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10:01 PM

Yay, more random twitter followers.

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hm, putting the border on the <div> instead of the img makes things worse

Oh well, will fix later

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Now to make it a proper userscript and put online!

How do I make a bunch of radio elements start on the line following the previous elements?

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@Moshe like one radio button per line?

10:05 PM

@TheRenamedException Yep

CSS?

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wrap them in <div> tags?

@TheRenamedException Erm. Wait! has idea

Rebecca Chernoff

> Legends tell of a prolific Meta Stack Overflow chatter who despised using their mouse above all things. In an effort to keep their hands firmly on the keyboard, this chatter set out to make a userscript that would bring all of chat's functionality within a few keystrokes' reach.

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hahaha

> Unfortunately, her hand worked backwards.

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@RebeccaChernoff ;)

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10:08 PM

@RebeccaChernoff that's great

I tried display:block.

Didn't work.

Well, the radios themselves, but the text stayed centered...

thinking

Oh duh, of course.

The labels are not part of the input tag.

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@Moshe <div> wrappers? :-)

@TheRenamedException Wait, can radios all have the same id?

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no

I know the "name" is supposed to be the same.

Oh, ok.

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10:11 PM

No two DOM elements can share an ID

@TheRenamedException no two DOM elements should share an ID

can and should being two very different things here

> RT @rstevens: "Stupidity is in my genes. Specifically, the Y Chromosome.”

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Let me put it this way: If two DOM elements share an ID, it's invalid and lots of weird things will happen when you use that ID :-)

True. Very very true.

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I.E. undefined order of choosing the element, neither found for that ID, CSS malfunctions for that ID, errors shown in browser console, world destruction, etc

@drachenstern - I seem to have lost my flair in Wwf of earlier on.

@TheRenamedException Gotcha

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10:15 PM

Also I will personally come to your house and beat you to death with a giant Oy

@Moshe in ref: our current game? Yes, that happens.

@TheRenamedException Oh, and raptor attacks. Never forget about the raptors

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@TheRenamedException I thought it was a giant S

@drachenstern Yes, @Jin played vamps for 72 points. I am no longer ahead.

@Moshe ouch

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10:16 PM

@drachenstern I don't have a giant S, so I use my giant Oy for beating people to death with...

@drachenstern Long day. I just gotta keep smiling.

@Moshe indeed. I really really need to finish writing about 400* lines of code

*random estimation that has no bearing on reality

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Okay!

@TheRenamedException Okay!

Does anyone here recall the last time I worked on my timesheet? I really don't want to open it up :(

@TheRenamedException and if you name it .user.js the browser assumes it's a userscript ;)

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10:19 PM

Feb 11 at 16:37, by drachenstern

@TheRenamedException and I thought today was a good day to update my timesheet. FML

@TheRenamedException yeah I hope it's been since the 11th :\

and no. It has not.

@drachenstern Yea, was wondering why Greasekit didn't recognize it.

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@drachenstern all I know is what I've been told :-)

@Moshe Tim is cleaning my clock right now

But seeing as how I primarily only did one task all last week :\

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10:20 PM

Here is the SEChatStatus Userscript!

@Jin Well, Tim hasn't played me yet. He is either ignoring me or I don't know his handle.

Rebecca Chernoff

Hmm. I wonder where my phone is.

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Hm. Userscript fail

@TheRenamedException Yep

What does the new userscript do? >.>

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10:21 PM

@drachenstern fails, LOL

Rebecca Chernoff

NOBODY PANIC, I FOUND IT

oh, well that's wonderful then ;) it matches mine! They're a matched pair!

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@RebeccaChernoff whew. I was concerned

@RebeccaChernoff Whew, I was about to have a heart attack.

I should seriously consider working on mine at night sometime, and finish it for Photos.SE

10:22 PM

Hah

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Oh I see the problem, my userscript needs moar jquery! Uncaught ReferenceError: $ is not defined

@TheRenamedException Hence the alpha designation ;)

@RebeccaChernoff I didn't because I have this great book:

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How long did y'all think I'd take to star?

:-D

Hmm, where's my phone..?

10:24 PM

I keep mine tethered to my iMac via USB when I'm here.

(:-D)

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Oh right, on its PowerMat

@TimStone You're welcome.

@TimStone o.O I'm jealous. I need about five of those ...

@TimStone When are you going to play WwF against me?

10:24 PM

@Moshe when he finds his phone

Eh...What's your name?

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ok. creating a userscript is a little bit more work than expected

please stand by while I figure out what the hell I am doing

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@TimStone moshberm

@TheRenamedException Hah :P

@TheRenamedException to include the jQuery libs you have to consider... you need the script to be injected into the page on dom loaded, right?

because you know the sites it's intended for will have jQuery to begin with, yes?

