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Bart

3:00 PM

@LaszloPapp So make ..... the ..... feature ..... request .....

Oded

@LaszloPapp Yes. After review/discussion.

Laszlo Papp

I lost my motivation.

I am now in the process of using that crap tag.

Bart

@LaszloPapp I would advice you not to do that.

Oded

Don't be surprised if other members of the community don't take to that. And I don't mean anyone here or anyone that has ever been in touch with you.

random

-1

Q: Tag deletion system

I've encountered many tags which should not exist. (Too localized, dependent on other tags etc). I suggest a system that would allow the deletion of those tags (without having to post a question here on meta for each one). A simple 'flag' option on tags should be good, so that a moderator can sa...

Manishearth

3:02 PM

@LaszloPapp This is like going to the police department and asking them to ban a particular drug. They have the tools to do it, but it's not their job to decide what to ban. The correct channel is to get it brought up for discussion at the government level.

Hmm, maybe not that good an analogy.

Laszlo Papp

those police men are not hostile to say you can try, but we will shot you down in no time.

random

1

Q: Make it easer to [suggest] deleting tags that are wrong

There is this tag felix on Stack Overflow. It is apparently not a real/good/proper tag but just flattering someone named Felix. But on the tag wiki edit, there is no button to delete it or propose a deletion. Shouldn't we add something like this functionality, so that a peer reviewer with reput...

feature-request tags

Bart

Everbody quiet. I think @random is trying to tell us something... what is it boy? Did Timmy fall down the well?

Shog9

what's so hard about just removing the tag from all the questions where it's used and then doing something else for a day then?

random

Off topic

Manishearth

3:03 PM

@LaszloPapp Yeah, when they say "take it up to your senator", do you perceive that as hostility?

random

What if it's your senator that's telling you to take it to your senator?

Laszlo Papp

No, but I take it hostility what happened here.

"you can try, but we will shot you down in no time."

Manishearth

@random Then you oscillate.

Bart

Is that a quote?

Manishearth

@LaszloPapp "You can try, but you probably will be shot down"

Laszlo Papp

3:04 PM

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/196135/… -> and that is after having such a hostility like this: -10 for a post how to handle a certain concern

Yi Jiang

@Manishearth Off topic!

Laszlo Papp

iow, hostility after frustration.

Manishearth

Stop badly paraphrasing and then using it against us

Tim Stone

@random Politicians get lonely too, they just want to keep the conversation going.

random

"I could teach you but I have to charge"

Laszlo Papp

3:05 PM

Hope it goes to -1000 and I can beat some record. :D

Oded

The downvotes on meta is how the community tells you they disagree. Incredible that anyone will disagree with you, but hey.

Bart

As explained by Andrew on that post: "I think many of the down votes may be due to disagreement that there is anything vitally wrong happening here."

Laszlo Papp

@Oded: you cannot disagree with a question how something should be handled

it is not anyone, 10 within a day.

Oded

@LaszloPapp Of course you can disagree with a feature request. Or the premise of a question.

Manishearth

@LaszloPapp Note the word "should". That's a normative statement. Totally up for disagreement.

Laszlo Papp

3:06 PM

show me another post like that the last 24 hours

That post is not offensive at worst, nor spam, nor off-topic, etc

Bart: following the suggestion of moderators is vitally wrong?

Manishearth

@LaszloPapp yes, but people disagree with it

Laszlo Papp

so I should not take their suggestions then?

Manishearth

Nothing wrong about posting something folks disagree with

Bart

What? Where do you get that from?

