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7:00 PM
@MichaelMrozek I cheated and just searched for "[jeff-atwood]"
 
Tell me, Mr. Atwood, what good is a phone call when you are unable to speak?
 
Does anyone else save SOFU et al in their browsers' OpenSearches?
 
I use chrome, so it's quasi-builtin
 
Agent Jeff
 
@MichaelMrozek Peter is a machine. He's been systematically converting all my lower-case "I"s to upper...
@BoltClock yes. Insofar as I have Google...
 
7:06 PM
@Shog9 obviously you think lower of yourself than he does
I'll get my coat
 
@balpha No, I merely wish to give that impression...
 
@balpha that's how I found out about it. Even asked on Meta because I'd never seen it before.
 
(seriously - i hate the way I sticks out in a sentence. And self-absorbed individual that i am, i use "i" a lot...)
 
FWIW, the German "ich" is spelled with a lower case i
and we capitalize a lot more than you guys
 
Unless it's the first word of a sentence?
 
7:08 PM
see, germans are savvy...
 
@balpha Oi, this is Stack Overflow, speak English!
 
why is this day taking so long? [closed]
 
It's been 3 hours into Tuesday here... 21 more to go :/
 
I change i to I, but I don't go looking for them.
 
I'm really, really tempted to go around changing Wordpress to WordPress now.
 
7:10 PM
I've been on SO for < 60 days and have 4,265 rep.. am I a whore? :)
 
@Fosco Yes. But that has nothing to do with SO...
 
@Fosco That's not what that term means. And I am jealous. Teach me.
 
@Fosco: how does SO rep relate to your sex life?
 
:D
you know I meant rep-whore
 
@PopularDemand First, you have to know something useful.
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7:12 PM
oooh, BURN!
 
Seems redundant that the fave number for chat messages is shown a second time when I mouse over the message.
 
@Fosco That's also not what that term means.
@ErickRobertson That is why I asked to be taught.
 
I could be a good teacher, but I'm not cheap.
That is, unless you ask your questions on SO, then it's free.
 
Effective SO user: posts good answer, gets up-voted
Rep Whore: posts brief FGITW answers to duplicate questions, gets up-voted
 
Efficient SO user: posts only good answer, gets up-voted a lot
 
7:18 PM
ok, then im definitely not a rep whore... whew!
 
Effective SO user: posts incorrect answer, gets dinged, corrects it, gets up-voted
Rep Whore: posts incorrect answer, gets dinged, whines loudly in the comments, gets up-voted
 
where does sarcastic comments fall in those categories? :)
 
sarcastic comments don't get you any rep - the best things in life are free...
 
My best comments get me the most down-votes.
 
I thought I was going to get downvoted for this one.. poor delan. stackoverflow.com/questions/3531601/…
 
7:21 PM
@Fosco You're just getting started down the OCD train. 12k is your target baseline for 60 days ;p
 
+1 Fosco
 
You're not there yet until you start hitting F5 - Refresh before the previous one has completed
 
:D
 
I can't believe that consultant argued with you.
 
!! right?! exactly what I thought.
 
7:24 PM
If I hadn't reached my daily vote limit, I'd go through his history and downvote everything he ever wrote.
 
well lets not take it that far... lol.
 
I can't stand working with people who don't understand obfuscation.
I just want to kick them in their well-defined sac of reproductive fluid producing glands
@Fosco No worries - was a joke.
 
@ErickRobertson that was why he said lol.
 
I said no worries!
 
@ErickRobertson "Well-defined"? Thinking of someone in particular, eh?
 
7:29 PM
@Fosco, I thought the "blah, blah, blah" part was pretty rude, seemed to show that you didn't have a response to his statement.
 
@LanceRoberts Funny, that's the comment I up-voted. :)
I think Delan's comment was half buzzwords.
 
But it was to the point
 
"Logic should be separate from structure and content, therefore using the traditional attribute way of binding events is not clean."
 
Could be, I don't have a handle on javascript, so I don't know what the standards are.
 
The important thing is that the same method of binding events is used consistently in the same project. The specific organization isn't important.
 
7:34 PM
That's not entirely good advice is it?
Isn't that like saying "if you do it wrong once, at least make sure you're consistent and do it wrong everywhere"?
 
@LanceRoberts yeah and I felt bad for it.. but that's just what I felt after hearing that buzz-speak...
 
... not implying that the event binding in that answer was wrong mind you
 
@Lasse it's not wrong.
 
the fact that it's wrong is subjective.
 
