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3:00 PM
maybe yerba mate is šŸµ
 
A mí no me gusta una hierba que me mate.
 
to me a hierba does not please me that... umm...
ā›¾ ← this does not look like yerba mate
 
Do not go to Google Translate for advice, for it will tell you both yes and would you like cream with that?
I like no killer grass.
 
too late
is yerba mate a killer grass?
 
No.
 
3:04 PM
thatā€™s good, because Iā€™m already drinking it
 
I was referring to some hypothetical herb/grass that should happen to kill me.
I donā€™t know whether it exists, but I donā€™t like it.
 
youā€™re in Colorado. you can get murderous grass on every street corner
and you are making Oklahoma nervous, sharing a border
 
Explaining a joke is a lot like dissecting a frog: itā€™s tedious and messy and by the time youā€™re done, the frogā€™s dead.
 
your jokes make sense mainly to you
 
Young lady pointing at her young manā€™s newly revealed penis of non-brutal size. ā€œAnd just who do you think youā€™re going to please with that thing?ā€

Young man: ā€œMe.ā€
 
3:09 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: CS:GO SRCDS and iptables (firewall) by Idolw Szutrab on superuser.com
 
Why would somebody pay not just good money but a ruinous tax for something they can grow in their back yard or greenhouse?
 
maybe they donā€™t like getting visits from the feds
my font has a wholly inadequate glyph for U+1F60B FACE SAVOURING DELICIOUS FOOD → šŸ˜‹
 
@yellowantphil Trust me: that isnā€™t going to happen.
 
All I see in this tab is a wall of text and the word "penis".
 
@tchrist I have no aspirations of that sort anyway
@JasonC I can add more unicode spam if you want
 
3:13 PM
My next-door neighbor has a couple of dozen non-psychoactive hemp plants heā€™s breeding for research purposes. He keeps his permit handy because his wife is nervous. However, heā€™s a respected, published researcher and I donā€™t think it is going to happen. Still, it is amusing to live next door to a pot jungle.
 
Yes, mine is quite disappointing as well.
 
@JasonC it looks like a goofball. I was hoping for something closer to the Taster of Tasterā€™s Choice
 
@JasonC Kinda jumps out at you do, doesnā€™t it?
 
@tchrist Yeah. Good thing it wasn't brutally sized.
 
Whatā€™s the emoji for MEMBRUM VIRILE, anyway?
 
3:15 PM
I barely dodged it as is.
 
@tchrist šŸ†
 
Et voilà.
 
@tchrist I dunno, I my friend already spent significant time yesterday drawing penises in the box at shapecatcher.com with no good results.
2
 
the authorities have spoken. Although they think that emoji == Appleā€™s glyphs
 
3:18 PM
@yellowantphil Slow page load, twitchy animated header, next.
 
@JasonC you already got the highlight anyway
 
Dammit, starwall context fail:
:(
 
The starboard never lies.
As any sailor can tell you: the starboard is always right.
 
Help! I need an adult!
 
wrong chat room
 
@Unihedron what do you do with its results?
 
hold on
Try it again now. It now comes with the name of the review type. Go to http://stackoverflow.com/review/{low-quality-posts/suggested-edits/close/reopen‌​}]/{reviewTaskId} depending on the type and you get to see which reviewers failed audits where your post was in the ticket.
2
 
looks like I was a review audit
 
Roombatron5000 passed an audit of my post!
This user didn't.
 
it shows someone elseā€™s suggested edit on my post in that query
 
3:42 PM
It also shows tag wikis where you hold a majority of content over.
 
so tag wikis that I wrote?
 
Which, by definition, is indeed your post because that's how tags works as CW posts, I guess.
Yep.
 
I think doesnā€™t get much traffic
I have a lot more suggested edits than what the query shows
 
@Unihedron \R is much better than \N.
 
@tchrist What's \R?
 
