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11:00 AM
Where did you get the link if you can't see it either?
 
Browser history.
Gotta admit that sifting through my browser history gives me a strong sense of guilt for various reasons.
 
Can't really argue with that reasoning
did it require deletion because of too many complaining answers or something?
 
long idle time while being closed
 
I've bountied this
 
11:09 AM
do bounties make SE more likely to respond?
 
No
But it gave me a new badge ;)
 
11:28 AM
meh badges
 
^^ Random.
 
12:07 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How do I disable Aero Shake in Windows 7? by fuck you on superuser.com
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
@Ixrec Blacklisted user.
 
SmokeDetector's on a roll today
 
Them again? They can themself themself.
 
12:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected, offensive title detected: Has 'Shit' Become De-Curse-ified? by user3306356 on english.stackexchange.com
 
@SmokeDetector ignore
 
@ProgramFOX Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
 
Well, apparently not :-D
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: How do I fix my Minecraft log-in? by eraldo22 on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
12:44 PM
I’m getting pretty tired of usernames with “fuck” in their screen names: SO, SU. How do we get those addressed, assuming this is desirable?
Usually there is no post to flag.
 
@JanDvorak your wish is granted...
 
thanks
 
And I hate drawing attention to them, as that is just what they want.
 
there are some .. interesting...profiles among those google results
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in body: Need a centred headline in Beamer by ouadad on tex.stackexchange.com
 
12:57 PM
@SmokeDetector ignore
 
@rene Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.
 
@SmokeDetector delete
 
@rene Yes, I know. And few are flaggable.
But I do not think them fit for civil discourse, let alone search results.
 
I assumed there is an MSE post about that so I searched for it...
 
I know. I thought there was one, too.
Probably it is not searchable for in the obvious way.
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Q: Offensive Username

staticxI'm not a prude - but f***vimmeanpeople seems like quite a rude and unacceptable username. Since we can't flag users - just questions - is it possible to make this username something a little more innocuous? Edit: Ah, it seems he didn't learn the first time. Came back with f***meanpeopleingenera...

 
1:09 PM
In user profiles the bar is lower ...
 
But not in usernames, right?
 
In usernames it is not OK in my opinion
 
We should probably ban it in usernames.
Yes, I know the attendant issues.
 
I think in the case of usernames without a post it's OK just to flag one of your own posts as other and include a link to the account / username and state your concern.
 
That’s an interesting approach.
 
1:14 PM
That's a recommended approach
 
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Q: How to flag users with f-bombs in their usernames and no posts?

tchrist Possible Duplicate: How should I flag a user account if it has no posts to flag? Lately I’ve been finding users with offensive usernames but no way to flag this because they have no posts, like this one. Should we flag those, and if so, how? Some like this one do at least include po...

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A: How should I flag a user account if it has no posts to flag?

lunboksIf you're a 10k user, or if you still have the post open somewhere (say you opened the question before the post was destroyed), you can still flag it for moderator attention, even if it's deleted. Otherwise, you can flag a semi-related post (the question that had the now-deleted answer), or a co...

@PeterJ That appears to be the recommendation.
 
@tchrist, it made me wonder if there was a place in the world where it was part of a location name, like some people use a name like "Bob from Arizona". Well there's a little place in Austria...
 
Cunt, Iran
1
 
There's also that trope namer in UK
 
You know, the picture condemns.
 
@rene, that looks like inside profiles though, which I gather is more relaxed because they don't appear on the front page etc.
 
Some are.
 
It also picks displaynames
 
Ahh yes see a few in there now
 
> OpenID 2.0 for Google accounts is going away.
Developers should migrate to OpenID Connect by April 20, 2015.
HELP!
That’s in a few hours.
 
1:29 PM
Sure they've put up the notice sooner?
 
No, what do I do?
This is SE doing this.
Is SE using the wrong Google API?
 
@tchrist Is there a meta post on it?
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DATASTAX ERRIR START by user2602577 on stackoverflow.com
 
@SmokeDetector ERRIR!
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Slow queries but CPU is not over 10-12% by David Jung on dba.stackexchange.com
 
1:33 PM
@SmokeDetector vandalism, needs rollback
 
@SecondRikudo Possibly, but it doesn’t spring quickly to eye.
 
