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Bart

10:00 PM

goes and spread false rumours about @Undo to have him removed as a moderator

Undo

D:

I'm already hated enough :P

hichris123

@Undo "hated"

Bart

Being hated is actually a quality when you're a mod.

Undo

So you're going to go spread rumors that everyone likes me?

Bart

"Did you know @Undo is an SR mod, just so he can close all questions as "asking for recommendation"?"

Undo

10:02 PM

>:D

Bart

"He distracts all the other mods by giving them tons of flags to handle"

Undo

I'm currently on top in flag-handling stats.

Although the CMs are still crushing us for all-time stats :P

Bart

And you can't suspend them until you catch up?

Undo

I think I could actually destroy them if I wanted to.

But IIRC they could still handle flags while suspended :P

Bart

"He actually contemplated suspending CMs just so he could have his way"

Undo

10:06 PM

hehe.

Oh, and it turns out you actually can suspend Community.

And I've heard it's too dumb to unsuspend itself.

Bart

Haha, that's awesome

Undo

Huh

I can edit Community's about text!

Jan Dvorak

better you than @noone

3ventic

Of course you can

rene

Community can suspend you for that...it may be dumb but it is not crazy!

Undo

10:11 PM

I can't believe you can give a bunch of volunteers the ability to do these kinds of things and not have stuff blow up more often :P

Bart

... let's all remember this moment as the beginning of the end.

0

Q: Link Zk forum (account) to Stack Exchange

I have an Zk forum account(I see also lot of other people here and there). I'm very active on that forum but I can't show here any of mine reputation earned there. Could this also be linked or not?

^^^ really? And that's not a new user ...

Undo

ummm...

rene

His Karma of 1712 stays at ZkOss

3ventic

I'll get fanatic badge on SO on Monday just for visiting random questions that are linked here and on MSO..

Undo

forum.zkoss.org/question/91243/villa-dijual-dibali

ahahahahahaha

> The question has been closed for the following reason "spam or advertising" by chillworld close date 2014-02-22 18:48:09

this is not how you deal with spam :P

Jan Dvorak

10:18 PM

wait, that's a close reason there, not a nuke reason?

Undo

yes

Found it on their front page

Jan Dvorak

can they even nuke questions?

Undo

If they can I don't know

Jan Dvorak

it's an SE clone, so they should be able to

animuson

Somehow I don't think anyone would care about his Zk reputation.

Jan Dvorak

10:21 PM

s/his Zk reputation/Zk/

rene

s/reputation/karma/

ManishBot

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive title detected: Recommendation request for a book explaining string theory to a common idiot (me) on physics.stackexchange.com

animuson

I like how they have a "zk" tag for a Q&A system that is only about Zk...

Undo

We should show up in full force and lay down the SE law.

We'd all get suspended, most likely :P

animuson

Let's go ask a question on Math.SE and tag it "math"!

Undo

10:23 PM

yay!

Jan Dvorak

@Undo we should merge them it first

Bart

Let's just make it a migration target.

Jan Dvorak

@animuson or a question on SO and tag it stackoverflow. Oh wait.

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Undo

@Bart For all the sites.

And make it only take one vote to migrate it there.

That'll teach em!

Jan Dvorak

no, the VLQ flag will actually be a migration vote for that site

animuson

10:24 PM

@JanDvorak The relevant tag for Stack Overflow would be programming. ;P

Bart

Well thx for the aid, as marked as duplicate I will delete the question, I also want to keep the forum clean :). — chillworld 3 mins ago

Jan Dvorak

do they have this tag on Programmers?

Bart

^^^^ waiting for "I can't seem to delete this" in 3 ... 2..

animuson

Not even close to a duplicate. He doesn't even have enough reputation for the user card so why is he being linked to information about that?

Undo

I asked the same question

Bart

10:27 PM

Myeah, don't agree with the dupe either there @animuson. Way too far of a stretch.

hichris123

@animuson There is stackoverflow.com

animuson

That has to be the worst tag edit I've ever seen made.

Bart

KILL IT. KILL IT WITH FIRE @hichris123

hichris123

@Bart I've been trying. :P

What do we do with questions such as How I clone this feature of Stack Overflow?

Bart

Remove the tag. Why would it need that?

hichris123

10:30 PM

Like:

-1

Q: How does Stack Overflow formatting works?

I just wanted to know that how does this formatting works.I mean I need to enclose my code with ctrl+k.How this works programmatically in Java?

formatting stackoverflow.com

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 kill them with fire

unless they're good enough to be migrated to meta

3ventic

I thought Stack Overflow's workings were supposed to be on meta?

hichris123

@JanDvorak Most, if not all, are too old.