3:44 PM
oh, it only shows other peopleā€™s suggested edits and my tag wikis
 
It's already covered by The Reference. I made those three constructs because they weren't covered already.
268
A: Reference - What does this regex mean?

aliteralmindThe Stack Overflow Regular Expressions FAQ If you want to truly learn regular expressions, then read Jeffrey Friedl's "Mastering Regular Expressions" from beginning to end (3rd edition, on Amazon) Quantifiers Zero-or-more: *:greedy, [*?:reluctant] [Link needed], *+:possessive, Greedy v r...

At last, an interesting regex question after flowing in the stream of crap for weeks!
3
A: Matching a^n b^n c^n for n > 0 with PCRE

UnihedronQtax trick (The mighty self-referencing capturing group) ^(?:a(?=a*(\1?+b)b*(\2?+c)))+\1\2$ This solution is also named "The Qtax trick" because it uses the same technique as from "vertical" regex matching in an ASCII "image" by Qtax. The problem in question burns down to a need to assert ...

Night!
 
Night!
 
Thanks!
 
@Unihedron \R is (?>\r\n|\v).
 
@tchrist your regular expressions never look anything like the regexes Iā€™ve used
 
3:49 PM
So it is a nonbacktracking CRLF grapheme or a code point with the vertical white space property.
 
@tchrist (?:\r\n|\n|\r|\f|\x0b|\x85|\x{2028}|\x{2029})???
 
@yellowantphil Thatā€™s because Iā€™m good at it. And modest.
@Unihedron No, actually.
 
@tchrist where do you get all those crazy things?
 
What flags?
 
But \v is [^\n\cK\f\r\x85\x{2028}\x{2029}].
 
3:51 PM
Kind of.
 
Iā€™m going to go clean my kitchen. No regexes in there šŸƒ
 
"\r\n" does not match "\R\R".
 
So it makes no sense for \R to be \r\n|\v, except... oh wait...
Atomic group??
 
Yes.
 
That's a real game-changer.
 
3:51 PM
My point.
 
Oh no.
 
You are not allowed to split up CRLF grapheme like that.
 
I do agree - \R is much better :(
 
Tolja. :)
 
walks quietly to sleep after knowing that \N isn't actually the best construct
 
3:58 PM
You see, "\r\n" is an extended grapheme cluster, and those are always atomic.
tchrist% perl -E 'say "\r\n" =~ /\A\X\z/ ? "PASS" : "FAIL"'
PASS
tchrist% perl -E 'say "\r\n" =~ /\A\R\z/ ? "PASS" : "FAIL"'
PASS
tchrist% perl -E 'say "\r\n" =~ /\A\v\v\z/ ? "PASS" : "FAIL"'
PASS
tchrist% perl -E 'say "\r\n" =~ /\A\R\R\z/ ? "PASS" : "FAIL"'
FAIL
 
@tchrist what \something matched a Unicode grapheme?
 
@Unihedron with the review link direct in the query: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/306395/…
 
w3schools got a redesign!
 
@yellowantphil \X matches an extended grapheme cluster.
 
^^ @rene is such a helpful person
 
4:01 PM
Atomically.
 
@Roombatron5000 If they used their own guidance you would expect it to break on a couple of browsers
 
@tchrist that isnā€™t on the reference
 
@yellowantphil So? Iā€™m right.
 
when did I say you were wrong?
 
You have to read tr18 closely.
But itā€™s there.
 
4:02 PM
I had been hoping somebody would have fixed that SO answer by now
 
The grapheme matchers \R and \X have to be atomic or they simply wonā€™t work.
The exact definitions are painful to read for anybody unlike me and mine, but the simple truth is just that.
tchrist% perl -E 'say "e\N{COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT}" =~ /^\X$/ ? "PASS" : "FAIL"'
PASS
tchrist% perl -E 'say "e\N{COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT}" =~ /^\X.$/ ? "PASS" : "FAIL"'
FAIL
You canā€™t backtrack into the middle of a grapheme.
 
I canā€™t backtrack at all. I only write stuff like <[0-9]+(\.[0-9]+)?(E[+-])?[0-9]+>, except that one probably doesnā€™t work at all
 
What is that supposed to match, or fail to match?
 
