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Blue Ice

2:38 PM

Huh

3ventic

I don't have 15k on any site yet

Shadow Wizard

@3ventic now you have something to aspire to ;)

Blue Ice

@shadow neat. Very cool.

3ventic

I want 20k so those suggested edit notifications stop bothering me after I edit a tag wiki

Blue Ice

Yahoo better fix their damn heartbleed issue. I need my photos back from flickr D:

I'll send them an angry email.

rene

2:44 PM

Can this be closed please: stackoverflow.com/questions/22940332/…

I CV for the indicated dup

but maybe this type of questions are better suited for webmasters.se?

Stijn

@rene It is, but there's no migration path to there so probably best to close it as dupe.

Jan Dvorak

SPAM? drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/109489/…

SPAM apple.stackexchange.com/questions/126883/…

rene

@Stijn OK, tnx

Braiam

now is a islamic girl instead of babaji?

rene

@JanDvorak yes and yes

Blue Ice

2:56 PM

Why does yahoo not have a contact email?

WHY

I don't want to have to call them :(

TGMCians

for what

Shadow Wizard

@BlueIce and you really expect them to do something if you contact them?!

Blue Ice

@shadow no, but it will make me feel better.

@tgm they are heartbleeding

@shadow :)

TGMCians

I see same for google also

Braiam

how you guys test?

Shadow Wizard

3:03 PM

@TGMCians nope, that was the first I tested and it was OK

Stijn

@Braiam filippo.io/Heartbleed

Shadow Wizard

> There are load (?) issues causing FALSE NEGATIVES

TGMCians

hmm

now seems OK

Braiam

@ShadowWizard if you use the tool instead of the online page it doesn't

Blue Ice

@shadow that's a green when it should be a red

Shadow Wizard

3:06 PM

still, might be the other way around as far as I can tell @BlueIce :)

Also, another tool show green.

TGMCians

hmm

I don't know why it was, might be It was yahoo

Braiam

> TLS extension 15 (heartbeat) seems disabled, so your server is probably unaffected.

Shadow Wizard

@Braiam what site?

SPArchaeologist

quick! we must find an heartbleeding missile launch server and start an attack against the innominable expert site

Blue Ice

Yeah, Google is fine

Braiam

3:10 PM

don't know what is worse

@ShadowWizard my bank

Blue Ice

I already sent one angry email

TGMCians

@Braiam I think you are checking which are not using any SSL certificates

Blue Ice

@braiam your bank is red?

Shit

Shadow Wizard

@Braiam quickly, draw all your money! And send it to Stack Exchange in a sealed envelope. ;)

2

TGMCians

:)

SPArchaeologist

3:11 PM

expect it to be red... for the next 6-8 years.

Shadow Wizard

@TGMCians bank site without SSL is like... like... oh my... can't even think of anything close to this unbelievable thing.

TGMCians

hmm not possible

Blue Ice

Xkcd is OK too

That's important :P

Braiam

> VeriSign Class 3 Extended Validation SSL SGC CA

banreservas.com.do...

TGMCians

> We are waiting on our CA to do a final update of all certificates used here - our multi-wildcard SAN cert is a special case which needs manual attention. We are waiting on that now and will flip to the new certificates as soon as we have it in place. - Nick

Braiam

3:17 PM

then why google was quicker?

TGMCians

facebook also

Undo

... because Google and Facebook are enormous companies with mountains of cash and people?

Braiam

> Yahoo isn't a enormous company with mountains of cash and people

Jason C

Also because it was discovered by a Google employee. OpenSSL released a quick patch so I presume Google was one of the first to apply it, if not the first.

Undo

@Braiam Yahoo's built on Bing which is run by Microsoft.

so I imagine Yahoo had... help

scary thought: what if this has been known for years by people that didn't report it?

ChrisForrence

3:26 PM

Awesome. My student loan holder is vulnerable.

And @Undo, that's something I'd rather not think about right now :/

Stijn

I guess half the internet is vulnerable.

Undo

:/

Braiam

sees how Chris writes an angry email

Undo

I should write a template angry email.

