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12:37 AM

@Shog9 Are you talking feedback for users in if they're asking/answering well? Or feedback in terms of getting answers quickly?

@hichris123 you post something, you may or may not get any reaction for... hours, days, months.

comments, votes...

I'd at least hope most posts get a vote if nothing else...

Questions get answered, but an awful lot of answers don't get anything

(although, if people just downvoted posts they voted to close...)

bwDraco

I've spent a little bit of time on Yahoo Answers. Way too many junk questions and answers, but you can still get useful info there at times.

user315433

12:45 AM

On webapps, where getting no feedback is par for the course, I often filter by newest answers to vote on them. But this is not something the UI encourages.

user315433

FR: make anonymous feedback visible to the author of post.

user315433

Maybe the first positive feedback on a zero score post could even be a notification or badge.

user315433

Although the feedback probably takes longer to arrive than votes.

1:08 AM

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user202362

anyone here is a mac expert?

1:23 AM

sorta

Youtube is amazing.

user202362

1:37 AM

I am dissecting my mac

user202362

by going thru the file system

uh oh

user202362

so if you do:

user202362

 ps aux | more

user202362

on your console

user202362

1:47 AM

do you have any users other than yourself and root

ps axu | egrep -v "^(root|$USER)"

user202362

Thanks :p

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> "Las predicciones del 3º cap..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Home Box Office Inc..

hahah

That was quick.

¿Quieres que te diga lo que contó? :)

I can still watch it, but don't know how to capture it.

It's really a curious copyright claim.

He's simply recounting in his own words what happens in the episode.

I cannot see how that can be subject to a copyright claim.

@bjb568 But I know you are not a follower, for you were spluttering while it was on.

2:11 AM

@tchrist I have no idea what that means.

I asked if you wanted me to tell you what it said.

Oh, I wrongly interpreted diga as 3rd person.

user202362

4

2:38 AM

Wow:

67

A: What does "trodie" mean?

It's a word I made up! It's for someone who habitually electrically stimulates the brain's pleasure centres via an implanted electrode. (Like 'wirehead' in some stories by Larry Niven.)

Hard to get more authoritative than that.

user202362

Do people choose pain over boredom?

I almost missed Happy Hour!

Doorknob

> People who didn't think they'd pay to avoid the shock were excluded - as was one man who pushed the button 190 times.
"I'm not sure what was up with him," Prof Wilson said.

> Perhaps the subjects simply did it to stay awake, and having now read the author's paper from beginning to end I can understand their plight.

2:59 AM

The very young and the very old are, perhaps, the few among us who are constantly aware of the pain of every action in life, up to and including the act of being aware of one's surroundings.

But perhaps we all know, on some rarely consulted level, that we've each chosen pain.

And... Given the chance... Are more than willing to double down...

user315433

Yes, like people asking for double daily review quota.

That study seems to have failed that same xkcd. Just because someone shocks themself doesn't mean that they want pain -- a lot of people are likely curious about how an electric shock would feel.

user202362

how do the very young constantly aware of the pain of every action?

user315433

Although one can argue this is as much about inflicting pain.

I do think reviewers doesn't read the whole post... I have exactly the same problem. Perhaps your problem will solved by unblock the ports in your firewall. -> "Me too!". However, from the second sentence...

user315433

3:08 AM

The guessing answers are tricky. "I'm sneezing a lot recently". "I have the same problem, and X helps".

Yeah... that's why I skip these. They're not good answers, but that review comment was definitely wrong.

Honestly, I think the biggest problem LQP has is poor flagging. Poor auto-flags, poor manual flagging. And some people who feel the need to flag old link-only answers...

user315433

FR: delete automatically generated comments with 1 flag.

user202362

IMO people don't usually choose pain directly - very few people hurt themselves because they want the pain. But people tend to choose pain indirectly - take me for example, I would choose to do a 30km hiking in a day, knowing 90+% of the chance I would end up in pain. I would still sign myself up and do the hike.

user315433

3:40 AM

user315433

What kind of font is that... the CSS these days is full of surprises. (Screenshot from Unix.SE)

3:53 AM

Which one? The header?

