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@yellowantphil I'll meet you at the Whole Foods deli at the corner of 28th and Pearl for a free taste test of a dozen delectable coleslaws. You will never, ever be the same again.

yellowantphil

@tchrist can I just go to my Whole Foods?

tchrist

@yellowantphil Probably.

It's just that mine is the largest in the world and so has a broader selection. It even has stuff for gents, too.

yellowantphil

fancy

tchrist

Please stop shopping at Walmart. They do not sell food. This may be the ultimate source of your confusion.

yellowantphil

who shops at Wal-Mart? :o

ASCIIThenANSI

5:18 PM

@tchrist My name isn't a lie. ASCII originated in 1963, and ANSI codes were introduced in the 1970s.

My name doesn't describe any programming joke. It's a historical fact.

tchrist

@ASCIIThenANSI Your name is a lie. ANSI is not an encoding.

ASCIIThenANSI

@tchrist I never said it was.

yellowantphil

it's a standards institute

but is it pre- or post- 1963?

ASCIIThenANSI

ANSI escape code

In computing, ANSI escape code (or escape sequences) is a method using in-band signaling to control the formatting, color, and other output options on video text terminals. To encode this formatting information, it embeds certain sequences of bytes into the text, which the terminal looks for and interprets as commands, not as character codes. ANSI codes were introduced in the 1970s and became widespread in the minicomputer/mainframe market by the early 1980s. They were used by the nascent bulletin board system market to offer improved displays compared to earlier systems lacking cursor movement...

^ This is what I'm talking about

tchrist

NANSIBOYZ

yellowantphil

5:19 PM

\e[91mMy favorite codes\e[m

tchrist

by Neil Gaiman.

use Unicode || die;

If I were a termcap, la di daddidadidadidadidadidah.

2

yellowantphil

how am I supposed to color my text then?

or you want all the escape codes to be mapped to the PUA

tchrist

@yellowantphil If God had meant for text to be colored, he would have made your cones work at night.

yellowantphil

I refuse to look at un-colored text

tchrist

I think there are new emoji color modifiers for Black Santa.

yellowantphil

5:24 PM

can I use them on letters?

tchrist

@yellowantphil That's racist.

yellowantphil

I am compelled to write my own vim syntax highlighting for every arbitrary file format we use at work

tchrist

It looks better as white on black. Color just confuses. It also lies.

yellowantphil

nonsense

ASCIIThenANSI

@tchrist I'm going to make all the errors green and the good outputs red.

tchrist

5:29 PM

Plus it doesn't support gold leaf or silver leaf, so no illuminator worthy of the name would touch the damned stuff, only those tawdry rubicators splashing their bloody mess all over like some slasher flick is the best you can hope for.

yellowantphil

wait, you want metal plating on your text?

256-color xterm isn't good enough?

tchrist

@yellowantphil Gold leaf is the gold standard you know.

SHINY

yellowantphil

color 220 is goldish

or even color 3, depending on how you set your terminal colors

tchrist

Please consult the Book of Kells, and not some fake photo of it either. When vim can do that, I will consider it.

yellowantphil

I don't see how vim is going to wrap your letters in metal

tchrist

5:33 PM

@yellowantphil No: you cannot use RGB to make gold leaf.

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil 3D printer...

tchrist

It needs to reflect light.

yellowantphil

@tchrist but you can try!

tchrist

Reality wins again.

yellowantphil

boo

ASCIIThenANSI

5:34 PM

@tchrist What's reality?

yellowantphil

it's Matrices all the way down

tchrist

Gold glisters.

I also find vim to be poor in the 390nm color range.

yellowantphil

have you had cataract surgery? do you point a spectrometer at your screen?

tchrist

Its flashlight function is poor in fog.

I have seen colors your mind cannot imagine.

yellowantphil

@tchrist reddish green?

tchrist

5:39 PM

Yes.

yellowantphil

> Though usually invisible, under some conditions children and young adults can see ultraviolet down to wavelengths of about 310 nm

tchrist

And bluish gold.

yellowantphil

bah how many posts have I made? timeouts abound

hmm wait, new rumors appear on Wikipedia:

ok, reorder those last messages

tchrist

Get some violet LEDs.

yellowantphil

and then what?