23.235E+03
if it were fixed and had backslashes in appropriate places
 
It fails on .23e1
Twice.
 
4:07 PM
c'est la vie
thatā€™s really weird notation... I donā€™t think Iā€™d want to match that one
 
You meant to write /^([+-]?)(?=\d|\.\d)\d*(\.\d*)?([Ee]([+-]?\d+))?$/ I know.
 
I didnā€™t want the ^ and $
just words < >
actually I didnā€™t want anything you just wrote
 
Define word.
 
@tchrist something resembling vim WORDs
 
Would you prefer something thatā€™s maintainable?
@yellowantphil Define word.
Rigorously.
 
4:10 PM
no thanks
 
Then you cannot match it.
 
\< and \>
 
One last time.
 
thatā€™s as wordy as I want it
 
Then you cannot match it.
 
4:11 PM
I donā€™t need approval
 
No, but you probably need success.
 
it works fine. Iā€™ve highlighted stuff in vim using something like what I wrote already
 
Vim doesnā€™t use proper patterns.
Not without plugins.
$real_rx = qr{ (   # start $1 to hold entire pattern
    ( [+-]? )                  # optional leading sign, captured into $2
    (                          # start $3
        (?=                    # look ahead for what next char *will* be
            [0123456789]       #    EITHER:  an ASCII digit
          | [.]                #    OR ELSE: a dot
        )                      # end look ahead
        (                      # start $4
           [0123456789]{1,3}       # 1-3 ASCII digits to start the number
There you go. No anchors. Supply at will.
 
vim patterns are all I need. itā€™s pretty much the only time I type anything that looks regexish
 
Personally, I prefer actual grammars.
$real_rx = qr{
  (?<real_number>
    # optional leading sign
    (?<real_number_sign> [+-]? )
    (?<pre_exponent_part>
        (?=                         # look ahead for what next char *will* be
            [0123456789]            #    EITHER:  an ASCII digit
          | [.]                     #    OR ELSE: a dot
        )                           # end look ahead
        (?<pre_decimal_point>
            [0123456789]{1,3}       # 1-3 ASCII digits to start the number
            (?:                     # then optionally followed by
 
4:13 PM
to each his own
 
Grammars are nice because they are self-documenting.
([+-]?)(?=\d|\.\d)\d*(\.\d*)?([Ee]([+-]?\d+))? is not self-documenting.
In fact, ([+-]?)(?=\d|\.\d)\d*(\.\d*)?([Ee]([+-]?\d+))? is some sort of punishment to those who come after you.
Which they can do because of how you embedded your social security number in the pattern steganographically.
 
@ProgramFOX User blacklisted (14020 on patents.stackexchange.com).
 
!!/ycs?
@undo could we have countdown till ycs freedomz?
looks like he's been active on ru.SO stackexchange.com/users/107389/your-common-sense?tab=activity , does he speak russian?
 
Not counting spam, about how many pieces of mail do you receive daily to one digit of precision?
 
@Roombatron5000 apparently, yes
 
like 8 or 80 or 800 or 8000.
 
user259867
@Roombatron5000 He's a native speaker of Russian.
 
4:55 PM
for some reason firefox decided to eat all my cookies :(
needs a secure jar
 
@tchrist online mail or postal service mail?
 
@Roombatron5000 Whatā€™s postal service? :)
Normal mail, yes.
Not post.
 
electronic mail, right?
 
As it were.
Not paper mail.
Mail you read with a program.
Looking for a digit followed by zero or more zeroes.
 
4:59 PM
Nice.
Commendable even.
Others?
 
differs 10 - 40
 
10 regular emails
 
~40 weekly
 
Wow.
 
when you going to tell us the correct answer?
 
5:03 PM
Iā€™ve just discovered that for reasons mysterious and immaterial, I am behind by about 7000 pieces of mail from over the last six weeks. Should I even try to read anything?
 
yes.
Read all of them.
Bit by bit.
Piece by piece.
 
it'd be rude to not reply to each one
 
I am considering feigning a lightning strike.
I mean, if it had been important, someone would have stopped by or at least call me, right?
 
