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7:01 PM

@LynnCrumbling well, yes, it is the only version I have running on this box and I was wondering if he linked directly to the url because that had one 404 in it and I expect access to go bÔrken if it sees one error....

Lance Roberts

Does anyone understand what the purpose is of someone posting spam about Tech Support hotline phone numbers?

rene

to get phone calls?

kick-back fee I suspect

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, phone number detected: ‘~!!!@<<<<help>>>>>@###$$$????//////“1-855-709-2847”&&****Epson printer tech support by dhvaj kasana on meta.stackexchange.com

Lynn Crumbling

@LanceRoberts Could be a third party being hired to promote the service. The service may not be aware of the means that they are using.

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, phone number detected: 1-855-806-6643 Quickbooks Technical Support phone number usa by John Linkan on meta.stackexchange.com

Lance Roberts

7:03 PM

Ok. At first I thought someone was trying to let people know about a secret hotline phone number they've found. I've put some of those out at sites that collect them, but it seemed weird to keep spamming it.

rene

@LanceRoberts should totally stop talking about hotline phone numbers... you're attracting spam

@SmokeDetector tpu-

Lynn Crumbling

Could be a guy that owns a business and went out and bought a piece of software that claims to get you more business by posting online. The user typed in a description, a phone number, and the application goes off and does evil stuff.

@rene Ooooooh! That's how it works????

rene

I see a connection...

It can't be a coincidence

Lynn Crumbling

:)

rene

I'm not a complot theorist but .....

SmokeDetector

7:09 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: @@@@@@ “1-855-709-2847”?????/////Epson printer tech support number by dhvaj kasana on stackoverflow.com

@LynnCrumbling Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector gone

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@LynnCrumbling Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector gone

user259867

Ooh, neat: stackexchange.com/about/malware

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

7:16 PM

@LynnCrumbling Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector gone

rene

Let me know if I should let it go ...

user259867

Let it Be.

user259867

You are just seeing the side-effect of SO gathering a lot of link traps and poor content that can't be effectively moderated anymore. These vampire sites have a much easier time lately getting ahead in the Google ranking by filtering the junk. Some background is here. — Hans Passant 7 hours ago

user259867

Yeah. Delete All the Things.

user259867

7:22 PM

I conjecture that Web Applications suffered so much in Google rank (more than any other SE site, it seems) because a noticeable percentage of posts are locked, unanswered, rejected migration from Super User, etc.

Braiam

@HomegrownTomato m? from where that comes from?

user259867

@Braiam SE serve this when detecting that their content is being proxied.

user259867

You'd have to navigate to a malicious site to see that, so I'd rather not test.

michaelpri

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

user259867

7:25 PM

By the way, I don't think that "proxy" is officially a verb... It seems the page author wasn't even sure if the correct -ing form is "proxying" or "proxing".

Braiam

@SmokeDetector gone

user259867

Is today the record phone support day ever?

Lynn Crumbling

It sounds like the OP is genuinely trying to help you. That doesn't mean that the advice being dished out is actually helpful, just that there is no malicious intent. Sometimes unhelpful advice is a function of how the question was (mis)interpreted or sometime an answerer just thinks that they have incite to provide, even if incorrect. If the user has exerted any amount of effort in trying to work with you, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt, regardless of what motives they may have. After all, you just may end up getting your problem solved... — Lynn Crumbling 54 secs ago

Braiam

@HomegrownTomato I think he used the rules for verbalizing substantives

or gerundizing

Lynn Crumbling

@Braiam Hey, if Google can do it...

Braiam

7:28 PM

Lynn Crumbling

IT invents a fair amount of socially-acceptable verbs, official or not. Google. Grep. Firewall.

rene

@LynnCrumbling Ok, next time I first rant in this room so you can write a sensible comment...

Louis

Oh wow... the answer does not even come close to dealing with the problems in the question, is also incorrect, and yet an upvote!

Lynn Crumbling

@Louis Not a python dev. Are you saying it deserves downvotes?

bummi

choose a close reason stackoverflow.com/q/30673799/1699210

Lynn Crumbling

7:31 PM

@rene Hahahahahaha. I'm just procrastinating from refactoring some c#.

@bummi so many! (to choose from)

bummi

@LynnCrumbling indeed

vaultah

@SmokeDetector tpu-

michaelpri

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@michaelpri Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector Oh John. And a profile picture! Spammers don't often give us those!

Louis

7:32 PM

@LynnCrumbling yes, it does.