Jan Dvorak

mods can migrate anything anywhere

3ventic

Not too old questions afaik

hichris123

10:32 PM

So should we retag them to something? Or close them? Or what? (Let's take the one I linked above for example)

Bart

Not if they are older than 60 days afaik?

Undo

... Except for old questions

animuson

@JanDvorak No only devs can migrate questions >60 days old. And only under extreme circumstances.

rene

@hichris123 that one is handled

228 is the count

Bart

@hichris123 That question essentially has nothing to do with SO other than "I want a feature like that". That doesn't justify a tag.

3ventic

10:33 PM

I can't think of any extreme circumstances to migrate a question...

Undo

hichris123

@Bart Exactly. But do we just remove the tag, add a language tag, and move on?

Undo

@JanDvorak ^ Not anywhere.

Jan Dvorak

@animuson oh, thanks. Good to know. I think it clears up an old discussion on meta.pcg.se, too :-)

jadarnel27

@Bart Well we can't let that happen. Brown.

2

Bart

10:33 PM

YAAYYY!!!

animuson

:OOOOOO IT'S JADARNEL!!!!

hichris123

Or like this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/20936373/…

Undo

@jadarnel27 So you didn't go out and get a life without our permission?

You are such a good user.

Bart

HE'S ALIVE....ALIIIIVEEEE!!!

jadarnel27

doesn't know what a fortnight is

Bart

10:34 PM

Not 6-8 weeks

3ventic

@jadarnel27 2 weeks

Bart

How was life on the outside? Was there daylight and fresh air?

rene

@hichris123 tag removed

jadarnel27

@Bart Yes, just like the rumors said!

Bart

I knew it!

hichris123

10:36 PM

@Undo Is there an easy way to searched for closed questions in the API (your tag thingy)?

jadarnel27

And there were muffins.

Like, good ones.

Undo

@hichris123 I think so

Bart

I should try that once @jadarnel27 ...

hichris123

Life wasn't brown enough without you @jadarnel27.

animuson

@jadarnel27 Did you get to see the deer?

hichris123

10:36 PM

I thought I was going brown-blind.

jadarnel27

@hichris123 I can only imagine what it was like!

Or I guess I could just scroll a bunch.

hichris123

Hmm... how many pages would it be?

jadarnel27

@animuson Heck yeah.

hichris123

Hmm... would anyone have a fit with me if I just mass removed stackoverflow.com from all questions, without any retagging or further editing?

Undo

probably

it might even be me

Bart

10:40 PM

Don't make me flag you @hichris123

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hichris123

@Bart It's @Undo's fault.

He made the tool!

:P

Bart

He's a mod now @hichris123. He has become untouchable. I merely focus on the weak ...

jadarnel27

The Workplace graduated while I was gone? Nice.

Bart

And we have a Software Recommendations site .... it's true!!

Undo

@jadarnel27 yeah, with a shiny design too

jadarnel27

10:41 PM

@Bart Oh...really?

Undo

hichris123

> Is it be done by jQuery?

That's a pointless question. Everything is done by jQuery.

Bart

Even jQuery

rene

Can we delete this?

hichris123

Recursion at its finest. :P

animuson

10:42 PM

@jadarnel27 And I spent all my reputation there casting 170 down-votes.

Jan Dvorak

@rene you mean the SR site?

Bart

:)

jadarnel27

@animuson LOL. Time well spent, I'm sure.

Undo

no, you can't delete my site ;(

rene

Yes

Jan Dvorak

10:44 PM

cv-pls delv-plshttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/2321025/test-sql-qu‌eries-of-oracle-online

hichris123

@Undo There's probably some button that does that... go find it!

animuson

If nothing else, @Undo will fight for SR's survival merely to keep his access to the Teacher's Lounge.

jadarnel27

@Bart Who's a mod now?

hichris123

@jadarnel27 @Undo. ;)

jadarnel27

Ohhh, on Software Rec.

Nice.

Jan Dvorak

10:45 PM

not if we elect him a mod. I suggest voting for Undo to become a mod here, so that SR is free for deletion.

Bart

Yeah, but he's one of them Pro Tempura kinda mods @jadarnel27 ...

Undo

rofl

jadarnel27

Mmmm, tempura.

goes to a Japanese restaurant

Jan Dvorak

sounds like a froth blanket manufacturer

Bart

I just made myself hungry there ... dangit

Jan Dvorak

10:46 PM

washing powder

animuson

I really want to reply to this question with the ending screen from the South Park Guitar Hero episode.

