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Q: November 2016 Community Moderator Election RESULTS

@zaq How much was it in the last election?

I mean in the last last. I mean last, but not this recent last, the other last. Argh

user315433

27,321 stackoverflow.com/election/7

user315433

This is the first ever election with 30K voters.

user315433

Ooh, opavote now shows the threshold in a sensible way, not as a separate bar down below.

S.L. Barth

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Stack Overflow's 8th moderator election has come to a close, the votes have been tallied, and the 3 new moderators are: They'll be joining the existing crew shortly — please thank them for volunteering, and share your assistance and advice with them as they learn the ropes! For details on ...

user315433

8:05 PM

So, no retirements this time?

That's boring

And TBH I really prefer if people don't litter the answer boxes with CONGRATZ

Comments are fine and they take a click to purge if needed.

And they don't take much space.

But the answer box . . . come on man, we already know you want to congratulate him

user315433

Opavote site offers to recount ballots with a different method, but you can't change the number of winners there. Boo.

user315433

If they decide to call up 2 more (which seems to be the usual number to call up), it will be Andy and Samuel Liew.

user315433

Not obvious if this will be the choice, given that the field wasn't very deep this time. Running Spring 2017 election, to return to spring schedule, might be better.

user315433

But with 22 current moderators, one might think the law of diminishing returns is going to apply.

8:13 PM

The law of diminishing returns?

Oh.

I wasn't familiar with what it's called in English.

Neato

Bart

Here are your coveralls @AaronHall. Take this mop. And now go clean up this mess we created. :D

:D

user315433

8:34 PM

user315433

Squeezed the modchart horizontally by 0.5 for readability.

user315433

I'm tracking name changes as long as mods/employees are active, but not after that (so, 0xf7777777 stays)

user315433

Besides using logarithmic fit for number of voters, I used power law for other election stats.
My predictions were: 389803 eligible, 177861 visit site, 88339 visit election, 30837 vote.
Actual results were: 388531 eligible, 194203 visited site, 88587 visited election, 30277 voted.
I think I get a donut in reward. (Except for that "visited site" part...)

@zaq Dude, you're too good at this.

And I guess more people visited since it's fall.

And homewerks don't doz demselfs.

user315433

Those are visitors eligible to vote, so 150+ rep. Still can be homework, but...

8:49 PM

But they can't be much?

user315433

They can't be 1-rep 1-time askers, I meant.

user315433

@SmokeDetector notspam

user315433

9:15 PM

> Down-voting should be reserved for extreme cases. It's not meant as a substitute for communication and editing. Instead of voting down: ... If the question is duplicate or off-topic, flag it for moderator attention. - sez Help Center

user315433

Really, we aren't supposed to downvote off-topic posts?

user315433

And duplicates should be flagged for moderator attention?

Raises eyebrows

Hey everyone, SO help center is . . . being read.

user315433

Yeah, I was actually looking for something there that would say that votes are anonymous. No luck.

rene

9:40 PM

@AaronHall congrats with your diamond. Please make good use of it.

user315433

Fresh ideas for homepage redesign:

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superuser

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@rene thanks! :)

user315433

Seriously, where are satisfied customer testimonials?

user315433

Not on Meta, that's for sure.

10:01 PM

> Got my answer. +1, 10/10 would ask again.

user315433

Jeremy "fixed"/"corrected" the ballot file by ordering the submitted votes lexicographically, instead of chronologically.

user315433

Opavote goes further and aggregates identical ballots (as Jeremy mentioned earlier today). This makes it easy to find the most common ones:

cool!

user315433

627 voted: Aaron Hall, Samuel Liew, Bhargav Rao
583 voted: Aaron Hall, Bhargav Rao, Samuel Liew
366 voted: Aaron Hall, deceze, Samuel Liew

user315433

Go figure why the most common choice has a non-winning candidate as #2.

10:09 PM

Most common slate probably represents a type of voter. Not enough other slates/types of voters wanted him, apparently.

@zaq Isn't it because the votes in general are just not enough?

The fact that a pattern was common doesn't mean Samuel was first or second pick by many people.

Maybe he should try becoming people's favorite

Anonymous

@zaq I'd just like to clarify that the votes were not exactly ordered chronologically in the past either, so folks should avoid trying to draw conclusions from that old data.

@Jeremy became a blue name? I didn't notice.