Braiam

@SmokeDetector gone

Lynn Crumbling

@Ender A third party commented that the answer in question isn't beneficial and is actually incorrect. You have a recourse when that happens: You can point out that the answer is wrong. Over time, this leads to downvotes, which may encourage a self-delete. — Lynn Crumbling 9 secs ago

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/30611634/1699210 benign

user259867

7:47 PM

What am I supposed to do if an audit in Triage is a spam post I already flagged?

user259867

Apparently, skip is the only thing to do.

user259867

But skipping blatant spam also looks like I'm not paying attention...

bummi

@HomegrownTomato IIRC there is a question on Meta or SO Meta already about

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp-

user259867

Flagged as off-topic and passed. :)

user259867

7:51 PM

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A: Received an audit in Triage that I previously flagged as spam

I found one more spot where the filtering for spam posts needed to be added. I have pushed that to dev and it should be live in the next build. Let me know if you continue to see this happening.

user259867

I commented there.

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: f.uk this website .. I hate stack exchange and all others by kdsjfkdsjf on askubuntu.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu-

rene

From the Indian Hacker Team we are now down to the Iran Cyber Army.

user259867

I used Crossword Helper to find a possible meaning of f.uk, no luck.

cybermonkey

7:56 PM

spamming this again:

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Q: Automatically dismiss a chat message on clicking the notification

When I receive a reply/tag on chat, the 'notification bubble' must be clicked in order to dismiss the message: I have desktop notifications enabled, but however clicking the notification to go to the chat message does not dismiss it (from both within the same tab/window, and from other browser...

AstroCB

@Mooseman Fixed; thanks.

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, phone number detected: “((((”!“”1-855-709-2847))))) “”“” canon printer phone number customer services us (1-*855, 709, 2847).//##canon printer customer. Readymag by deepak on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, phone number detected: QuickBooks Customer Support 1-844-705-4441 Phone Number#QuickBooks Customer Support Phone Number by ravi kumar on meta.stackexchange.com

Mooseman

8:19 PM

@AstroCB +1

Lynn Crumbling

8:35 PM

Umm...

@rene @Louis Did that OP post a dup?

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Q: Python Script TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, list found

I'm writing a simple script to search a .txt document for a search word. The script so far will: • Prompt for a file name • Prompt for a word to search for The prompts work, followed by "TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, list found". I've read other posts on this error, but ...

python unicode typeerror raw-input

rene

hmmm, at least the How to Ask page was studied..

But it looks like it....

Louis

@LynnCrumbling Maybe the other one could be closed as dupe of this one because this one is better (not great but better)

Lynn Crumbling

@Louis I agree, but it sort of encourages the behavior :-/

@Louis Unfortunately, from the OP's point of view, it worked.

Louis

Yeah, I see.

Lynn Crumbling

(regardless of how we deal with it.)

Louis

8:38 PM

I did not think this through. Maybe this one should be closed as dupe with an invitation to edit the other one.

rene

close voted the older one as a dupe of this one

too much drama

Lynn Crumbling

^ hahaha

Andrew T.

at last I got close vote privilege both on SO and android.se

Louis

oh well..

Lynn Crumbling

I'm okay with that, as long as someone puts a "we've closed the old one, but please don't ever do this again" comment on the new one.

@AndrewT. congrats!

@Louis @rene adding that comment now.

Louis

8:41 PM

@AndrewT. Now take the trash out.

@LynnCrumbling Thanks.

rene

OK

Andrew T.

will do... open review queue, 9.5k, okay.jpg

rene

@LynnCrumbling I'll stash mine

Lynn Crumbling

@rene paste it for my amusement

(here)

rene

I let you know that I close voted your other question as a duplicate of this one. Next time consider improving your other question.

I can be nice...

user259867

8:43 PM

@AndrewT. Prepare to be poked by @hichris123 when he goes on a CV spree.

Braiam

@rene LIES!!

bjb568

Taking SAT Math 2 and literature tomorrow…

Lynn Crumbling

Wow. I did it without bold:

I know that it appears that you got further by posting a dup, but please don't do this again. Normally, this question would be closed as a dup of your existing question, but this one is worded better and seems to have helped. In the future, just make edits to your existing question. — Lynn Crumbling 56 secs ago

Ugh.

michaelpri

@bjb568 I'm assuming you've taken the regular ones already?

rene

@AndrewT. consider filtering on the tags from the cleanup: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/295117/…

bjb568

8:44 PM

Regular SAT? Not this year yet.

michaelpri

Oh, I would've thought that you'd take that first

hichris123

@HomegrownTomato heh

rene

since when do I have a daily vote limit?

user259867

What? 50 close votes, 40 up down?

Shog9

@rene it's a punishment. For using all your votes.

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user259867

8:48 PM

Should be a badge for that.

Braiam

@HomegrownTomato there's one for up/down-votes, but not close/delete/reopen/undelete votes

rene

Well, thanks for that...

user259867

Sorry, misunderstood. Yes, there should be one for 30 delete votes in a day, too.

Lynn Crumbling

@Ender Sure, that would be a fine idea... Roomba would come along and delete it in a few days anyway (closed, and negative score question + answer), but cleaning up after yourself is always good :) — Lynn Crumbling 16 secs ago

user259867

Herostratus would be a good name for that.

rene

8:54 PM

Pfff, I survived 20 review tasks in triage...