ASCIIThenANSI

5:41 PM

@yellowantphil Then get a bunch of combos with them. Then you have ULTRA VIOLET.

tchrist

Get people to try to photograph them with their "phones".

It is quite amusing to watch them try.

yellowantphil

I should take out the UV/IR filter from my old digital camera

tchrist

Lens glass itself stops UV.

yellowantphil

hmm well it will work for IR still

tchrist

Yes.

You need special glass for hand-held UV.

Or a UV flash.

Both are dear.

yellowantphil

5:44 PM

strip the coating off a fluorescent light

tchrist

That's . . . complicated.

yellowantphil

or just buy a blacklight

tchrist

I think you wil not be happy.

The glass still filters.

You get MUCH MUCH more UV in sunshine than ever a blacklight will produce. You still have a problem.

Again, you need a special lens.

yellowantphil

or just go outside?

and use my telescope to focus the light until I almost set the camera on fire

I'm mainly only interested in near-IR imaging anyway, which is easier

tchrist

You need a visible light cut filter, a tripod, a very long exposure, and a static subject.

Otherwise you need special glass.

yellowantphil

5:48 PM

I was going to do all of that for IR imaging, but I don't want to spend the money and time

I have a crazy plan that would probably work but isn't worth doing

tchrist

Yeah.

IR is a lot easier.

I trust you know our Norwegian friend's site?

naturfotograf.com/index2.html

Look at his UV flowers. So awesome.

yellowantphil

I have no Norwegian friends, and know of no sites

lag makes things very slow

tchrist

Latency allergies suck.

yellowantphil

they route my traffic through California, or Virginia, or somewhere

tchrist

All You Ever Wanted to Know About Digital UV and IR Photography, But Could Not Afford to Ask, by Bjørn Rørslett

yellowantphil

5:56 PM

^ can't afford is right

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: greatly covered with age less skin beauty by peginbryan on math.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

ASCIIThenANSI

Now if you do math, you look younger? It keeps getting crazier every day...

SmokeDetector

6:20 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Is the Million Songs Dataset available in .tsv or .csv format? by Andrew on stackoverflow.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector ignore... "the result was a bunch of question marks:"

SmokeDetector

@2mkgz Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

yellowantphil

^ does that mean I can post spam as an answer to that question now?

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil You might've been able to, if you didn't tell everyone.

yellowantphil

nooo how will I promote my shady products now?

ASCIIThenANSI

6:30 PM

@yellowantphil You'll have to use...

A SPAM ROOM!

thunderclaps

yellowantphil

mmm spam

I should start an online business selling Spam

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil You could call it 'Spamazon'

2

yellowantphil

ASCIIThenANSI@gmail.com will be my first email target

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Yeah! And you'll never know the password is 'abc123'! But don't tell @yellowantphil.

Wait a minute...

yellowantphil

uh oh, straighten up. A mod is here

user259867

6:47 PM

Based on the presence of email, I decided this is spam.

ASCIIThenANSI

@2mkgz Yes it is.

@2mkgz Should we flag it?

OK, he is clearly a spammer. That is his only post, which is an ad for whatever thing he's talking about.

user259867

Mythology is in private beta.

ASCIIThenANSI

@2mkgz Ooh... Interesting.

So what's new with the rest of the world?

Mooseman

7:06 PM

@ASCIIThenANSI The Internet works :D

ASCIIThenANSI

@Mooseman You don't say?!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: Is there opensource crypto-currency exchanges engine? by user25253 on bitcoin.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

^ Not sure what to make of this...

rene

@ASCIIThenANSI I would leave it as a mod is already aware of it

bjb568

Kewl bio teacher has an apple watch!

Looks so kewl!

Makes her look like she's not a senior citizen!

Also, functional.

ASCIIThenANSI

7:13 PM

@bjb568 What's so fancy about sticking your grandpa's Rolex into fruit? I did it to see what this 'Apple watch' craze was all about, and everyone looked at me weird. Is it that cool?

@bjb568 Welcome to the future.

bjb568

me welcamuu!