Hrm, does that mean we should all send @tchrist an email now?
 
I used to get 65,000 attempted deliveries per day until I fobbed it off to my ISP to run interference against.
Now it is only a few hundred, all real.
But if you miss 6 or 7 weeks, you never want to touch the computer again.
 
5:07 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How do I unlock 200cc mode? by Kandou Erik on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
@tchrist Mostly about your books?
 
No.
 
@SmokeDetector ignore, needs editing though
 
@hichris123 Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
 
Mostly about many mailing lists I'm on. Perl. Unicode. Various local-to-Boulder gaming groups or hiking groups or hacking groups or beer-drinking groups.
Actual personal mail from friends probably only a score or so.
A day.
I feel like such a turd for not answering them.
 
5:08 PM
ah, gotcha.
@tchrist Just filter through them.
I can't type.
 
Remember I said I couldn't figure out why I wasn't getting the SE password reset mail?
Now I know why. :(
I have have missed discussions on groundbreaking new emoji.
 
So now all of a sudden people will start sending me mail with emoji for Superman and Batman and Spiderman and Captain America and the Silver Surfer and I will have no idea what theyā€™re talking about.
 
@tchrist are you sure that you didn't join some Marvel mailing list?
 
Yes: they wouldnā€™t send me Superman and Batman if I had done that.
Okay, Iā€™m going to keep 2k and pitch 5k.
Then I will put the From and Subject for each of the 2k in a file one per line, sort, see whether I care.
I nearly got sent to the firing squad for missing the HOA mail though. Couldnā€™t figure out what she was talking about.
fetchmail: SMTP< 250-DELIVERBY
 
5:20 PM
@tchrist you have an HOA? šŸ˜²
 
Deliver baby, oh boy!
Bah, Iā€™ve run out of connections. Must intercept before people get bounces.
I had two machines in a deadly embrace and didnā€™t realize it.
Certain things still trickled through because of a very high-priority special white list, so I never noticed everybody else had gone away.
 
5:47 PM
hmm, the [su] magic link isn't working on post body (but working on comment)
 
Magic links only work in chat and comments, not posts sadly.
 
Okay, now the phone calls are coming because I ran out of processes. Damn.
If I had just left it all there, Iā€™dā€™ve been blissfully ignorant.
 
phone calls?
 
@Roombatron5000 no
 
6:15 PM
@hichris123 Yes, because of bounced mailer messages with ā€œOut of processesā€ bounces.
Just friends worried that my house had burned down or that I was being held prisoner by terrorists. Something like that.
 
@tchrist ah lol
 
@hichris123 I believe there are several reasons why it is set up that way.
I guess I should have known I shouldnā€™tā€™ve forked off a dozen parallel Perl spiders rooting around for cat videos on Youtube for every incoming piece of flotsam and jetsam that hits my inbox and then mailing it back to them.
 
content will be different, HTML strcuture will be somewhat different too. but your answer is vague pony boy, stay gold — Manzar -MM 9 hours ago
What does this comment even mean?
 
@AlexisKing The last part is from the Outsiders.
 
6:20 PM
Yup.
 
The Outsiders is a coming-of-age novel by S. E. Hinton, first published in 1967 by Viking Press. Hinton was 15 when she started writing the novel, but did most of the work when she was 16 and a junior in high school. Hinton was 18 when the book was published. The book follows two rival groups, the Greasers and the Socs (pronounced by the author as /soŹŠĖˆŹƒÉ™z/, short for Socials), who are divided by their socioeconomic status. The story in the book takes place in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in 1965, but this is never stated in the book. A film adaptation was produced in 1983, and a little-known short-liv...
 
I was gonna say that.
 
Aha.
 
Beat 'ya to it. :P
 
I was looking for cat videos.
> Natureā€™s first green is gold,
Her hardest hue to hold.
Her early leafā€™s a flower;
But only so an hour.
Then leaf subsides to leaf.
So Eden sank to grief,
So dawn goes down to day.
Nothing gold can stay.
Ah these cultural touchstones. What would we be without them?
Probably asking in Tavern.
 