Oded

-90

Q: Evaluating the risks of allowing teen moderators on the SE network

I have a David vs Goliath case here involving a teen moderator on Stack Overflow. His display name is BoltClock. I'm a low reputation SO user (less than 150 points) who was recently suspended for Voting Irregularities by BoltClock. Eventually the mistake was corrected by another non-teen moderat...

discussion moderation account-suspension

You have a ways to go ^^^

Manishearth

3:08 PM

-15

Q: Remove reopen vote confirm dialog

I think confirmation dialogs are a bad idea. The one for casting reopen votes is completely unnecessary on top of that. The user needs to move the mouse to click on the OK button to cast a reopen vote. This is completely unnecessary. Of course, if the dialog is removed, second thoughts about re...

feature-request status-declined vote-to-reopen

-5

Q: Question askers should get free down votes on answers to their question

Digging in the archives depths of MSO while thinking about this, I found: Avoiding downvoting because of loss of points - limited number of free downvotes? Some Ways To Promote Down-Voting This made me think a bit about: how to promote down votes in general how to reduce the pain for users ...

discussion feature-request down-votes

Laszlo Papp

@Manishearth: how can you disagree with "Can you let me know how foo should be handled?"

Oded

@LaszloPapp No, but people disagree with it. Hence the downvotes. That's how Meta works.

Bart

And what does the community do @Oded? Elect a 15 year old. Insanity!

Oded

@Bart Crazy indeed. Electing people on merit. Yeesh.

Bart

@LaszloPapp That is not an accurate summary of your question.

Manishearth

3:09 PM

@LaszloPapp you're talking about this one, no? You're badly summarizing yourself now.

Bart

It is more like "Look at this terrible user stealing my content and grabbing all rep and glory. How can I stop that?".

And the community simply stated "Ehm, nobody did really steal anything from you"

Laszlo Papp

Manishearth: that -15 suggests something. I did not. I asked how to handle it

Manishearth: so inherently, you can disagree with that one unlike min.

mine*

since mine is more like informative rather than agree/disagree comprehensive question.

I simply cannot understand how asking for information after mods suggestion to go there can go this frustrating.

Manishearth

@LaszloPapp Sure. But the premise of the post was that there was a problem in the first place.

Oded

Which, crazily, people didn't agree with.

Laszlo Papp

yeah, let us have it to -1000 to discourage people asking questions.

now these two things really making me to tag qt-serial-port as is.\

Bart

3:13 PM

@LaszloPapp If you would have kept it at a neutral "Are users allowed to take my posted content and integrate it into their own answers?", the backlash would have been far less

Oded

Feature request: Rename Programmers to Brogrammers

Laszlo Papp

it is pretty useless to bring stuff there.

/me goes ahead and tag

Bart

@LaszloPapp Once again, rethink that

Laszlo Papp

Also, do not put things into my mouth

so to speak with your style

I have not ever said any stealing

Oded

@Bart - "There's none so blind as those who will not see"

Laszlo Papp

3:15 PM

but you are feel free to point the usage of that or similar word out.

Oded

@LaszloPapp No, but the whole post is about how something terrible has been done to you. Which people do not agree with.

Laszlo Papp

@Oded: this is what makes your long contribution to say things like this: "@Bart - "There's none so blind as those who will not see""

and you think that sentence is not hostile?

in this context?

Oded

Frankly, I lost interest in responding to your hostility.

Feature request 2: Change badges to cheevos

Tim Stone

Not that I have any intention of being dragged into this, but "can we prevent this situation somehow in the future in a reliable way?" is definitively not asking how to handle the situation...it's stating the way to handle the situation is to prevent it, and soliciting ideas on how to make that a reality.

Jan 24 at 21:07, by Tim Stone

feature-request: change "badges" to "cheevos" (and then shut down the internet in disgrace)

Laszlo Papp

may I quote any sentence in here in my blog post?

Oded

3:17 PM

You have been nothing but aggressive to any suggestion and have turned a blind eye to anything you have been told here.

@LaszloPapp This is a public chat room. Be my guest.

Bart

Promise to keep it constructive @LaszloPapp?

Laszlo Papp

Oded's another friendly post, and no hostile by any means.

Manishearth

@LaszloPapp And promise not to put words in our mouths? As you have been doing quite often till now?

Bart

@Manishearth No need for that hostility....

Manishearth

@Bart I'm just fed up that he did it thrice and then said chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1514900#1514900

Bart

3:19 PM

@Manishearth Tongue-firmly-in-cheek

Manishearth

Oh ah. My sarcasm detector is oscillating.