@SmokeDetector unclear
 
^^ answered by a moderator nominee...
 
1:33 PM
> Apparently, this user prefers to keep an air of mystery about them.
 
I cannot imagine what I am supposed to do if on SE sites when I depress the Google link for authenticating, it bounces me.
 
@tchrist Start one
 
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Q: "OpenID 2.0 for Google Accounts is going away"; will this affect Stack Exchange?

badpApparently, for some reason, Google is retiring its OpenID 2.0 platform. I got this notice while logging in with Disqus, but not with Stack Exchange. So... is Stack Exchange going to be affected by this? Do I need, or want, to add extra login methods to my Stack Exchange account to ensure I can ...

 
Best case: META REP, worst case, SOME META REP + question closed as duplicate.
Or that ^
 
@ProgramFOX So the problem is that SE and SEDE and AREA 51 are about to mysteriously vaporize in a few hours?
At least, with respect to Google authentication
 
1:36 PM
I have no idea, the Meta post is all I know about it.
 
Thanks.
Well, no more SEDE for me then.
Nor the others, sigh.
 
@tchrist You can add a new login for yourself you know
Either with facebook/twitter or with a good 'ol email/pass pair.
 
ew/semi-ew/ew
 
@SecondRikudo I don’t do that former, and I haven’t ever gotten the latter to work. Oddly.
I mean, like who does twitter or facebook honestly?
Blech.
 
@tchrist Odd indeed.
 
1:42 PM
I’ll try again. I never get password mail from SE.
But I can get regular mail from SE.
 
a... password mail?
 
If you log in to SEDE and go to your profile then there's a "change openid" link, can be useful here
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: How do I update my TeX distribution? by vance on tex.stackexchange.com
 
@JanDvorak SE never likes my password. So I select the mail me a lost-password link. Never gets here.
But other mail from SE does.
 
> Someone requested an account recovery on Stack Exchange. If you did not request this, just ignore this email. We'll keep your account safe.

> To reset your password, just follow this link.

> Reset Your Password
 
1:47 PM
Yep. Lost to the æther. I probably have some idiot sendmail rule eating it.
 
@ShadowWizard Even better, I delegated to Nick! (But yes, I'm aware there's an issue) — Tim Stone 54 secs ago
So it's Nick fault.
No more SEDE for us! @_@
 
how about api.se?
 
@TimStone Is SEDE ready to handle the end-of-life of google OpenID? I can't find commits in the github repo and SEDE is on 2015.3.18...
 
It is not. Nick told me he could reuse some of the code from the login on the Q&A sites but he hasn't had a chance, so there'll be an issue for a little bit.
 
[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in answer: Convert coordinates to address with geocoder by SaPires on stackoverflow.com
 
1:49 PM
@TimStone So what is the third place this affects besides SEDE and Area 51?
 
I think the main Stack Exchange site login and/or chat had some issue too, I have no idea if they've been addressed.
 
So meta.stackexchange.com and chat.meta.stackexchange.com then?
 
Let me find the instruction how to add an SE login to my account
 
Be seein’ yas. :)
 
@tchrist No, just stackexchange.com, and you don't have to log in there if you've logged in on any of the sites.
@rene This won't work on SEDE, heh >_>;
 
1:52 PM
We are doomed ;)
 
We never do anything useful with SEDE anyway. :)
 
Anyway, I'll see where things are at and go from there.
 
I guess committing some quick hacks now in the authentication flow would not be the way forward
 
My ultimate goal was to encourage (but not require) people to auth with the API anyway, since it lets us do more powerful things.
And then there needs to be an overhaul of how queries are organized.
 
Like the ability for removing your queries?
 
2:02 PM
That and making useful queries easier to find.
 
\o/
 
It'd be nice to specify in some way what sites a query is useful for too, since right now they're all shown for all sites (before they were all site-specific, which seemed worse)
But obviously queries which look at certain tags or for certain phrases may only be applicable to a select number of sites, so showing them for other sites is just noise.
 
Oh, we can give queries a thumbs-up like on facebook...
 
I have an implementation of commenting somewhere too, but that requires a level of moderation, so I don't know how soon that would be added.
 
@PatrickHofman s/D/C
closed
 
@Unihedro Indeed. Thanks.
 
