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Vote up Jason C, vote down Ed Conttrell! There's less than an hour left and they're tied!

Ed Cottrell

7:10 PM

@bjb568 Gee, thanks...

… or you can do the other way around if you prefer.

lol

Unihedro

Pham!! You're back!

Ed's too old. He's all greyscale.

@Mooseman one gone

Unihedro

7:11 PM

@Undo s/one/both/

yay

Also, he doesn't review properly. stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/7657401

@bjb568 Looks right to me

no

It's incomprehensible crap.

here, let me show you. Give me five minutes to finish what I'm doing

7:13 PM

stackoverflow.com/review/triage/7649666 is ot/13

stackoverflow.com/review/triage/6887957 is ot/13

stackoverflow.com/review/triage/6887949 is code req tb

crap-digging-up season is over, that was nominations :P

stackoverflow.com/review/triage/6887665 is unclear

stackoverflow.com/review/triage/6887940 is unclear

stackoverflow.com/review/triage/6887718 is tb

That gets my downvote even without strategic voting.

Moderators can't be afraid to delete crap.

what does "13" mean?

Shog9

@Ixrec data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/edit/302946

Offtopic id 13, not enough info.

Shog9

7:19 PM

> Questions seeking debugging help ("why isn't this code working?") must include the desired behavior, a specific problem or error and the shortest code necessary to reproduce it in the question itself. Questions without a clear problem statement are not useful to other readers. See: How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example.

Basically 90% of questions fall under this because they ask for debugging without an MVCE.

Conspicuous Compiler

Hold on guys, I need to go upvote Ed before I read the rest of this discussion.

:o

wow, they're still tied

I wonder what happens if they are tied?

in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 hour ago, by yellowantphil

Stack Overflow will crash on the tie, and all questions will be deleted

7:21 PM

Let's tie them!

@AlexisKing Ah that sounds like a reasonable outcome

Apr 10 at 18:39, by ProgramFOX

@Mooseman Awesome! Easiest way to remove all low-quality questions!

Shadow Wizard

@Werner not up to me, but the one who deleted can easily do that... ;)

user259867

Rollback? stackoverflow.com/posts/24767685/revisions

bluefeet

@pizza yes

user259867

7:32 PM

Thanks! (I'm <2K, so didn't do it myself)

Guys, a question.

bluefeet

@pizza get some rep

Can there be a penalty for doing these harmful edits?

@MARamezani If it happens more than once, a suspension.

For example, if a guy got 10 edits rollbacked by a 2k, then some rep penalty, or yes, suspension.

Oh wait.

7:34 PM

Someone was doing that sort of thing lately in the scheme tag, I flagged it, and the user got suspended for a week.

There's already such thing?

It's not automatic, no.

Hmm,

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I think flags do fine. But what if, the thing goes unnoticed. I mean, "unnoticity" gets to happen at SO sometimes.

@MARamezani If it goes unnoticed, it's probably not a problem in the first place.

> What is the difference between the Windows and Linux - Some closed question

7:38 PM

@Mooseman Win starts with W, and Linux stars with L. That's it.

@MARamezani Linux is free.

@Mooseman In some places, Win is free too. XD

Kinda free.

Don't wanna talk about it.

With Windows you are free

@rene Ah! Finally someone on my Win side!

Linux development doesn't require a Microsoft account for anything.

Bart

7:40 PM

Windows doesn't require me to deal with Linux.

This is going to be interesting....

Bart

Your definition of "interesting" probably doesn't match with mine

O.0

Okay. This is going to be dirty.... Whatever.

@SmokeDetector fpu

@rene Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

7:42 PM

@SmokeDetector del

user259867

Alright, I think it's time to add Salesforce to excluded sites for email regex... it makes sense that CRM manages emails. @hichris123

Of course you ping me when I just got home.

I'll take a look in a few minutes.

But in other news, meta.stackexchange.com/posts/253659/revisions was [status-declined]. :(

Is there any way to position the content of a page below a position:fixed sticky page header besides duplicating the contents of the header behind it? Doing it that way looks OK, except when the user follows #anchor links, then the anchor is initially up behind the header.

Or is there a way to force anchor links to scroll the anchor to the bottom of the header?

@hichris123 Gosh! Everyone's talking about that now.

Challenge: The header is dynamically sized.

7:48 PM

@MARamezani Well, it was my answer. :P

Well, I for one, am not active, so I don't need activity...

But it's awesome that

user259867

3 hours ago, by pizza

The request to make Activity the default tab was declined...

> Actions speak louder than words.

@pizza I wasn't home. :P

I'm really annoyed though -- while the new profile page may look pretty, the functionality of it has gone way down.