Yi Jiang

@TimStone You know what they say about great minds!

Bart

Huge heads @YiJiang?

Yi Jiang

@Bart Well, yes, that. Huge heads. Hrump...

Laszlo Papp

@Time Stone: not anymore, no, but I do not think a small correction in there will help. Sadly, this is how SO works, if there is at least 3-4 + or -, the rest will go into that direction.

Oded

3:25 PM

For posts that have issues, sure. In particular if these have been pointed out and not addressed.

Laszlo Papp

Also, the request has been declined to remove this useless and hostile post:

"Putting smilies into your edited question isn't going to make it a better question. Just sayin'... :o) –"

as if I was putting a smiley in there to get upvote.... wtf.

Shog9

Need more smilies in the flag

Laszlo Papp

it is like "dude, no matter how you cheat to get rep, we will downvote you"

Bart

It's an adequate comment stating that smilies should not really be part of your posts @LaszloPapp.

Laszlo Papp

yes, calling me a cheater to get rep is very much welcomed.

and it is surely for everyone's best.

Bart

3:27 PM

Yes, that's what that comment meant.

Laszlo Papp

right, so I am now even called a cheater, frank.

what else?

am I also a murderer?

kidnapper?

Bart

If I answer that with a another sarcastic yes....would that also mean you think that's what I'm trying to say?

Shog9

everyone knows smileys don't work for downvotes. He's just stating the obvious. You gotta grin the downvotes to death.

Laszlo Papp

it is quite strange people guess that about someone he only put smileys into the post because he thinks this is the way to get upvote.

That person should probably use a mirror.

and ask himself whether it is friendly.

Shog9

maybe he can't

maybe he doesn't show up in mirrors

don't be prejudiced against the undead

Bart

3:30 PM

FFS, the comment means you should simply not use smilies. They are unnecessary and don't do anything for your post. They are irrelevant additions.

Laszlo Papp

the smiley is me

Bart

@Shog9 Nobody downvotes the Cheshire cat.

Laszlo Papp

if you say, it is not a good addition, you say, I am not welcome.

correction: the smiley is part of me*

Oded

Why do you take everything posted as a personal attack against you?

Bart

I shall call you Laszlo "Smiley" Papp from now on.

Laszlo Papp

3:32 PM

because I do not see such replies to newcomers anywhere in other communities to say the least, and if you probably ask a few people out there rather than the core here who keeps upvoting each other, you may be surprised compared to your opinion whether that is a really helpful, or offensive and demotivating post. What is the value of telling a people do not smiley because you should not, once or twice in a long post? Nothing, it is only a spam.

Oded

Many communities are very hostile to newcomers. And your interpretation of hostile seems to be rather expansive.

Manishearth

@LaszloPapp Were you really told not to smiley or that it wasn't necessary?

Please. Stop. Misquoting.

Laszlo Papp

@Oded: this reminds me a blog post is a good idea to ask outstander opinions about these answers to show a mirror.

Oded

You missed one in your last edit, @LaszloPapp

Laszlo Papp

Manishearth: he clearly meant to say, you should not because it is pointless... you will not get upvote, nor avoid downvote.

Manishearth

3:36 PM

@LaszloPapp Note the smiley at the end. He was just trying to be helpful.

Laszlo Papp

meanwhile no one ever is making smileys to make upvotes and downvotes. That is just overly bad faith to think, and hence not welcome in many communities luckily. Here, it is fine and welcome.

Oded

@Manishearth I thought that was a sign of hostility?

Manishearth

Are we really debating on how important smileys are to a post?

Laszlo Papp

Manishearth: help with what exactly? To demand his personality on me? How helpful is that?

Manishearth

And how welcome they are?

Laszlo Papp

3:38 PM

after accusing with cheating about up and downvotes?

Manishearth: he seems to debate that which I found pointless, yes.

and I asked for removal, but people seem to think it has a lot of point.