So I'll give you a hint, shall I?

github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts <-- the problem is already well solved here

So now it's WwF time is it? :\ ... :p

oy, 33 points behind? :(

10:29 PM

@drachenstern That's it? I managed 49 in two turns

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@MichaelMrozek no, 249:216 against Tim

Against Moshe I got two 30's back to back on the two opening plays. I don't think he was happy.

@MichaelMrozek is what WwF for Android?

@Jin It's out now; it wasn't when I took that screenshot, that's Wordfeud

@drachenstern I was not. Heh.

@Jin Was wondering the same.

Tim's gonna beat me by over 200points this game...

10:35 PM

@Jin - How do I make a CSS rule override another one?

add !important at the end

e.g. font-size: 12px!important;

Before the ; or after?

@Moshe that depends, what's the specificity of the conflicting rules?

before

before

10:36 PM

@drachenstern Not specific enough. :P

@Moshe no, I mean if one looks like: #header .menu .item ol li a and the other looks like .menuItemLinks then you may have other concerns.

Oh, no

Not at all, AFAIK.

Does IE respect !important? Or am I up against, !important-to-normal-browsers-but-not-ie?

additionally if the prior also defines #important. I don't remember if that would trump you up.

@Moshe it should ... what version of IE?

@drachenstern 7+

@Moshe quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html

10:40 PM

@Moshe you should be fine with !important with IE

@Jin Thanks.

Hi

@Fosco - Hi.

I almost have a beta for you for iPad.

@Moshe Cool!

@Jin - How do I keep text and radio buttons on the same line?

@Fosco Yep, I'll need performance testing as well as some UI feedback.

10:42 PM

@Moshe speaking of, how long does it take for updates to get to the appstore for me to see them to download them? or did you not upload them?

@drachenstern I did not upload them yet. It takes a few days, updates go through review too, but it's almost always quicker.

@Moshe hmm they're not the same line by default?

@Moshe you may have to play with the label line-height to get it right.

@Jin It's not label elements. Must've been something I did.

or any text. doesn't have to be labels.

@Jin Whoops they are, but now the top radio is shifted over to the right a bit

10:46 PM

@TimStone be gentle :p

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@Moshe put a <br> after "how many"

@drachenstern did already...

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@drachenstern sorry, I was talking to my boss

@Moshe then you need more margin or something

10:48 PM

@Moshe clear:left;

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Need to fix something then will return to userscript issue

or make the "how many" a block-like element, instead of inline

@TheRenamedException yeah, I'm "fixing" my timesheet ::glowers::

@drachenstern Luckily (for you) IU isn't a word. :P

@badpDr yep

lmao

I knew you would find a way to use that effing U

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10:49 PM

@drachenstern hahahahaha

@TimStone It is, if you're @RebeccaChernoff. It means User Interface.

@badpDr Yep, it worked. In conjunction with @TheRenamedException's div wrapper.

You may need to have words with Words with Friends in that case. :P

Hmm..

@TimStone I can't believe I resigned our last game by accident...

that ought to teach me not to look at my kids while i play

Hahah, I was surprised too!

lmao

It worked for me though, I had a surprising lack of vowels.

The Random Number God was just preparing its killer final hands

like "AAAAAOQ"

10:59 PM

Hmm, I could finish the game if I had somewhere to play this word, but it unfortunately looks like I don't..

@badpDr since when did your gravatar get a "Dr?"

@TimStone that's ok, I totally gave up an additional 10 points on mine :(

@Jin Since I got my degree

I hate smart people.

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@badpDr \O/

11:00 PM

@badpDr grats. a degree in what?

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@Jin jQuery

"IT Engineering" is the closest translation I can come up with

@badpDr Somehow I forgot to congratulate you on that earlier, and now I am ashamed. But, congratulations. :D

@TheRenamedException lol. I think Nick Craver has that..

Thanks

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11:01 PM

Yeah nice work Dr. badp!

So really not jQuerology?

or Pixeology

jQuery will be the subject matter of the next two years, obviously.

With a minor in unicornology, of course.

ah, University terminology, how do I love thee

wtf is a "minor"? :)

I'm already confusing the hell out of all Germans, given that there "Dr." means "has a PhD"

11:03 PM

@badpDr It's when stacking your electives with a particular subject is officially recognized by your university.

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@badpDr same to us Americans :-)

@badpDr So you do or don't have a PhD? I would expect you to have one for using that in the US

@mootinator "electives"?

@badpDr "Dr." in the US means you could be a rapper

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3 hours ago, by badp, Dr.

(Please note in Italy a degree in anything is enough to have a 'Doctor title')

11:04 PM

@badpDr free courses that one may choose the topics of so as to provide a "well rounded" education that doesn't focus on the major ...