SPArchaeologist

@Undo (note to self: delete Undo account - he is starting to post dangerous questions. Use Tim credentials we stole 2 years ago) ^_^

Stijn

3:28 PM

@Undo I only have a Dutch source right now, but apparently the bug has been in the code for two years now: tweakers.net/nieuws/95271/…

@Undo > Een aanval met deze bug laat geen enkel spoor achter volgens de onderzoekers, waardoor niemand kan achterhalen of kwaadwillenden deze kwetsbaarheid de afgelopen twee jaar actief hebben misbruikt.

Undo

@SPArchaeologist :(

@Stijn yeesh.

This is, like, a huge thing in ITSec :P

hichris123

@Undo ... is there an angry mod message template? :P

ChrisForrence

Dearest <name>,

I am particularly peeved that you have an unpatched server that is presently allowing _anyone_ to monitor traffic.

Stijn

Loose translation: an attack using this bug leaves no traces, so it's impossible to know if it has been actively misused the past two years.

Undo

@hichris123 looks

SPArchaeologist

3:30 PM

@Undo jokes aside, I bet that if I search well, I can find at least one post somewhere in the next 2 days that claims that Diablo 3 wave of hacked accounts at launch were caused by someone using the heartbleed exploit. Against battlenet.

rofl

7

@Undo So... yes. :D

o He cast a close vote on one of my posts

Undo

heh

hammers another answer

Pops

3:38 PM

@Undo Please do not share secret mod tools publicly.

Undo

:(

I didn't even say anything about the milk-related tools, @Pops.

(which are really cool)

Pops

THIN ICE

Undo

okay

Pops

Do you remember nothing of the classified portion of the mod agreement?!

Undo

:P

tries to figure out if @Pops is being serious :P

hichris123

3:40 PM

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Mar 5 at 0:38, by Undo

:P

Undo

@Pops wait, we were supposed to read that?

this changes everything

3ventic

Aren't all agreements just blobs of text you click through?

Undo

yeah

at least this one didn't make me scroll all the way to the bottom

TGMCians

@Pops I need your help ! wait

ChrisForrence

@3ventic Pretty much, except for the written ones. I tried tapping my finger on the paper, but nothing happened.

Totally unusable

3ventic

3:42 PM

You clicked the wrong thing.

You needed to click the screen of your automatic agreement signing device.

TGMCians

@Pops Can you remove this my message from the chat chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1957036#1957036 reason I forgot to hide my email there

Undo

@ChrisForrence you have to scroll all the way to the bottom of the paper before the button becomes tappable.

Pops

@TGMCians Alright, but you'll have to contact Imgur yourself if you want it off their server.

TGMCians

Yes I forgot that

Even I can't delete it now

Pops

Got everything you need?

TGMCians

3:44 PM

No, that is still there

ChrisForrence

@Undo Ah, I see! I think it's frozen though, it's not advancing to the next sheet of paper, and the car salesman is looking at me funny.

Pops

I meant you should get the file name so you know what to ask them to remove.

Undo

@ChrisForrence try holding a flame next to it, that's known as a 'hard refresh'.

Pops

I didn't want to delete the chat message before you had that info.

Alright, chat message gone.

TGMCians

Okay

@Pops Thanks !

ChrisForrence

3:52 PM

Hmm, that's new

Pops

No problem, that's why I'm here.

Seriously, that, and nothing else.

Weird business model SE has.

ChrisForrence

How long has that "last flag declined" message been there?

Undo

about a month IIRC

ChrisForrence

Hmm. Neat

Also got an error saying that I didn't have permission to cast the NAA flag. Turns out that the answer had been deleted before I was able to cast the flag.

Jason C

-1

Q: json with jquery table

Hi before I begin I would like to tell you than I am a bit new to Jquery and JSon. I was surfing through and found this page interesting http://www.newyorkdress.com/Alyce/29621.html and click on "What`s my size?" I tried to make make something like that but got stuck as i cant find help about t...

^ CV; unclear and OP is unlikely to share solution.

TGMCians

3:56 PM

-2

A: json with jquery table

The Issue is resolved Thank you

Jason C

What's the quickest path from a user's chat avatar to a user's SO profile? Click icon -> profile on meta -> network profile -> SO profile?