Manishearth

He wasn't. It was a comment that was meant to be funny and a bit helpful (in saying that "if you want to improve your post then that's not the way")

Bart

@LaszloPapp after serious consideration by the entire community we have settled upon such standards as no salutations in posts, not thanks, no unnecessary formatting, etc. Smilies are only a part of that. It keeps posts nice and clean.

Laszlo Papp

I do not think SO or meta for that matter should be a place for offending others whether they use a smiley or two in a long post ffs...

Manishearth

He wasn't trying to offend

And if you're getting offended by that, then no wonder you find everything and everyone hostile.

And yes, that ^ is hostility.

Laszlo Papp

Yeah, it is so productive to say, your personality sucks

Oded

3:41 PM

Almost as productive as getting offended by anything and everything

Laszlo Papp

leaving that comment in is a way to ensure people are allowed for getting personal

and leave comments all around whether to leave smiley or not.

rather than actually focusing on the important thing ....

Bart

Over time I'm starting to appreciate the (community-)moderators more and more.

Laszlo Papp

not doing their job at times? In my book, eliminating personal stuff should be part of the job.

Oded

Strange - not all people want to be productive all of the time. And there was nothing personal about the comment. It was about the post, not the poster.

Bart

@LaszloPapp not everything is about you or in relation to you

Oded

3:45 PM

Heh. What @Bart means that they still do keep personal stuff out despite some people.

Laszlo Papp

Yeah, so telling me that how I should behave is not about me.

because I behave so bad with a smiley.

and it is so much on topic, and not a spam.

Oded

14 mins ago, by Oded

Why do you take everything posted as a personal attack against you?

Laszlo Papp

I cannot possibly mention any other way how this could be taken.

Oded

15 mins ago, by Oded

Why do you take everything posted as a personal attack against you?

Bart

@LaszloPapp I'm stating that I'm appreciative of the moderators in our communities. And perhaps especially so of those who have taken this up as a volunteering position, getting very little in return.

That at no point involves you

Laszlo Papp

3:47 PM

/me is trying to solve stackoverflow.com/questions/18676466/… now

@Bart: I do not think anyone would disappreciate useful voluntary work.

the question is what we see useful.

leaving something in that I consider spam, is obviously not.

that does not however mean, I do not appreciate stuff I agree with that.

Oded

spam - I don't think that word means what you think it does.

Laszlo Papp

well, I actually even appreciate they are trying to do their best.

but I do not like bad decisions, like keeping personal stuff raise declined on a technical site.

anyway, I am off.

feel free to downvote all my answers wherever you come across my name. :D

and leave a comment everywhere where I have a smiley.

Oded

@LaszloPapp We will, if they are bad, incorrect or harmful. If they are good, helpful and accurate, we will upvote.

Content over people, you see?

Laszlo Papp

or if it contains a smiley. :D

(oops, I pressed again, I blame the keyboard)

Laszlo Papp

4:14 PM

@Oded: I cannot believe content is over people for some people.

see the one arguing about a smiley (someone's personality) and then the moderator even approving that.

Laszlo Papp

4:47 PM

@Oded: would it be simple to implement the functionality for answer votes?

(to everyone: please do not jump on me because I have such an idea, and might have a proposal)

Oded

@LaszloPapp What functionality? And it doesn't really matter whether something is simple or not - the community needs to agree that it is a good idea.

Laszlo Papp

@Oded: it is not a good topic to be discussed here.

because that has a forum elsewhere.

and yes, it does matter.

because if the feature cannot be implemented due to lack of resource, it is not going to work in the practice no matter even if there is a modulo approval.

so I am kindly asking: how much effort does that take to implement and whether the site developers have the necessary time required if needed?

Oded

5:03 PM

And I am asking you to explain what feature, as I have no idea what you are talking about. Of course if something is not feasible it won't happen regardless of it is desirable, but that's the exact opposite of what I meant.

Laszlo Papp

to vote about selecting an answer after a while. It is a shame there are threads with useful answers, and none is selected due to the careless OP.

