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5:01 AM

@SilentKiller I couldn't understand the question, so I don't know if it is POB.

bummi

5:16 AM

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/q/156691/20140

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: We get your role playing a doctor on TV you take by alicejoyce on drupal.stackexchange.com

bummi

could need a view: meta.stackexchange.com/a/254545/201151

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Qantas 94 Heavy

@bummi: spam, look at the profile

user259867

@bummi yes, spam. Flagged

SilentKiller

5:18 AM

drupal gone

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: this is twenty five days by jaqin zainew on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: High Quality Ingredients Found in Nitro XL by Furst Jana on askubuntu.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Best Supplements forever Building Muscle by alinzaa wioz on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

5:28 AM

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

SilentKiller

drupal/meta/au gone

bummi

blacklist candidate lastpass.com

James

@bummi whats wrong with lastpass?

Braiam

@bummi mm... that can be a potential fp in SR

and SU

bummi

5:37 AM

OK, it's to late to delete from the list

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Follow Lookalike Figures Diet Lipo G3 by coracorri27 on meta.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: yeah I killer Jack I'm s rental rate ox leery ages the know where they hadhacer I like the weather let by Xroes Xpson on drupal.stackexchange.com

James

@SmokeDetector gone

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

James

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

James

5:49 AM

When does smokey delete his messages in response to the gone command

Hey look, another Stack Exchange scraper askproblem.com/question/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Relaxed and stress free mind always by Haddin Patrix on meta.stackexchange.com

Qantas 94 Heavy

@James if Smokey is able to, it'll delete their messages. Messages can't be deleted after 2 minutes.

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Qantas94Heavy Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Eighty or most presumably SEP and better by momi ranikd on superuser.com

Qantas 94 Heavy

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Qantas94Heavy Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

SmokeDetector

6:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: You and of ever yeah okay yeah course of by variyazalma on drupal.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: Does it very work? by golajuriya on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Is there a way to convert a video from iOS (QuickTime) format to Windows (WMV or AVI) format? by beliefexpand on apple.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

6:52 AM

@bummi Blacklisted user.

Hobo Sapiens

Spam: stackoverflow.com/q/29936271/1864610

Spam: stackoverflow.com/q/29936321/1864610

bummi

blacklist candidate 21cssindia.com

bummi

7:06 AM

need flags: lifehacks.stackexchange.com/a/6761/1427 and askubuntu.com/a/615693/184892

blacklist candidate replacementlaptopkeys.com

rene

it only carries the weight of a slap with a wet noodle

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MYSQL RESULTS THAT WHERE NOT FOUND by George Vlaxos on stackoverflow.com

James

@rene Your kung-fu is weak like wet noodle

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Break those 3 meals up into 5 by jonethan lem on meta.stackexchange.com

rene

I feel like a wet noodle ... wait.. need coffee....

@SmokeDetector tpu spam

SmokeDetector

7:22 AM

@rene Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: disqus wont load in localhost, already in development mode by Sarah Taylor on stackoverflow.com

James

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@James Blacklisted user.

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Normal sunscreen are absorbed by the skin by Afas Lelu on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LONG TIME SPEED BOOT by Talenture Maxwills on askubuntu.com

James

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@James Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why does the word "Mapone" have this effect on Bullseye? by Justin Alexander on scifi.stackexchange.com

rene

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

7:37 AM

@rene Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

Rahul Nikate

7:58 AM

Hi guys. How to deal with this scenario. OP asked question. I answered it. then he posted same answer.

2

A: Null Object Reference Error

You need to initialize tb3.Parameters Table tb3 = new Table(); tb3.Parameters = new List<TableParameter>(); tb3.Parameters.Add(new TableParameter() { ParameterName = Table.ColumnNames.ID, Value = 1, Tip = Types.INT }); or you can initialize in Table class constructor itself like below pu...

please help me in this

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user, blacklisted website: What values are defined for the SpecialAccounts/UserList key and what I is their purpose? by Dieve on superuser.com

Bart

8:15 AM

@RahulNikate I wouldn't worry too much about it. He just seems to try and be helpful by showing his final code with the problem solved.