ASCIIThenANSI

7:25 PM

This is the most awkward silence I have ever (not) witnessed.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL SKYPE FOE UBUNTU 15.04 by Ile Atanasov on askubuntu.com

Sam

@ASCIIThenANSI breaks silence by randomly deciding to stop lurking (for a few minutes)

user259867

user259867

You see, that's the issue with mythology...

Alexis King

7:41 PM

@ASCIIThenANSI Your avatar is precisely a @hichris123 shade of fuchsia, and it's still throwing me off.

ASCIIThenANSI

@2mkgz So everything?

hichris123

@AlexisKing How about @SantaClaus, hmm?

ASCIIThenANSI

@AlexisKing It's also symmetrical along 8 different axes, and has the same small icon part 8 different times.

Mooseman

@2mkgz Do you have mods yet?

Alexis King

@hichris123 Santa's a bit purplier and is evidently not tchrist.

SmokeDetector

7:45 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: How to repair an overclocked microsdcard? by TheCrazyLex on unix.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

^ Already closed

hichris123

hm hmm hmmm what's new?

ASCIIThenANSI

@hichris123 My new emoticon:

: |

JonasCz

cv-plz offsite stackoverflow.com/questions/27843177/…

hichris123

:P

ASCIIThenANSI

7:47 PM

@hichris123 :P indeed.

rene

Popcorn time: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/254529/report-a-moderator

ASCIIThenANSI

@rene It's closed now.

But hang on - let's go find some more bad posts! C:<

rene

Yeah! Oded stepped in waaay to soon ;)

hichris123

> Welcome to the Git Large File Storage
Early Access Program
...

You aren't in yet, but keep your eyes open as we'll be sending out invitations over the summer.

cky

@AlexisKing This is why I don't use an identicon. ;-)

I just use a unicon instead. ;-)

rene

7:51 PM

@hichris123 Wonder what will be large...maybe the screensize they support to access their file storage?

hichris123

@rene :P github.com/blog/1986-announcing-git-large-file-storage-lfs

ASCIIThenANSI

@rene 'Git Large'... gasps They're making Git t-shirts in large sizes!

user259867

@Mooseman On Mythology? It only exists for a few hours.

user259867

The issue is that it seems hard to encounter real problems in this area.

user259867

But the site may still work. I'm optimistic.

Mooseman

7:54 PM

@2mkgz Didn't realize it was that new.

@2mkgz I got that. Mods can edit that.

ASCIIThenANSI

@2mkgz No one can really tell.

rene

Ok, Oded is called corrupt....you better don't do that...

ASCIIThenANSI

@cky It's beautiful.

Nick Alexeev

All of the sudden, an account was created for me on a certain stack. I didn't initiate that. How/why could that have happened?

rene

@NickAlexeev do you have an se account or a google account?

ASCIIThenANSI

7:57 PM

@NickAlexeev Which one?

Maybe someone moved a question of yours, and it auto-created so you could gain rep/be notified of comments/etc.

cky

@ASCIIThenANSI You should make your own! unicornify.appspot.com

rene

@NickAlexeev I see none of that in your network account

Nick Alexeev

@ASCIIThenANSI This one. Yes, I'm a native Russian speaker with a distinctive last name. But I don't recall creating an account there.

rene

> Q&A for лингвистов, этимологов, и энтузиастов русского языка

Joined 1 year ago, last seen today

cky

@NickAlexeev Did you use russ.hashcode.ru in the past?

rene

8:00 PM

@NickAlexeev On your network profile it says that the account was created a year ago

cky

@rene Given that rus.stackexchange.com is only a day old, that means it's an import of a russ.hashcode.ru account.

rene

Ah, OK

That should explain it...

ASCIIThenANSI

@cky Nah, as I said:

19 mins ago, by ASCIIThenANSI

@AlexisKing It's also symmetrical along 8 different axes, and has the same small icon part 8 different times.

cky

@ASCIIThenANSI Ah, thought you were talking about my avatar rather than your identicon.

ASCIIThenANSI

@cky No, I was saying your avatar was beautiful. I just like my current one better, is all.