Oded

What do you mean? Make an answer accepted without the OP being involved? Or changing the accepted answer without the OP being involved?

Laszlo Papp

former for starter.

Bart

Such proposals have been made and declined in the past @LaszloPapp

Laszlo Papp

"(to everyone: please do not jump on me because I have such an idea, and might have a proposal)"

Oded

5:10 PM

It is not trivial, but not difficult either. Probably a week or so of work.

Laszlo Papp

@Oded: is there enough man power for that if needed?

Oded

However - and this is a big however. This kind of thing has been suggested before and shot down.

Manishearth

25

Q: Community vote for "Accepted Answer" (Rep. >= 5000 only)

Possible Duplicate: Would it be possible to have a “community accepted” feature? People with reputation points >= 5000 should be allowed to vote for accepted answers for questions. Right now, a lot of new people come in, do a hit and run question and never mark an answer as accepted. Us...

discussion feature-request status-declined accepted-answer

Oded

@LaszloPapp That's not my call.

We have other projects and priorities as well.

Bart

72

Q: Force Accepted Answers on Questions by Inactive Users

As a disclaimer, I must admit this may benefit me (I haven't checked), but probably not as significantly as most others. This issue is also something that has prevented me from answering questions by users with 1 rep in the past, especially if they are poorly fashioned. The Problem New users wi...

feature-request status-declined voting accepted-answer abandonment

Laszlo Papp

5:11 PM

seriously, I directly asked people.

and yet they do not give a cent

Manishearth

Long story short, votes are the community accept.

Laszlo Papp

keep sending what I asked not to send. I am not sure what I can do more.

/me is leaving in frustration.

Oded

We - myself and many others here are trying to give you advice here. If you don't have anything new to bring to the discussion, the community will downvote.

Bart

@LaszloPapp You are free to propose this. All we're saying is, keep the history in mind. And integrate that into your new request if you have one.

Manishearth

We're not jumping on you. We thought you may want to see the reasons it was declined in the past

Oded

5:12 PM

The community has long decided that the community votes and that the OP accepts what they feel helped them most.

Manishearth

And write the feature request with that in mind.

Oded

Do not mistake advice for "jumping on you"

The simple fact - if you post something that has been asked for before, a few times, and don't mention that you have read these suggestions and explain what makes your suggest different, the community will be the one feeling disrespected.

Laszlo Papp

6:57 PM

Any reason why I did not get +15 for my reply selected as answer?

i think that problem is somewhere else in my program. But that copying method is perfect. Thanks a lot :) — user2440724 50 mins ago

there is no +15 in rep history.

1

A: Pass a QImage object between class methods

Welcome to SO! First of all, it is better if you use the term methods rather than functions because these are class members, and you will find most people calling these methods out there. Namely, these are members of your Image class. You can use a member variable for it inside the Image class ...

Bart

It has become a Community Wiki

If you see the revision history you will note it says: made Community Wiki by Laszlo Papp editing at least 10 times

Flag for moderator attention and point that out. They will most likely reverse it.

Laszlo Papp

well, yes because the user kept changing the requirements.

and I had to put even the simplest things into the reply.

I have spent a day with him.

Bart

Yep, so no problem. Flag and it will be reversed

See also meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/11740/…

Laszlo Papp

flagging does not work in my experience.

Bart

Not flagging will certainly not work

Laszlo Papp

7:02 PM

reviewers like declining stuff in a way that I do not like.

Bart

Do as you please. You'll have to flag to bring it to their attention. I'm telling you they'll be likely to reverse it. Do with that information what you want.

Laszlo Papp

re: above, I do not think anything new is necessarily required. Community keeps changing, different priorities keep coming up, new people join with different opinion. Old people leave with their opinion, etc

revisiting decisions is a natural way to keep the operation of the site for the community in question, and not for the people who are not available anymore, etc. It is not like the world is not changing.

In fact, downvoting ony because something has been already discussed is IMHO unacceptable.

