't ask on SO ;p

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek Or the other way around, hunt for more reputation becomes the goal.

Journeyman Geek

9:31 AM

@ShaWizDowArd bit of both?

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek yup

Success

just a silent upvote, in the middle of a sea of answers

Journeyman Geek

I don't rep-hunt , and playing fair means a lot to me

(and I figure meta is one of those places where I can share, oh, 8 + years here of SE-knowledge, if I can sneak in before a staffer ;p)

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@Success hmm?

Journeyman Geek

On the other hand, I don't think I'm entirely not motivated by imaginary internet points and shiny ~~stickers~~ badges

Success

9:35 AM

ooh, shiny!

Sinister

11:45 AM

!!/tea

Journeyman Geek

12:59 PM

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M.A.R.

@Journey congrats for RO

Journeyman Geek

Thanks. ;p

M.A.R.

Does ";p" mean "you should be jealous"?

Journeyman Geek

lol. it means I'll be cleaning up behind smokey every so often.

(anyway, not as funny as how I became Root Access RO)

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek how?

Oct 1 at 7:26, by Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd this a dog-grin

!!/tea for thirsty @Sin

SmokeDetector

1:03 PM

@ShaWizDowArd brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @ShaWizDowArd

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

Hey @Journeyman don't move tea to Chimney, it will burn! :D

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd automatically

basically if enough of the ROs are inactive, they get de-roed, and the most active person in the chatroom gets ROed. Which was me.

@ShaWizDowArd oops

(so I got made RO for ~~idling a lot~~ talking too much)

user315433

1:25 PM

Pets is 4 years old today. Most viewed question of the year: My cat seems to dislike the idea of morning walk. Should I continue?

Journeyman Geek

hah

user315433

An interesting position on Travel meta...

user315433

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Q: Do we need to completely reform our mod team?

What is this nonsense of Gayot Fow banned? He is, by a mile, our biggest asset. If our moderators can't work with him, we need new moderators.

discussion

Journeyman Geek

hm

I can't think of any user on SU who's indispensable. I'd be a little shocked if some people were suspended, but only cause they're nice chaps.

Success

Am I right in interpreting it as ”some mods can't work together with this one mod, we should get rid of them instead of this one"

user315433

1:30 PM

GF isn't a mod.

Journeyman Geek

Gayot Fow isn't a mod

If memory serves right, he's basically a user who's got encyclopedic knoweldge of certain things. But has been known to be a little grumpy

Success

Oops, I can't read :(

!!/coffee

SmokeDetector

@Success brews coffee for @Success

Journeyman Geek

You need something a bit stronger.

user315433

0

A: Download apps without google account for work device

how to download using pray store

user315433

1:36 PM

"pray that it works"?

user315433

People do strangest things with their Android phones.

Journeyman Geek

"Pray hard. Pray harder!"

M.A.R.

I guess if they have IAP (In App Praying) they just need to pray a little bit

user315433

0

A: "And to you" or "you too"?

Somebody with his wife, both dressed colourfully,took a photograph in FALL COLOUR environment in USA and posted in Face Book with a remark Fall Colours. A REPLY WAS POSTED ------ FINE. YOU T...

Journeyman Geek

zeee what the what zee what?

user315433

1:41 PM

Something is fishy, writing "colours" in the USA.

Journeyman Geek

The name is indian. They spell something similar to but not entirely unlike how the british do.

user315433

So they also dress colourfully.

Journeyman Geek

Sometimes

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

2:02 PM

throwing joke on @Journeyman

:D

Journeyman Geek

@ShaWizDowArd we had a post on answers as comments on SU meta

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek closing as dupe

Journeyman Geek

hah

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

Was looking for dupe actually, found some close matches but guess better leave it alone.

Journeyman Geek

aww ;p

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

2:12 PM

giving hammer bit of rest ;)

@SmokeDetector gone

Journeyman Geek

hah, Nuked ;)

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

@JourneymanGeek no second chance for poor user? He might have become a contributing user with some love and care.... :P

@ShaWizDowArd hmm.

Why you humming? ;)

2:23 PM

Not humming? :(

So what sound does "hmm" do?

Just "hmm-ing"?

calling @Bart for help

Where's @tchrist when we need him and his awesome language skills? :D

Journeyman Geek

;p

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

> last message 154d ago

:(

@tchrist have we lost you for good?

Won't hurt to try... it works sometimes.... :D

b_jonas

3:08 PM

Chat search is acting up again. chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=We%C3%B6res&room=1037 doesn't find chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/38640072#38640072 despite that it does have that name in the text and is in that room.

Sinister

@b_jonas Is this the first time it is acting like this?

@Telkitty o/

Sha Wiz Dow Ard

3:25 PM

@b_jonas did it ever work? Not sure, probably the latin character breaks it

Sinister

My guess was the same. Special characters don't show up in search bar.

b_jonas

@Sinister I don't think so, but so far I didn't manage to prove it, because either I didn't find the line I was searching for, or I didn't look at past queries I tried to see if they really matched.

This is the first time I could definitely catch it on clearly not matching something it must match. As opposed to just misfeatures like the word "avatar" matching every SE post one-box that has an avatar of the poster.

Success

Weöres

Sinister

@b_jonas See this chat search. I searched for this one but no results except the questions.

Success

How aboout other characters, like こんにちは ...

Seems it only searches ASCII...

Sinister

3:34 PM

Non English characters are not showing up.

b_jonas

@Sinister Ok, so I'm not the only one for whom it fails.

user315433

4:10 PM

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A: What is the best way to remove a stuck/rusted exhaust bolt?

Dark magic works best.YES....people it's real.You can tell yourself whatever you'd like to sleep at night and feel safe.

user315433

I largely agree, if it is really stuck.

redhand

5:53 PM

2 hours later...

redhand

6:31 PM

shall we blame the fb inbuilt notif s/m?

@SmokeDetector fp naa

Sklivvz

10:04 PM

Just had to turn off all instant apps on my phone to stop that ~~completely useless app~~ stack overflow app from appearing. wat.

user202362

11:25 PM

@Sinister cute kitty

user315433

> We really like this app for you

user315433

11:42 PM

> In the consciousness of the truth he has perceived, man now sees everywhere only the awfulness or the absurdity of existence and loathing seizes him.

Journeyman Geek

@Sklivvz hah

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