One of these monospace fonts: "DejaVu Sans Mono","Bitstream Vera Sans Mono","Courier New",Courier,Consolas,"Andale Mono WT","Andale Mono","Lucida Console","Lucida Sans Typewriter",monospace;

(I saw different font, it's very thin compared to yours.)

:d

oh hell, there's PII

there's always PII.

user315433

The header looks weirdly oversized and weirdly monospaced.

DevDoodle doesn't have this problem.

Really, what's with these CSS problems? SE's front end sucks.

How hard is it to not change the font from the sane default?

user202362

@Meta toggle buttons or a group of check boxes?

Should be toggle buttons.

user202362

4:07 AM

shoulda ... woulda ... coulda

Google and Youtube are down for me. Repro?

user202362

you mac is hacked too

user202362

or connection issues

user202362

or browser issue

user202362

or others

4:09 AM

Weird, I can't curl google.com on my mac, but it works on my phone.

user202362

internet is dangerous place you know ...

user202362

restart mac to fix everything

user202362

success rate: 90%

Confirmed google problem.

They probably screwed up some DNS.

user202362

4:12 AM

but it's working on your phone?

No, borkage here too.

Fixed now.

user315433

I used a workaround for CSS problem with the flagging dialog: use the API instead.

user315433

SEDE -> download CSV -> import into Google Sheets (what else) -> run a script

What else? …

user315433

It's a really convenient tool for this kind of task.

4:20 AM

Meh.

user202362

wtf is with this dialog box

user202362

why is there whole lots of blank space at the left side of it?

user202362

@Shog9

Get a better browser

user202362

4:29 AM

@google, please write a better browser for us poor internet abusers

user202362

omg shog I flagged you

user202362

clear it please thx

user202362

was trying on firefox ...

user202362

when you clicking hand is acting faster than your brain

user202362

@Shog9 SE doesn't test things on chrome?

user202362

4:36 AM

I can't see the flag on chrome too, I could see it on firefox and safari

user315433

Speaking of browsers, Chrome now throws 120 errors into console on every SE pageload: "Only secure origins are allowed (see: goo.gl/Y0ZkNV).";

user315433

Error originates in TamperMonkey code...

user315433

Not yet clear if it's TM itself or one of my scripts.

user315433

Apparently, this is what I get for being on beta channel (Chrome 51 now)

Chrome 50 throws 22 lines of error on "some kind of internal extension"

user315433

4:54 AM

Isn't it weird how that linked page emphasizes being draft etc., yet actual errors are thrown.

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bwDraco

@AndrewT. Only one warning under Firefox Developer Edition 49.0a2.

> 00:56:34.322 Use of getPreventDefault() is deprecated. Use defaultPrevented instead.1jquery.min.js:3:6598

user315433

I don't get it in chat, although TM scripts run here too. Perhaps it's some particular script of mine...

It's definitely Chrome bug... Native Messaging API..?

Oops, it's related to an extension I use, but still not sure what Native Messaging API has anything to do with it.

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user315433

5:02 AM

I get it when enabling a Tampermonkey extension that injects CSS styles.

It's hoverzoom extension (hover image to see full size) on my case, which does seem to manipulate CSS

Woot, both SE employees suddenly left the room

user315433

"Both"? There are still Grace and Jon and bluefeet and Dan and Tim...

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user315433

In my case, every script with grant GM_something throws 60 lines of errors.

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5:08 AM

"Both" is an overstatement.

user315433

Does not have to be CSS. It's just that GM_addStyle is the more common one. A script using GM_openInTab has the same issue.

user315433

So I disabled those two... hate losing custom styles and custom frontpage interface, but 120 errors on every page load is just stupid.

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@SmokeDetector salty

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user315433

5:21 AM

It's unusual for AU posts to arrive here, with the 5 min waiting period.

is there a good Questions/week query around?

user315433

@Quill data.stackexchange.com/avp/query/418726/…

I chopped up another query that looked just like that ;-; I need to improve my SQL

Thanks :)

user202362

6:20 AM

is there an application where I can find a formula of best fit through a seemining exponential line

user202362

matlab? mathematica?