Undo

yup

ChrisForrence

That seems like the quickest path, @JasonC

Jason C

Sorry I changed my question at the last minute, because I'm stupid.

ProgramFOX

If you just need SO profile then you can skip the network profile.

Jason C

4:00 PM

@ProgramFOX I can go straight from meta to SO profile?

ProgramFOX

If your SO profile belongs to your Top 5 profiles (sorted by rep), then yes, you can.

Jason C

Ohhh right, good call, thanks.

Braiam

@JasonC only on meta.chat

rene

@JasonC I was the last one to close that

ThiefMaster

@JasonC middle clock his username/avatar in chat. saves you one click

Louis

4:15 PM

cv-pls-unclear stackoverflow.com/questions/22932985/…

Here's my rationale

The OP found the solution but can't post an answer before a while (apparently).

Jason C

@ThiefMaster Another good call, thanks!

Louis

The question as currently phrased does not contain the information that would point to the answer.

Hence, unclear.

I'll be happy to repoen this one when the OP edits their question.

Thanks guys. Keeping requirejs clean is hard sometimes due to the lack of traffic.

Braiam

Can I finally get Photoshop plz? I'm sick 'n tired of Paint. — Jin ♦ 2 hours ago

poor Jin :(

Louis

cv-pls-too-broad stackoverflow.com/questions/22940335/…

It needs just one more vote

Jason C

@BlueIce I was watching Samurai Jack the other day and saw the saddest thing ever, so I stuck it on YouTube for you:

►

Louis

4:28 PM

cv-pls-off-site-resource stackoverflow.com/questions/22939698/…

Jason C

:'''(

Louis

That last question was from a 3k rep user!

Blue Ice

5:48 PM

@jasonc Noooo!

So sad

those defenseless bagpipes :'(

@jasonc and the sound was heartbreaking

TGMCians

6:03 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/22944730/…

go and close it

gone, thnx

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/22944915/… go

HamZa

6:27 PM

0

Q: Regex reference and it's fate

Background: I was whining about the fact that regex suffers from bad quality questions and answers. I did something about it. I rampaged through the review queue: but I wasn't satisfied: I noticed highrep users (3k+) answering such obvious questions. Now there are two types of questions I no...

discussion reference regex

rene

6:48 PM

@HamZa Robert Harvey just locked it

This question's answer is a collaborative effort: if you see something that can be improved, just edit to improve it! No additional answers can be added here

HamZa

@rene I noticed thanks

Mysticial

Since when did we gain the ability to unprotect a question that was protected by someone else?

Anna Lear

@Mysticial Since always

Pretty sure it was never restricted like that.

Mysticial

@AnnaLear No, it was recent. In the past, we can't unprotect something that was protected by someone else.

Mods excluded of course.

Anna Lear

@Mysticial I checked and apparently the answer is "since today"

7

A: Auto-protect questions that get more than N answers from new users in a 24-hour period

This has been implemented pretty much as described in the question and is now deployed across the network. Default threshold is 5 answers in 24 hours (by new users i.e. users who earned less than 10 reputation on the site, excluding any association bonuses), at the point of which the question ge...

Mysticial

7:01 PM

ah

thanks!

Anna Lear

np :)

rene

Is there a meta post on what/when/how/why a wiki lock is as described by Robert here

Mysticial

It can't be a good thing that I noticed it almost immediately.

Laszlo Papp

-1

Q: Qt simple map tool

I am using PySide (with Qt4). I would like to use some widget/library/whatever to implement a simple 2D map. What does simple mean in my case? Well, I do not need any map server, just a bitmap. However, I do want to display some vector/bitmap icons on top of it, move them, rotate them and so on....

qt map pyside

close vote please

I do not set the rules, I just follow them. If you think this type of question should be on topic, you can bring it up on meta. — Laszlo Papp 9 secs ago

Why is there no homework stack exchange site yet?!

:-)

Louis

7:28 PM

@LaszloPapp I've put in my vote but we need two more folks to join in. (And I find the OP's edit from "tool" to "widget/library" hilarious.)

rene

I can only CV once on a post, sorry...

