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2:03 PM

On a different topic: privilege notifications are not happening anymore, or they take longer than a couple of months ago?

Some privileges are not shown to veteran users by design

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A: Did not get notification about new privilege

You won't get notification because you are considered a "Veteran user", such users get less notifications. There is a table originally posted here (10K+) by Sam and now deleted, but probably still relevant so will repost here: As you can see, the privilege "Approve or reject tag wiki edits" d...

Consider yourself veteran! ;)

Exactly your case, I see you hit 5K on SO

A veteran is a user with an associated account (on the side that was associated).

is it side or site?

To me, that looks like a typo?

also, the link in your answer refers to a deleted post.

I will edit it...

@ShadowWizard: I do not think votes have any values on meta, but I upvoted this answer anyway, thanks.

The link is there on purpose, there are enough 10K+ users so please don't remove such links. As for the typo you're right, it was in the original post. Fixed now.

No, then please make it clear.

10k+ in brackets is really wrong. I thought it would mean some info about notification for the 10k+ change. You would need to be clearer, see how it confused me for one.

@ShadowWizard: I suggested a new edit. Just remove the 10k+ entry.

it is confusing, and it does not contribute any value.

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2:20 PM

This might have been the fastest mSO edit review I've seen yet.

meta.stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/22976

I blame the 10k edit indicator in the top bar coming back

reminds self to get 10k on SO

I wanna handle them SO flags!

meh, broken "protocol"

why is there no more clear "protocol"?

I am pretty certain in that particular thread, it would not only confuse me where the discussion took place about privilege notification, 5k+ etc.

@LaszloPapp no, do not remove those links. Period.

@ShadowWizard: clearly, you have not taken a simple look into the above link.

there was *** NO *** link removal, period.

You removed link I posted to a question, how it wasn't link removal?

facepalm

meta.stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/22976 -> Please show us where a link is removed.

2:27 PM

He didn't @ShadowWizard. Just removed the 10k+ text. Which is still wrong. If you really want to change something, clarify the 10k+. Don't remove it

@ShadowWizard: you managed to write a totally confusing bit in there.

@LaszloPapp OK sorry thought you mean your first edit. Anyway don't remove this too, people would still like to know "this link leads to page not found if you're under 10K rep".

@Bart: why would it be wrong?

there is no single point in writing 10k+ all the time

deleted requires 10k+, you do not really need to write that explicitly all the time, especially when it is even getting confusing in the context.

I think you made a mistake with the review.

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It prevents the non-10k people from getting confused when the link 404's.

@UndotheSnowman: clearly, you have not read the post entirely.

it is mentioned *** right *** there, it is "Deleted".

2:29 PM

@LaszloPapp what confusing bit? Where?

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@LaszloPapp And both me and Bart rejected it - Bart is kinda a regular around here, and I haven't been around for a short amount of time either.

sigh, I already explained a few times.

Anyway like I said please don't remove those things, I'll reject such edits and roll back.

Yadayada, made a small change. Let's move on.

@ShadowWizard: ok, changed from upvote to downvote since it is confusing to me like hell.

and the feedback is not appreciated.

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2:30 PM

We're fine with that ;)

Feel free to downvote everything, I have no idea what's so confusing.

You don't have to appreciate feedback, I am trying to explain what you can and can't do on Meta

@UndotheSnowman: I really do not care what you are fine with. I have not said to make you "unfine" or anything. I was just being fair to explain why I gave it.

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sigh @Bart

I'm sure I can get away with that one, one last time this year

2:33 PM

@LaszloPapp Really, why is it confusing? Now, the answer clearly says "visible to users with 10k+ rep only". That looks clear to me.

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@ProgramFOX Meh, drop it.

@ProgramFOX: could you please stop the topic? I do not care anymore.

And it got me a snazzy new hat @ProgramFOX.

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Bart lives for hats.

New hat for me too so guess all is good in the world

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2:35 PM

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Q: Xcode does not see the segue

In my app I need to after the application has been minimized, and then open the application screen switched to a certain ViewController, it introduces the password if it is correct, the view switches to the main screen. My AppDelegate.m: -(void)applicationDidEnterBackground:(UIApplication *)app...

ios iphone objective-c xcode

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^ Segue abuse.