@Erick exactly... very very subjective, as a lot of 'best practice' jargon is.
 
7:35 PM
Shouldn't it be 'opinion' in that case?
 
You could get into endless arguments about the proper way to organize event code. I think nobody would argue that it should be done consistently in the same project.
 
I have a ton of experience dealing with consultants... A majority of them had no real clue what they were talking about, but damn were they ever confident about it.
 
Companies foster consultants that are never wrong themselves
it's hard to fault the consultants for that when the punishment is what it is
 
My experience with consultants is that I have to do their work after I'm finished with mine. :)
 
@ErickRobertson same here. My last job was absolutely infested with consultants, there had to be kick-backs involved or some other corruption. It made no sense.
 
7:38 PM
It's different budgets
You can cut down on the people you employ, fixed costs go down
variable costs go up, but that's a different story (sadly)
 
@Fosco -1: no jQuery
 
The last time I worked with consultants it was on a government project where a certain percentage of the money had to be spent on minority-owned companies. Literally, the company was called "Blackwell".
 
@Shog9 I <3 jQuery with a passion.
but the OP didn't mention it
 
;-)
 
and obviously had no clue what he was doing.. :)
 
7:40 PM
See, I like that. You don't try to force your own opinions on the OP.
I asked a question about a null LayoutManager in java and got back a lecture about how I shouldn't use it.
 
@Fosco and that's why it's a good answer: the "clean" way is to separate binding from markup... but the other answer did so in a way that'll break in >50% of browsers, so all else equal it's a worse solution
 
afk
 
jQuery is just a javascript replacement, for all intents and purposes?
 
Wow, I haven't seen anyone use 'afk' in months.
 
I'm quite fluent in HTML / Javascript / DHTML / AJAX, but I've never used it.
 
7:43 PM
@ErickRobertson no.
 
No it is not a replacement, it is a library written in JavaScript, inted to query and manipulate the DOM
 
jQuery isn't a JavaScript replacement, since it's itself JavaScript.
 
It's just a library that works to abstract away browser API / DOM differences
(replacing them with a profoundly beautiful API of its own)
 
With a more colorful-looking but totally legal JS syntax.
At least, that was my first impression when I saw jQuery for the first time.
 
think: Boost and C++
@BoltClock well, for the most part it's a syntax that plays to the strengths of the language
the biggest problem with most of the DOM APIs (apart from all the hair-tearing incompatibilities) is that they were designed with Java or C++ in mind
...so you end up with a lot of verbose, tedious, fragile constructs
 
7:48 PM
so when you use jQuery, is it okay to still interact directly with the components on the page? or is there nothing you can't do through the jQuery library, so you should always use that to ensure browser compatability?
 
it's perfectly acceptable to do both
...with the obvious caveat that if you've used jQuery to, say, install an event-handler, you should use jQuery to remove it (replace it / modify it / etc)
 
so it's designed so that you can intermix jQuery with direct maniuplation
 
yup
 
@Shog9 that makes sense
 
yes - it's a library in the traditional sense of the word (even if the website irritatingly refers to it as a "framework")
 
7:50 PM
how about speed? does it run quickly, say, on mobile browsers?
 
@ErickRobertson it's respectably fast on desktop browsers and some mobile browsers; they're working on improving the latter
 
@Shog9 Clearly you don't mean that it's a bricks-and-mortar building that people can go borrow books from, so by "traditional" you mean programming-traditional. What is the non-traditional sense? (That might sound a little joke-ish but I am asking seriously.)
 
@PopularDemand a library in the "traditional" sense is a metaphor based on the brick and mortar full of books library
you grab a routine "off the shelf" and call it
a library that doesn't work this way (by limiting what you can do when not calling library routines, imposing implicit constraints on where / when your program can operate, etc.) breaks that metaphor
 
does jQuery interact with server-side scripting, too? or is it purely a client-side script with ajax support?
 
I'm not familiar with any "libraries" of the latter type.
 
7:55 PM
purely client-side
 
Could you provide an example?
 
I wish this was around when I was doing my big browser projects a couple years ago
 
@ErickRobertson Before we had IRC ;)
 
@Ikke Sorry, I meant jQuery, not this chat room
/me is an old IRC hand
 
@PopularDemand think GDI+ on Windows: requires explicit initialization, regular maintenance (in the form of a periodic call into the library from a message loop or a background thread), and care when mixing with the system GDI API on which it is based
 
7:58 PM
@ErickRobertson Oh lol
 
The only way I can think of that jQuery interacts with the server is with Ajax. But that's not really the point is it...
 