Bart

Then you'd have to offer a bounty on the older question to bring it to the attention of the community once again. Asking the same thing again will see it closed as a duplicate.

Laszlo Papp

no, Q/A is not a forum

with long discussions. Threads should be kept short.

Bart

Your point being?

Laszlo Papp

7:08 PM

see above.

Bart

Meh, nevermind.

Laszlo Papp

I will not mind.

ThiefMaster

@LaszloPapp CW removed. Are all those comments on your answer still relevant or can they be purged?

Laszlo Papp

I still have no +15

ThiefMaster

It usually takes some time (same with deleting posts that had votes)

Laszlo Papp

7:14 PM

ThiefMaster: also, please do not edit the post in the wrong way.

now it is invisible on my laptop as a whole. I directly put it as it was....

ThiefMaster

Uh, that sounds like something on your laptop is very broken.

Quote formatting for a commandline string or shell output is usually a bad idea; code formatting is more appropriate. Same applies to using individual backticked lines instead of a code block.

Laszlo Papp

It is my answer.

you are free to put your answer in there.

but please do not edit my answer as I did not intend.

or leave a comment next time.

ThiefMaster

...

Laszlo Papp

and it will be considered.

now, I need to worry if my past answers had been edited.

I would need to check a bunch of answers to make sure .... :/

ThiefMaster

You get a notification when someone edits a post of yours

stackoverflow.com/help/editing

Laszlo Papp

7:18 PM

yes, but I do not check every edit ....

I trusted people....

ThiefMaster

If you do not like the long commandline to show up as a single line (I agree, it's not very pretty) why not split it in multiple lines- either separate commands or with a backslash at the end of each line so it's still pasted a as single command when executed in a shell.

Laszlo Papp

there is not much I dislike more than miles long lines fully invisible.

I need to keep fixing those in others' comment as well. It is very annoying.

It makes the code reading experience very hard, and I personally lose my motivation to help the person.

ThiefMaster

Then please use multiple commands and backslashes instead of the incorrect formatting.

Laszlo Papp

no, that is fine.

backslash is ugly.

ThiefMaster

Most important: When you use quote formatting it WILL break if you need to use e.g. a backtick in one of your commands.

Laszlo Papp

7:21 PM

and could greatly break for copy/paste.

ThiefMaster

People shouldn't copy&paste stuff into a shell anyway.

Laszlo Papp

???

ThiefMaster

51

Q: How can I protect myself from this kind of clipboard abuse?

Clipboard abuse from websites Many websites use JavaScript or CSS to stealthily insert or replace text in the user's clipboard whenever they copy information from the page. As far as I know this is mostly used for advertising purposes, but PoC for exploits have been demonstrated. However I disc...

exploit unix web-browser clipboard

Laszlo Papp

and to the cleanup question: no, please do NOT remove the comments until the +15 comes back.

I will flag them when I feel it is the time.

ThiefMaster

How exactly is the rep related to that?

Laszlo Papp

7:24 PM

how exactly is Mr. Hocevar's post related to that?

copy/paste works fine here. I cannot possibly imagine a situation where this very command would break, and now after the revert, it is even readable.

ThiefMaster

No, how is the 15 rep related to cleaning up possibly obsolete comments.

The linked post was the reason for "People shouldn't copy&paste stuff into a shell anyway"

Laszlo Papp

No, I meant why paste here something irrelevant?

meh

stereotype and theory without any practice....

Honestly, this is now readable and copy/pasteable. Everything else would be a compromise.

is there a thread for improving the response time for rep updates?

I personally cannot imagine that why it would take more than 10-20 minutes once the action is done.

it is basically just a simple check if it is answered, and then a minor adjustment.

is it quicker if the OP re-marks it?

Bart

Don't know if a rep recalc still triggers anything ( stackoverflow.com/reputation see the button at the bottom ) but the developers optimize the heck out of the site. Running certain things just every so often is more than likely part of that.