Might have to userscript it.

user259867

@hichris123 That's my current plan. But it should be done before profile tab even begins to load, otherwise looks ugly.

Conspicuous Compiler

7:51 PM

I haven't noticed any functionality missing that was there before. What's been removed?

How do I track the progress of my flags?

user259867

@ASCIIThenANSI Click "X helpful flags" in the profile

@ConspicuousCompiler Nothing has been removed per se, but it's much harder to get to.

user259867

user259867

@hichris123 Except age and unregistered status.

7:54 PM

Freehands!

Even in chat!

:O

It's an epidemic!

@pizza This is strange. I know I flagged something, but now, the flag history is gone and it says I didn't use a flag today.

user259867

@ASCIIThenANSI Did you flag as spam?

user259867

There is no history if all your flags are spam flags. Which is a bug.

@pizza No, I flagged for something to be migrated (moderator attention). It was, but it doesn’t say I have a helpful flag.

@ASCIIThenANSI Maybe cuz it wasn't helpful?

Declined I mean.

7:58 PM

@MARamezani But it was migrated successfully, and it has no record of ever being in my flag history.

O.O

T-1:30

user259867

@ASCIIThenANSI Maybe you dreamed of flagging it.

user259867

If a flag is not in not listed in http://stackoverflow.com/users/flag-summary/{user-id}, did it ever exist?

@pizza Haha, no. I'm certain. The page actually exists.

7:59 PM

@ASCIIThenANSI Maybe at first the migration was aborted, just saying.

veryman.expert

@MARamezani And then someone just re-migrated it? That still doesn't explain why my flagging history still doesn't mention it.

@ASCIIThenANSI Maybe your flagging history is pulling your leg?

@MARamezani Maybe it's a bug, but I've never seen this mentioned by anyone before.

user259867

Yay, 12th Marshal on Android, after @AndrewT. and @bummi

8:01 PM

Congrats!

@pizza Congratulations!

I almost have Deputy. :P

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@pizza :)

@hichris123 I barely have citizen patrol.

@SmokeDetector fpu

user259867

8:05 PM

Candidates for NAA on Android -- I bookmarked this link and open it a few times a day.

Yay! I think I'm getting a hang of it.

user259867

Too bad there is no RSS feed for search results.

user259867

Not even a ticker "n new posts".

!!/so2015

@AndrewT. Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Election voting ends in 3 days, 23 hours, 53 minutes and 33 seconds.

8:14 PM

aint alodin fo meh

> Image not found

should be Jeremy Bank's flair

Y U NO WERK? (pokes @shog)

Anonymous

@bjb568 Ahh, I didn't realize I'd done that.

Anonymous

Oops. I guess I should fix that...

8:16 PM

Huh?

SO doesn't work? But SE works?

It's the image when I vote for you in the election.

Anonymous

@bjb568 Fixed.

Anonymous

The break may be cached for a while, though.

Wait, how did you fix it?

Anonymous

8:18 PM

~~No comment.~~ Secret moderator powers that extend backwards in time.

Bart

Man, a couple of my potential votes didn't make it.

Anyway. Done.

@bjb568 now it magically appear

:o

Anonymous

:D

Sterling Archer

Happy voting!

Anonymous

8:21 PM

Vote for me or I'll break your flair. >_>

Sterling Archer

Good luck to all candidates!

Chat login is borked.

It also complained at one point about referrer not be present.

status-your-fault

It also covered up a login button with a ugly topbar.

I logged in just a few minute ago.

8:22 PM

It also made the login button reload the page.

It also doesn't have SVG icons.

13

neither do you, @bjb568. Neither do you.

too late

hrm, idea.

Zero dev tool foolery involved there, I promise

2

@JasonC do you plan to update the SO vote monitor to stop auto-updating data, since the primaries have ended?

Frank

8:29 PM

lel

@AndrewT. I do. It's on my list. I'll probably just make it stop querying client side after the primary end time has passed.

nicael

ok, cool

nicael

whats this banner... did I miss something?

it's a yuk banner

8:32 PM

there's a meta post complaining about the wording in it

click your notifs!

^

the notifs/rep indicators are what I thought you were taking a picture of

nicael

of curs. didn't expect to have that +rep and motifs after being absent for only 10 days...

8:55 PM

motifs?

Motifs jump into my mind all the time.

(the music kind)

user259867

@Ixrec They did add the periods after sentences.

@pizza done

user259867

@nicael You decided to take a break exactly for the duration of primaries? Was it because too many of the candidates were your sockpuppets?