A belated congrats

user315433

Since October 10, twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/785518355637792768

Oct 10, that explains it

I've been paying less attention to here in the past two months

Anonymous

10:13 PM

Thanks :)

user315433

Oct 10 = Dec 8, so it hasn't happened yet.

O.O

@smci: That's on MSO, where downvotes have a different meaning. I was talking about the main site - as I believe most people have been. — Jon Skeet 6 hours ago

Strauss–Howe generational theory

The Strauss–Howe generational theory, created by authors William Strauss and Neil Howe, identifies a recurring generational cycle in American history. Strauss and Howe lay the groundwork for the theory in their 1991 book Generations, which retells the history of America as a series of generational biographies going back to 1584. In their 1997 book The Fourth Turning, the authors expanded the theory to focus on a fourfold cycle of generational types and recurring mood eras in American history. They have since expanded on the concept in a variety of publications. The theory was developed to describe...

I received a notification that Jon Skeet posted a comment on a horrible MSO question of mine.

That's… great.

10:15 PM

Part of me says this is bullshit, part of me says they've done a good job explaining some stuff.

user315433

@bjb568 It's okay, you were new then. BTW you posted on the same day as my current network account was created.

@bjb568 Everyone has horrible stuff.

user315433

Hm, there is no place where the age of account is visible, right? Only site profiles, which come and go.

Now I would prolly try to go dip up zaq's, but I'll pass.

Since it's 2 a.m.

The worst part of my question is how many upvotes it has.

@M.A.R. Completely non-scientific.

10:17 PM

Not non-scientific, but without empirical data.

user315433

One of two people who answered became a mod, the other got deleted.

user315433

Answering bjb's questions is dangerous.

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Scientific stuff is to explain observations. And it explains observations well.

@zaq I'll have that in mind

user315433

API says I got merged in August 2015... that's news to me. api.stackexchange.com/docs/…

@M.A.R. It's non-falsifiable, so it's a useless theory.

Whatever happens to each generation, you can still pigeonhole them somehow.

10:20 PM

For varying definitions of useless

user315433

bjb's merge history is complicated: api.stackexchange.com/docs/…

rene

@bjb568 I tried to make sense of that question from smci but in my attempt to verify if I understood what they were after all I got was a snark, so I conclude I have no idea where they are complaining about.

@rene its obvios dey heit stackoerfloz naziz

Much easier to pick holes in the smallest details of what people do than to accept your faults.

Anonymous

@zaq You think that's bad? ;)

Anonymous

I liked starting new accounts to test the newer-user experience, but didn't want to permanently give up the reps.

10:31 PM

> Violation of backoff parameter

Why's it giving me that?

It still does that if I do it in an incognito window.

Anonymous

Hmm. Maybe you hammered reload a few too many times in close succession.

Meh. Works now. Borkey.

Anonymous

/me is trying to figure out how to find your IP from a recent message to check the logs.

Anonymous

Maybe the API logs are somewhere else. Ah, well.

Eh, whatever.

10:39 PM

Surprised there isn't an @bjb568 comment on parenting.stackexchange.com/a/27861.

user202362

user315433

You know, cats have less energy to jump around when they are older.

a down vote for this doesn't allow for free speech. I have no problem with a comment that says you disagree. — Willow Rex 2 hours ago

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

user202362

11:07 PM

do old cats suffer from alzheimer's?

user315433

11:32 PM

If you make enough annoying requests as a user we eventually just hire you and make you do them as revenge. Your move.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on November 22, 2016 at 11:31 PM

user202362

I don't feel any love today, all I can think of is Apex Predator Jerky

user315433

A fresh annoying request: add a custom field for spam flags... How do we stop users from using the "spam" flag when there is no spam? by Bohemian on meta.stackoverflow.com

Webpage updated to 1995. Finally, some SVG love. https://stackoverflow.com/company/logos

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on November 22, 2016 at 7:35 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

Just me or do I not see any SVGs there?

user315433

Yeah, I looked for them too. Maybe it's still in dev instance.

user315433

Tavern: where we discuss Nick's tweets.

user315433

11:39 PM

On second thought, I don't like the idea of a required custom thing added to spam flags. A major change in how flags are processed, including changing the API that has frozen since February 2014.

user315433

All because some folks flag incorrectly. Meh.

user315433

<-- 4,812 spam flags on Drupal, of them 4,812 helpful

user315433

PeterJ apparently quit spam flagging :( he's left with 3,909 helpful flags on Drupal.

Apparently I'm up to 2,5 now.

user315433

All helpful?