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Journeyman Geek

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Journeyman Geek

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M.A.R.

3:48 AM

@Mithical you say that but your heart's not in it

CPlus

6:06 AM

nuke-pls Spammer meta.stackexchange.com/users/1504483

Petəíŕd The Spring Wizard

@ShadowWizardLoveZelda rofl

Out of context is sounds funny.

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;-)

Shadow Wizard Love Zelda

9:56 AM

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rene

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Journeyman Geek

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Elements In Space

1:03 PM

@JourneymanGeek I can’t see it.

Journeyman Geek

good :S

Petəíŕd The Spring Wizard

lol

SPArcheon

1:49 PM

Just wondering.

Probably any diamond mod - even no-longer ones - can answer.

Does the site have any gimmick in place to automatically escalate flags raised against volunteer-level mods?

generic question, nothing happened.

I was just wondering if a potential new users that wanted to flag a moderator reply and doesn't know about "contact us" (or an older user that knows that that address feeds directly in the shredder.exe process ^_^') would just end up flagging the post for the culprit to see and dismiss

Tinkeringbell

Yes, any mod can see all flags, so also ones on their own posts and such. Those flags are supposed to be handled by anyone other than the mod they're about though, and as far as I know, that's also what happens.

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell I was hoping they would be escalated to an employee, but I guess that was to be expected.

Elements In Space

I think a regular flag would be the wrong way to go for that type of scenario. The best way would be to use Contact Support, and write a detailed (but not long or ranty) message with links etc. .

Tinkeringbell

Depends on "what went wrong".

SPArcheon

@ElementsInSpace I know, I was just wondering about the experience for a "new" user that doesn't even know the contact us link exists.

Shadow Wizard Love Zelda

2:00 PM

Having it automatic will just flood the staff, many times it can be solved with the other mods. Depends on each case, of course.

Petəíŕd The Spring Wizard

@ShadowWizardLoveZelda exactly!

SPArcheon

Hopefully flags against mods aren't frequent enough to cause a flood. On the opposite hands, one could argue that on smaller sites with 2-3 mods those are mostly friends (see: the "regulars" as some ex employee would call them) with their shared idea about "room culture". Therefore getting any of the remaining two to handle a flag against the first would be no use either.
The correct way would indeed to use the "contact us" button and hope something is actually done (you will never know since any action taken won't be shared), but again, most don't know about the contact button either

Shadow Wizard Love Zelda

@SPArcheon agree about small sites, yeah. But when there are more than three, think better flag and escalate only if there's no response, or the response doesn't make enough sense.

SPArcheon

@ShadowWizardLoveZelda yea, but those are far past the "my circle of friend site, visitors not welcome" phase, so less likely to get bad moderation in the first place

Journeyman Geek

2:17 PM

@SPArcheon no

Bit there's an unwritten convention to various levels to not handle our own flags

@SPArcheon ideally EVERYONE is friends :D

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@SPArcheon That would put the moderators in an unfair situation. They also deserve to be moderated by the community, as everybody else.

SPArcheon

@AndreasmovedtoCodidact hopefully not by themselves.

Andreas moved to Codidact

@SPArcheon Can moderators not just escalate a flag with the reason "I am incapable of handling this request due to personal connections", etc?

Journeyman Geek

@AndreasmovedtoCodidact if we can't act in a fair, unbiased way, it would make sense to

@AndreasmovedtoCodidact via the contact link :D

ya

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@JourneymanGeek Is it that complicated for you to escalate flags?

Journeyman Geek

2:25 PM

@AndreasmovedtoCodidact yup

SPArcheon

@AndreasmovedtoCodidact that assume good will. I was strictly thinking about a "worst case" scenario.

What will Average Joe new/not-in-the-loop user do if someone on a new site attacks them and they don't know about the "contact us" option

Andreas moved to Codidact

@SPArcheon Not sure if the site could provide visibility enough to users of an option that would let them appeal declined flags against moderators with a simple button click. Of course, there are situations where the system cannot catch that the flag is about a moderator.

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