HamZa

@LaszloPapp that would be lethal :p

Laszlo Papp

homework.stackexchange.com

rene

you can follow this:

1

Homework Help

Proposed Q&A site for students who are middle/high school who need help in their subject whether it be from English to Math or Science to Social Studies.

Closed before being launched.

or this

2

School

Proposed Q&A site for middle schoolers/ High schoolers that need help with homework or are homeschooled and don't get a topic. Or anyone else who need help with school.

Currently in definition.

Laszlo Papp

interesting :)

rene

7:32 PM

Would give us a great migration target...

Is that question that just got closed a candidate for SR if improved?

Laszlo Papp

yes, without seeming rude.

I am not sure. I do not know much about SR.

Bart

@rene crapdumpster.stackexchange.com

rene

I'm too soft...

Jason C

@Bart No, programmers.stackexchange.com already exists.

Bart

@JasonC

Jason C

7:38 PM

Lol

Louis

@rene If you're talking about the Qt question, I'd expect SR to require more of a positive list of requirements than a negative one because it seems to me the scope remains wide open without it (and "I do not need" is not the same as "must not"), but I'm not familiar with their rules.

rene

On a second reading I concluded that leaving it rot here would be fine....

Bart

Too soft .... right ....

rene

Watch it....

Teletransport? not sure but this is not StarTrek. Please explain. — Steve 39 mins ago

Bart

What on the where what how now?

Is he just looking to instantiate a class by name?

rene

7:46 PM

No, He has serialized a custom type but don't want or doesn't have that type available during deserialization

If that would work type safety would be out of the window.

Bart

yeah ... my brain goes to "Why? No really, why?"

rene

It starts when you were told something about layers...

Jason C

Can we mercilessly auto-nuke network accounts of users who use the word "wanna" in a question?

2

Bart

Why would you wanna do that @JasonC?

Jason C

:'( @Bart

Laszlo Papp

7:51 PM

I do not recall when I used "want to" last time... it is just long.:P

user2284570

Hi, why am I getting questions with answers on the unanswered tab‌? Thank you all for being so fast!

Jason C

@user2284570 Because they don't have accepted answers.

Laszlo Papp

@user2284570: they do not seem to have accepted stuff, but yeah it is bad term used.

Bart

21

Q: Why does the "Unanswered Questions" tab show questions that have answers?

Why does the "Unanswered Questions" tab show questions that have answers? Return to FAQ index

support faq unanswered-questions

Laszlo Papp

unresolved would be better, yeah.

Jason C

7:53 PM

Does anybody in here have any experience with CANopen?

Laszlo Papp

o/

although a bit rusty...

Bart

SO/SE participation gets me weird emails

"Why a researcher shout pay too-much attention to game-driven SE site?"

Jason C

@LaszloPapp If I map target position + control word to an acyclic, synchronous RPDO, in theory I should just be able to send the RPDO, then send a SYNC, then it should be applied, right? Independently of the communication cycle period and synchronous window length?

This is 301 + 402 stuff.

Because I'm doing just that right now, and it's having no effect, and I am clearing the setpoint bit in the control word first, all the profile settings and control mode settings are right, and if I send a target position and control word SDO, it works fine. The device is in the operational state. I just can't make sense of the CAN specifications, too much cross-referencing... :(

Getting no aborts / emergencies from the device either.

Laszlo Papp

I probably cannot be much of help here.

Jason C

That's OK. Nothing makes sense anyways. Blargh.

I do have a 4000 RPM motor with 3000 mNm of torque here somewhere, profile torque mode + jamming the shaft into my eye socket = problem solved.

rene

8:06 PM

If any kids are watching: don't try that ^^^^ at home. Jason C is a pro...

Bart

rene

8:21 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/22152264/…

rene

8:33 PM

The close vote queue is running out of questions for my favourite filter...

TGMCians

back

I am note sure but a quite sure my answer went into review stackoverflow.com/a/22946735/1741671 , may be I am right

I see some guys there flag the answer which have less content

Doorknob

@TGMCians Do you really have to have a heading that says Solution? Does that mean that every question should have PROBLEM in big letters at the top?

TGMCians

hmm

thnx

sleep time

cya

Jan Dvorak

8:55 PM

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4531355

Blue Ice

@tgm bye!

rene

@JanDvorak approved...