@Shog9 Thanks. I'm not familiar with it, but will put it on my -- already long -- list of things to read up on.
 
jQuery is mainly client-side. Meant to provide a common interface to the dom
 
@PopularDemand: don't bother. If you're not doing .NET, GDI+ is mostly a waste of time (and if you are, it's integrated into the framework and you don't have much of a choice)
 
@Shog9 Exactly your point.
 
8:00 PM
aghk, still have 60+ hours of work left on my program before I can publish, and that's just the things I know about :P
why is it that hard work is 90+% of the work, and the fun part is just 10%? :P
 
@LasseVKarlsen You get a double-digit percentage of fun? That's luxury right there.
 
@ErickRobertson yeah. Frameworks are sort of the extreme case of an unlibrary library: they exist to determine the structure of your program, and won't necessarily provide any benefit if you don't build within that structure.
 
@LasseVKarlsen because it's called "work"
 
@ErickRobertson, ah, yeah, you might have a point there
 
back..
 
8:02 PM
@Shog9 like the .NET Framework?
 
whelp... up to 60points today for insulting Java two years ago. Wish i could figure out who linked to that
 
what server side language do you use when building web sites with jquery? [subjective]
 
I prefer things as open-ended as they can get.
 
@Shog9 could be a community bump too
 
@Shog9, you can query with google for backlinks
 
8:02 PM
I've always been in php's corner, but my newest sites are .net.. have a nice VS2010 solution template now..
 
@Fosco Any language will do
 
@Ikke yeah, just wondering what others are doing..
 
@Fosco PHP myself
 
@ErickRobertson yeah... Except that's really a dozen or more frameworks and libraries all balled up into a big wad of API
 
@Fosco But no server-side AJAX library
 
8:04 PM
I used the ... checking code ... Glazed Lists AutoCompleteSupport object for Java - LOVED IT. It took literally one line of code and did everything I needed it to.
 
C++ / WinAPI
tons of fun. Where "fun" is defined as something unexpected
 
@Ikke Why would you need a server-side AJAX library?
In fact, what would that even do?
 
probably comet-support
 
try { fun(); } catch { throw new MustBeUsingJavaException; }
 
@ErickRobertson I don't know, never used one. But some people seem to use something like that
And it's not for commet support
 
8:06 PM
@LasseVKarlsen I had to look up what comet was, and I would think that would cause problems with large numbers of users.
 
@Erick XAjax is an example of a server side ajax framework for PHP. It was something I used to learn a great deal from, and made my own in it's image... stripped all the XML out of it.
 
@Erick You might be right, I have never used it, I'm no web programming guy
 
@ErickRobertson Less than AJAX, because it's push based, not pull based
 
@Fosco Was it something that was partnered with a specific client-side library to format data in a certain way for transmission?
 
I'm a framework guy mostly, that is, I write and maintain frameworks and libraries for others to use
 
8:07 PM
@ErickRobertson ...or web servers, if your server isn't designed for lots of connections
 
@Erick yeah it was both sides, functions for sending/handling the response (a collection of actions), and a server side piece just to distribute the work and send back the response.
 
Well, you all are making tons of sense. Is this normal for this chat room?
 
hmm, raining outside, and cat is out, and he loves dripping water, better find some towels
 
@ErickRobertson WAFFLES!
 
WAFFLES!!!
 
8:08 PM
This was before jQuery existed, so it was handy... but I refused to use XML and re-wrote it without.
 
We should have a drinking game here one friday
 
I also refuse to use XML.
 
nested delimiters > XML, at least when you're talking to yourself.
 
Every time someone mentiones waffles or unicorns, you have to drink
 
@LasseVKarlsen I'm in, but I'm having a drinking game at work this Friday, so maybe next week? :)
 
8:09 PM
@Fosco Ow, my self-esteem!
 
@popular what's wrong? :)
 
I work with Java.
 
sorry to hear that...
 
I'm not
 
it could be worse, though..
 
8:10 PM
As long as it's not J2EE, I'm fine :)
 
It could be COBOL
 
@LasseVKarlsen :)
 
Or Perl.
 
I worked with COBOL for two years
got my first real chew-in at a code-review meeting too :)
 
@LasseVKarlsen Are you that old?
 