Can't Excel do that?

user202362

right, thx

6:38 AM

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6:52 AM

Radiohead - Daydreaming

►

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7:14 AM

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7:41 AM

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7:57 AM

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9:05 AM

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9:41 AM

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9:51 AM

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The Happy Hour is right in the middle of my sleep hours. :/

10:56 AM

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11:38 AM

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11:54 AM

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12:14 PM

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1:00 PM

Google translate on Russian SE is just so ROFL

2:14 PM

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user311528

3:36 PM

@ArtOfCode Riker uses "There's a S duct taped to your back."

ArtOfCode uses "I got here first"!

??

Spamless nights

@UniversalIndicators ArtOfCode used Confuse!

Q: The feed is not showing. And cannot scroll through the questions

Confused

user311528

@ArtOfCode Riker uses uh, no.

user311528

3:37 PM

OBTW: VTC as unclear?

user311528

0

App Version: 1.0.85 Device Manufacturer: OnePlus Device Model: A0001 OS Version: 6.0.1 (64003595ee)

@RikerW ArtOfCode uses Close Vote :P

user311528

Riker uses thanks.

user311528

Riker uses "why are we fighting?"

ArtOfCode uses "not a clue"

3:40 PM

Unikitty uses sleep

throws giant S away

user311528

Riker uses "Okay. Can you donate rep for a bounty here?"

user311528

@UniversalIndicators Are you Unikitty?

user311528

@ArtOfCode sharpies defective on giant S

@RikerW yep

Uni always pings me

user311528

3:41 PM

oh

user311528

Are you in any way related to Telkitty?

makes far too much sense :(

user311528

?

@RikerW Nope.

user311528

okay

user311528

3:42 PM

@ArtOfCode ?

@RikerW not even close

user311528

okay

Hey mse bugs

@RikerW using names that always begin with Uni. Too much sense :(

Reports tomorrow

user311528

3:43 PM

@ArtOfCode oh

user311528

Now any rep donations? link. If not, brb posting another bounty.

@RikerW that message already makes sense to me, so...

user311528

Are you having a existential crisis?

user311528

0/10 very irritating.

user311528

brb finding home address to drone-mail ice water to your face

3:45 PM

Well, it tells you that you've made some feedback, and it says that you haven't changed the score.

@RikerW Upvoted already, sorry

user311528

@ArtOfCode uses "Confuse!" It's somewhat effective.

user311528

@PhMgBr Not upvote, bounty.

Ohohohohoho no

user311528

okay

user311528

3:46 PM

I was reluctant to because it would take me < 200.

user311528

brb gtg

user311528

bai

\o

4:06 PM

LOL

sd k

and gone

user315433

Are there no more sciences left to create sites about? stackexchange.com/sites#science-newest No launches in this category since Economics, which was November 2014.

user315433

4:26 PM

I understand that proposals in social sciences fail pretty much every time.

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4:45 PM

@Meta s/proposals in //

user311528

@bjb568 aaaaahh cuteness overload

:3

user315433

@hichris123 Do you know what's the deal with Chrome 51 throwing "Only secure origins are allowed (see: goo.gl/Y0ZkNV)." on Tampermonkey extensions that use grant GM_?

user315433

The linked page goo.gl/Y0ZkNV is heavy on vague words and light on details or on what one could do to avoid this.

user315433

Andrew T and I discussed this starting here.

user311528

4:52 PM

@bjb568 thank you for ccoftd

What's ccoftd?

user311528

cute cat of the day

Oh :D

user311528

:D

user311528

noice cat avatar also

user311528

4:54 PM

btw, are either photo your cats?

user315433

@RikerW The avatar is a pretty common "funny cat" image, plus sunglasses. 1fotonin.com/image.php?pic=data/wallpapers/145/WDF_1867050.jpg

user311528

oh

user315433

Interestingly, the image search for the picture with sunglasses yields "Best guess for this image: brown tabby cat with blue eyes".

@RikerW It's me.

user311528

oh, cool. We have a mod who is actually a bird over on PPCG.