What the world. Needs now. Is . . . eMOARji.
 
This was great until they showed the misleading picture or "evolution".
lol
 
6:47 PM
@bjb568 Please stop watching Madonna.
 
Who's that?
 
That woman who keeps crying over spilt milk.
 
huhā€¦
 
7:22 PM
BJB doesn't watch Madonna, he watches the milk.
 
yum
 
@InfiniteRecursion That explains . . . things.
@hichris123 No mail so far from anybody I donā€™t know. Your plan appears to be working.
@InfiniteRecursion Someday he will have to be taught that shaving a milk mustache is different from shaving a real one. But today is not that day.
 
Why doesn't anybody ever have a milk beard?
 
@JasonC ā€œHe said with a grin, as he wiped off his chin, . . .ā€
 
7:30 PM
I stand corrected:
Brb, booting into Windows so I can make an animated gif of the dancing milk cup. Because I have work to do today.
 
@JasonC what, you canā€™t do that in Linux?
 
@yellowantphil I'd have to do research. Effort = bad. I already have a screen grabby thing on Windows.
 
āœ“
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: I.T.E. Power Supply by Robb on superuser.com
 
Sue
7:36 PM
Baby milk beard...
 
a goatee :-o
 
Sue
Technically yes!
Cat disguised as a milk beard!
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/29854716/… unless you want to do someoneā€™s homework assignment
 
Sue
Dancing milk!
 
7:44 PM
@bjb568 I know you like to watch it. ^
 
that milk needs a mustache
 
Yeah it does.
 
Sue
@bjb568 I love your Duck Duck Goose profile- very creative:)
 
Wait, what? i.snag.gy/Fz13n.jpg There's animated jpegs?
 
@Sue wat
 
7:46 PM
@JasonC šŸ˜²
 
@JasonC :D
 
What is this sorcery?
 
itā€™s a gif
with a jpg extension
file Fz13n.jpg
Fz13n.jpg: GIF image data, version 89a, 209 x 226
 
@JasonC mime reports that it's a gif
 
Sue
@bjb568 I chose to view your profile from here and this came up duckduckgo.com
 
7:47 PM
Yeah, I just opened it in a hex editor too. Snag.gy just got confused I guess.
Dancing milk has massive arms compared to its legs.
 
@Sue I see no geese
 
I really like DDG, but I still use Google because the search quality is just better. :/
I tried using DDG for a while as my default search engine, and I'd try the same queries in both it and Google, and the latter was much more effective at finding what I was looking for in my trials.
 
if DDG doesnā€™t have what I want, I must not have needed it
Iā€™ve been 99% DDG for years
 
Sue
@bjb568 Screenshot coming...
 
Google's crawler picks up more, I've found. For example, I just tried searching both engines with the query "racket multicast" and what I was looking for was Google's second search result. I don't even see that page anywhere in DDG.
 
7:55 PM
šŸ¦ šŸ¦ šŸƒ
@Sue that says Duck Duck Go, not Duck Duck Goose
and I think the thing with a bowtie is a duck
 
Sue
@yellowantphil Ah, I stand corrected. Or I would if I was standing.
 
@Sue you sit corrected. unless youā€™re reclining
 
Sue
@yellowantphil I sit corrected with a cat reclining on my lap.
 
@Sue no geese
 
@Sue my cat tried to sit on my lap last night, but he took me by surprise and ran away when I was startled
 
Sue
8:01 PM
@bjb568 Sadly, no.
 
some crazy animal just flies out of nowhere and lands on your leg
 
Sue
@yellowantphil One of mine does that all the time!
 
8:12 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: How can I mass delete photos off my camera roll (iOS7) by user123492 on apple.stackexchange.com
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@2mkgz Blacklisted user.
 
user259867
What's a convenient shorthand for "inappropriate"?
 