8:11 PM
@LasseVKarlsen Poor you
 
"chew-in"?
 
it could be maintenance work on an old VB6 codebase
 
@LasseVKarlsen you worked with COBOL? How did you
 
"chew-in", whatever, don't know the term, being yelled at by my manager :)
 
you got chewed out
 
8:12 PM
Ah, getting chewed out.
 
Our COBOL installation didn't have sequential files, only some kind of record-based datasets
But the COBOL language had all the keywords left, they just did nothing
 
(Since when do we talk about programming in tavern.chat.meta.stackoverflow.com?)
 
yes. blah, blah, blah.
 
so in the middle of some code that tallied up the month end, this was a financial app, we added code that looked like this
 
enough of this programming talk, let's get back to programming talk!
 
8:13 PM
SEEK TO REC #variablehere AND DELETE
Manager was not as amused
 
@LasseVKarlsen Why not?
 
@PopularDemand (what drives you to drink?)
 
I took 2 cobol classes in college.. I dropped out of the second one.. I've had english classes that were less verbose.
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Because he thought the code did what it said it did, delete a record from the dataset that it wasn't supposed to :P
 
@Shog9 Not things I discuss while at the bar, that's for sure!
 
8:14 PM
But the SEEK keyword just made the whole line a comment
 
@LasseVKarlsen How does that work?
 
haha
 
uhh..
 
Brilliant
 
The code used a real variable which identified the record just being tallied
 
8:16 PM
@LasseVKarlsen Non-technical manager? Technical manager with no sense of humor?
 
I mean, how does the SEEK keyword make the line into a comment?
 
the SEEK keyword worked with sequential files
this was a mainframe, no sequential files available
the keywords was left in the language, but the compiler ignored them
 
my next programming language is going to have IF as a comment identifier
yay I got a starred comment.
 
@Fosco Users who liked this language also liked: LOLCode ; whitespace language.
 
@PopularDemand Whitespace is seriously awesome.
 
8:19 PM
He was a corporate manager responsible for finances
When you mess with the transaction records, you're playing on thin ice :)
 
fosco.com/life.ws is my working solution for: codechef.com/problems/TEST
such a simple program, but hey, you try doing it with tab, space, and enter :)
 
@Fosco +1
 
ty
 
Back in my days we only had enter
 
You had keys? We had to punch our cards with needles!
In the snow!
UPHILL BOTH WAYS!!!
 
8:25 PM
Uphill!
 
needles?! pff.. I used a jagged rock to etch peaks and valleys into a piece of tree bark
 
Whippersnapper.
 
well it's been fun, it's been real... goodnight y'all.
 
@Shog9 Sorry, that was me. Never tried submitting anything to Reddit before, so I thought I'd give it a shot, and that question somehow had never made it there before.
 
@mmyers: Reddit?! Evil bastard! ;-p
 
8:39 PM
Why do SO types hate Reddit/Digg/Hacker News so much? I've never used any of the three, but they seem quite popular, so I'm surprised that they're so hated-on by our subset of the Intarwubz.
 
@PopularDemand You forgot about being barefoot.
 
@PopularDemand The comments just aren't up to the standards of quality we've come to expect from Slashdot.
 
@rchern @LasseVKarlsen broke the flow. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
 
(actually, I've never read hackernews, so I can't comment on that)
 
A likely story. Not buying it!
 
8:42 PM
I like Hacker News much better than Reddit, but it keeps freezing up my browser.
 
@PopularDemand I read the programming subreddit pretty regularly, but it tends to get flooded with nonsense like "I want to learn C++ in 12 minutes, what should I do" and "What's the best antivirus program?". Fortunately, we don't allow sillyness like off-topic or poll links on SO
......
I tried Hacker News once, but it seemed like it was proggit but about two days behind. It was all the same links, only I'd already seen them before. I'm not sure if that's still true
 
@MichaelMrozek oh, right - they're supposed to be link aggregators or something! I never remember that...
frankly, ArsTechnica is my stand-by tech news site. And it's a slow day when I even get a chance to read through that
 
@Shog9 Yes, back in the day the point of proggit was to share interesting links about programming. It's my motivation every time I get in a close war
 
Sometimes I check to see if anyone has posted any SO links on Reddit and then go post some witty comment there.
 
@mmyers couldn't help but notice that mmyers was already taken... you got saddled with an underscore!
 
8:48 PM
@Shog9 Yeah, same thing happened on Hacker News.
And if I ever wanted to get on Twitter, I don't know what I'd do -- they're both taken.
 