5:02 PM

:D

Bird good to eat!

user311528

@AlexA. would probably disagree.

!xkcd bjb

@AndrewT. Unrecognized command. Use !xkcd commands for a list of commands.

!xkcd hat

user311528

!xkcd commands

5:07 PM

Usage: !xkcd [command][ params( optional params)]

about – Get information about xkcdBot.
find [searchTerms] – Search for xkcd comics with Google (100 queries/day).
[comic ID] – Post oneboxed comic.
last – Onebox most recent xkcd.
blame( [user]) – Find out who's to blame for your maladies.
owner – Find out who owns xkcdBot.
status – Get xkcdBot's status.

user311528

!xkcd owner

@RikerW My owner is AstroCB, but you needn't worry about that because I am sentient.

I always forgetting unuseful commands...

user311528

!xkcd blame @xkcdBot

user315433

!xkcd find cat

5:08 PM

Yes you are! And you're sitting there! Hi, kitty!

user311528

!xkcd find fuzzy

In sixty million years aliens will know humans only by a fuzzy clip of a woman in an Axe commercial.

user311528

!xkcd find cute

And I even got out my adorable new netbook!

user311528

!xkcd find "cute cat"

5:09 PM

No results found.

user311528

!xkcd find cute cat

user315433

@xkcdBot del duplicate

user311528

@Meta I keep thinking you are a bot. Sorry.

2

user315433

I used to be.

user311528

5:10 PM

oh, you should talk to @Geobits. He is working on his sentience and passing his turing test.

user311528

He hasn't made it yet.

@Meta Hmm... bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=520765

user315433

TamperMonkey isn't mentioned... My confusion is about the "origin" in this case. What exactly is unsecure about a locally stored userscript?

Yeah, probably a bug.

@Meta Oh. Maybe crbug.com/589141 then.

user311528

hm, chrome stopped showing images in alert boxes for me

user311528

5:16 PM

everywhere, including SE

When were you guys going to crack down on insecure http by replacing that icon ^ with this:

? @hichris

JonasCz

@Undo Feature request for metasmoke: Live updates using websockets would be cool (like on question pages) - then I could just keep it open in a tab and immediately see new posts which might need flagging - thoughts ? Doable ?

@JonasCz this. So much this.

user315433

@bjb568 That's been a flag in Canary for a while.

user311528

@JonasCz yeah. I just attempted to flag 2 posts from smokedetector, both were deleted the second I flagged. >_>

5:21 PM

@Meta Yeah. It's planned for sometime in the future... too much breakage now though.

If you want the full history @bjb568... groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!topic/security-dev/…

user315433

@bjb568 ^ "Mark non-secure origins as non-secure" in chrome://flags

user315433

Exists in Chrome 51 beta, don't know about 50.

Works for me.

I'm on 52.

user315433

https is great and all, but @Doorknob's Chatception still doesn't support it. Well, I'm using its fork anyway, so...

user315433

5:55 PM

It seems a Personal Productivity mod decided to be more productive: hasn't visited the site since February 6. Now a former mod.

user315433

Prediction for 2020: the network has 250 sites, each with one mod, and the mod is Rory Alsop.

7:04 PM

7:29 PM

@bjb568 Look at this doofus's glasses. Hahaha! No no honey, I didn't mean you.

Q: Why do I need 2 reputation to post on Meta SE?

0

I have recently joined Meta SE to find that I cannot write questions, or post answers and therefore can't earn the reputation to start earning reputation. I understand that there is a 100 reputation bonus across all sites when you reach trusted user. The reputation limit for writing Questions a...

discussion privileges

Should've seen this coming.

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Q: The feed is not showing. And cannot scroll through the questions

7:52 PM

-1

App Version: 1.0.85 Device Manufacturer: OnePlus Device Model: A0001 OS Version: 6.0.1 (64003595ee)

bug android-app

@Hic does this not mean the rep requirement is still one?

Also @Hic is the perfect nick. I can't imagine why I didn't use it before.

@PhMgBr Well, that was probably a weird edge case -- it was submitted through the Android app, probably some API bug.

@PhMgBr You do realize @h + tab is a lot easier?