@TimStone you can always refer to MSE if users want to discus a query and maybe that should be made explicit in the helppages.
 
Yeah, it'd be nice to have it on-site though. I guess if I add in the API authing I could enable basic moderation features a la spam/offensive flags based on some other-site rep threshold.
One thing at a time though :P
 
Yeah.. first enable comments, then 6 to 8 weeks later enable comment flags
 
2:12 PM
don't push it Jan
 
2:26 PM
Flag from SEDE? No thanks.
@JeremyBanks Oooh cool. I remember downloading that once and then uninstalling it since it had nothing to do with what I was doing.
#stackoverflow developers really have nothing but unadulterated disdain for the old Area51 codebase. http://t.co/oAGhBeP0DC
 
@hichris123 Looks like we're not getting new profile pages.
:(
 
@Unihedro told you so ;)
hey @ShadowWizard seeing the tweet from Nick I think I can claim we disagree...
 
!tchrist
 
2:41 PM
!!mustache TimStone
 
@SecondRikudo Caprica's prefix in this room has been changed to ||
 
@ProgramFOX I've tried that.
Appears to be dead.
 
oh, ok
 
2:43 PM
not enough nose to grow a mustache
 
I beg the differ.
 
s/the/to/
 
nice mustache
 
!mustache SecondRikudo
 
2:45 PM
 
Aww yiss. Anime mustache.
 
:O
AWESOME
 
I like the mod hat. :P
 
@Doorknob Why thank you :)
 
I'm stunned by awesomeness
 
2:47 PM
Command suggestion: !modhat. :p
 
I want modhat!
 
@ProgramFOX I did that one with Gimp, but feel free to implement
See how mustachify is built, and I can give you a HQ image of the hat alone.
 
inb4 all users gets modhat in avatar
 
Welp, I believe I've got to sharpen my Ruby skills to understand the Mustachify code :p
 
@ProgramFOX Eh, image manipulation and processing libraries exist for most languages out there
 
2:55 PM
@SmokeDetector fp nike
 
@JanDvorak Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
in The SO Tavern (Free Snacks) on Stack Overflow Chat, 6 mins ago, by Philipp Wendler
This user has suggested an enormous amount of trivial tag wiki edits in the last days and has gained > 200 rep by this: http://stackoverflow.com/users/3563993/shilovk?tab=activity&sort=suggestions&pag‌​e=1
^ should anything be done in the above case?
 
Are they valid and useful and not overlooking some glaring issues?
 
Nope. Just adding "related tag: [ruby]".
That's a clear farming attempt.
 
Edit rep is capped at 1k. What harm can be done here?
KK... that rep graph is ridiculous
 
3:00 PM
@JanDvorak A wrong signal that this method is acceptable?
Also, some edits like these stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7747079 are actively harmful.
 
what does it tell us about the reviewers? Do some bans need to be dealt? Might well be worth a flag.
 
Ban all the reviewers who approve anything >8 times in a row.
Arbitrary number chosen but that's the gist of locating bad reviewers.
 
*Autoflag
or just crank up the audit rate
 
@JanDvorak No more audits please =(
 
Moar audits!
Show 100% audits and forget the original tickets.
 
3:05 PM
Approved edit with only copied content, which is even irrelevant: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7727297
 
Well maybe on SO, they have enough data that maybe the robots actually make accurate selections
 
Contender for the most trivial accepted edit? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7728330
 
only SO has audits, and they aren't that accurate
 
@PhilippWendler Only one reviewer voted to reject?!
 
@JanDvorak I'm pretty sure Programmers has them too
 
3:07 PM
Lift the requirement of steward badge to 10k review items to further decrease the motivation to farm for badges
 
[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: C MAJOR CHORD DIFFERENT STYLE COMPLIANCE WITH THEORY by ankara on music.stackexchange.com
 
Hey, I need the Research Assistant badge. Should I try like the previous editor and spam minor tag wiki edits?
 
personally I just don't care about any badges that don't involve humans voting on your contributions
 
@PhilippWendler people with 1/4th the rep review in triage..
 
@Ixrec That doesn't stop others from caring. And as long as they care about that badge, we have racing cars in the public streets, and more accidents.
 
3:11 PM
@Unihedro Yep. Personally I'm not sure why we have badges for that sort of thing at all.
 