!ok ?
 
user259867
Something that one can understand without being told of the shorthand in advance....
 
8:16 PM
~ok?
 
the shortest synonyms are ā€œunfit,ā€ ā€œamiss,ā€ ā€œinapt," ā€œineptā€
some of those do not seem very synonymish though
 
user259867
I thought it'd be nice to know which SE sites have moderation issues... an obvious example is Patents, then there is Android (580 first posts in review queue at the moment), ...
 
user259867
It seems Beer is also there...
 
user259867
8:18 PM
0
Q: Is beer good or bad?

Dumb aGgI mean come on what are the thoughts about it? I was trying to make beer out of mud and it didn't taste good. What should I do?

 
user259867
@JanDvorak Yeah, and that....
 
user259867
But ^^ wouldn't be on SO for 20 hours, I suppose.
 
@2mkgz how little activity does a site need before itā€™s closed? Beer.SE is 0.4 questions per day
@2mkgz šŸ‘Ž
 
Sue
Did you people know there are 83 meta users who's only name is James?
 
Did you know that I am the only user on meta with a name that contains the substring "Doorknob" (aside from my sock)?
 
user259867
8:24 PM
@yellowantphil And that 0.4 is by virtue of that question. :/
 
user259867
Would be 0.0 otherwise.
 
travel.SE has only one thing pending in its moderation queues
 
Sue
I'm trying to find the one who just helped me but the pix are too small on my iPad screen, so if the @James is the one who just answered my question is ever here, I thank you kindly:) If not, I'll thank whichever James you are, cuz I'm sure you're helpful too!
 
@2mkgz No it wouldn't. There were two questions yesterday, and one two days ago.
 
Sue
@2mkgz I feel kind of sad for Android. Is it short of experts, or just overflowing with questions?
 
8:29 PM
it's just generally crappy
 
user259867
I think the main issue is that many questions are practically unanswerable without someone having a similar setup (device, OS, modifications) as the asker. Which isn't likely, given the variety of Android options out there, and weird things people do with their devices.
 
user259867
And the brevity of many questions, especially those posted from a mobile device, doesn't help.
 
user259867
Lastly, the XDA forums draw the potential audience away from SE.
 
Sue
@Oded When you come by... Thanks for your interest in my meta question. Do you want us to erase our comments? I asked Tim and he said just to erase the ones between him and me, but I'm happy to nuke the rest if you want.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Google Map and Driving directions in Bootstrap by gilbert on stackoverflow.com
 
8:34 PM
I answered an SO question, @2mkgz!
 
Sue
@2mkgz That makes sense. I think there's some crossover confusion with Webapps, but that's not a great site either.
 
user259867
shocked
 
user259867
@hichris123 If it didn't have "different ... than" I might even consider upvoting.
 
@hichris123 gasp
 
8:44 PM
@2mkgz ...?
 
user259867
If you consider "A is different than B" correct, I have no further comment.
 
18
A: Which is correct: "__ is different from __" or "__ is different than __"?

nohatIf you look in the Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA), you will find that different than, despite objections to its being ā€œillogicalā€ and ā€œincorrectā€, is in fact a very common and therefore standard usage in American English. TOTAL SPOKEN FICTION MAGAZINE NEWSPAP...

But I think it makes sense in this situation. "is quite different in Android Studio from it is in Eclipse" wouldn't make much sense.
 
user259867
"is quite different in Android Studio from what it is in Eclipse"
 
user259867
Yes, I know that a large amount of people write and say "different than".
 
Yeah, I didn't realize that was an American-ism. It's just how I learned it, I guess.
 
8:50 PM
@2mkgz So, how long have you believed that native speakers of non-Commonwealth English are full of it?
@hichris123 Yes, of course. Itā€™s completely standard English in North America. It pisses the hell out of some people whose regional dialect does not use it.
They even made a TV series about this once.
 
@hichris123 That was one of the most civil comment discussions I've ever seen. There should be some kind of badge for that.
3
 
@JasonC "Participated in a comment discussion and didn't belittle or attack the other user(s)."
 

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