@LynnCrumbling I'm still having fun here

Braiam

GIMME FREAKING TRIAGE FILTER NAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111ELEVEN

Reviewing java questions I want not :(

rene

Crap is tagless

hichris123

If people didn't already see... Jeff's doing an AMA.

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hichris123

9:47 PM

reddit.com/r/programmerchat/comments/38pggs/… ... confirmed that this is from @HomegrownTomato. :P

user259867

Meh. I'm better at picking usernames than that dude.

user259867

And questions to ask, for that matter.

bjb568

Heh

Andrew T.

the sticky vote buttons...

user259867

inb4 userscript that makes them static again

hichris123

9:50 PM

@HomegrownTomato Although who would choose SO... and Math? Strange question.

(they both do have horrible questions... but not many mathematicians spend a ton of time on SO)

user259867

@hichris123 Two biggest sites by QPD, by far. Even now, when many schools are out, Math gets more QPD than Super User, Server Fault, Ask Ubuntu and Cross Validated combined (these are the next four sites in QPD.

user259867

... and #7 in QPD is Stack Overflow на русском.

hichris123

@HomegrownTomato But still... not many users are very active on both sites.

user259867

The first user network-wide to earn 100K on two non-meta sites did it on SO and Math.

Alexis King

What leads you to believe any relation was implicated in that question, anyway?

user259867

9:56 PM

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Q: Bad Guy Gets Killed With Paper

This particular scene, the killer comes to the house (as a guest???)/and gets stripped (without question) to show they have no weapons Meets head bad guy (oriental???) and kneels then creates paper dart, blows/throws it, and kills bad dude! Maybe fairly recently. Past few years???

identify-this-movie

user259867

That site also has a question quality problem, I'm afraid...

Alexis King

Using any fewer than three question marks in a row on Movies.SE is clearly a syntax error.

Andrew T.

Sites which accept identification-request do usually have quality problem, I'm afraid...

user259867

Is this spam or what? stackexchange.com/users/6423809/user23280?tab=activity

user259867

Well I can't tell if they are selling anything, but this is just weird.

Alexis King

10:00 PM

Looks like spam to me.

Andrew T.

abusive/spam, either way, burn

Alexis King

!!/addblu cooking.stackexchange.com/users/35977/user23280

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@AlexisKing User blacklisted (35977 on cooking.stackexchange.com).

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, phone number detected: ~~~!!!@@@##$$$$%%%%% “1-855-709-2847”@@@@@@ Brother printer technical support by larry page on meta.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector gone

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: "Be like" usage by user124222 on english.stackexchange.com

bjb568

10:17 PM

Necesito comprar una calculadora. ¿Cuál quiero comprar?

… I think that's right (I need to buy a calculator. Which one should I buy?)

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[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: What are the steps of this command using ; || and && by R0tten on unix.stackexchange.com

bjb568

I'm thinking probably TI nspire.

user259867

@bjb568 Parson my English, but for what purpose?

bjb568

To use.

For maths.

user259867

Different calculators are better at different kinds of calculations.

bjb568

10:22 PM

For like calculuses and stuffs.

user259867

And them being allowed vs not allowed on exams depends on the functions they have.

user259867

E.g., it's pretty usual to find a college calculus class where TI-83 and TI-84 are okay, but TI-89 and TI-92 are verboten.

bjb568

Really, they care? I've never seen people care outside of the SAT, but even that is pretty lax.

user259867

The basic difference is whether they do symbolic derivatives/integrals. If they do, a lot of calculus exam problems become pointless.

bjb568

Huh, but there are no-calculator portions of exams…

But anyway, I'd want to have a powerful one for home use.

user259867

10:26 PM

Long story short: TI-83/84 (there's very little difference) is the most common type in use in college math classes. It plots things, and can do numeric integrals, but does not do symbolic math.

user259867

College Board issues aside, I have fond memories of TI-BASIC, writing in it a 3D graphing engine and a stock market analyzer. With enough patience, I could make anything ... but friends. (Although with my chatterbot experiments, I certainly tried.)

user259867

@bjb568 If you have a computer, why would you want that?

bjb568

Ok, I'll get a fancy one and get TI-84 if needed for class.

@HomegrownTomato It's easier.

user259867

@bjb568 desmos.com is easier

bjb568

needs more buttons

user259867

10:29 PM

And cloud.sagemath.com for serious stuff.

user259867

The only reason I own a calculator at all is so that I can tell students which buttons to push. Wouldn't think of using it for my own purposes.

bjb568

But I like calculators…

Braiam

10:52 PM

@bjb568 "I need a calculator. Which I want to buy?"???

the correct way to ask is "¿Cual deberia comprar?", here should becomes deberia and obviously I cut down the word count because spanish needs less words: which one = cual; should I = deberia

hichris123

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