Nick Alexeev

8:04 PM

@cky I was signed up for a stack-looking site about Russian language. But I don't see any trace of that in my e-mail. This might have to remain a mystery.

cky

@NickAlexeev Like I said, that "stack-looking site about Russian language" might have been russ.hashcode.ru. hashcode.ru has been acquired by Stack Exchange, and its sites have recently been migrated to our platform.

rene

@cky I assume that is not yet in SEDE?

cky

@rene The public SEDE's data is refreshed once in a while. It won't have something quite as new as this.

user259867

@cky Except for the math site, of course.

rene

OK

cky

8:08 PM

@2mkgz I have a feeling (though don't quote me on this) that it will be gotten around to.

user259867

Hm, sezn.ru redirects to ru.stackoverflow.com instead of stackexchange.com. In particular, sezn.ru/sites throws an error.

ASCIIThenANSI

If I am the owner of a room, can I delete it?

rene

Bill doesn't like flags?

There are over 1 million questions on Stack Overflow with no answers. Please don't flag these. — Bill the Lizard ♦ 11 mins ago

user259867

What's another million flags for Bill? Come on, he's getting lazy close to retirement.

ASCIIThenANSI

@2mkgz Flag ALL the things?

rene

8:17 PM

Let's flag all the answered ones?

cky

@ASCIIThenANSI Rooms can't be deleted, but they can be deactivated.

ASCIIThenANSI

No. For every question, generate a random number from 0-9. Then:
0: Leave a comment
1: Flag it as unclear
2: Flag it as spam
3: Flag it with moderator attention, but random letters in the reason
4: Downvote
5: Upvote
6: Link it in any chatroom
7: Answer it (content does not matter)
8: Edit it
9: Flag it for whatever reason you want

rolls die 6.

rene

OK, I think I'll submit a pull request for Smokey with that logic in it...

ASCIIThenANSI

@rene This could be a fun game. All we have to do is replace all the things that affect other users with other things. Gimme a minute here...

The Chat.SE Official RNG Game
Generate a random number from 0-9. Then if it's:
0, go join a random room.
1, ask for a cool link from the person other than you who last talked, and visit it (if you want.)

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[ SmokeDetector ] Url in title: Webmaster Tools shows URL errors linked from com.example.www/:http by vegemite4me on webmasters.stackexchange.com

Andy

8:29 PM

spam stackoverflow.com/a/29929136/189134

rene

gone

yellowantphil

@Andy just realized that I flagged that without really reading it. Good thing you weren't trolling me :-|

ASCIIThenANSI

The Chat.SE Official RNG Game
Generate a random number from 0-9. Then if it's:
0, go join a random room.
1, ask for a cool link from the person other than you who last talked, and visit it (if you want.)
2, wait, what's 2? Re-roll the die.
3, find a random post and reply to it.
4, leave the room.
5, share something cool.
6, share a secret (of yours!)
7, it's your lucky day! Pick any action.
8, Show off something of yours.
9, Pick a user and play Tic-Tac-Toe with them (with some ASCII art.)

Tic-Tac-Toe board

rene

0

yellowantphil

if six people get upset with Jon Skeet, can they delete all his answers as spam?

^ I am going to do no such thing

cky

8:40 PM

@yellowantphil Yes, but other users can contest those flags.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Webmaster Tools shows URL errors linked from com.example.www/:http by ColinMcDermott on webmasters.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

roll roll 9.

Who wants to play?

 | |
-----
 | |
-----
 | |

cky

 X | X | X
---+---+---
 X | X | X
---+---+---
 X | X | X

2

^ I win!

ASCIIThenANSI

@cky omg ur such a n00b it was lag stupid map my mouse is broken n00b hacker

cky

Lol.

ASCIIThenANSI

8:44 PM

@cky wut nau ur laffing @ mi i will report u 2 admin ur so meen

roll roll 9.

 X |   |
---+---+---
   | X |
---+---+---
   |   | O

Doorknob

   |   |
---+---+---
   | X |
---+---+---
   |   | O

Edit your message instead of posting a new one so as to not clog the chatroom. :P

user259867

Vi and Vim site finally has moderators

user259867

... and Doorknob isn't one of them.

bjb568

 X |   |
---+---+---
 V | X |
---+---+---
   |   | O

yellowantphil

there were so many sites that had vim questions already

Doorknob

8:47 PM

@2mkgz Oooh yay finally! \o/

yellowantphil

bjb wins!