You've left a comment, that's enough. Keep in mind though that no one is obliged to accept anything.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How to reset Administrator password Windows Server 2003 installed on Vmware? by user17155 on serverfault.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: How to reset Administrator password Windows Server 2003 installed on Vmware? by Giedes on serverfault.com

Rahul Nikate

@Bart Thank you

bummi

8:37 AM

spam stackoverflow.com/a/29938119/1699210

spam stackoverflow.com/a/29938281/1699210

Bart

8:49 AM

Gone and gone

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Update CanExecute from another ViewModel's actions by Alex on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SELECT FROM OTHER TABLE WITH TWO SAME COLUMNS by tony on dba.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Energy vs. Power by Steven on english.stackexchange.com

bummi

9:06 AM

cv-pls webapps.stackexchange.com/q/76533/45867 div reasons

spam meta.stackexchange.com/q/254560/201151

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: TOPOLOGICAL SPACES by STEPHAN on math.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

9:38 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Need help on a simple quiz with random answers by mr god on stackoverflow.com

Bart

^^ inappropriate

bummi

spamseed and spam gone on russian seconds ago: webapps.stackexchange.com/q/76535/45867

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Rapid Programs For Slim Body Tips Considered by Romo bron on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Bart

9:48 AM

This is still around: stackoverflow.com/a/29939808/488657 flag please

SilentKiller

@Bart gone

bummi

spam superuser.com/q/907499/172747

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: What is the price of Biogeniste serum? by Iris Clark on superuser.com

bummi

spam seed aviation.stackexchange.com/q/14441/5607

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

bummi

9:54 AM

spam seed pm.stackexchange.com/q/14805/7021

Bart

@SilentKiller great

SmokeDetector

10:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CONVERTING TEXT TO DATE IN EXCEL IN MM-YYYY FORMAT by ANIL on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Problem adding apps from SharePoint store SharePoint 2013 online by Hovig on sharepoint.stackexchange.com

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

@Mooseman Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

SmokeDetector

10:38 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: To decide what fulfill your potential by john on drupal.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: How can I explain "zero knowledge proof" to an end user? by Ali on security.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: may accomplish a slim Weight Loss by Zubiw Dupe on superuser.com

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Mooseman Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@Mooseman Registered answer as false positive.

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

10:42 AM

@Mooseman Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

martin

Can you tell me why my comment flag (whole thread obsolote after edits) on stackoverflow.com/questions/29934349/… was declined? And why the question (now that it is clear) is now on hold?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: SQL join: where clause vs. on clause by Sharon Fernando on stackoverflow.com

bummi

11:10 AM

spam meta.stackexchange.com/q/254567/201151

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Important Guidelines For Succeeding With Low by domi presd on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Mooseman

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@Mooseman Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

tchrist

11:24 AM

There must be some reason why spam is so high when I’m sleeping.

bummi

@tchrist spam born from dreams ? ;)

Unihedron

Next summer: INCEPTION tchrist's dreams spawns spam

bummi

spam meta.stackexchange.com/q/254570/201151

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: vegetable capsule daily will increase your performance? by user289883 on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

11:26 AM

@bummi Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected, repeating characters in body: Multiple tree. Intresting task by HasaDev on codereview.stackexchange.com

tchrist

I think @JonEricson presents a good enough solution about character counting. Funny counting isn’t a display problem after all. I’m a lot more worried about splitting up 😿 code points to create illegal Unicode sequences and about splitting up graphemes to orphan their combining characters than I am about counting code points the way Twitter does, even though Twitter (for once!) seems to make more sense. Asian wides may be a bother, too.

I awoke to two new MSE silvers: clear evidence that 🍌 is a guaranteed rep-whoring strategy. Sex seems to sell, too:

Up vote from me for the banana in the title - it was the only reason I read your question. Then another +1 for tetranibbles. But also -1 for every fruit I'm going to have to edit out of titles now that you've started it. — slugster 1 hour ago

@bummi I keep thinking of Morbius from Forbidden Planet. Perhaps my unquiet dreams are the source of all the spam daemons of the world.

@SmokeDetector Not a very good Code Golf entry, Smokey.

Jan Dvorak

@tchrist It is not code golf, though

tchrist

@JanDvorak That was the joke.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: How To Sleeping Tight is an Aid Provided by This Product? by mariagweddle on stackoverflow.com

tchrist

Oh crap, now we know it really is me doing the spamming. I must be dreaming.

@SmokeDetector tpu

bummi

11:42 AM

fits perfect ;)

SmokeDetector

@tchrist Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Santa Claus

Lol my school is being DDOSed

Unihedron

Windows server?

tchrist

@Unihedron Never a good idea.

A school probably doesn’t have the resources to cope with a DDOS.

Unihedron

black holes, null routing... duh

tchrist

11:44 AM

You need multiple data centers and fail overs and DNS tricks to dodge it. And savvy technical staff.