Grrrrrr

What in the name of horror is that?

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Someone abusing Xcode

That reminds me of having to do stuff in Labview over a decade ago

shudder

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Hah!

A good storyboard doesn't have a spiderweb of lines.

Yes and it does seem to fix the issue. I just wanted to make sure this is the correct approach. — MobileGuy 20 secs ago

^ Is this primarily opinion based?

Meh. My meter violently swerves between yes and no

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2:43 PM

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^ Ick. Is this [status-bydesign]?

@UndotheSnowman you mean the color or number itself?

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The colors.

The muted color of the 1?

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Yes

It looks horrendous.

I'm guessing "there is something in the queue, but you've already handled it"?

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2:45 PM

@Bart No, suggested edit indicator.

On a beta site.

Hmm. Don't know...

Each site has its own CSS, I already suggested to make it look the same across all sites

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Q: The suggested edit indicator on beta sites looks like it got unalphafied

I went over to my beta site today and noticed this fearless messenger in my top bar: It's the suggested-edit-pending indicator. However, it looks like someone took all of the 1's opacity away. I don't know what really happened (too lazy to open Chrome's tools), but it sure doesn't look right. ...

bug suggested-edits design 10k-tools

Anyway it's not a bug, pretty sure of that

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It is a bug because it looks bad.

2:51 PM

But it looks bad by design

No harm leaving it tagged bug, just saying :)

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I know....

At most it's [status-by-bad-design]

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status-wontfix

Nah, that tag is for stuff Won't has to fix

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@Bart But... Won't is gone D;

(or at least doesn't have power any more.

2:53 PM

Which might make the double meaning work

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status-too-busy-having-fun-in-our-awesome-office-to-fix

Won't just returned his diamond, but he's still active!

meta.stackoverflow.com/users/1228/wont?tab=activity

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Yes. He can't fix nearly as many things now, though :P

He could never fix any bugs... oh wait...

how frequents are the tag edits compared to the "usual" edits?

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3:03 PM

About even, I would think.

But I have no idea.

runs to SEDE

On SO, 1347814 tag-only edits have been made

wow

link to query plz ;)

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8793128

other edits

select COUNT(*) from PostHistory where PostHistoryTypeId=6

interesting, I have not come across any tag edits today.

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So about 15%

@UndotheSnowman but those are mostly 2K or likely even 10K users doing "edit tags" only, I think Laszlo is referring to edit suggestions.

I see on Meta sometimes posts like "low rep user is on retag rampage , how to stop him" lol

3:34 PM

^^^^ we saw that

I was trying to figure out how you guys did those

;]

What did I miss?

Doorknob of Snow

3:50 PM

I think I found a robo-reviewer

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3641727

[off-topic] Is there any reason you approved this suggested edit? It clearly should have been rejected. — Doorknob of Snow 32 secs ago

Is @minitech here to hand out suspensions? :P

He has rejected edits

Doorknob of Snow

@3ventic A grand total of four!

But the vast majority is looks good/no action needed/approve

Doorknob of Snow

> Frederic Close has approved 161 edit suggestions and rejected 4 edit suggestions

...Yeaaaah....

That seems a bit too obvious

Doorknob of Snow

3:55 PM

@TinyTim, suspend that user from reviews please?

No need to ban him from reviewing, while he's no great at it he still reject the really bad stuff

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@ShadowWizard All four of them?

I went over his recent approvals, most are fine and were also approved by others, only that latest one was flat wrong

The edit did try to improve the post, but changed too much while trying

And there might have been plenty of skips

@Bart yep he most likely skip and focus on things he think need to be approved, that's no robo reviewer

Doorknob of Snow

4:01 PM

I usually don't reject but rather skip suggested edits for which I'm not sure — Frederic Close 1 min ago

yep

@ShadowWizard Your comment about a linked account being deleted for a Meta user might well be related to this comment of mine

@Bart sorry, what comment of mine?

This one

Oh totally forgot about this! Well, you only advised him to contact the team. Most likely they found sock puppet case or he asked to remove that other account, I was hoping he would confirm the second.