I stopped opening my Twitter client when I realized I have no interest in reading what my friends ate for breakfast today
At one point there was an authentication problem and it was disconnected for about a week without me noticing
 
highlight of my day to find out what other people eat and when their bowels move :)
if you had been following Jon Skeet, then you would have found out he made a massive toad in the hole: @jonskeet: Toad in the hole. Yum. twitpic.com/2hj5b1
 
9:09 PM
"Man alive! There are men....alive in here."
mutters something about moving and how much it sucks
 
If anyone needs some perspective on their job:
 
heh...that first message didn't make much sense
 
The head of the rescue operation, Andre Sougarret, said engineers would drill two more shafts - a narrow one to ensure ventilation and communication with the miners in the coming months, and a wider one to extract the men via a pulley.

Mr Sougarret said it would take about 120 days to drill the second shaft.
 
Oh, wow.
 
So any time you feel like you're stuck in a hole in the ground...
 
9:16 PM
lol good point
 
9:47 PM
what's this??
 
What's what?
Who's on first?
 
What's on second?
 
You guys are alive!
 
Just taking a break from packing to eat and smoke a tasty cigar.
 
i feel like all the stackexchange sites are too much for me! i need somenice summary page
showing all thestuff i'm on. any such thing?
 
9:51 PM
I don't even know how many of the SE sites I have an account on.
 
this is weird
there is some bug with the starring list. the bottom bar covers it :(
 
@litb: you need a bigger screen...
universal truth ^^^
 
10:08 PM
@Shog9 Yup, I'm planning on buying a 2nd monitor ASAP; for the girlfriend, too. Though, we may have to settle for 22" widescreens.
 
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Q: Why does the first user flair in a page dominate?

mmyersOr: Aaronut is six moderators by himself I had a great screenshot to go here, but for some reason the upload didn't work. So instead, I'll invite you to visit http://meta.cooking.stackexchange.com/about. Now click on some link in the page; I chose the "parent" link at the top of the screen. Now ...

Anyone else seeing this, or am I just lucky?
 
evening gents
 
@GeorgeMarian Those are nice. Just got two of them for work a few months ago, made a huuuuge difference immediately.
 
hi room. first time here. nothing special on my mind, just wanted to see the new addition.
 
@shog9: Don't you think it's amazing how someone can still write questions incredibly badly after posting 910 other questions on Stack Overflow and having an 89% accept rate?
 
10:14 PM
@Shog9 Yup, I'm currently using the GF's 19" widescreen as a 2nd screen. Another 22" would be even better. It reminded me of how much I miss having dual monitors. Ideally, I'd like to have 3 for some games. :)
 
humm ... nice ui
 
@mmyers I can't seem to replicate your problem in my browser
 
Welcome @Majid there is also a room for feedback about the chat: chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/77/chat-feedback
 
@G
 
@PiersMyers Not surprising.
 
10:17 PM
@GeorgeMarian Thanks. Will check it when I have formed a better opinion.
 
10:28 PM
@AndyEshead I wish it was amazing. Look at how many of his questions are self-answered...
 
I don't know why I like chatting here. I think it's the AJAX.
 
@SergioTapia I don't see much conversation, is this always like this?
 
Not really. When I'm at work, there's a lot more people.
@Majid, I don't know why it's empty right now.
So what do you code with? Language-wise.
 
PHP
You?
 
C# but steering towards Ruby
I was about to jump ship but MVC2 came out and grabbed me by the scrotum. It's really fun to use.
 
10:35 PM
Me messed with Ruby 5 years ago.
Then I read some really bad reviews about its low speed and quited.
Most 'script' coders look at C and C# guys as some sort of leet, how about you, do you look us poor people down under?
 
I hear they move around too fast for their own good.
 
@George, i just bought a Dell 24" Ultrasharp, and then realized that a 27" would fit in the space I have. I'll sell it at what I bought it for and pay the shipping ($520).
 
I honestly think that there is a tool for everything. Although I despise the functional programmers smugness.
Every single thing they talk about is scala hurrrr durrr etc.
 
@LanceRoberts Oohh. I'll keep that in mind, though it's a bit pricey for my current situation. That said, I could use a really good monitor for my aging eyes.
 
yeh, it was pricey, but I really like good monitors.
Funny, the 23" I bought 5.5 years ago cost me $1575, times have sure changed.
 
10:41 PM
Yah, me too. I tend to chase quality for many things, especially something I use often.
@LanceRoberts Ouch.
Then again, I remember my dad paying around $700 for 32 MB of ram about 15 years ago.
 