Rollback? It doesn't look like a bad addition though...

Jason C

I'd say don't rollback @rene @JanDvorak - it probably should have been a comment but it's still not a bad addition.

rene

OK, fine with me

Blue Ice

@JasonC I watched the video :(

Jan Dvorak

9:04 PM

@JasonC agreed; still smells of 2rad, though

Jason C

@BlueIce OMG. (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っ

Blue Ice

@JasonC the bagpipe noises were soooo saaad :'(

Jason C

And they just sat there and watched it deflate; and his face :''''''(

Blue Ice

waaaah

Anyway, I'm making a neat list of people to email about heartbleed

ThiefMaster

@JanDvorak rather useful edit IMO. i'd have linkified one of the works though

Jason C

9:11 PM

@BlueIce Er, according to this site, this is crying: ｡･ﾟ･｡* ｡ +ﾟ｡･.｡* ﾟ + ｡･ﾟ･(ﾉД`) and this is poop: ξ━‥･･･☆＼_(ﾟ▽ﾟ*彡*ﾟｰﾟ)_/

Right.

Blue Ice

@JasonC And this is poop too: o(-”-;)o⌒ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~

I really don't want to know.

Jason C

To be honest, it all looks like poop to me.

ThiefMaster

💩 💩 💩 💩

Jason C

Oh wait, where was the best emoticon ever, haha. Hold on.

Blue Ice

@JasonC What about the glaring winky face?

o(-”- ;) o⌒ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~ξ~

hichris123

9:14 PM

@ThiefMaster That's squares again. :(

ThiefMaster

Get a proper font that contains U+1F4A9 ;)

Blue Ice

@ThiefMaster Yeah, not very creative :P

hichris123

@ThiefMaster ... what OS are you on?

ThiefMaster

windows

hichris123

Then why can't I see it?

Blue Ice

9:15 PM

@Thiefmaster boooo :P

hichris123

I'm running Win7.

Jason C

Dammit I can't find it but when I do I'm making it my user name. I've got it saved on my computer at home.

Blue Ice

@hichris123 I know for a fact that @ThiefMaster uses Windows ME.

ThiefMaster

does it work on codepoints.net/U+1F4A9 ?

Blue Ice

@JasonC You forgot this one!

●●●●●●●●●ヽ（゜∀゜)ノ●●●●●●●●●●

Jason C

9:16 PM

Haha yes: ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

Blue Ice

yay!

@JasonC Oh, we are so mature.

Jason C

Lol

hichris123

@ThiefMaster In Chrome, not in IE.

Jason C

@ThiefMaster I can see it on codepoints.net but it's still a box when you type it here.

ThiefMaster

i'm using firefox.. not going to try ie ;p

Blue Ice

9:18 PM

Good idea :)

Jason C

I guess it's not in the chat font; it's a box when I copy + paste it from that site to here, too.

Jason C

9:28 PM

0

Q: Horizontal scrollbar for textbox

Is it possible to add a horizontal scrollbar to a text box that works in all browsers? Currently if the text value is bigger than the size of the text box you have to highlight the text and move cursor to the right to see the rest of the text. I'd like user to have a scrollbar to use instead.

css

^ CV please duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/424192/… (I'm out of votes)

demongolem

11:12 PM

Can someone please comment ont this scenario: I mark stackoverflow.com/questions/22946355/… as duplicate. Another user goes into this clear duplicate, pastes the code, and uses it as an answer. It is quite clear copy/paste of the accepted answer there. I am not mad about losing any points; it is a clear duplicate and should be closed.

Louis

@demongolem Yeah, some of the code looks copied. I've not encountered this kind of issue before, and I'm thinking that some of the other forum members might have a better idea of the way forward than I do.

Yep, the code in this answer is completely cobbled from the other question. The first block is from the code in the question part of stackoverflow.com/questions/14627223/…

Evidence: "// Not working :("

The 2nd code block is from that answer to that question. Cut-and-paste. Sheesh!

Laszlo Papp

11:59 PM

@ThiefMaster: I am not sure why this answer got deleted. If you read the comments, it does answer the question. It is possible you forgot to do so.

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