ThiefMaster

@LaszloPapp At least for deletions it usually happened within about 5 minutes. But yeah, try a manual rep recalc

Laszlo Papp

well, it is still not here, and you can check when you reverted.

it is dubious whether it comes back at all for me.

I mean it must be a bug if it does not come back in 20 minutes, but later it does.

is there an existing thread for bringing this annoyance up on Meta?

/me is about to remove that answer altogether

ThiefMaster

7:40 PM

wth, you are going to remove a perfectly fine answer because of 15 rep?

Laszlo Papp

yes

if the site is unfair to me, I will not be fair to it either.

ThiefMaster

Do I really need to lock your answer to prevent that?

Laszlo Papp

I do not even understand how you can have such concerns.

Bart

You do realize you'll also lose any rep you've gained from it previously, right?

Laszlo Papp

I do not care

fairness is more important here.

the site is unfair

so I am in no position to be fair to it.

I have spent almost a full day with the user with continuously changing stuff.... he did not even understand the very basics, I had to write everything done, even that 1+1=2

and so's gratitude, screw up, you do not get what others do.

s/done/down/

ThiefMaster: how do you know it is "perfectly fine"? If you do know, where is your upvote?

there must be something off in that scenario....

ThiefMaster

7:47 PM

Maybe I already used all my votes for today?

Laszlo Papp

ThiefMaster ♦, Germany

112k 17 139 231

javascript php jquery python html c ajax

5 votes for today ....

something is fishy here in your saying ....

1) I do not say "perfectly fine" if I cannot be sure

2) If I am sure, I upvote.

ThiefMaster

Maybe. Actually I simply didn't think about voting when I initially just went to the answer to remove CW. The edit was mainly because I noticed odd formatting. I didn't actually test the code or check if it's a "good" answer. But based on your behavior I assumed it's probably a good answer.

Laszlo Papp

please be careful for saying "perfectly fine" then next time.

be sure before claiming, do not guess, do not assume.

@Oded: is this lost rep a known bug?

anyone: is there a bugreport for it on SO's meta?

Also, is there a way for claiming lost rep by the system?

ThiefMaster

This is a chat, not some pre-election talk show for politicians where every single details matters.

Oded

@LaszloPapp It is not a bug. Reputation gains during CW belong to the Community user - any reputation gained when not CW belongs to the poster. This is by design.

ThiefMaster

7:54 PM

@LaszloPapp So I take your suggestion exactly as what it is - a suggestion - and ignore it.

Laszlo Papp

so, I cannot get the deserved rep?

Oded

@ThiefMaster Regular users can't delete their answer if it has been accepted.

Laszlo Papp

how can I get the deserved rep?

ThiefMaster

Ah right, forgot about that.

Laszlo Papp

I have worked almost a day with this guy

/me will ask the OP to re-select

ThiefMaster

7:55 PM

The user could unaccept and re-accept it. But if you are going to ask him to do so in a comment do it in a friendly way explaining why and don't harass him to toggle it just so you get your rep.

Oded

What he said ^^^^

Laszlo Papp

ThiefMaster: be gentle.

ThiefMaster: assume good faith.

ThiefMaster: do not treat someone like an unhonest, unreasonable person.

so AGAIN: is there a thread about lost rep on META?

ThiefMaster

I don't know you so I can only judge you from your behavior in chat earlier today.

Laszlo Papp

Discussing the "design" and then in a separate thread how to claim lost rep back?

ThiefMaster: be gentle

ThiefMaster

Probably not. "Accidental" CW combined with the answer being accepted while the post is CW most likely does not happen very often. And I guess most people don't care enough about 15 rep to spend time writing a meta post.

Oded

7:58 PM

Don't get so focused on rep. It is much better to focus on helping people, without expecting anything in return.

Bart

@Oded perhaps provide your input here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/188522/…

Laszlo Papp

SO is full of crap

ThiefMaster

Actually, in the time it takes to write that post you could probably answer some [jquery] or [php] questions and easily get 100+ rep

Oded

@LaszloPapp AGAIN? You never did ask for a thread.

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