I see.

@TheRenamedException Ahh, I see. :\

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I <3 oneboxes

So yeah, I'm not out of university just yet

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@TimStone I do not know how to do this

> Easily preview replied-to messages

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11:07 PM

Left arrow key or P

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@TimStone sweet, thanks!

OK, emailed client, now to figure out how this inject function works...

On the plus side, I don't think it can get any creepier than this.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think that is a very true statement Dr @badp

I hope Beckers doesn't click that link...

(Honestly, I couldn't come up with any other suitable nick.)

lmao ... nothing says "{name} please click that link NAO" like "I hope {name} doesn't click that link"

11:15 PM

oy, crap

Now that I gave up my moderator position at SPF, my private message box only holds 500 messages, and I have over 2000 in it.... time to archive...

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Q: Site's too cold, I'll go someplace warm

In this extremely popular feature request that the Jeff doesn't want to implement, he has removed the feature-request tag instead of adding a status, just so it won't show on his list of stuff that he doesn't want to take care of, i.e. sweeping it under the rug. Both jinguy and I asked him to pu...

discussion support no-support

Oh boy.

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:-(

Jeff's even worse than I am with my customers, I only tell them to GTFO when they're totally batshit crazy

Yeah, there really was zero reason for that comment.

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11:21 PM

Agreed

I kinda want to reply "Thanks for keeping us in the loop" though, I don't see the point in "goodbye" questions

am I out of line is my question

Eh, I think it's excessive even if you surround it with an "It's Jeff" context. He could have just locked the post and been done with it, for that matter. People would have complained about that too, I'm sure, but it would have been less of a direct middle finger, heh.

status-MEH

Exactly, should have [status-meh]'ed that shit and moved on ;)

11:27 PM

> ChrisF However, while it would be nice to have the change log, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

I like his sentiment and I'll bear the same flag ;)

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A: Site's too cold, I'll go someplace warm

I can understand how you feel Lance. I even agree with you; I don't think the comment was justified or constructive. I would be angry too if I received that comment. But you leaving the site is not constructive either. I'm not judging you, and I'm not criticizing you for your decision to leave.....

> Please cast your vote in the English Language and Usage 2011 community moderator election!

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@drachenstern for mod!

@Jin who's responsible for the voting pages on elections?

@drachenstern what do you mean?

11:29 PM

the layout is wonky in two places

working a screenshot

se.awio.com/election.html is still awesomesauce

hmm english.stackexchange.com/election looks fine to me..

Blergh

Summary - se.awio.com

P.S. I need more advertisers

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There are two red circular like elements, see two formatting concerns. Using Chrome. Neither are show stoppers, just ... annoyings

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11:33 PM

@DanGrossman I will ask my boss...

:D

@Jin does that help you repro?

hmm not really

I'm getting dangerously close to having edit rights. The time to serial downvote me is now.

the buttons on the left are inconsistent widths and the box on the right overlaps into the main margin.

11:34 PM

i assume the gravatars are voted candidates, and they should be fixed positioned on the sidebar

@Jin they are fixed positioned.

The problem on the right is the bounding box.

i'll take a look. what browser are you using?

Chrome 9.0.597.98

me too

Well, does anybody else repro or am I alone?

11:38 PM

goes to eat dinner

i can see it overlaps a bit

appears to be worse on the right hand margin in FX 3.6.13

buttons also inconsistent

tbh: the buttons may just be my anal overattention to some details.

i think there are some ad hoc styling going on...

@Jin on mine or on the page?

the vote button styling, and the overlap of the sidebar

i can see that now

11:42 PM

kk, situation reported. Occurrence noted. Fix visualized. I'm done with that topic.

i'll try to fix it if time allows. but now i'm focsed on aiming couple SE sites.

smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1768#comic

@Jin yeah, I figured. Hence show you and let you note it and move on.

@drachenstern i've written it on this pink sticky note on my iMac now.

lmao

@Pollyanna ~ Get your arse in chat! :p

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LOL

He just deleted his "Goodbye Lance" answer

11:48 PM

I know, I was gonna ask him why :p

I have it up on screen

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So we know he's around

@drachenstern he didn't approve of my edit I suppose

@TheRenamedException lol, shame I didn't get to see it then ;)

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@drachenstern LOL I was kidding, see the first sentence, something like "Somebody people like to...", I changed to "Some people"

oh, haha

Oy slow 3G here. shakes fist at AT&T

11:57 PM

Warning: Viewing this may cause you to get up and disassemble every faucet in your house.

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@Moshe hopefully not the fist you have your iPhone in

@DanGrossman puke

@DanGrossman what is that?

The image's caption: "The kitchen faucet's had low water pressure for months. Today I unscrewed the head and found out why..."

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