@Unihedron It depends on the type of attack, I think.

In any event, a lot of schools really do not know have people running their computer who have experience in this sort of trouble.

Unihedron

That's true - tech savvy technicians are hard to find :) irony inbound

tchrist

Well, it’s true.

Think of your nearest primary school, for example.

Or elementary school. Whatever you call it.

Unihedron

Schools don't need them either - it's not everyday you'd get ddos'ed

tchrist

And then there’s that. One wonders what could have provoked it.

Perhaps the urge to not go to school that day. :)

Santa Claus

I think they are DDOSing the proxy server from the inside...

SmokeDetector

11:55 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: How to get a String from a Jframe (textfield) and put on another jFrame (txtArea)? - Netbeans - Well Explained by Nike on stackoverflow.com

Unihedron

@SantaClaus agent.biz v2??

tchrist

@SmokeDetector naa but why is Nike a forbidden keyword in a username? Because people aren’t thinking of the Goddess of Vengeance?

Wait, victory not vengeance.

Unihedron

@tchrist /closed as primarily opinion based

tchrist

I’m afraid I have Athena, Charlie Stross’s omniscient spam-avenger, on my mind this morning.

@Unihedron k

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Site for computer repair questions by Kendra Lewis on meta.stackexchange.com

Unihedron

12:03 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@Unihedron Blacklisted user.

Unihedron

How not to be a spammer — Unihedron 10 secs ago

tchrist

There’s a Goddess of Indignation? Really? That’s like the Patron Saint of Internet Flamers.

Unihedron

What do you mean?

tchrist

> Nemesis, Greek Goddess of vengeance, justice, Indignation and Retribution

SmokeDetector

12:11 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: How can I delete stickers on viber? by Sigrit on android.stackexchange.com

ProgramFOX

Somebody who can rollback the vandalism here? linguistics.stackexchange.com/questions/12126/…

user259867

@SmokeDetector delete, edited

ProgramFOX

the OP seems to be vandalizing all of his posts on Linguistics and ELL

Unihedron

@ProgramFOX in that case, flag - standard mod protocol is to recover and suspend to "cool down", which should be done in this case.

ProgramFOX

done

Unihedron

12:15 PM

:)

Jan Dvorak

!!comp how many calories are in a cubic mile of cheese

SmokeDetector

12:36 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected, repeating characters in body: Multiple tree. Interesting task by HasaDev on codereview.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Change one word into another by picking words that differ by one character by HasaDev on codereview.stackexchange.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector ignore

SmokeDetector

@bummi Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

bjb568

1.2×10^16 Cal (dietary Calories)

bummi

@JanDvorak noooooo ....

Jan Dvorak

sorry :/

bjb568

12:49 PM

8:57 pm EST | Tuesday, March 8, 2016 (0.8618 years from now)

sorry :/

sorry :/

sorry :/

TRAIN WRECK ha bet you didn't see that coming

Qantas 94 Heavy

sorry :/

ProgramFOX

12:52 PM

sorry :/

DroidDev

sorry:/

bummi

sorry :/

bjb568

sorry :/

5

cky

!comp ((call/cc call/cc) (call/cc call/cc))

@DroidDev You missed a space ;-)

Rahul Nikate

Little fun time
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29941458/can-you-able-to-show-the-functionality-of-email-account-in-asp-net#29941458

Have a look

SilentKiller

1:12 PM

cya!

bummi

cya!

yushi

@bjb568 hi Hero ;)

Shadow Wizard

1:44 PM

first time I see @bjb568 called a Hero :D

5

SmokeDetector

2:09 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Resolution on 3-SAT instance yields in polynomial many resolvents by Kavosh Havaledarnejad on math.stackexchange.com

Braiam

@SmokeDetector not sure if it's spam or just my lack of knowledge on math...

Qantas 94 Heavy

@Braiam: I think it's just a signature.

Lynn Crumbling

@Qantas94Heavy agree

ProgramFOX

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

bjb568

2:23 PM

@yushi Hiya!

SmokeDetector

2:47 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: SharePoint 2010 - Claims Based Authentication - Access Denied for AD Group members by Steven Cardinal on sharepoint.stackexchange.com

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@LynnCrumbling Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

SmokeDetector

3:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ADDING ONE HOUR TO STRING DATE by Abdelrahim Sabra on stackoverflow.com

SmokeDetector

3:28 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CROSS ORIGIN ERROR IN FIREBASE AUTHENTICATION by user3062437 on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Ratio of angles in a triangle, given lengths of triangle's sides. by Hitler on math.stackexchange.com

ProgramFOX

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Blacklisted user.

