@canon we think a console offering would be an awesome benefit (and win-win, could enable / disable it probably within snippets). Just need to find time to implement.
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I don't think this went really poorly. We chose one of the toughest and vaguest issues ever to talk about on the first one, but it worked decent given that.
That was pretty great! The problem, though, was that messages were coming so fast we couldn't talk about a single topic for more than about 15 seconds.
@PhMgBr wonder no more: The format felt even more chaotic/intense than I thought, but I was really happy with the discussion. We ned to think about how to add structure, but personally was really happy with the input and just having a place to respond more to folks questions, etc.
@Jaydles as I said, I think that the followup of this chaos is a discussion in "tripartite": powers, mods, users. With limited number of well chosen people in. (In a private chat room possibly)
@randal'thor yeah, I still lagged sometimes, but without the timeouts I'd have been doomed. On a threaded venue you can choose to abandon some threads, but we don't have that (nor do I know if that would even work).
I suspect the biggest structural change that would help is a CM driving the conversation by providing very specific bite-size questions we can all answer quickly and get an instant consensus on (or at least show all the major sides), rather than providing discussion prompts for us to talk over each other for five minutes
@Ixrec One thing we maybe could have clarified better is that we didn't expect to definitely solve anything in this hour. The goal wasn't to arrive at The Answer, the goal was to look more closely at some long standing questions.
@canon see my job gets easier when the groundwork has been done for us... MIT license would let us adopt this readily. I'll see what team thinks next week
Oh was the topic for this conversation really just comments? Having one set topic for 1 hour seemed to just encourage talking about the same things over and over again.
When there are several comments some of them get hidden, which I don't mind, except when comments in the middle are hidden and I don't realize it till I get to the end. Then I have to unhide the comments and try to figure out which ones I haven't read.
The comments stay in order as they should s...
then I must've had really bad timing over the last few days I had this tab open to make sure I didn't forget about the town hall, because it seemed like over half the posts where Smokey
@Ana re: separating out comments by subject, I know that "hiding comments isn't fixing any problems" but you could use this as a basis and have different tabs (or a totally different scheme). I think people would be less interested in leaving bad/useless comments if they weren't guaranteed exposure.
@AndrewT. Speaking of pinned badges: I choose Chrome theme primarily based on how visible the activity highlight is. (Answer: never enough.) It's high time for bold, bright, material-designy [n] badges on pinned tabs.
FR: make replies on conversation pages not horribly broken. They don't highlight on hover, and when you click one of them to see where it leads, it boots you to the transcript. Making the Town Hall conversation even more insanely difficult to follow.
Actually that applies for the transcript too... they have the hover thing, but clicking a reply reloads the whole page even if it leads to a message on the same page
@AlexisKing I'm assuming it was helpful for the Community Growth team to get some feedback, and helpful for the users to have some communication and validation that their concerns matter
@Quill weren't expecting any. This was all about @hichris123's blood and guts; if you get a lightbulb in there, you're doing something very, very wrong.
Also, many have status-declined because they are not well thought out or would be applied out of context, but could make sense as a part of a larger batch of changes
@Quill but still could be out of context. If something has to be done with the comments, it's clear it has to be large, because all small changes are already out. (Well, that's not the reason, the reason is that the problem is really complex.)