Yooooo

4:13 PM

Anyway @Bart you didn't do any harm if you ask me :)

Today's Listening

Let's just say when looking for his original account (which he didn't link then) I found and flagged a couple of things @ShadowWizard.

So I expected this to happen

@Bart lol, so why you don't like this? You made the place bit cleaner by nuking a sock! :)

The fact people are so stupid is not our problem

Oh well, time to go. One new hat today, job done. :D

Hehe, well done

@ShadowWizard Whoa, how did you get the headphones hat

4:18 PM

For not listening obviously

Seriously, tell me how to get it

Tell you how to get a secret hat?

Yes.

Please.

You know the answer

If you don't tell me I'm going to delete my account

4:19 PM

Nice knowing you

It's actually a pretty easy one to figure out

You're deleting it anyway because you don't have the doge hat.

It's fairly literal @ElfSlice.

I don't get it

I post music in chat, doesn't that qualify me for the headphones hat?

Nope

doesn't involve chat

posts music on meta

4:24 PM

haha

won't do it either

Reviewing stuff?

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Doge hat!

If only it were real

@ElfSlice Close

Rejecting suggested edits?

only one way to find out

4:30 PM

gimme hat

@ElfSlice Gimme money and I'll give you hat :-)

gimme hat

@Bart I want to belieeeeeeeve

@ProgramFOX How much

I don't want to have to delete my account

Nobody is making you

in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 mins ago, by ElfSlice

If I don't get the headphones hat I'm going to delete my account.

I was trying to get someone to tell me and now I'm bound by the stars

did you already try what you guessed?

4:36 PM

There's no suggested edits for me to review

in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 4 mins ago, by ElfSlice

I have dibs on the review queue until further notice

The only site I have enough rep on is gaming.

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Seriously can someone just tell me how to do it

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A: I have a Secret Hat

Secret hats are secret. Public knowledge is not secret. Therefore, secret hats are not public knowledge. Shhhhh.

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Can a 10k SO person give me details on the deletion of this?

4:43 PM

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Q: I have deleted my answer, but it shows that someone else did that?

I have deleted my own answer, then I see below it: deleted by Flexo♦ 1 min ago who is Flexo♦? Why does it show that he has deleted my answer? here: Nginx Reverse Proxy non listening domain catch all

bug answers delete

Deletion @UndotheSnowman?

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@Bart Yup - any weird stuff with timestamps?

Or was it just a plain old mod deletion?

You're linking to a question that's still there

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There's a deleted answer on it.

Drat. Bill beat me to it.

He probably just hit the delete button after it had already been deleted.

4:44 PM

Ah

The question still stands: who is Flexo♦?

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The guy that we elected.

(I voted for him!)

Not all of us...I wasn't here yet.

So is it the one on the left or the right?

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@hichris123 Heh, I think at the time I had all of 500 rep and 0 meta presence

I had no inkling of who should be voted for :P

4:46 PM

I have all of meta presence and still no reps.

It's give and take, you know.

We cancel each other out.

Hmm...my first day was July 14

Allons, enfants de la Patrie !

Translator please?

gimme hat

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tries to figure out how to ping guy with a backwards R in the username

4:47 PM

La Marseillaise

"La Marseillaise" () is the national anthem of France. The song was written and composed in 1792 by Claude Joseph Rouget de Lisle during the French Revolutionary Wars, and was originally titled "Chant de guerre pour l'Armée du Rhin". The French National Convention adopted it as the Republic's anthem in 1795. The name of the song is due to first being sung on the streets by volunteers from Marseille. The song is the first example of the "European march" anthemic style. The anthem's evocative melody and lyrics have led to its widespread use as a song of revolution and its incorporation i...

stands up for national anthem

"Come, children of the fatherland!"

@UndotheSnowman hah. That is the whole intention.

@ЯegDwight

@Undo Hah.

Ugh you guys have some funneh ping.

4:49 PM

No, I just copied and pasted from your profile popup thing.

Yup.

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I can do that too. But it's cheating, @ЯegDwigh

That's the first test of the Internet.

If you can't figure out the copypasta, you should not be allowed on the tubes.

Or you could just learn typing in Яussian, you know.

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I could...

Can I run the Android app in the Android emulator?

Why, monitor internet traffic?