@Ixrec I agree. Badges are pointless. They should give out rep for helping to clean up the site instead.
 
though that requires people to vote on your clean up efforts somehow
 
Skip that part. Just vote each other caretakers for the best caretaker of the minute and give them arbitrary amounts of rep.
 
yep, no way to abuse that
 
We can run the STV model, just like elections.
 
3:14 PM
@ProgramFOX I've spend 20 rejections and left a comment for that user
 
Another one got accepted: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7746184 Why should a tag for a Ruby gem be related to a PHP extension?
 
@PhilippWendler There's a 30k privilege idea: Undo all effects of a "bad" review with a custom message explaining to the approvers why the review was bad
 
@rene nah, you just want icecream.... :D
 
3:16 PM
I wrote a MSO answer for a similar occasion in the past: 100 edits in one evening. Is it wrong?Unihedro 9 secs ago
 
@ShadowWizard Come on! I'm not that desperate for ice cream ;)
 
@rene oh really? :P
 
@Ixrec Definitely useful for cases like this
 
probably too late to add it to the actual suggestion thread
 
@ShadowWizard really... not?
 
3:37 PM
@bluefeet if you are around can you look into my flag or visit this post
 
@JanDvorak MathO, AU, SU has audits
 
I always assumed all SE sites had audits
 
@Ixrec only when necesary
 
@Braiam How is that determined?
 
user259867
3:45 PM
@Braiam Math, but not MathO.
 
@Braiam can you help in rejecting edits here
 
@rene ARGGGGGGGGGGG! rep-whoring need intesifies
/me no 5k
:(
 
@Braiam intensity intensifies
Good night!
 
@Braiam you are 2K on SO you should be able to review suggested edits?
 
user259867
3:49 PM
@rene Not to wikis. Those require 5K.
 
@rene tag wiki and excerpt = 5k
 
iirc approving tag wiki edits are 5k
 
user259867
FGITW problem hits the Tavern.
 
you people are prejudiced to small users that improve information on the site — shilovk 3 mins ago
WTF
 
rofl
 
3:50 PM
@pizza forgotten...
 
I apologize in advance for the serial downvoting I'm going to do, for the world will be in injustice if I DON'T do this!
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Windows.........................................
pukes blood; dies
 
user259867
@Braiam A part of problem there is that reviewers did not see the comment left by Qantas. I wish the review interface displayed those in the sidebar. On one hand, there's a danger of introducing bias... on another, the minority of reviewers who do some research should be able to share it with other reviewers.
 
user259867
@SmokeDetector fp
 
@pizza Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.
 
is @uni perhaps trying to do this:
 
3:56 PM
:)
 
Sometimes I wish I could vote on edits. :(
Outside reviews.
 
Is there a voting system better than STV?
 
someone is fixing the bootstrap/twitter-bootstrap mess... I say let bootstrap burn!
 
@Unihedro Better at what?
 
Let me know if I'm getting to direct @Braiam
@tchrist dictatorship
 
4:10 PM
@rene There aren’t many elected absolute monarchs. I know of only one.
 
@rene I edited it, to make it more obvious what I'm refering to
 
There are a number of complications and issues surrounding the application and use of the single transferable vote that form the basis of discussions between its advocates and detractors. == Complexity == A frequent concern with STV among electorates considering its adoption is its relative complexity compared with plurality voting methods. For example, when the Canadian province of British Columbia held a referendum on adopting the BC-STV single transferable vote in 2005, according to polls most of the "no" voters gave their reason as "wasn't knowledgeable" when they were asked why, specifically...
 
If I have a question on any SE site that I would like an answer to sooner, can I ask people in chat to look at it?
 
@shilovk I actually rejected some of them for being non-sensical. I suggest that you slow down and actually read the question. Remember, tags are not applied just because a keywords is mentioned, they have to be relevant to the problem presented. — Braiam 6 secs ago
 
@ASCIIThenANSI That's not ethical. You're jumping the line.
 
4:11 PM
@ASCIIThenANSI You can, but people will probably complain that there is no such thing as ANSI.
 
You'll probably also get more downvotes because it can appear as blatant promotion.
 
@Unihedro OK. Thanks for the help.
 
sarcasm++
irony++
 
@tchrist What does irony mean?
 