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector tp already edited; go approve the suggested edit

SmokeDetector

@LynnCrumbling Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

ASCIIThenANSI

The nerve of some people...

Lynn Crumbling

3:31 PM

@ASCIIThenANSI Hrmmm..?

ASCIIThenANSI

@LynnCrumbling On Smokey's post about Math.SE.

Lynn Crumbling

Ah, yeah.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Left 4 Dead 2 Crashes PC by jejelandia on gaming.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user.

ProgramFOX

3:40 PM

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector gone

user259867

3:52 PM

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@2mkgz Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Unihedron

"As the SSL only installed on the one without "www", and when I visit the "www" one, I get SSL error."

buy a wildcard certificate duh

and then set NS record for www to redirect on A records

SmokeDetector

4:10 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: How do I send someone else TF2 replay files? by MunaPilluun on gaming.stackexchange.com

ASCIIThenANSI

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@ASCIIThenANSI Blacklisted user.

ASCIIThenANSI

Awfully quiet in here...

Lynn Crumbling

drops pin

ASCIIThenANSI

@LynnCrumbling You monster.

You hurt that pin.

Unihedron

4:20 PM

@ASCIIThenANSI ⚂

ASCIIThenANSI

@Unihedron ?

Unihedron

have a dice

ASCIIThenANSI

@Unihedron Oh, thank you!

Lynn Crumbling

s/dice/die :)

ASCIIThenANSI

rolls die ⚄

SmokeDetector

4:38 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: segmentation fault when using su or sudo by Glendon Gross on askubuntu.com

ASCIIThenANSI

^ Already flagged as 'not an answer'

ASCIIThenANSI

4:52 PM

You know what we need? An "I can't answer this" button.

Too often I find questions that are well formed, and look like I could gain some rep from helping out, and then I find that I know nothing of the thing they want help with.

cky

@AlexisKing Just reading through the scrollback now. Ian Price's opinions re R6RS/R7RS is quite well-known.

I wrote a couple more messages in PM (on IRC) on the subject, since I don't wish for them to become part of the public record. ;-)

Unihedron

5:07 PM

!find happiest place on eaerth

bjb568

And The Happiest Place On Earth Is... - CBS News

Unihedron

eh

rene

The Tavern?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Url in title: How can I make example.com and www go to example.com/wiki/projects? by unmircea on apple.stackexchange.com

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

5:14 PM

@LynnCrumbling Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Lynn Crumbling

@Undo @ProgramFOX Can we teach smokey to ignore url matches that contain example.com ?

ProgramFOX

@LynnCrumbling Let's see whether I can tweak the regex to do that.

Lynn Crumbling

That's two today.

ProgramFOX

!!/rev?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX 60f847d (ProgramFOX: Exclude example.com from URL regex)

ProgramFOX

5:23 PM

@LynnCrumbling Done. ^

Lynn Crumbling

@ProgramFOX nice!

@ProgramFOX So that'll exclude http://www.example.com http://example.com https://www.example.com and https://example.com .. right?

ProgramFOX

yup

Lynn Crumbling

very good.

time for lunch.

rene

time for dinner.

ASCIIThenANSI

time for breakfast?

cky

5:33 PM

Time for fourthmeal. :-P tacobell.com/food/menu/fourth-meal

Braiam

remember the time~

ASCIIThenANSI

Time for convertTimeToMeal((people.ASCIIThenANSI.getLocalTime()) or people.ASCIIThenANSI.findFood().

So what's new with the rest of the internet?

Lynn Crumbling

@cky That task already executed 14 hours ago.

cky

@LynnCrumbling It's midnight somewhere in the world. ;-)

ASCIIThenANSI

@LynnCrumbling sudo fourthmeal?

Lynn Crumbling

5:47 PM

hah

at now +10 hours fourthmeal -m RedoLastOrder

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: sql injection php mysqli by user3574864 on stackoverflow.com

Jan Dvorak

those buzzword cloud titles...

Lynn Crumbling

@JanDvorak cv'd typo.

Jan Dvorak

answered by a high-rep, of course

ASCIIThenANSI

6:17 PM

awkward!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Unir dados para Mala direta | Tabela pai e filho by Luiz Vichiatto on pt.stackoverflow.com

ASCIIThenANSI

^ I'm of no use here.