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4:53 PM

Yes

Exactly

(and I want to play with it)

Hey, I'll give it to you when I get it.

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Woohoo!

gimme hat

@ElfSlice Which hat?

Headphones!

in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 31 mins ago, by ElfSlice

If I don't get the headphones hat I'm going to delete my account.

4:55 PM

You're not listening @ElfSlice

Search meta.

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@ElfSlice I know how to get it.

We all do. Except for you.

I'm not listening
You must ignore somebody
For sekrit headphones

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A: How Do I Get the Winterbash 2013 Secret Hats?

Chuck Yeager "from JBM to JWH" Ghost of Winterbash Past "I live... AGAIN!" I See Your Point "Earned ten of the most meaningless points on the 'Net" Before It Was Cool "He ain't no drag" Eureka! "Solve these riddles and it's yours" IG-88 "You may have to go to ...

4:56 PM

I tried ignoring somebody in chat and it didn't do anything

WAIT

IDEA

Humpty Dumpty appears in Through the Looking Glass making mistakes in English and saying, "When I use a word it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.", and Mary Poppins is "practically perfect in every way". Perhaps this is for those who don't take well to constructive criticism in some way?

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@ElfSlice gaming.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/64608

I did not receive hat

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Wait for it.

WAITING IS FOR NERDS

@UndotheSnowman How long does it take. =[

@UndotheSnowman Also thanks. =]

4:58 PM

@ElfSlice A few minutes.

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It depends. People with 'Elf' in their username have to wait longer.

Oh, okay.

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@ElfSlice You have it.

@ElfSlice You got it.

aaaaah I didn't get a notification

@UndotheSnowman I love you

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5:00 PM

Hehehe

I still have more hats than you @ElfSlice

Ah, that's cheating @UndotheSnowman

This is the only hat I wanted

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@Bart Yes... Anything wrong with that? :P

psst... @Undo

5:01 PM

I could flag and see if both your hats could be taken away.....

@ColeJohnson you could, but then we would suspend you and take away all of your hats. (You're probably joking, but if we catch anyone gaming the system just to earn a hat, that's what will happen.) — Laura yesterday

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@hichris123 Sī?

SSHHHH

I won't tell anyone if you don't

@Undo ?

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Yes?

5:02 PM

What do you mean?

@ЯegDwight dundundun.net

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@hichris123 Spanish for yes.

Actually it should have an accent.

Duh... Didn't recognize it without the accent.

See!

5:03 PM

The headphones fit my avatar perfectly

I mean, si!

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nearly perfectly anyway

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Huh. Is it bad that I suggested an edit anonymously and then rejected it?

Anyway, could I not listen to you?

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hides under rock

5:04 PM

@ElfSlice The lighting comes from three different directions, though.

Eh, my actual avatar is flat. I added the santa hat though, and yeah it does have different lighting.

So. No lighting is a direction, too. That's three in total.

Well fine

I can tell from having seen many lightings in my life.

My avatar has more lighting inconsistencies than yours does! Take that!

5:05 PM

takes that

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stomps on that

This is the best hat now that Doge hat never existed

Hmm... where's my headphones?

@hichris123 I took them.

And stomped on them.

5:06 PM

@ElfSlice But I took them back. I stole them away from you.

But them is breaked now.

This is like the most appropriate hat for me

Even the name

"I'm not listening!"

Well folks, it's been a pleasure. I have to run now.

I suppose I am expected to not leave without a jQuery reference.

You should totally drop mental retardation and use jQuery. — RegDwigнt Dec 13 at 19:59

CU lators.

C'ya.

@ElfSlice I think you did steal my headphones.

Nope, there they are.

You should totally have used jQuery to post that quote

5:36 PM

People cheating to get elf slice hats? Do you truly hate his ears so much that you must have them covered?

(Safari's auto-correct is driving me absolutely bonkers -- why is it so aggressively corrective)

@jmac I think we hate his mouth more.

Too bad there isn't a Duct Tape hat.

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2 hours later…

7:13 PM

Can we get rid of the thanks tag on Meta?

@hichris123 ಠ_ಠ

Why is there a tag for thanks?!

Who knows.

7:43 PM

Ahh, and spotted an other great tag: jeff-atwood

7:57 PM

gnomeslice

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