@Unihedro sarcasm++ but for the lulz of the universe
 
4:13 PM
??
 
> One potential strategy in STV involves casting a first preference vote for a candidate that has no chance of winning. This vote will then be transferred at full value and carry more weight in determining the winners at the later stages of the count.
So rank highest those you think have the least chance of winning.
 
@tchrist That can be fixed by limited the depth.
For example, Stack Exchange Elections STV limits you to set three choices only.
 
btw, be careful with the guy editing [bootstrap] -> [twitter-bootstrap] some of them are about "bootstraping with something"
 
@Unihedro Something that goes with cookie and cleany?
 
||urban irony
Dammit, Cap is dead and I gotta look it up myself.
 
4:16 PM
I wonder whether the open vote counts from the primary provide too much information.
@Unihedro I am not urban.
> "God is an iron," I said. "Did you know that?"

I turned to look at her and she was staring. She laughed experimentally, stopped when I failed to join in. "And I'm a pair of pants with a hole scorched through the ass?"

"If a person who indulges in gluttony is a glutton, and a person who commits a felony is a felon, then God is an iron. Or else He's the dumbest designer that ever lived."

—Spider Robinson in "God Is An Iron", 1977.
 
||urban tmi
 
How the heck can one laught "experimentally"
 
To see whether it will be well-received.
"She laughed, just a bit uncertainly."
Like hey is that supposed to be funny?
 
meh, I have enough with Chinesse literature that don't know whenever to laught or cry, or nodding secretly...
 
If you break out in an explosive cackle when no humor is intended, it might have negative social ramifications.
So you experiment with laughter.
 
4:23 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating words in answer: What are the tiers of the ores in Terraria? by user108743 on gaming.stackexchange.com
 
Seriously, I wonder why votes are revealed in the primary.
Cui bono?
 
@tchrist popularity measurement
also more fun that way :)
You know, staring at Jason's election monitor like it's the stockmarket counter
 
user259867
 
"Qin Yu is secretly frightened" <-- there's no one besides him, so why is he trying to keep it secret?!
 
@pizza Community Building?
 
user259867
4:25 PM
^^^ The first time I see this on the site list. Well done, Beer
 
@Unihedro I wish it were scaled to 360 degrees and color-coded by hue. :)
 
@Doorknob no, CB has 0.4
 
Vraiment.
 
@SmokeDetector tpu
 
4:27 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: Is there a Chrome extension that will take a screenshot of the whole page? by user5263 on softwarerecs.stackexchange.com
@hichris123 Blacklisted user.
 
should we flag that as spam?
 
@JanDvorak I would lean towards yes because it sounds like a canned marketing pitch, without any evidence it'll help that particular user or effort to explain how it would.
but it might be best to avoid smoke detection on softwarerecs because so many of the legitimate posts are effectively software advertisements
 
user259867
@Ixrec Indeed, all answers to that question look about the same to me
 
@Undo?
 
user259867
Maybe custom flag. We're talking about an answer from July 2014, so it's hardly urgent.
 
4:33 PM
still can be handled by coordinated flagging
 
smells to spam for be, he just regurgitates someone solution to make it look valid and add his own website as tag line
> For more chrome extensions to snapshot full webpage, discover them here.
^ obvious spammy line
 
agreed, though it is remarkably close to being on-topic
!xkcd 810
 
@hichris123 @rene cv;plz [verizon-wireless]... just 30 questions
 
I'm also in a sort of comment war with that our mass-editor. Can someone check if I'm using the right arguments?
 
not even clicking the notification icon
 
@rene This is the unhoneyed badger, right?
 
4:51 PM
Translation please:
@rene a few minutes ago, I was one my question downvote stackoverflow.com/questions/26585038/…, it is not professional! as evil to no good does not lead — shilovk 29 mins ago
 
@tchrist yes
 
Then I don’t think you’re going to be able to have a rational discussion with that one.
 
@tchrist NC
 
@tchrist I trigger on not professional...
 
4:54 PM
Afternoon!
 
Thanks @PhilippWendler. :)
 
Afternoon!
 
@rene And well you should.
This has probably reached a stage where only moderator intervention will do any good.
 
@tchrist At least he has not submitted any more edits since then.
 

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