Undo

^ I think they added these little labels everywhere in preparation for giving me a diamond

Bart

Pff, what would be a decent retag for this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/118500/…

Jan Dvorak

@Bart untagged

rene

There is badge

hichris123

10:50 PM

@Bart I dunno. That's the problem I'm having: what should we retag them to, or should they just be deleted?

rene

I tend to delete whole questions...

Bart

If only I had the option to go for that ...

Ooh @jadarnel27, you did of course vote in the election?

Undo

vote for me because brown

hichris123

stackoverflow.com/posts/6288931/revisions

Why did it remove the PHP tag and then add it back in? :P

Bart

Because at the time it was posted the ordering (based on number of posts) was different than it is now

animuson

10:53 PM

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Q: Diff shows tag being added and removed in the same revision

On this question's revisions (but I remember seeing it in other cases) the diff shows the same tag being both added and removed.

bug status-bydesign tags revisions-list diff

Basically, whenever a tag changes position in the list, an edit will remove it from the old position and add it in the new position.

Jan Dvorak

*decides to review edits for a while*
*gets an audit, then an empty queue*

Jan Dvorak

11:10 PM

another bad review

Undo

rejected

Jan Dvorak

OK... I'm outta edit review tokens for today

rene

SO day ends in 45 minutes...

Jan Dvorak

good to know it's GMT-based, not rolling-window-based

jadarnel27

@Bart Sure did =)

I was still actively using Stack Overflow during my hiatus from Meta and The Tavern.

Undo

11:20 PM

D:

@jadarnel27 What happened to you that caused you not to be spreading the joy of brown in here?

jadarnel27

@Undo I determined that there were a couple of things in my life (Meta / The Tavern, and Facebook), that I was...wasting unacceptable amounts of time on.

Undo

oh

jadarnel27

So I decided to take a break. And then see if I could come back and use them less compulsively.

hichris123

^ Thoughts on design? (cc @Undo and @Doorknob)

Undo

@hichris123 Lighten the background a smidgen.

hichris123

11:32 PM

@Undo Which background? The blue?

Undo

@hichris123 No, the big background.

The light grey

It'd be great if you could somehow get 'Station: Clark/Lake' into that top nav bar.

hichris123

@Undo I could... I think... lemme look.

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 left and right margins are way too different

Undo

And adding some more space between rows would be good.

Jan Dvorak

or are the squares supposed to run out of screen?

Undo

11:34 PM

And center the destination things better

Enough?

:P

hichris123

@Undo Yeah, that too... :P

@Undo Um.. any more?

Jan Dvorak

Yellow on blue... I'm not sure about that

hichris123

@JanDvorak What do you mean? The edges, like the edges of the squares and the times?

@JanDvorak Yeah, I'm trying to find good colors...

Undo

I probably just broke like every Android usability guideline, but whatever :P

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 I mean, the line icons are glued to the left side of the screen

oh, and it's a touch interface. Make sure your rows are big enough if they're clickable.

hichris123

11:36 PM

@Undo developer.android.com/design/index.html if you want to look.

@JanDvorak They're not clickable.

@JanDvorak Yeah... I'll try it with a margin of like 5 or 10 pixels.

Undo

You might actually consider changing the colored boxes to colored text, I.e. 'blue' in blue text.

For the color-blind people

And it might look better, too.

hichris123

Maybe...

Jan Dvorak

Also, it's useful for navigation

hichris123

But that takes more work! And I'm lazy.

Undo

And you should get rid of those ugly buttons at the bottom of the screen ;)

hichris123

11:38 PM

This is my code for those squares right now:

if(stringrt.contains(getString(R.string.Red))){
		    		color = com.dev.chicagotraintracker.R.drawable.red;
		    	}
		    	if(stringrt.contains(getString(R.string.Blue))){
		    		color = com.dev.chicagotraintracker.R.drawable.blue;
		    	}
		    	if(stringrt.contains(getString(R.string.Orange))){
		    		color = com.dev.chicagotraintracker.R.drawable.orange;
		    	}
		    	if(stringrt.contains(getString(R.string.Green))){
		    		color = com.dev.chicagotraintracker.R.drawable.green;
		    	}

@Undo sigh

@Undo I'm probably not going to... it's Holo Light Action Bar (or just Holo Light, not sure). And Holo's like the main thing in Android. (really, just look #holoyolo up. :P)

Jeroen Vannevel

Why was this deleted? stackoverflow.com/questions/21905942/…

Jan Dvorak

@JeroenVannevel confused for a "mee too" "answer"?

Undo

hehe

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