9:11 PM

@pizza Martijn is really @nicael's sockpuppet.

3

tchrist

9:31 PM

So nicael is really a michael not a nichelle? :)

9:56 PM

I can only find two candidates I'm willing to vote for, which is a shame. @Undo should have gotten more votes in the primary :(

@SantaClaus Is Madara / Second Rikudo in your list of people to vote for yet?

@Undo Didn't impress me.

Second Rikudo

in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 hours ago, by Undo

Lynn Crumbling

@SecondRikudo Aww... sad puss-in-boots...

10:01 PM

^ Who I'm voting for, if it helps

@SecondRikudo AWH THATS A KUTE KAT

That's the Cat of Vote Getting.

It worked.

2

This election is going to have a really interesting STV report, methinks

Second Rikudo

\o/

10:03 PM

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!!/alive?

@Undo ... did I miss something?

hrm, okay

user259867

@SmokeDetector All three posts are malformatted

10:14 PM

@SmokeDetector fpu

@Undo Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

@pizza I need help with the question. What's Matlab syntax like?

user259867

@hichris123 >> is Matlab's command prompt, which is usually present in codeblocks to show it's taken from console mode.

tchrist

@hichris123 It likes to be fed and watered regularly.

user259867

So I would put everything into codeblock, leaving >> at the beginning. The line with >>\>> looks like someone's attempt to fight Markdown.

10:24 PM

I guess I need a Gardening & Landscaping person then. :P

@pizza ah okay. I got confused because of that.

tchrist

@Undo That always sound like the candidates are sleeping together. ;)

So something like this, @pizza?

    >> tic; pause(1); toc
    >>Elapsed time is 1.009068 seconds.

    >> start = cputime; pause(1); elapsed = cputime - start

    >>elapsed =
    >>        0

user259867

@hichris123 No, the output would not have >> at the beginning

@pizza ah, yeah.

user259867

>> tic; pause(1); toc
Elapsed time is 0.994753 seconds.
>> 2*2

10:27 PM

@pizza I think elapsed = is an input and 0 is an output?

user259867

@hichris123 No, it's output too. Example:

user259867

>> x = 2*2
x =
     4
>>

really? huh.

Weird that it's not all on one line.

is your terminal wrapping weird?

@Undo This is Matlab.

10:29 PM

oh

user259867

@Undo It's because Matlab often works with matrices and vectors of decent size. So the output is likely to be pretty long. Having x = on the same line would mess up the alignment of columns.

Ahhhhh okay

makes sense

Okay, I think that's right, @pizza. Saved my edit.

user259867

@hichris123 Looks good.

Ooooh Chrome on OS X plays nice with zooming gestures on my trackpad.

Thanks @hichris123

(you're supposed to take credit here, 'cause no one knows any better)

10:32 PM

@Undo Not my fault.

Oh wait.

wait, this is wierd

Apparently they're zooming around the page like an image.

Cool.

@Undo Well, I did introduce a WebKit test to the Blink codebase that crashes on 10.6. Turns out our text shaping language (Harfbuzz) doesn't like RTL & LTR together on 10.6.

I could introduce a failing test too, where do I sign up? :P

@Undo Go submit a patch. :P

We do have buildbots though so it would never get into the codebase. At least, it shouldn't.

if "x" != "y" { SOMETHING_IS_BORKED(K_SHOULD_OBVIOUSLY_BE_TRUE) }

10:34 PM

I'm assuming we didn't have a trybot with 10.6 on it.

@Undo if ("x" != "y") { ASSERT(FALSE) } or if ("x" != "y") { CHECK(FALSE) }

I was close :P

CHECK() crashes the browser if the expression is false.

10:50 PM

Ballo

Y hallo

11:25 PM

tavern kill?

Y ping? Mobile borked.

user259867

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/253791/…

user259867

!!/status

@pizza Running since 23:25:46 UTC (4 minutes)

Q: Is there an effective method for cleaning butts?

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When bathing a child (particularly a baby under or around 1 year old, who can not stand on their own yet) is there an effective way to clean all of their body parts that are usually submerged under water? What I mean by this, is that regardless of the type of bathtub you use (or sink), the bottom...

I'll just drop this here.

user259867

They don't have a butt tag yet?

2

user259867

11:32 PM

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Q: The road to public beta: time to clean up Q&A on Health Stack Exchange

Well, this site's off to a roaring start! Kudos to everyone who has participated thus far; lotta great information here, and some promising signs of life from folks who are interested in helping each other learn more about human health. But, there are some rough areas... Answers that don't h...

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@pizza any chance you could post the rest of this somewhere we could all see it? it sounds interesting

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