SmokeDetector

6:34 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body: How should I safely change cygwin's installation directory on win 7? by Zyn on stackoverflow.com

user259867

6:55 PM

@JanDvorak Hm... I wonder if Gamification could disrupt cloud platforms for big data...

Bart

grabs smiting stick

yellowantphil

is there a list of sites that made it to beta and then got shut down?

user259867

@yellowantphil Not that I know of. You can search Google for "didn't have enough activity during the beta, and has been closed" site:area51.stackexchange.com

Jon Ericson

@yellowantphil There is a partial list. Note that a few of those have been rebooted in one form or another.

yellowantphil

huh, gamification has died before

Jon Ericson

7:05 PM

@yellowantphil In private beta.

user259867

@yellowantphil AsheeshR has a list obtained by scraping Area 51.

yellowantphil

why kill something that's still in private beta?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: EXTRACT LINES FROM TEXT BATCH FILE by john on stackoverflow.com

yellowantphil

@2mkgz what a graveyard

Jon Ericson

@yellowantphil Because it's not working and won't be working anytime soon.

user259867

7:07 PM

@yellowantphil Private beta is the time to kill it. Killing things in public is... more disturbing.

Alexis King

@JonEricson Very recently, I signed up for a site in private beta even though I didn't participate on Area 51 for it, but I can't seem to do that anymore. Was that changed?

user259867

@AlexisKing You can do it if you go through Area 51.

Jon Ericson

@AlexisKing Go to the Area 51 proposal page first.

Alexis King

Aha, thanks.

That's... a weird system. :p

user259867

AsheeshR's list is out of date, unfortunately.

user259867

7:11 PM

Hey look, after Lifehacks and Health, the next hot shot will (likely) be Law.

user259867

SE is getting curiosier and curiosier.

yellowantphil

next we need LawHacks, where we find loopholes to do everything

2

Jan Dvorak

Is the muscle spam thingie on-topic on health.se?

Jon Ericson

@AlexisKing It's a compromise. Originally you couldn't get to the site at all unless you had committed. Then we got complaints that we were closing sites that didn't have any activity in the private beta because we were too restrictive. So this allows people to enter the site without committing while still funneling them through Area 51 (for maximal confusion, no doubt ;).

Alexis King

@JonEricson Sounds like security through obscurity if I've ever heard of it. ;P

Jon Ericson

7:17 PM

@AlexisKing Kinda. Security is not a big concern. The real problem is that we ask for people to commit, but there's nothing forcing them to actually participate since Area 51 rep is particularly useless.

Alexis King

@JonEricson What would be so bad about letting people just sign up without having to go through Area 51? Or just referring people directly to the Area 51 proposal from the private beta login page?

Jon Ericson

@2mkgz I bet he accepts pull requests. ;-)

bjb568

@AlexisKing Yeah, this. What's the point of private beta?

Alexis King

@bjb568 I understand the idea of private beta in general. Sites in private beta shouldn't show up in the Hot Network Questions list or other lists that include all the sites on the network.

bjb568

Yeah, fine, but it doesn't need to be restirctive.

Alexis King

7:21 PM

I just don't understand what the idea is behind having an arbitrary system for letting people sign up that requires them to have intimate knowledge about how the private beta system works.

Jon Ericson

@AlexisKing The idea is that if you commit to a proposal, you get special access to the "private" beta. We broke that contract a bit to short circuit the "our site failed because you are mean and didn't let the dozens of experts who we swear would have joined if only you'd let them" complaints.

bjb568

I don't think the commitment thing really works, mostly because for a long time I had no idea what it did.

Alexis King

@JonEricson I guess that's reasonable from a practicality standpoint, but it's also a little weird from an ideological standpoint. :p

yellowantphil

could let the insiders send invitations

Jon Ericson

@yellowantphil They can.

Infinite Recursion

7:24 PM

^^

yellowantphil

and they're still disappointed that experts don't show up?

Jon Ericson

Yep. It's not entirely rational. The problem normally is that either experts don't exist or they don't care to spend time answering questions on the internet.

yellowantphil

but they get internet points :o

Alexis King

Are you implying that there are things some people won't do for internet points?!

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Jon Ericson

@AlexisKing Have a star. You earned it. ;-)

rene

7:33 PM

Is there a direct route to a badge if I have an id from the badge table in SEDE?

Infinite Recursion

The star wall doesn't contain borked unicode today. :D