The 23" still works, but I messed up buying my desk this last year and it doesn't fit.
 
TN lcd monitors are dirt cheap these days but if you want quality you need to pay more for a IPS or PVA one
 
@SergioTapia scala, pffth. Clojure is where it's at
 
@Shog9 yeah and that too. It sounds so retarded to think Scala/Clojure is the answer for everything. There is no silver bullet.
 
10:47 PM
@SergioTapia Sure there is. It's called C++. Unfortunately, it only fires straight down...
 
Nobody likes C++
That's like saying you like VB
xD
 
Who likes VB?
 
I think Sergio just said he likes VB
 
it's ok - you can be a closet VBer here. Just so long as you keep the door closed.
 
10:49 PM
I would have put my hand up 15 years ago - I thought VB3/4 was the badgers nadgers
 
VB6 forever babby
 
Please let me know how long I need to keep my lunch down.
 
Seriously, nobody likes VB. It's horrible.
 
I heard rumors about this Atwood dude liking VB... But then, he's undead
 
VB is to programming languages as grass huts are to buildings.
 
10:53 PM
Hey while I'm here. I'm looking for a nice solution to aproblem I have.
 
I sometimes have nice solutions.
 
I have to present statistics in a graphical way similar to pie charts, graphs etc.
 
In what language?
 
Is there a library out there that simplifies my problem?
 
@ErickRobertson *grass skirts are to clothing...
 
10:53 PM
(I have to use C#)
 
Are there nice solutions in C#?
Seriously, though, there must be something in the .NET Framework for doing pie charts and graphs.
 
 
It doesn't have to be a WPF solution, it can be using Windows Form.
 
I am not familiar with either.
 
@PiersMyers The Dell U2410 I got is H-IPS.
 
10:57 PM
I use tried and true programming languages that survive the test of time, not something invented five years ago that probably won't survive another five in its current form.
 
Are you talking about C#?
 
@LanceRoberts nice, wouldn't mind a couple of those myself
 
@SergioTapia Sounds like F#
 
@SergioTapia have you tried Googeling "C# Pie chart"? Might be good to ask that question on SO
 
@SergioTapia ZedGraph
 
11:03 PM
@Shog9 ha, I didn't realize that when looking at his profile
 
@AndyEshead yeah, i got suspicious when I started seeing a lot of accepted answers with no votes...
 
@Shog9 good job Unsung Hero doesn't apply to self-answered questions
 
heh...
 
@SergioTapia I am, but I have now learned that C# has been around for 8 years, although certainly not in its current form.
 
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Q: Is there a library that helps me create nice statistical charts for WPF?

Sergio TapiaI have to include some sort of reports for my university project and I already have the data ready to be used. I'm thinking of using WPF for the GUI and I was wondering if there was a library or something I could use that has some nice effects for graphs and whatnot. Any suggestions? I have to ...

There's the question I asked.
Erick: meh, you're opinion of a language is just your opinion.
Right tool for the right job.
 
11:09 PM
@SergioTapia I agree.
Fortunately, I get to choose my jobs :)
 
I wonder if they'll ever fix the 'recent activity'/'favorite edit' bug
 
@Lance: What bug?
 
@LanceRoberts I sure hope so. That drives me nuts, though the workaround is almost second nature to me now.
 
If one of your favorites gets edited, it lights the envelope up, but when you click on it to go to the recent activity page, nothing is there.
I got zinged three times today.
 
@LanceRoberts Sounds like you need less favorites...
 
11:19 PM
Yeh, it's probably time to trim them down, though I really don't have that many. I think the one I picked up today is just still too active.
 
"Formatting Sandbox" on Meta is a bad choice for a favorite...
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@Shog9 lol
 
11:35 PM
@SergioTapia could you tie your app into Excel to display the graphs?
 
I guess I could do something like that, but I'd need Excel installed on the end user. The purpose of this area of my project is to create a standalone application a business owner can launch to see some stats about his business.
I was looking into WPF because they have animations that are very fluid, but it seems there is no library for that.
 
I thought all business users have office installed on their PC's anyway
 
True
 
@SergioTapia why do you need animation for pie charts?
 
I prefer donut charts: amcharts.com/pie
 
11:48 PM
mmm...doughnuts
 
Shog9: That's like asking why I need colors for labels. I don't NEED it, but they certainly make it look nicer. I'm talking about a slice expanding on mouseover, or something like that.
 
mmm...eye candy
 
delicious eye candy.
 
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