Alexis King

So how long before a tic-tac-toe bot is unceremoniously forced upon us?

2

yellowantphil

isn't there one already?

there's the hangman bot

ASCIIThenANSI

roll roll 6.

I invented this game and already people like it.

     X |C: |
    ---+---+---
     V | X |  J
    ---+---+---
     M |   | O

yellowantphil

!comp random number between 0 and 9

bjb568

8:50 PM

@ASCIIThenANSI you can't ping with that

ASCIIThenANSI

@bjb568 It appears so.

yellowantphil

doesn't bjbot do !comp?

bjb568

yeah

yellowantphil

I didn't get a comp!

bjb568

 X |C: |
---+---+---
 V | X | J
---+---+---
   |   | O

ASCIIThenANSI

8:55 PM

@bjb568 I edited my other board.

bjb568

 X |C: |
---+---+---
 V | X |  J
---+---+---
 M | N | O

yellowantphil

 X |C: | 🐱
---+---+---
 V | X |  J
---+---+---
 M | N | O

2

ASCIIThenANSI

   X
     X |C: | 🐱
    ---+---+---
     V | X |  J
    ---+---+---
     M | N | O

There. I win.

yellowantphil

ASCII wins :o

ASCIIThenANSI

Muahahaha...

OK, new roll.

roll roll 8.

What can I show off without it being spam? Hmm...

Forget it. Re-roll.

SmokeDetector

8:59 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: What are the tax regulations and ramifications of personal loans? by Jason Rappaport on money.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user.

:3372802 Blacklisted user.

ASCIIThenANSI

roll roll 0.

yellowantphil

Smokey helps me get the Citizen Patrol badges everywhere

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Yay, Smokey!

yellowantphil

9:04 PM

back from your random chat room?

bjb568

yellowantphil

^ need a transcription. corporate filters frown upon whatever that is

although "need" is a little strong

Doorknob

it's a die

yellowantphil

where every face of the die has a picture of bjb

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Yes. Want the link?

yellowantphil

9:09 PM

@ASCIIThenANSI this place is random enough for me already, thanks

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil Haha

roll roll 3.

@yellowantphil That would be awesome.

roll roll 5.

Ice.

hichris123

mindspring.com/~mfpatton/Tissues.htm

Doorknob

> Several of them have died of laughter-induced heart attacks.

user259867

9:30 PM

Can you specify the shape of the cloud in which you put the file? — 2mkgz 18 secs ago

user259867

Not sure if spam seed, let's wait...

user259867

SPAM superuser.com/a/907299

user259867

and the question is spam seed

user259867

Yeah, I shouldn't have commented.

yellowantphil

how do you flag the question then?

Doorknob

9:33 PM

By clicking the "flag" button?

yellowantphil

but the question isn't spam per se

bjb568

independent.ie/irish-news/…

> "I don't consider myself extreme - not at all," she said. "It is society that has moved. Not so far in the past, most people would have shared my views.
"My views only seem extreme because society has moved away from God's principles."

wat

user259867

@yellowantphil Its sole purpose is to promote a service by having an pre-arranged answer attached to it. So, it's spam.

yellowantphil

call the spambulance 🚑

six users on SO are named Spam

if I leave 10 comments on the spam answer, I could get the Commenter badge

should I spam a spammer? hmmmmmm

they allow -1 as a comment again?

ASCIIThenANSI

9:53 PM

@2mkgz Boo. Spammer accepts his own spam.

Sue

Hi friends-I'm here with another "how does this work and did I do it right?" questions...

ASCIIThenANSI

@yellowantphil So tempting I may create a user to ask fake spam comments...

@Sue What's the problem?

rene

@Sue Let's have it... while we battle spam on superuser.com

Frank

lol

Sue

@ASCIIThenANSI I found something offensive, to me anyway, in the chat sandbox. I checked the flag options which were flag as spam or offensive, or flag for moderator. I flagged as offensive and now it has a blue rectangle beside it. What happens next?

Frank

9:56 PM

ohai sue

Sue

I'd have let it be but that's a public room.

@Frank Hiya! Long time no see :)

rene

@Sue either 10K-ers will declare the flag valid/not-valid or unsure or SE staff